₦airaland Forum

bibiking7:
Now, you have agreed that NNPC is corrupt, right? Cool. What has the petroleum minister done to bring the corrupt officials under her to book. Let's say that she has not done anything simply because she is a part of it. What has her boss (the president) done about it.
Crude oil theft is been orchestrated and carried out by those authorities that are supposed to be safe guarding the crude. So its like asking me to report a thief to his boss for doing his job.
Our governors are also corrupt but you can't remove GEJ from the mix as regards our reserve. Plus, why are we deeper in debt after a period of oil boom. Where is the money. Some states have even come out to deny receiving federal allocations and the federal government has not refuted their claims, Ambode used to be in charge of lagos accounts and he claimed that the FG was owing lagos more than 50 billion.
Plus, the contractor did not specify that his contracts were not inflated. During obasanjo's tenure, I heard that he actually gave out the same contract twice, only for it to be brought back the 3rd time and that was when he recognised that he had signed those same docs before.
If you want to claim that GEJ is not corrupt because he has not been found guilty, I believe that the same should be said about Bola Ahmed.

agabaI23:
Let me tell you what goes on in the ministries. The Perm secs and directors are the corruption czars. If you come in as an appointed politician, they will only show you as much as they want you to know. If you try to strengthen things, they will lay a trap for you and push you into and then report it to a newspaper.

Now what will take care of this in case of NNPC is the unbundling which is part of the PIB.
In other ministries, the IPPIS, and other softwares manage payment has actually taken care of embezzlements. Most directors hate NO!. The IPPIS was resisted by the perm secs and so on.

You are very correct. That's why the Ore road, lokoja Abuja road was never done.

Today, things are different. you get paid directly and record of payment it there. Not a mater of removing a file and claiming it is lost.

About the oil boom, do you remember that there was a burst immediately after the boom. A barrel went for $30 while the budget benchmark was much above that. This lasted from 2008 to mid 2010 remember.
The excess crude was used to argument. That was when the governor, claiming to lack money for salaries pounced on the excess crude and whatever savings we had. The had the constitution with them so that they had to go to court to stop the sovereign wealth fund.
Share everything. They are the same people talking rubbush now in APC. The chairman of the governors forum, Amaechi was chief amongst them. He is not blaming NOI for his woes!! Note, he was owing 2 months as at last weekend. He was reported to have told the staff that their salary is in his pocket and that they should come and take it. A staff that attended a training I facilitated told me.

vandutchboy:
That was 3 months into Buhari Regime he came to power December 1983, Shagari regime had destroyed the refineries and their refining capacity through massive corruption and not maintaining the refineries.That is why Buhari awarded the contract the Shagari regime was almost as corrupt as Goodluck Jonathan regime.

vandutchboy:
You keep shooting yourself in the foot and exposing your ignorance so who do we hold responsible for the massive corruption in NNPC,DPR,PPPRA and Minstry of Petroleum if not the President. Remember the Malubu oil scam also happened under the President which was faciliated by Attorney General Mohoammed Adoke which out of $1.3 billion of the deal $533 million went to bribes to goverment officials in Goodluck Jonathan cabinet
http://petroglobalnews.com/2014/10/prosecutors-eni-paid-533-million-bribe-for-nigeria-oilfield/
Which didnt PDP pass PIB when they had majority in both houses when it was introduced in 2012 you keep running away from this question

agabaI23:
The naira was exchanging 76k to $1, why did he not repair the refinery?
Blame it on Buhari.

What do you have to say about paying off the debt? No comment?

I do not lie sir, I talk with facts.


Remember I told you how he forced many businesses to close down
1. Borders were closed, local industries were starved of raw materials, foreign investors flew away, local industried died for lack of materials or downsided...check Sam Ohuabunwas article
2. He sent soldiers in the name of price control to force traders to sell below cost price. Some closed their shops and in their absence, their shops were broken into by soldiers who sold off their wares.
A good example is what happened in Owerri. A bar soap seller closed his shop and ran away. The soldier came, broke into the shop and sold the soaps at give away prices. Those who had money rushed it.

Buhari,has got no clue.
Do you know how many millionaires and entrepreneurs GMB would have created? At 76k to a dollar?

The naira depreciated under him serously. NEPA was dead, hospitals death buildings, doctors locked up for striking.
Buhari stopped lagos rail forfeiting a large sum about $78 m down payment on the excuse he does not wanna borrow again. How nice? that's why you are seeing the train for the first time in your life under GEJ. And they are all coming alive.
Enugu to PH, PH to Gombe, Kano to Lagos. The country is connected. And the standard guage from Abuja to Kaduna is there.

You know how many people have benefited form Youwin?
many Agric millionaires are coming up due to Agric revolution. God bless Adesina, God bless GEJ.
Innoson is a billionaire because of Goodluck's Auto policy.

Today, because of GEj, Nigeria is no FDI in Africa.

I can go on sir

vandutchboy:
1)Why did he close the borders, he wanted to encourage Nigerians to buy Made in Nigeria products and did not do it out of malice and tried to cut the export deficit we where spending more on imports than exports
2)Why did he order Soldiers to order the traders to sell at a specified price because they were inflating prices and exploiting consumers just look at Kerosene and Diesel under Goodluck Jonathan sold at N150 more than N100 naira official price
3)NEPA was dead and hospitals because Shagari,Akinloye and Dikko were engaged in massive corruption and neglected the sector. Also bear in mind Buhari was only in power for 20 months,he did the little he could for the 1 year and 10 months he was there.What magic did you want him to do in 1 year and 10 months in power be reasonable
4)The naira was going down because of the export deficit which Buhari tried to fix by closing the borders and not borrowing more money that is why he cancelled the metro project.
For the 20 months(1 year and 10 months) Buhari was in power he put the country on the right path fought corruption and paid all our debt.
[size=16pt]I hope I have persuaded you to support Buhari,ive destroyed you in every argument[/size]

agabaI23:
Even your mates will not believe you

1.So which made in Nigeria goods will you buy if the raw materials you will use are not there? He starved industries.

GEJ wanted to increase tarriff on toks to support auto policy and when he noticed that we have the capacity yet, he postponed the commencement. The ban on the importation of rice is delayed until we fully sufficient. We are doing great at the moment.
Gush what kind of argument are you bringing forward?

2. Inflating prices you said? If you are a trader who bought a tin of milk at 6 naira and you sell at N8, is that price inflation. Buhari made them sell at 4 naira which is below cost price.

3. He had 20 months. Do you know how many months that will be upto in civilian regime? No house to approve budget. Budget starts on the first of january. No senate to approve appointments.
No house to approve bills or sit on your bills.
Your words become laws as they exit your lips.
Sir, 20 months is equivalent to more 48 months of civilian rule. No excuse.
Besides, the naira was superior to the dollar. Whatever he wanted to buy, he would buy.

4. lol. You fix export deficit by closing the borders without adequate preparation......

We are done with this discussion. Clap for yourself

See the kind of people defending Buhari?

Where is theV0ice. Come and seee ooo

agabaI23:
Even your mates will not believe you

1.So which made in Nigeria goods will you buy if the raw materials you will use are not there? He starved industries.

GEJ wanted to increase tarriff on toks to support auto policy and when he noticed that we have the capacity yet, he postponed the commencement. The ban on the importation of rice is delayed until we fully sufficient. We are doing great at the moment.
Gush what kind of argument are you bringing forward?

2. Inflating prices you said? If you are a trader who bought a tin of milk at 6 naira and you sell at N8, is that price inflation. Buhari made them sell at 4 naira which is below cost price.

3. He had 20 months. Do you know how many months that will be upto in civilian regime? No house to approve budget. Budget starts on the first of january. No senate to approve appointments.
No house to approve bills or sit on your bills.
Your words become laws as they exit your lips.
Sir, 20 months is equivalent to more 48 months of civilian rule. No excuse.
Besides, the naira was superior to the dollar. Whatever he wanted to buy, he would buy.

4. lol. You fix export deficit by closing the borders without adequate preparation......

We are done with this discussion. Clap for yourself

See the kind of people defending Buhari?

Where is theV0ice. Come and seee ooo

Change2015:
Please hold your ignorance. We lack many byproducts for the plastics and fertiliser industry because we do not maintain our refineries. We have the leather and cotton for our clothing etc needs but we are fixated on oil and imports. We have lead, zinc, gold, coal, uranium... A plethora of natural resources, but because we lack focus importation seems easier. China did not develop this way they learnt to manufacture for their needs first, then for the export market. We cannot have leaders with a traders mentality. We even import bottled water, pencils and chalk for goodness sake. The largest number of jobs is produced by a healthy manufacturing sector, but here we are after 16 years of pdp rule and we are still talking about electricity ($16bn plus spent on...?), water, and roads. No country should be proud that it is importation dependent to the degree we are. Buhari demonstrated the better direction, and I vaguely remember the 'made in Nigeria' trade fairs that seemed to travel round the country.

#change
#GMB
#APC

vandutchboy:
Ive been trying to re-educate him since, he has been brainwashed by the 16 years of corrupt PDP rule

Change2015:
My brother I noticed, but it really gets my goat when people talk about our importation mania like it is a good thing. China is slowly destroying our production capacity, and yet Jonathan is borrowing more and more from them and letting in every damn product. We need jobs here too, in case he hasn't noticed. We can't all be employed in the buying and selling of imported goods.

#change
#GMB
#APC

vandutchboy:
China is coming to colonise Africa under the guise of developmentand and the foolish African leaders including GEJ have opened their borders due to their selfish interests.You should watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KM06hTeRSY

agabaI23:
That does not mean that my story was cooked. Your problem is that you people think hate GEJ so much that even if he turns Nigeria to Buckingham palace, you will still find fault with that.

vandutchboy:
You rant without making any iota of sense in your posts which really irritates me,I don't like people that choose not to use their brains. I like to educate and school people like you that don't have common sense.

Gh0stFreak:
just shut that sewage pipe you call a mouth and stop spamming my mentions with your senseless tirade.

agabaI23:
Caseless, I did not lie and you know I did not.

rabimlomo:
If we hated him, we wouldn't have voted for him in 2011. It is his wrong actions and inactions that makes us want him to go and give another person a chance.

You can't please a small portion of the people and now expect the majority, who are suffering to continue to like you and vote for you.

Caseless:
u did.

Change2015:
Please hold your ignorance. We lack many byproducts for the plastics and fertiliser industry because we do not maintain our refineries. We have the leather and cotton for our clothing etc needs but we are fixated on oil and imports. We have lead, zinc, gold, coal, uranium... A plethora of natural resources, but because we lack focus importation seems easier. China did not develop this way they learnt to manufacture for their needs first, then for the export market. We cannot have leaders with a traders mentality. We even import bottled water, pencils and chalk for goodness sake. The largest number of jobs is produced by a healthy manufacturing sector, but here we are after 16 years of pdp rule and we are still talking about electricity ($16bn plus spent on...?), water, and roads. No country should be proud that it is importation dependent to the degree we are. Buhari demonstrated the better direction, and I vaguely remember the 'made in Nigeria' trade fairs that seemed to travel round the country.

#change
#GMB
#APC

OLUJOSHINS:
& U expect me to believe this?




LMAO

bdidi:
It is very unfortunate that most people here making these kinds of observation don't actually understand the problem of Nigeria.

If I may ask my friend, do you frequent the market to actually know if the price of those food commodities you mentioned have gone up or down. As at December, in Imo state, a basket of Tomatoes was 2,200 as against 4000 previously. A bag of rice was 7k, 8k as against 12k, 14k previously.

The high exchange rate is not the fault of the govt, its as a result of the fall in price of crude oil which the govt is managing as best as they could.

Let me ask you a question- Is it better you kill, jail, an alleged corrupt person yet corruption would still persist or you nib the corruption from its bud and reduce corruption to its barest minimum?

How many armed robbers have been jailed, killed, has armed robbery stopped?

It is only in GEJ's government that meaningful strides have been witnessed in the power sector. In the past 49 years what has really happened in that sector?

A prophet is not always recognised in his territory.

You may succeed in voting him out but I bet you, what's coming next, am afraid you may not be able to handle it. I wonder what song you guys would be singing then.

GOD bless NIGERIA.

agabaI23:
Believing is your prerogative. You are free to use it the way you like. I have told you my experience. I did not add anything neither did cook it.

And the fact that you don't want to believe it means the govt has done well there. It is a reason you can be proud of your government but you don't want to be because you want the govt out. There is God ooo

vandutchboy:
Why doesènt he tackle the Petroleum cabal,Instead he is going after small fish. Were are the subisdy scammers and people in NNPC,DPR that have been ripping off the country.

agabaI23:
lol.

Whynotthetruth:
can you open a new thread, and state their side of the story...let us see exactly what's up with them...otherwise quit lying about things you know not about...

theoctopus:
#

Everything you stated here are lies and have been debunked. That APC repeats it over and over will not make it truth!

Every contractor in Anuja currently knows that things are tight in government there. Thats a fact

‘Nigeria Lost $7.92bn To Corruption In One Year

A total of $7.92billion in illicit capital flowed of out Nigeria in 2012, according to the latest report released by the US-based non-profit research and advisory organisation, Global Financial Integrity (GFI).

For the year 2012, only Nigeria and South Africa are the two African countries ranked in the top 20 countries for illicit financial outflows. Nigeria was ranked 17th behind South Africa, which ranks 9th with cumulative illicit financial outflows of $29.13 in 2012.

According to the report, “Illicit Financial Flows from Developing Countries: 2003-2012,” emerging economies lost a whopping $991.2billion in facilitating crime, corruption and tax evasion.

However, in the 10-year period between 2003 and 2012, Nigeria was ranked 10th with a cumulative of $157.46billion, surpassing South Africa which was ranked 12th with a cumulative $122.14billion. Also, Nigeria and South Africa are the only two African countries that were ranked for illicit financial outflows in the 10-year period between 2003 and 2012.

“The fraudulent mis-invoicing of trade transactions was revealed to be the largest component of illicit financial flows from developing countries, accounting for 77.8 percent of all illicit flows, highlighting that any effort to significantly curtail illicit financial flows must address trade mis-invoicing,” said the report.

More from: http://leadership.ng/news/395733/nigeria-lost-7-92bn-corruption-one-year

fyneguy:
Keep lying to yourself. You need to meet some other contractors who are getting paid for doing nothing!

agabaI23:
Yesterday evening I went to swim and I met a government contractor lodged in the same hotel.

He does not want GEJ back. His grouse with GEJ is that since he came, he is no longer making money the way he was making from contracts. He confirmed that though his money now comes straight into his account without interference, that he preferred the pre-Jonathan era when things were not as tight. That now, they check the validity of any contract before money is paid out and the guy dey fall hand for business.

Then I asked him what do you think in his performance in Agriculture(Adesina), he said he has done well
I mentioned Aganga(Trade and investment) he said very well. he said NOI has done well too and went ahead to add the minister for works mike Onolememen. He said the man has done well too. Transport, he is impressed

And I asked, why won't you vote for him since you know all these? He said, he is not feeling him in his business. He wants things to go back to easier ways.

I told him about Sam Ohuabunwa's opening statement in his article where he said that good performance means different things to different people. He was a typical example of people who want him out because his reforms have reduced undue profit.

GEJ is fighting a hydraheaded monster. God is his strength