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| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 11:49pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
FrancisTony:Says God almighty himself. Or if you can't stomach that; Says millions of years of evolution. Or better yet; Says Science. Take your pick. Messenger of who? GOD? And that equals Angel.Angelos is ancient greek for "messenger", not "male". Accept correction pls. Behave? Sound like a woman? Online?You know I'm not the only one that has pointed this out to you. Honestly i think even them ladies should be getting tired of your effeminate behaviour. I could be wrong, but i doubt it. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 11:52pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
TV01:Are there any feminists that aren't self proclaimed feminists?? Explain yaself ![]() 1. No human intimate relationship is ever egalitarian - note we touched on lesbians having the most violent relationships.1.) Bullsh1t! Except you are trolling and you are taking equality to an insane level where it has to be tit for tat with an obsession for recording who gives and takes. I consider my relationship to be egalitarian. 2.) Link! So we either have lots of Femininists married to Betas or we have CocoYou always talk with both sides of your mouth. *Let me pretend I have no issues with the Alpha and Beta bullshit in a civilized society and bite* If a man is supposedly superior to a woman based on her gender alone; then why can't an Alpha male deal with an Alpha female, Is he scared? You are making Alphas look like men with really fragile egos who can't take a lil competition from an "inferior" gender. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 11:52pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:No you don't know me. Examples of women I have insulted pls. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 11:53pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:Exactly! Any man that doesn't agree with them is effiminate. Funny how some people equate effiminate men to gays and masculine women to lesbianism. It might interest them to know that some gay men are chauvinistic and misogynist going by some articles/research I have read online. Smh for emotional family section men. ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 12:00am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:blackleopard doesnt sound effeminate, yet he is pro-feminism. study his moniker for pete's sake. You on the other hand ooooze feminity, not even feminism sef. and it has nothing to do with supporting the feminist cause. you even have chimamanda as your dp, you literally worship the air she breathes. I bet you would faint if she gave you a call. I have her number, do you want it? ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 12:01am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:We're on the internet, that goes for granted. With using femininity as an insult, even if against other men and not women? You're insulting every woman out there. It's not the same as being blatantly misogynist, yet the insult is still obvious enough. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 12:02am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:Balderdash! I have got many men and women around me. No need to believe any hearsay. Like Bukatyne asked you, why do men get riled and darn emotional finding out that their couple cheat meanwhile women handle it maturedly? You stylishly ignored. You know I'm not the only one that has pointed this out to you.Angelo is a male name in greek translating to Angel. Mtcheew You might wanna download and listen to this Voice Note shout out. ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/2242683/romancelanders-voice-note-thread-2015/60#32646519 |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 12:03am On Apr 15, 2015*. Modified: 7:50am On Apr 15, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:Wait, let me understand your last statement well. By calling francistony effeminate, I have insulted women? ![]() See Francis? Even the women don't want to be associated with u ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 12:07am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:Yes because the context to the 'effeminate' used against men is to denote 'lacking in some area important for men', masculinity. It implies women are weaker, or less worthy, by default state. That a man who even remotely has feminine characteristics, is a bad man, because it's bad to be a womanly man. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 12:08am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:I won't mind worshipping her than dumbtards. I've got no sister and that's the love I need to show women. Meanwhile, I'm not her fan freak because she's a feminist. I love her writings and yes! We hail from the same state. In Osho's voice, "Go and ......" |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 12:13am On Apr 15, 2015 |
lol @ bold.Better at sitting down and being cute. Make that cuter in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. How dare a woman aspire to be anything else when almighty OP and his cohorts have diagnosed such aspirations to be the reason behind the unhappiness of the modern woman? .BlackLeopard: |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 12:18am On Apr 15, 2015*. Modified: 7:51am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:em...meaning you are too stubborn to listen to any facts? Like Bukatyne asked you, why do men get riled and darn emotional finding out that their couple cheat meanwhile women handle it maturedly? You stylishly ignored.what? how can even you believe this statement? Women handle it maturely and everyday we see threads and pity parties and screenshots and pics of how "he cheated on me?" Leave my bukatyne out of this, I know how i respond to her. It's you we're talking about here. Angelo is a male name in greek translating to Angel. MtcheewNow this part of you i admire. Stubbornly holding on to your falacies despite irrefutable proof that you are wrong ![]() Kindly google up "angelos, greek meaning" and origins of the word "angel" I know you will do it and appreciate it even if you don't admit it here ![]() You might wanna downloading and listen to this Voice Note shout out.Thanks Didn't open it but i appreciate it all the same ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 12:24am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:Her name doesn't lie, she's truly a gift from god, I'm more surprised there isn't more people in open admiration of Chimamanda to be honest. In my eyes it's a rather respectful stance to awesome woman, awesome person, and awesome writer, nothing worth shaming. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 12:31am On Apr 15, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:Cool logic. Misplaced, but cool. I dont believe men and women are equal. Never have. No apologies. It doesn't make women "less worthy" as you so erroneously believe. Your interpretation of "effeminate' is very wrong. In fact I think this is where your irksomeness comes from. Effeminate, according to Webster's dictionary, means having or showing qualities that are considered more suited to women than to men. If you on your own now feel that the qualities displayed by women are "weaker", or "less worthy", that's your problem. p.s The average woman is physically weaker than the average man. Fact. Yet with her beauty alone she sent nations of men to war and ultimately to their deaths. there is nothing wrong in a woman being effeminate, it is their nature. There is everything wrong in a man being effeminate, it is against his nature. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 12:38am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:Instead of worshiping her why not try to surpass her, how about that? Awwwww, no sister and raised by grandma (I find nothing wrong with this by the way, but it does shed some light on your mannerisms). But you can support women without being so blatantly antagonistic towards men, don't you think?Personally I think after purple hibiscus the rest of her novels were blah. But thats just my opinion. you know once you start raising hairs it means our discussion will soon be over... |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 12:41am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:The only issue with this: I wasn't in fact speaking about myself. What I believe or don't believe; what I spoke of was societal notion of the word effeminate and how it's used in colloquial use. 5minsmadness:There is a dictionary definition for everything, yet the practical use (and common idea when certain words are spoken) still need to be taken into account when discussing this. Though I'm thankful you've provided with what definition of effeminate you're operating, that can certainly help us reach a common ground. ![]() And again as stated above - I wasn't speaking about my beliefs or lack of. More the language and associations as I've observed them in use. Which of course would differ from codified version as outlined by a dictionary. 5minsmadness:I beg to differ. There's nothing as biologically determined nature of men, women, or other people. How we perceive manhood and womanhood is a social construct, it's not nature that places these limitations, but societies, and societies raised with a particular doctrinal (and outdated) biology view (yes, I just called Darwin outdated.). Findings in other sciences past half a century have found actually biologically, in hormonal structure, in brain structure, in chromosomes, we're very alike, and the differences are rather fluid. Ditto appropriate behavior for male and female roles - that's all a question of social conditioning, more than hard wired predetermined traits. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 12:48am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:I'm not towing the line of literature. So, there's no need surpassing her because she's not above me either. Oh please, I don't have a brother either. Stop nurturing any nasty thoughts. By the way, i'm not antagonizing men. Family section men hypocrisy irks me. You'll like "Purple Hibiscus" and "Things around your neck" because they are secondary school novels. ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 1:02am On Apr 15, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:I am a member of society and I have never viewed the word like you view it. go figure. There is a dictionary definition for everything, yet the practical use (and common idea when certain words are spoken) still need to be taken into account when discussing this. Though I'm thankful you've provided with what definition of effeminate you're operating, that can certainly help us reach a common ground.I like this statement. It is very true also for feminists and the feminist movement. The dictionary meaning is so not at par with the behavior of so called feminists of today. Hence the bitterness and angst towards them. They think men don't want them to be empowered and yet they forget that it was the men that pushed the first wave and enacted laws that empowered women in the first place. You see a poster coming here to say that it was because of feminism she got an education meanwhile her father never heard the word but sent her to school anyway and her mother was never uneducated. Their sensationalism and hypocrisy stinks to high heavens and is beyond irritating. And again as stated above - I wasn't speaking about my beliefs or lack of. More the language and associations as I've observed them in use. Which of course would differ from codified version as outlined by a dictionary.ok. I beg to differ. There's nothing as biologically determined nature of men, women, or other people. How we perceive manhood and womanhood is a social construct, it's not nature that places these limitations, but societies, and societies raised with a particular doctrinal (and outdated) biology view (yes, I just called Darwin outdated.). Findings in other sciences past half a century have found actually biologically, in hormonal structure, in brain structure, in chromosomes, we're very alike, and the differences are rather fluid. Ditto appropriate behavior for male and female roles - that's all a question of social conditioning, more than hard wired predetermined traits.Pardon my french, but if you see a naked person walking down the road with a dick swinging between the legs, what will be your first assumption? Male or female? A madman slaps a woman and a madwoman slaps a man, who are you going to assist first? Who has a higher muscle mass? Who has higher testosterone and aggression levels? Are all these socially conditioned as well? Have you watched the movie "The Blue Lagoon"? Two children stranded on an island in the middle of the ocean, one male, one female. Total abscence of the guidance or restrictions of society. Both grew to adolescence and eventually adulthood together. The boy naturally took on the leadership and protection and hunter role. The girl naturally took on the carer, nurturer and home-maker role. It is movements like feminism and gayism that is forcing us through societal, legal and political pressures to perceive them as normal when we all quite clearly know they are not. If i ask if you are gay you will deny it yet in a bid to be politically correct you will immediately add that you see nothing wrong in it and they (not you) are free to express themselves however they see fit. Anyone who makes an anti-feminist statement is called a misogynist and if he holds public office he/she is called upon to publicly apologise or possibly risk not being re-elected. It goes on and on. Man is the head. Woman his helper. Child their responsibility. Society their legacy. End of story. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by 5minsmadness: 1:07am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:Single child!!!!!! I thought as much, grandma's pet eh? ![]() All family section men hypocrisy? All?? Show me a post where you supported a man, any man's view, on this forum. Yes, that must be the reason why I like them, the others are long, boring and worst of all without pictures and send me to sleep fasting than my sleeping pills ![]() |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 1:22am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:I haven't viewed it that way either, yet how we as individuals view something doesn't change the notion in majority group of anywhere. 5minsmadness:Those laws were long overdue. It's a shame they weren't there sooner, that it had to be this long to even get laws in effect guaranteeing basic human rights. So your statement 'it's the men who enacted the original laws' could surely be viewed as men doing a favor of sorts to women... but if you look at the larger scope, guaranteeing any minority group basic rights they have as fellow PEOPLE, it's really not doing any sort of a favor, but very belated apology after years of that other group's inmesurable suffering. 5minsmadness:But look at the next many women who don't for instance even hear of having any rights, who whole their lives just hear to suck it up, it could have been worse somewhere. That sort of logic doesn't get us anywhere; it's always worse somewhere. I thought the goal is getting be better. And what desperate people do to get their voices heard is I don't think up for judgment of those not sharing that despair. It's as simple as that. It's not hypocritical to require respect however (preferably legally) available. 5minsmadness:Neither. My first thought would be there's a naked person, who is walking, and depending the style of the walk and ocassion, it's either not my business, or my business to ask that person if they don't need an assistance, because a naked person in the middle of a street when it isn't a march specifically meant for that is surely experiencing a mental distress they better get addressed, and is requiring a medical attention. A madman slaps a woman and a madwoman slaps a man, who are you going to assist first?The hurt party. The slapped person. 5minsmadness:Individual. I can't respond to that with generic idea, there's multiple men who don't have that muscle mass and women who do. 5minsmadness:Ditto, it's still individual. 5minsmadness:The interpretation of those signs as masculine x feminine, is. We could well be simply talking of X trait, as required for Y activity, or as suitable Z activity instead of something else. We could be talking about bodies in a different way than label gender and the informational value woulda be the same, if not greater. 5minsmadness:I haven't - thank you for the movie recommendation and I will ammend that as soon as possible, it certainly sounds as an interesting movie to watch. ![]() However, that some people are inclined to do this or that role, still doesn't speak about biological determinism, more shared cultural values passed through genetically, if something, but the beginning of that division was still cultural, somewhere along the way, and then deciding it works out just well, let's do it repeatedly. 5minsmadness:You're entitled to your views, but you're still owing fellow people a basic respect, and a way for them to not feel threatened around you. Which spreading hate everywhere one goes, indeed isn't. This isn't just about being politically correct. This isn't about rhetorics. This is about lived feeling of safety. About being a decent person to fellow people. You don't have to adapt the same mindset, values, lifestyles. But to restrict people's right to live their lives in peace, with who they are happy with? Yeah, I do see an issue with that. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by liquidmetall: 1:38am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Vickybee:Are u adichie?? Try and create a niche for yourself first then we can now call u a feminist or regard you as one More like someone saying am a musician then when asked where is your album or any song that you have produced,,the person will start mentioning a well known musician's song Adichie is a Writer Award winner Married She is not milking the economy And she is a femnist Then you Who are you? |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by liquidmetall: 2:04am On Apr 15, 2015 |
lezz:The key word there is balance My sisters friend is an example So career driven, Works in a bank Leaves by 7 comes back by 10 Husband works too,lost touch with the husband and two girls cos she is always coming back late and did not want to take up another job that will be convinient for her and family She didnt know when the daughters started menstruating self Until she collapsed on her work place It was the same husband and children that looked out for her on her sick bed( the people she wasn't paying attention to) The bank only sent a letter to her When she recovered she said to her self assuming that I gave up the ghost, ,my bank will still continue work as if nothing happened After that she left the job and looked for another one that will help her to maintain balance between her and family The key word there is balance |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 2:50am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Gosh I'm just seeing this post. So 'real' men whose wives work 8-5 don't find them attractive? That would make millions of men out there who aren't finding their wives seductive anymore. Jeeeeeeeez! Bro. No offense. Are you high? no offense pls I beg.Where do you live That the men are all so rich their wives can afford to work 8am - 12 noon everyday? You think a woman having a career or a job she does to support her family or does simply because she loves it is about power hunger? I shake my head for you bro. Make sure you don't educate your daughters so that none of them will make the mistake of trying to be a doctor or nurse or lawyer that would require her working even more than 8-5. You know so they won't pay for such 'foolishness' in future. #i thought I'd read it all ![]() lezz: |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Ewuro4: 3:02am On Apr 15, 2015 |
@liquidmetall You said it twice and I soo agree with you : The key word is Balance. #Planning and time management Man should marry a woman that respects him and accept him as her head ( this is the new tug of war tearing families apart). diverting evolutionary blame on women's career is just ridiculous to say the least. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 5:46am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Just so you know, money does not make anyone happy. Contentment with what you have does. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:17am On Apr 15, 2015 |
5minsmadness:No man has brought any interesting and worthy to support view. By the way, sections I frequent: Dairies, Religion and Education are not gender fighters. https://www.nairaland.com/2234683/decision-hindering-own-wedding-taking#32302866 Meanwhile, my first comment on this thread was that gender inequality or equality is unexistence and no gender is superior to other. Some men are superior to women. Some women are superior to men. I was attacked because they were expecting me to type how ALL men are superior to women which is a blatatnt LIE. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:28am On Apr 15, 2015 |
crackhaus:Moses escaped being a rebel? But he died shamelessly in the wilderness. Rebellious Pharaoah, Herod etc ended the same way. You say? |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:45am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Vickybee:Lol, i always laugh when i hear ladies defending their feminist values. The truth is that you can't fight nature. God created the woman from man. She was made the weaker partner. Man and woman cannot be equal! Nature has made it so, deal with it. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:47am On Apr 15, 2015 |
JoeCutie:I gave you the general definition not everybody's own. Same way I don't expect you to define marriage in your own way. Even if you do, there must be a touch of its general definition. Or can you formulate meaningless definition? |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:49am On Apr 15, 2015 |
BlackLeopard:Utter bunkum. So, if I say a Benz moves ike a Bajaj, I have insulted Bajaj motorcycles the world over? Nonsense. It simply means the Benz is malfunctioning and does nothing to decrease the value of the motorbike. Victim mentality or logical fallacies do not change fact. And, oh, FrancisTony isn't just effeminate, dude is a faggit. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 6:57am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FrancisTony:All the "Family Section men" are not responsible for your unfortunate childhood and upbringing. Perhaps, you were rejected by both parents, perhaps, you lost them to death; fact is you lack/lacked the benefit of a male influence growing up. The "Family Section Men" is not to blame for that. You can't come and tell us what your grandma taught you about men, when we had brothers, uncles, fathers and grandfathers in our lives. Watch and learn boy. |
| Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Nobody: 7:07am On Apr 15, 2015 |
liquidmetall:Are you stupid? Why not quote the useless girl who mentioned soon-to-be female governor who's not a feminist? Her post gave you an orgäsm? And my own hit your nerve. BTW, who are you too? Someone has to be a celebrity before he/she can be a feminist. I didn't brag with Adichie's achievement. I used it as a counter argument to hers. What's the essence of bragging with mine when you'all would doubt me? I'm 17yrs. I'm in 200level I'm studying Pharmacology. I'm a feminist - if you don't like it, face your female family members I can't cower for any man. Mtcheew |
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