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SirShymexx:
Ezeagu

Breakdown of the drivers of the Lagos economy by the Lagos state government.

Interestingly, seven (7) out of the 28 Sectors emerged as major drivers of Lagos economy:

- Manufacturing - 29.60%,

- Road Transport - 26.47%,

- Building and Construction - 19.70%,

- Wholesale and Retail - 8.39%,

- Telecommunications - 3.71%,

- Financial Institutions - 3.51%

- Real Estate - 2.01%.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/images/pageimages/downloadfiles/docs/LAGOS_STATE_GDP2010.pdf (page 10)

^^^Which of these sectors is dominated by Igbos?

otr1:
So what's the essence of this topic if not begging the Yorubas to come to the rescue? What business have the Yorubas with Ibaka Port? Did we stop revenue flow from the FG to the East, or you just like blaming the Yorubas for your backwardness?
When was the last time we ever blame the Ibos for anything? If that's not a sign of superiority, then what's it? We have no point to prove to you, it's you Ibos who have been trying to prove superiority all these while, but turn around and accuse us of sabotaging you economically and politically. How is that posible for the weaker group to do? It's you people who have been blowing the ember of our ego by blaming us for your woes and even begging for help against Yoruba oppression and sabotage, as evident in this thread.
We know all your chest beating and obsession with us point to a fact; you're afraid of us. I've spent too much time with you people to be mistaken.
Since you've been exhibiting this unreciprocated hatred towards us and it's not working for you, isn't it time you try something else...something like worshipping us as your gods, may be, just may be, things we start working for you?

As for the last part of your post, if we've succeeded in ensuring your region remains backward( as you'd make us believe) without Federal might, what makes you think you stand a chance of crippling the country now that we have greater influence?
Isn't that giving us an excuse to turn you all to destitutes once and for all knowing fully well that we have an history of using economic and political weapons to win wars without firing a shot?
You better come back to your senses, you're not our match.

otr1:
So what's the essence of this topic if not begging the Yorubas to come to the rescue? What business have the Yorubas with Ibaka Port? Did we stop revenue flow from the FG to the East, or you just like blaming the Yorubas for your backwardness?
When was the last time we ever blame the Ibos for anything? If that's not a sign of superiority, then what's it? We have no point to prove to you, it's you Ibos who have been trying to prove superiority all these while, but turn around and accuse us of sabotaging you economically and politically. How is that posible for the weaker group to do? It's you people who have been blowing the ember of our ego by blaming us for your woes and even begging for help against Yoruba oppression and sabotage, as evident in this thread.
We know all your chest beating and obsession with us point to a fact; you're afraid of us. I've spent too much time with you people to be mistaken.
Since you've been exhibiting this unreciprocated hatred towards us and it's not working for you, isn't it time you try something else...something like worshipping us as your gods, may be, just may be, things we start working for you?

As for the last part of your post, if we've succeeded in ensuring your region remains backward( as you'd make us believe) without Federal might, what makes you think you stand a chance of crippling the country now that we have greater influence?
Isn't that giving us an excuse to turn you all to destitutes once and for all knowing fully well that we have an history of using economic and political weapons to win wars without firing a shot?
You better come back to your senses, you're not our match.

edogirl2:
We all want relative independence from one another (at least the Yorubas canvassed for regional autonomy at the national conference).


My question is why blame Yoruba for everything that ever goes wrong in our region (SS)? Are some SS folks just following Igbo agenda without focusing on their own issues?

They have their region, let them canvass their own interest.

ezeagu:
Reggae and Jamaican culture can be considered Jamaica's soft power, but since Jamaican isn't a massive power in other areas, it wouldn't be accurate to describe it as a soft power. Nigeria however has economic power on the continent and also military power. All of these come together to form the countries over all power.

Nigerian music industry has grown with the help/influence of the Nigerian film industry. The Nigerian film industry is much bigger and much more influential than the Nigerian music industry.

This is not an Imo State or South East economic summit, this is '2015 South East Business Investment Summit' for Igbo traders in Lagos, hence why it's being hosted in Lagos.

The fact that you're comparing the South West of Nigeria's economy to even London is laughable. The vast majority of people do not survive on the informal sector in the UK, people in Nigeria do. The vast majority of the UK has an income of an average of over $30,000. If you want to compare the black population of the UK who make up less 2% of the UK, to the population of Igbo who make up 20% + of Nigeria, and well over 20% of Lagos, you're going to have to add the economic factors, historical factors, and demographic factors which includes per capita income for this laughable comparison.

The major banks in Lagos do not feed people in Lagos, the lock up shops, mama puts and second hand wears is what 90%+ of the 20 million people in Lagos survive on. Without that, there would be nobody in Lagos, just like there's nobody in Abuja.

ezeagu:
Good source. I'll leave the demographics of each industry to you.

Manufactures: The majority of the manufacturers create things like pharmaceuticals, textiles, automotive parts, and food and drink. These industries are helped in Lagos through its population.

Road transport is mostly a governmental thing and, like Building and Construction, is due to the population, throw 20 million people anywhere and the road transport would make a lot of money.

Wholesale and Retail? Why even bother?

Gbawe:
Shymexx, that BS is a big scam created by the empty chest-beating and braggadocio of some suffering from delusions of grandeur. Did you not see the whole picture expose thingy on Nairaland that showed many of these "CEO mansion-owners" to be hungry-looking and unkept urchins despite their empty chest-beating here? The fact is that Yorubas are firmly in control when you talk of Industry, property development and organised/multi-level businesses and the formal sector that create employment, pays taxes and grows.

You know my background so you understand the article I present below about the reality of Ghana, specifically Accra, which is similar to the situation of Lagos. Look at the list below to see the names of those engaged in big, formal and organised businesses/sectors that creates employment, pays huge taxes and are generally considered an asset to the host nation. Next minute you will see some braggarts claiming they "own" Accra merely because they are to be found in large number as petty traders in the markets in the City. A humble person would realise that even Chicken Republic, a Yoruba-owned fast food franchise operating in Ghana, generates more income, pays more taxes and employs far more Ghanaians then 60 petty trading stalls owned by igbos can manage to do. What would then be the point of those Igbo traders calling Yorubas "lazy and unambitious" when we are actually more successful at the end that matters whereas they only have large numbers in the petty trading sector as their main claim to 'dominance'. It is crazy dude and a fu*ked-up level of self-delusion.

Like I always say, if the Yorubas were braggart then this sh1te would not be funny as some would be shocked at the extent of their own self-delusion based on the 'supremacy' lies they have been told that led them to come here and brag only for pictures to show them as mainly unkept hustlers. I have no issues with anyone but when you start generalising and denigrating an assured, talented, innovative, intelligent and industrious people as "lazy and Unambitious" because of nothing but your own delusions of grandeur, driven by inferiority complex, then I will speak up with facts to show the Yorubas lag behind no one and are actually greater achievers than our understated nature predisposes against bragging about. I don't know how difficult it is for some to understand that petty trading and owning many small stalls does not mean you "own everything" and "control the economy". I even feel sorry for these guys because they are clearly victims of the malevolent indoctrination that has shaped their empty chest-beating, dishonesty and intellectual laziness.

http://citypeoplegroup.org/unveiling-nigerians-who-play-big-in-ghana/

TRIBALSTOOGE:
Jesus deliver se / ss



from shagari to Buhari ,all na gambaris



all na gari family

God save we ss/se .it is due .

we want our people to each other

Billyonaire:
Where is the future, when history has been re-elected to define a tomorrow ? There is no future to even mortgage. We are back to the 1980s.

edogirl2:
So when did other Nigerians (Edos, Hausas, Igbiras etc) meet and tell you they're willing to fight alongside Igbos against Yorubas over Lagos.


Nigerians, except Igbos, recognise Lagos as a Yoruba territory. If your people want to fight over Lagos, you're on your own.

zoomzu:
The same God that gave you Gej
What has he(GEJ) done for ss/se?
Ibos and their self entitlement.

Calculia:
Why do benin people(those with yoruba parents) think they speak for other tribe in the state? Speak for dat small local government area called Benin becos once Nigeria finish everybody go answer their papa name.

SirShymexx:
You're turning the discourse into a circus argument. And with the sentence in bold - you just deflated your own argument. If Jamaica's cultural influence the world over can't be described as soft power - why should Nigeria be different? The cultural influence didn't come from just reggae - it's primarily because Jamaicans are widely travelled, and they leave a cultural impact everywhere they go. Reggae/bashment/patois follow them everywhere they go - not the other way around. UK, US, and Canada are classic examples. And right now, there's a growing Jamaican population in Scandinavian countries, with the influence, slowing but surely creeping into that axis as well.

Nigeria's military power on the continent is grossly overrated - the country doesn't have a top-10 military on the continent. And an economic power that can create its own stamp outside the shores of Nigeria, is more or less a useless one. So, what's good for the goose is good for the gander

SirShymexx:
Nah, the growth of Afrobeat is independent of Nollywood - the music industry grew with the growing population of Nigerians everywhere. The two aren't intertwined. And the re-awakening about Fela Kuti also helped a bit.

SirShymexx:
Well, the article stated that it was organised by the Imo state government.

Excerpt from the article again:

They made the call at the 2015 South East Business Investment Summit held at the National Theatre in Lagos. The summit was organized by the Imo State Government Liaison Office Lagos.

http://www.completenewsng.com/uschina-south-korea-woo-igbo-entrepteneurs-lagos/

SirShymexx:
I made comparisons based on voting and population, no economy. Stay on point.

You cited Igbo winning a seat at the Lagos assembly in an area dominated by Igbos, and I correlated it with black people winning an MP seat in the British parliament, in an area dominated by black people. But how does that change the fact that both are still inconsequential in the scheme of things?

SirShymexx:
I made comparisons based on voting and population, no economy. Stay on point.

You cited Igbo winning a seat at the Lagos assembly in an area dominated by Igbos, and I correlated it with black people winning an MP seat in the British parliament, in an area dominated by black people. But how does that change the fact that both are still inconsequential in the scheme of things?

If you had the voting power and population in Lagos, why didn't you lot float an Igbo candidate, to test ya might?

SirShymexx:
Now, you're being pedantic. The discourse is about what sectors drive the Lagos economy since you have been touting Igbos as being the economic power of Lagos. Now that ya lies have been exposed - you're going off on a tangent again.

Erm, let me clown you: let's talk about food/agriculture - do Igbos dominate that as well?

superstar1:
Naaaah.

We are have taken our present to re-design the outcome of our future for us and generations yet unborn.

TRIBALSTOOGE:


kai mei nini kafara hanyaa



kwo daya ? kwo biu ? kwo uku ? sanjima .

Billyonaire:
Is that not the same sentimental hullabaloo and fact-less brouhaha that was sold to the majority illiterates in the 1980s. Indeed we have successfully concluded a 360 degrees on history.

Calculia:
Good, go ask ur people that came to fight in the east over the east independence, if their head correct. Maybe dem miss road. Listen man i dont have time for your shi.t chat. I stand by my words.

SirShymexx:
Lol. Igbos manufacture the bold? Where and how? When did Nigeria start manufacturing automotive parts? Food and Drink? Get the porky pies out of ya mouth - Igbos are non-existent in that industry. And most of the companies are either Yoruba owned or multinationals.

SirShymexx:
The wholesale and retail can be distributed among all the ethnic groups. Err, you can give Igbos whatever percentage you want to Igbos in this sector, but that won't change the fact that it contributes little or nothing to Lagos' economy.

superstar1:
The first small steps of this generation of embracing change at the expense of continuity of cluelessness, is a giant leap for future generations.

There is no new thing under the sun and everything go round in circles. We just ended a 360 degree course of cluelessness. Welcome to the beginning of the new 360 degree course of change and prosperity for our nation.

TRIBALSTOOGE:
it is still possible team ss/se will work on that trust me we are free .



power to ss/se

Because Jamaica isn't an emerging world economy. It's pretty obvious how Jamaica and Nigeria are different in terms of political importance. Reggae isn't growing in Japan because of a large presence of Jamaicans in Japan, that's silly. How many Jamaicans 'widely travel' Africa? An nation of 2 million?

Nollywood grows in areas where there are few Nigerians. This hypothesis of moving populations being the way entertainment industries survive or grow is not even solid. The music industry is always linked with the movie industry, especially when the movie industry dwarfs the music industry. The re-awakening of Fela Kuti has nothing to do with the modern Nigerian music industry, you can't compare the quality and demographic of the two

It was organised by Rochas Okorocha through the Imo State Government, if you really want to convince me that it is an Imo State summit, then there's plenty of other coverage of the summit. The meeting was for Igbo traders in Lagos to invest in Imo State and was attended by businessmen representing the United States, South Korea and China. They know where trade is.

Now where are the Ogun, Oyo South Kore-China-America traders summits?

The thing is PDP is seen as an opposition party that has its power from people in the east. The queen did not fly off her seat for black UK people. That dynamic does not exist in the UK. You would have done better by making an analogy with Scotland maybe.

Did the source you provided say anything about the financial sector being the largest drivers of the economy? I don't understand what you mean by food, when Nigeria imports food. The key word is 'import'.

Billyonaire:
In essence, he will stabilize the price of crude oil. Such ignorance is expected of a grave digger NOT a president.

ezeagu:
Nigeria manufactures automobile parts, from smaller companies to corporations. Is there a point of arguing about the demographic of manufacturers in Lagos? There's no way to prove the demographic, so what's the point.

That doesn't sound so confident.

macjive01:
Trailer highway to Aba and Onitsha

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/M8_M7_interchange_May.JPG/536px-M8_M7_interchange_May.JPG

Billyonaire:
In essence, he will stabilize the price of crude oil. Such ignorance is expected of a grave digger NOT a president.

SirShymexx:
Arguing the demographic of manufacturers is quite easy. I believe Lagos has a few industrial estates, hence manufacturing was listed as the biggest driver of its economy. We just need to list the manufacturing companies in Lagos, and what part of the country the owners and biggest shareholders are from. And the multinationals.
You and I know once we start doing that - Igbos won't even make 5% of the list. We have done it in the past.

edogirl2:
This idea that Igbos 'control' commerce in Nigeria is yet another chest beating nonsense that bears no correlation to reality.

If you say Igbos are dominant in trading, yes, one can let that pass. But 'commerce?' that's nonsense.


Igbos do not control Nigerian economy. Fact.

superstar1:
No, he will not stabilise the price of crude oil because it's beyond him, but he will fix the refinery issues, thereby reducing the pressure on foreign reserve, reducing fx demand and stabilising the dollars and creating employment through the development of ancillary industries to the refineries.

He will fix power, which will impact massively on our MSMEs, thereby creating more job opportunities and employment, increasing the GDP and this will make Nigeria to keep being the number 1 investors destination in Africa.

He will reduce corruption. Thereby sanitising the business environment., increasing transparency of the Nigerian business climate, as well as easy of doing business in Nigeria. This will increase investors confidence in the Nigerian business market, with attendant more investors and investments coming in. This will lead to more employment.

He will not give our barn of yams to the goats and stealing will be corruption. The will promote the culture of accountability and transparency, which will increase the trust of the international investors in Nigeria, more investments and more employment.

QED.

SirShymexx:
Ezeagu

Breakdown of the drivers of the Lagos economy by the Lagos state government.

Interestingly, seven (7) out of the 28 Sectors emerged as major drivers of Lagos economy:

- Manufacturing - 29.60%,

- Road Transport - 26.47%,

- Building and Construction - 19.70%,

- Wholesale and Retail - 8.39%,

- Telecommunications - 3.71%,

- Financial Institutions - 3.51%

- Real Estate - 2.01%.

http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/images/pageimages/downloadfiles/docs/LAGOS_STATE_GDP2010.pdf (page 10)

^^^Which of these sectors is dominated by Igbos?