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kimco:
The most reasonab£e one yet.

Other pc gamers actually believe that if a game doesn't require extremely heavy hardware (980 gtx and 970) for ultra at 1080p then they aren't using the pc hardware well enough. I'm starting to hate pc gaming, I tell u.

Most of those wu say such are probably all these White kids who get the various PC components on sale from the local store down the street from their house.
I've often asked myself why when new games come out u can play them on consoles without havung to upgrade the console hardware. But aside from the fact dat game devs always wantu push out visual quality, the PC always constantly gets a significant hardware upgrade everytime a new game is released. Life as a PC gamer can be frustrating at times. But i'll always choose a PC ova a Console any day.

swagifted:
its called "next gen".. Which is tallying with pS4 and xbox one...unless u want to be playing ps3 grade games on ur pc...980 gtx and co are built to imitate the PS4 and Xbox one capability on PC...lol..change is expensive especially if u want to be up to date...du u know how much it will cost u to build a pc that can handle the new batman at ultra?? Over 200K...(Where as a PS4 retails for half or less)...just a 4gig nvidia graphics card is like $500 or more ...(Which is a benchmark for 4K gaming) and yeah u neeed a 4K tv to push out those pictures...4K TV's are exxppeennssiivvee!!!!! The new bat man sef their minimum processor na core i5...hw is core i5 minimum biko...which means days of core i3 are numbered sef...to cut long story short...cut your coat to your size..

PS4 & XBOX 1 might be the next gen, but bro dont get it twisted. The PC ll always be generations ahead of those consoles. Even the minimum specs of Black Ops 3 ll happily run circles around the consoles for yrs. Even some laptops now ll beat the current gen consoles hands down. The notàble change i still see in the so called nxt gen consoles is the fact that the games now run in 60fps as opposed to the 30fps of the older generations. And u saying the 980 gtx immitates the PS4 is just absurd. The PS4 has nothing on a 580 gtx o.....not to talk of the monster 980.

AdeLaNa1:
Most of those wu say such are probably all these White kids who get the various PC components on sale from the local store down the street from their house.
I've often asked myself why when new games come out u can play them on consoles without havung to upgrade the console hardware. But aside from the fact dat game devs always wantu push out visual quality, the PC always constantly gets a significant hardware upgrade everytime a new game is released. Life as a PC gamer can be frustrating at times. But i'll always choose a PC ova a Console any day.

well there's the fact that console hardware is same across board for a given console derefore optimisation goes a long way to help. however now even dat point is being rendered moot since a gtx 750 ti often performs better than the ps4. and u are ryt. these young white boys who have sli/ crossfire high end gpus in their machines are the ones that say that a lot. they p.i.s.s me off.

swagifted:
pls list the components of a $400 gaming pc (and dia prices) that can match the PS4 or xbox one

http://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399/

You're welcome.

Guys is dere a 2TB SSD(Desktop)? Never heard or seen anyone dat big

AdeLaNa1:
Guys is dere a 2TB SSD(Desktop)? Never heard or seen anyone dat big

Most definitely, they cost a pretty penny though, upwards of a thousand bucks.

dazekid:
Most definitely, they cost a pretty penny though, upwards of a thousand bucks.

Never knew. 1k for ssd. Dats like 200,000naira o. Damn! One dude on GTA V thread said he had one. Wen i start mking money i'm def gon build a desktop. So many perks to enjoy from building one

dazekid:
http://gamingbolt.com/how-to-make-a-gaming-pc-that-can-compete-against-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-for-399/

You're welcome.

ur msi vga is 1GB...(I de laff u ),...the 400 is minus operating system...maybe na APC go dash u dat one ...and u r still dealing with USB 2.0...am sorry...this ur setup is not legitimately on par with ps4 and xbox 1..go and google more

I find it a bit funny when someone equates a PS4 or an Xbox one to a modern high-end PC, because both the PS4 and the Xbox One were released in November 2013, a whooping 16 months. A lot has happened in the PC gaming scene during that period, in fact the PS4 and Xbox One can't even compete with gaming PCs from the first quarter of 2014.
Consoles are relatively easier to develop for because the hardware and software are standardized (you know what to expect), whereas when developing games for PCs there are so many hardware and software variables to consider (OS, GPU, CPU, RAM, and drivers). Consoles are basically plug-in and play, while PCs require tweaking and matching to get the very best.
That being said, PC gaming is not for the faint of wallet, or heart. To game comfortably on a PC, you'll need decent amounts of cash and know-how.

swagifted:
ur msi vga is 1GB...(I de laff u ),...the 400 is minus operating system...maybe na APC go dash u dat one ...and u r still dealing with USB 2.0...am sorry...this ur setup is not legitimately on par with ps4 and xbox 1..go and google more

Lool! Bruh if u're a PS4 gamer, there's nothing wrong with dat. With the problems facing PC gaming in dis part of the world, its understandable why there are more PS4 gamers than PC. But dont come here and say PS4 can perform on par with the PC. Its wrong on so many levels...

swagifted:
ur msi vga is 1GB...(I de laff u ),...the 400 is minus operating system...maybe na APC go dash u dat one ...and u r still dealing with USB 2.0...am sorry...this ur setup is not legitimately on par with ps4 and xbox 1..go and google more

Yea right, what do you need USB 3.0 for exactly And you know there are various free operating systems and various ways to get Windows for free as well? Accept the fact that you were simply exaggerating based on the hype media outlets and white boys give the PS4 and Xbox one. Those consoles have been outdated since the day they launched bro.

AdeLaNa1:
PS4 & XBOX 1 might be the next gen, but bro dont get it twisted. The PC ll always be generations ahead of those consoles. Even the minimum specs of Black Ops 3 ll happily run circles around the consoles for yrs. Even some laptops now ll beat the current gen consoles hands down. The notàble change i still see in the so called nxt gen consoles is the fact that the games now run in 60fps as opposed to the 30fps of the older generations. And u saying the 980 gtx immitates the PS4 is just absurd. The PS4 has nothing on a 580 gtx o.....not to talk of the monster 980.

The truth.

swagifted:
ur msi vga is 1GB...(I de laff u ),...the 400 is minus operating system...maybe na APC go dash u dat one ...and u r still dealing with USB 2.0...am sorry...this ur setup is not legitimately on par with ps4 and xbox 1..go and google more

Dude, given that ram is important, the gpu in those consoles are not powerful enuff to utilise more than 2gb (in case of xbox one, 1gb). It's like a 7770 with 2gb of ram. It's useless. A 1.5gb 580 gtx would still wipe the floor with that of the ps4. Also really apart from copying speed which is boosted, of what use is usb 3.0 to u? In which ay is it important in gaming? The games prices + psn/xbl in the long run cancel out the os price. the console is a goto hub if u want ease of use....no hassle entertainment (even dats is vanishing faster than ethan cater...get it) but if u want the sweet deal of actually enjoying higher frames plus resolution and a haven for after release mods for games dat add new life to games, free online gaming,and half prices for games,then look no further.

Also sir, the "next gen console" are only next gen in release era, nothing else is next gen about them.

The saddest thing about these consoles is that the developers only usually get a hang of the console at the end of its life. Also many console games usually disable some of the super cool functionalities of the console's CPU and GPU. Only really crazy, extra talented, or highly dedicated game developers end up using close to 99% of a typical console's powers. Even then, these 2013 "next gen" consoles (with all features enabled, and unlocked) don't stand a snow ball's chance in an inferno against today's, or even last year's gaming PCs.
I remember someone predicting (more than 10 years ago) that consoles would simply evolve into highly customized non-IBM compatible PCs, in order to aid rapid production and subsequent upgrades.

kenomobola:
The saddest thing about these consoles is that the developers only usually get a hang of the console at the end of its life. Also many console games usually disable some of the super cool functionalities of the console's CPU and GPU. Only really crazy, extra talented, or highly dedicated game developers end up using close to 99% of a typical console's powers. Even then, these 2013 "next gen" consoles (with all features enabled, and unlocked) don't stand a snow ball's chance in an inferno against today's, or even last year's gaming PCs.
I remember someone predicting (more than 10 years ago) that consoles would simply evolve into highly customized non-IBM compatible PCs, in order to aid rapid production and subsequent upgrades.

dear sir...can u name these super cool functions for me to see. cos I'm begging to differ. this shed be gud.

kimco:
dear sir...can u name these super cool functions for me to see. cos I'm begging to differ. this shed be gud.

Console games get better as the system ages. Cases in point: MGS3-Snake Eater(PS2), Last of Us (PS3), Resident Evil 4(GameCube), Perfect Dark (N64). Developers get a hang of the system's hardware after several years developing for the system, eg PS3's Cell processor.
For instance, there is a rumor making the rounds that approximately 128 stream processors are unaccounted for in the PS4's APU, and there is no explanation for this. Who knows what happened to those cores; are the cores dead, or hidden? Only time will tell.
I think these cool features will become apparent with time, as the developers get more intimate with the hardware.

kenomobola:
Console games get better as the system ages. Cases in point: MGS3-Snake Eater(PS2), Last of Us (PS3), Resident Evil 4(GameCube), Perfect Dark (N64). Developers get a hang of the system's hardware after several years developing for the system, eg PS3's Cell processor.
For instance, there is a rumor making the rounds that approximately 128 stream processors are unaccounted for in the PS4's APU, and there is no explanation for this. Who knows what happened to those cores; are the cores dead, or hidden? Only time will tell.
I think these cool features will become apparent with time, as the developers get more intimate with the hardware.

i dnt have a problem that developers get a hang of the hardware...its only fair that graphics improve...even on iphone 3gs this happened. most of the tym they find ways to cut corners(linear games like God of war with static cameras, big games dnt have great grapbics on consoles except gta 5 with bad fps, infamous 1 and 2 have little npcs in the city), updates to free up additional processing power and ram etc. most of the things are on the side of softwares improvements. crysis 3 looks better than last of us tho (jux btw) which is a very linear game.

i get ur point...however i dont know why u call them cool features on the consoles as if they have some hidden hardware yet to be untapped....its simply optimisation with software advancements....using less to gain more....prebaked lighting instead of real time lighting which strains the console, absolutely terrible ai, non interactable environment etc.

i'm yet to read on the stream processors on the ps4 but be rest assured it'll add a few fps to the consoles. i'll on it tho..seems interesting enuff.

kimco:
i dnt have a problem that developers get a hang of the hardware...its only fair that graphics improve...even on iphone 3gs this happened. most of the tym they find ways to cut corners(linear games like God of war with static cameras, big games dnt have great grapbics on consoles except gta 5 with bad fps, infamous 1 and 2 have little npcs in the city), updates to free up additional processing power and ram etc. most of the things are on the side of softwares improvements. crysis 3 looks better than last of us tho (jux btw) which is a very linear game.

i get ur point...however i dont know why u call them cool features on the consoles as if they have some hidden hardware yet to be untapped....its simply optimisation with software advancements....using less to gain more....prebaked lighting instead of real time lighting which strains the console, absolutely terrible ai, non interactable environment etc.

i'm yet to read on the stream processors on the ps4 but be rest assured it'll add a few fps to the consoles. i'll on it tho..seems interesting enuff.

the thing is they want the PS4 an Xbox one to be showing off new skills and tricks on a long run...if they demonstrate everything now ...till PS5 and Xbox two(probably the name) unveil...their will be no news....even microsoft say Xbox one 4K ability no be now...

swagifted:
the thing is they want the PS4 an Xbox one to be showing off new skills and tricks on a long run...if they demonstrate everything now ...till PS5 and Xbox two(probably the name) unveil...their will be no news....even microsoft say Xbox one 4K ability no be now...

The only 4k xbox and ps4 would be doing is with movies, or ps1 looking games. The gpu in those things can't hope to render games at 2k let alone 4. Infact they struggle with 1080p even.

They cant demonstrate anything even if they want to. The power is simply not available. We still have a long way till human models look like real life. As of now they still look like game models (mgs: ground zeroes is really trying here tho, they look great). Ai and physics have a looooong way to go too. Even the ps5 and xbox "next"....cannot reach a good enough level unless they pocess super cpus and gpus. There are no cool hidden features anywhere in those consoles to be unlocked. But things will improve on the software side of things.

@ kenomobola: The ps4 stream processors will never get used. They are for yields. They are accounted for....just unusable and if sony tries to unlock them, they will lose more money from an incredible amount of hardware failed ps4.

kimco:
The only 4k xbox and ps4 would be doing is with movies, or ps1 looking games. The gpu in those things can't hope to render games at 2k let alone 4. Infact they struggle with 1080p even.

They cant demonstrate anything even if they want to. The power is simply not available. We still have a long way till human models look like real life. As of now they still look like game models (mgs: ground zeroes is really trying here tho, they look great). Ai and physics have a looooong way to go too. Even the ps5 and xbox "next"....cannot reach a good enough level unless they pocess super cpus and gpus. There are no cool hidden features anywhere in those consoles to be unlocked. But things will improve on the software side of things.

@ kenomobola: The ps4 stream processors will never get used. They are for yields. They are accounted for....just unusable and if sony tries to unlock them, they will lose more money from an incredible amount of hardware failed ps4.

Your analysis is spot on. I think I used the wrong word in an earlier post when I alluded to cool new features; it is rather a case of the developers getting more familiar with the PS4 and Xbox one hardware. For instance the PS3 game, Last of Us, is known to bring many PS3s to their knees; because it pushes the PS3 hardware to its limits.
I still believe PCs will forever be ahead of "next gen" consoles (be it a PS5 or an Xbox 2), because PC hardware gets upgraded at a brutally fast pace.

swagifted:
the thing is they want the PS4 an Xbox one to be showing off new skills and tricks on a long run...if they demonstrate everything now ...till PS5 and Xbox two(probably the name) unveil...their will be no news....even microsoft say Xbox one 4K ability no be now...

Even certain laptop GPUs in the 900M series struggle in 4k. Iss now PS4 and XBOX1 that ll play in 4k?? Lool!! Desktop GPUs are the only GPUs out there that ll handle 4k with ease
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gaming-in-4K.141718.0.html

Next in the AMD Series

I have a budget of 110-120,000 naira. Can anyone please suggest a very good PC for gaming? something with 2gb nvidia graphics card. hard to find in our online stores

Kenny903:
I have a budget of 110-120,000 naira. Can anyone please suggest a very good PC for gaming? something with 2gb nvidia graphics card. hard to find in our online stores

go for dell or hp m6
its comes it i7 or i5 with reasonable storage up to 1.5tb...
personally i use hp dv6 with i7 12gb ram( personally upgraded it from 8gb) 1tb storage and nvidia gt650m 2gb..
handles all my games excellents plus the fan does great work.... dont know how much it will cost in your side..... where specifically do you reside... if your in abuja i know a guy who can help you......

If your are a PC gamer and u have a very bad ass PC ...check out this new game "Project cars" ...its probably the latest most realistic Racing game ..(4K output)...and for the people that can afford racing wheel...na una go enjoy diss tin pass..(And e de pain me say I no fit afford am now) If your are a PC gamer and u have a very bad ass PC ...check out this new game "Project cars" ...its probably the latest most realistic Racing game ..(4K output)...and for the people that can afford racing wheel...na una go enjoy diss tin pass..(And e de pain me say I no fit afford am now) even has support for oculus rift VR...game dropped yesterday sha (PC)..also on p4 and xb1 sha

And this are real in game screen shots...1080p

Y'all just wanna make me cry.

AdeLaNa1:
Lool! Bruh if u're a PS4 gamer, there's nothing wrong with dat. With the problems facing PC gaming in dis part of the world, its understandable why there are more PS4 gamers than PC. But dont come here and say PS4 can perform on par with the PC. Its wrong on so many levels...

d guy is right... the ps4 can perform on par with pc , the pc graphics only looks better than d ps4 but thats it....... D performance are comparable, do u know ps4 runs mkx smoother than d pc?
Am sure u are surprised at this..... And that is why sometimes console version of some games are rated higher than their pc version.....
Pcs are obviously more powerful but it dsnt mean every game runs better on pc than consoles

Flawlessangel:
d guy is right... the ps4 can perform on par with pc , the pc graphics only looks better than d ps4 but thats it....... D performance are comparable, do u know ps4 runs mkx smoother than d pc?
Am sure u are surprised at this..... And that is why sometimes console version of some games are rated higher than their pc version.....
Pcs are obviously more powerful but it dsnt mean every game runs better on pc than consoles

You're missing something here. Have you considered that the developers sometimes take the easier option of porting the games straight from the console to the PC? Good examples of this are PES and FIFA on PCs, they always lag behind their console counterparts. If a game is originally developed for PC and then ported to consoles, you'll know which platform is the boss. Multi-platform games that run better on consoles compared to their PC versions were simply not properly optimised for PCs.

kenomobola:
You're missing something here. Have you considered that the developers sometimes take the easier option of porting the games straight from the console to the PC? Good examples of this are PES and FIFA on PCs, they always lag behind their console counterparts. If a game is originally developed for PC and then ported to consoles, you'll know which platform is the boss. Multi-platform games that run better on consoles compared to their PC versions were simply not properly optimised for PCs.

do u know all games are primarily made on pc? Even d console exclusives?

Flawlessangel:
do u know all games are primarily made on pc? Even d console exclusives?

Things don't work like that...at least not the way you think they do. The ps4 is not on par with pc...please rescind that statement cos it false. Ofcos said pc would have to spot a card at the same level as a gtx 580 or similar and upwards, and i'm sure the 570gtx is actually on par with it. Yet, that card is a dinosaur.

Now to ur point. Yes, the games are made on pc. However, there is a dev kit of the console that said game can be tailored to the given console....using all it's strengths and maneuvering its weakness. So in that case the game runs well on the console, pros and cons alike. So if that game is ported straight to the pc as it is then it means that the pc port might inherit all of the consoles weaknesses.

Case in point: MK X has x rays and fatalities at 30fps even on a gtx 980. It locked. That is a restriction of the console right on the pc. That is a case of a horrible port. Some of them are well done though. But optimising a game for pc is harder than consoles esp now that the consoles use x86 architecture and making sure the game runs well enough even over the direct x "mediator" is still a lot of work. Some companies just don't want to put in that much effort on a platform they might not make enough money on due to piracy etc. So they outsource it to cheap companies (high voltage et al)

So the day u find out a game runs better on consoles than pcs, note that it's the result of a horrible port.

kimco:
Things don't work like that...at least not the way you think they do. The ps4 is not on par with pc...please rescind that statement cos it false. Ofcos said pc would have to spot a card at the same level as a gtx 580 or similar and upwards, and i'm sure the 570gtx is actually on par with it. Yet, that card is a dinosaur.

Now to ur point. Yes, the games are made on pc. However, there is a dev kit of the console that said game can be tailored to the given console....using all it's strengths and maneuvering its weakness. So in that case the game runs well on the console, pros and cons alike. So if that game is ported straight to the pc as it is then it means that the pc port might inherit all of the consoles weaknesses.

Case in point: MK X has x rays and fatalities at 30fps even on a gtx 980. It locked. That is a restriction of the console right on the pc. That is a case of a horrible port. Some of them are well done though. But optimising a game for pc is harder than consoles esp now that the consoles use x86 architecture and making sure the game runs well enough even over the direct x "mediator" is still a lot of work. Some companies just don't want to put in that much effort on a platform they might not make enough money on due to piracy etc. So they outsource it to cheap companies (high voltage et al)

So the day u find out a game runs better on consoles than pcs, note that it's the result of a horrible port.

long story short.... Consoles are still d first choice gaming device in d world despite being less powerful than d pc.... They do more wit less power which makes dem d better gaming platform........... A pc wit d gpu of d ps4 wouldnt b able to compete wit d ps4 in a few years.....and d best part is graphics would always get better each gaming year than d previous....
Yet consoles still manage to keep up wit d demanding graphics even wit limited gpu power....... All these makes it top as d ideal and number one gaming platform.