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Ifeann:
A lot of shia Muslims even believe that Aisha and her father Abu Bakr posioned mohammed but the hadiths show it was a Jewish woman.

What exactly do you know about Shi'a to start with?! Its very funny when bigot people like you talk about Islam, you assume yourself to be "scholar".

Anyway, ALL reports of Shi'a source which says the mother of believer, 'Aisha poisoned her husband, Muhammad (peace be upon him and his household) are recorded in a SINGLE book called "Tafsir Qummi".

To disappoint you bigot-head, the book has neither author (despite being attributed to Sheik al-Qummi) nor a single Isnad (chain of narration/transmitter). That makes ALL the Ahadith and Athar in it; as well as the Book itself, Daeef Jiddan (very weak).

In fact, the only reservation why the book is not labeled Mawdoo (fabrication) is the fact that 0.1% of Ahadith in it are proven from other reliable source.

Shi'a never believe that Muhammad, the messenger of God (peace be upon him and his household) was poisoned. Any Shi'a that hold such belief took his/her the belief from "Daeef Jiddan" book.

Here's Shi'a opinion on the alleged poisoning of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his household):
www.nairaland.com/1574876/holy-prophet-poisoned-killed-died

AlBaqir:
Neither you nor wherever (the link above) you copy-pasted your thrash from forgot to provide references. You simply don't use your brain when you copy thrash.

The most comprehensive book of Imam khomeini on Jurispudencial issues is "Tarir Wasila. It is a two-volume book. Here's a link to it:
www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/index.html

A questioner asked if a child is abused, what line of action should be done? Then Imam khomeini gave this fatwa:

"if a man have intimate pleasure with a child,and penetrates a child and the child is harmed,then he should be responsible for her sustenance all her life. This girl,however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man would not be eligible to marry the girl's sister".

The above is aside the punishment of flogging the man would undergo.

This is what Bible has to say on such issue:
Death to the Rap£ Victim
(Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
"If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife".

RAP£ A GIRL AND GET A WIFE!!!:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28. If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and Desecrates her and they are discovered.

29. He shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver.c He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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LagosShia had answered and exposed once, a nairalander deep-rooted in bigotry against Islam, on this very issue. Here's the link:
www.nairaland.com/1086492/ayatollah-khomeinis-book-sex-shias

So its a dead thrash.

First, the biblical references you made do not encourage girls molestion as obtainable in islam.

Second, the link you gave for Ayatollah Khomeini's book, you didn't indicate the chapter we can find the subject-matter.

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable. If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.

You are spot on correct. The shias are even a more deadly set of fellows than the sunnis. But the sunnis had luck on their side because of their early victories. imagine if the world still had decendants of mohammed ruling Islam till this day. Abu Bakr and his supporters did the world a favour by ending mohammed bloodline from Fatimas male kids. Notice that even mohammeds male kids kept dying as infants. I wonder if someone was smothering the infants to ensure mohammeds madness ends with him. Someone must have really wAnted to seize power and all evidence points to Abu Bakr


if only movies could be made about mohammed life. The treachery, sex, deciet and murders would be overwhelming even for adults.

true2god:
You dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that islam is false, as long as you are well informed of the sunnah of the islamic prophet and the bloody history of islam. From the time of mohammed to the period of the 1st, 2nd to the 5th khalifa, it is all about war and murder of the reigning khalifas. What type of religion is that?

Mohammed laid the foundation of islam via wars and looting (war booties) and his sahabas sustained it via war, even after his death. No religion, in the entire world, was established and sustained through bloodletting except islam.

And for Aisha's marriage to the islamic prophet, it is a set-up that mohammed fell into because of his love for women. Abu Bakr knew too well that mohammed will promote him if he allowed him have his 6yr old daughter, and he got the promotion. He afterwards schemed to get the islamic prophet out of the way by poisoning him in order to take over power (the shia account of how mohammed dies is more credible than the fabrications of the sunnis).

If islam is not false, why will Abu Bakr declare war on Ali, fatimah's husband, for the leadership of the muslim empire? Why should Abu Bakr kill mohammed's grandchildren in an islamic civil war? Why should Abu Bakr declare war on all islamic apostates as soon as mohammed died? Why will saudi arabia (sunni leaders) and Iran (shia leaders) be in a state of perrenial hostility?

Something is really wrong in\with islam. The cover-ups is too much.

I actually am of the opinion that a Jewish woman poisoned mohammed aka Islamic allah. This is because I have seen it in several authentic hadiths. But u have to admit that Abu Bakr led sunnis could have made the claim to cover up Abu bakr's / Aisha's involvement in Mohammed's murder. Why would Abu Bakr and his followers fight Ali and murder Mohammed's own grand kids if not for the obsession to claim mohammeds empiree. U know the victors often distort history and write it as they please. Sunnis were victorious over the shia and told the world a jewish woman killed mohammed.

AlBaqir:
What exactly do you know about Shi'a to start with?! Its very funny when bigot people like you talk about Islam, you assume yourself to be "scholar".

Anyway, ALL reports of Shi'a source which says the mother of believer, 'Aisha poisoned her husband, Muhammad (peace be upon him and his household) are recorded in a SINGLE book called "Tafsir Qummi".

To disappoint you bigot-head, the book has neither author (despite being attributed to Sheik al-Qummi) nor a single Isnad (chain of narration/transmitter). That makes ALL the Ahadith and Athar in it; as well as the Book itself, Daeef Jiddan (very weak).

In fact, the only reservation why the book is not labeled Mawdoo (fabrication) is the fact that 0.1% of Ahadith in it are proven from other reliable source.

Shi'a never believe that Muhammad, the messenger of God (peace be upon him and his household) was poisoned. Any Shi'a that hold such belief took his/her the belief from "Daeef Jiddan" book.

Here's Shi'a opinion on the alleged poisoning of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his household):
www.nairaland.com/1574876/holy-prophet-poisoned-killed-died

true2god:
It is unfortunate that born-muslims, even converts, fail to see that islam is fake. Islam is an imperial political ideology (with religios cover), advanced by the saudi-yemeni-arabs, for global conquest. Read the quran and the hadith, do your analysis with simple logic. It is very easy to confirm that islam is fake.

Ok. Clap for yourself again.

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kay1one2:
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Thanks bro. for pasting the man's picture.

The man is full of smile after conversion. I have never seen a joyous muslim cleric, they always look sadistic with their horrible beards like someone who has just ended a meeting with the Devil.

Picture in your mind the alfas and imam you know, you will discover what am saying.

peppyluv02:
There is a local night club in utako district of Abuja. More like a shanty, built with cement bags and sticks. Condom packs lying around is a common sight. I was going to see a friend's house,she just moved into an estate in that area. When I asked her about the place because I could see it was a northern affair,she said,my sister,you won't believe what happens there. As local and as it is,once it is 9 to 10pm,you won't believe the calibre of men you will see there..in summary,your leaders from the north! Little girls under the age of 15 are brought from the far north to come and dance here. They dance naked with just 'jigida' on their waist after that,these old men feast on these babies. In there,only virgins and young ones are allowed.
I thought her to be joking and said nothing. I went to her house around 5pm, stayed till almost 10pm, on our way out hmmmmmmmmmmm that was when I knew my friend wasn't lying. What surprised me most was the security presence. Now,who do I report to if the security is aware of such evil and support it?

Don't be deceived by the coverings and violent preaching against civilization or westernization as they call it....the immorality in the north is higher than that of any region. Hypocrites! Or do I tell how I found out back then in UniAbuja that these so called 'malo' girls are drug addicts not to talk of the men. I always ask them,what does a decent lady need vaginal tightener for especially when you don't have a child yet. Why is 'that place' slacked?! Their love for sex is something else. It is a common sight to see the mallams hawking love charms, sex boosters, vagina tightener and all that. Later they tell you prostitutes are only from the south,all the northerner girls are decent...story....na who no know una.....


We couldn't take pictures because of the way the boys outside were staring at us. They could beat and break our cameras but one day I must get the picture of that place and post it all over the Internet!

this is the points I am making in the other thread.this rich men have nothing to worried even if they do all this, in Islam this is called little sins and when the rich man pay zaket and build mosques, it will be called good deed, meaning this evil men can be assured of paradise(satanic deception)

Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that
(evil deeds) through aggression and
injustice, We shall cast him into Fire,
and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye
avoid the great (things) which ye are
forbidden, We will remit from you
your evil deeds and make you enter at
a noble gate.

This clearly implies that Allah will only
send you to hell for great sins. Small sins, like lusting over a belly dancer in a
restaurant when away on a business trip will be overlooked by Allah. Islam is demonic, the devil is using the quran to captured soul to hell with it deception on paradise, in the bible we see how God will never tolerate a little sin break one law and you are guilty of All.

truthman2012:
Thanks bro. for pasting the man's picture.

The man is full of smile after conversion. I have never seen a joyous muslim cleric, they always look sadistic with their horrible beards like someone who has just ended a meeting with the Devil.

Picture in your mind the alfas and imam you know, you will discover what am saying.

I'm actually laughing at the level of hypocrisy and foolishness of the "fatwa"!

true2god:
It is unfortunate that born-muslims, even converts, fail to see that islam is fake. Islam is an imperial political ideology (with religios cover), advanced by the saudi-yemeni-arabs, for global conquest. Read the quran and the hadith, do your analysis with simple logic. It is very easy to confirm that islam is fake.

oya kill yaself na

truthman2012:
Thanks bro. for pasting the man's picture.

The man is full of smile after conversion. I have never seen a joyous muslim cleric, they always look sadistic with their horrible beards like someone who has just ended a meeting with the Devil.

Picture in your mind the alfas and imam you know, you will discover what am saying.

Be careful what you wish for. When I pictured what you just said in my mind, this came to my mind.

Empiree:
Be careful what you wish for. When I pictured what you just said in my mind, this came to my mind.

Who told you that is Jesus?
People only acted that.

Jesus beards didn't look like that of the muslims, which are tartared and unkept. Muhammad's beards arose from frequent wars he was fighting having no time for shaving but had time to meet his many wives and slaves morning, afternoon and night.

Ifeann:
Apparenly u didnt see the hadith pasaages i posted proving mohammed was a child molester.

lol...u only respnd to mentions dat u can easily throw insults to, nt those u can't defend

truthman2012:
Who told you that is Jesus?
People only acted that.

Jesus beards didn't look like that of the muslims, which are tartared and unkept. Muhammad's beards arose from frequent wars he was fighting having no time for shaving but had time to meet his many wives and slaves morning, afternoon and night.

HaHa unfortunately even the pope will say Jesus was something like this, it's in churches, christians hang it, u can c hw fake ur belief is. n d postee didn't say it was Jesus, u just concluded. Hilarious!

mustymatic:
HaHa unfortunately even the pope will say Jesus was something like this, it's in churches, christians hang it, u can c hw fake ur belief is. n d postee didn't say it was Jesus, u just concluded. Hilarious!

Muslims are hypocrites, no wonder the quran says they are stopping over in hell.

Who was on his mind when he pasted the picture?

People believe in different things and pope is not an exception. But any picture of Jesus you see was a drama acted by people, not real Jesus.

Empiree:
Be careful what you wish for. When I pictured what you just said in my mind, this came to my mind.

The best of mankind always on aluta.

truthman2012:
Muslims are hypocrites, no wonder the quran says they are stopping over in hell.

Who was on his mind when he pasted the picture?

People believe in different things and pope is not an exception. But any picture of Jesus you see was a drama acted by people, not real Jesus.

The Bible didn't say...hush! wats hypocritical abt this? u just throwing insults. did d Bible teach such ?

mustymatic:
The Bible didn't say...hush! wats hypocritical abt this? u just throwing insults. did d Bible teach such ?

Insults? No.

If you know something and you pretend not knowing, you are a hypocrite.

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Islamic threats.