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Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:32am On May 16, 2015
Bros, the brother been de find how him wan twist am to "blame Jonathan" as usual...
Mogidi:
Wow barca you be badt guy.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Jesusloveyou: 8:33am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
You can easily spot hypocrisy here. Jonathan is the God that is not prone to mistake abi? By the way, what is the mistake here? Was he blind, deaf or dumb that he wasn't aware that Nigeria have recovered a huge sum from the Abachas and the Abachas also agreed to surrender $1b? These events happened before they made the statement.
they return d money? so where is all d money, is d money added to finance budget? that is part of d secret deal gej had with abacha son, d whole exercise is a scam, we wil soon get to d bottom line.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:35am On May 16, 2015
Did you watch the LNC video on Noblezone's thread?
dearpreye:
Media? Wake up. It's all a bigger game.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:49am On May 16, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
they return d money? so where is all d money, is d money added to finance budget? that is part of d secret deal gej had with abacha son, d whole exercise is a scam, we wil soon get to d bottom line.
guy go and read the links. If you want to know how the monies was spent, ask Obasanjo and Yaradua...

Jonathat had told you that he spent over 500m Abacha loot on Rural project.

Anyway, do you agree with Old Buhari that Abacha was clean?
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by asapeola(m): 9:05am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Hypocrite!!! yes it is entertainment because its about your lord and master...

Alam got presidential pardon constitutionally meant for criminals not saints like Tinubu tongue in state council where buhari and all APC governors are members and approved same by all...

Sure corruption allegation is false and entertainment once the names of buhari, amechi, tinubu, fashola, saraki, bagudu, goje etc and all APC lords are in them...

Keep laughing and but watch gutter because your hypocrisy will get you blinded into falling into one cheesy

Why not research on PDP if you're smart enough? aside screaming unconfirmed propaganda here...

barcanista brought out facts...go bring yours
Well guy chill abit ok! No one is disputing barcanista's facts. Abacha stole money, yes we all know. Buhari defends him, well bad of him! I am saying ur hero GEJ has done worse. If we r to be very objective, abacha isnt a convict on any corruption case, so buhari myt just have an alibi! The money laundering case against muhammed abacha was dropped by this same govt ur defending.
Moreso, our leaders av said worst things in the past n yet they r still here- davd mark once said phones r not for poor people n yet he is the third most powerful man in Nigeria. Ahmadu ali, isa yuguda (on the 2011 corpers death).

So none is perfect! Thank u
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:24am On May 16, 2015
patrickmuf:
Barcanista's ADC right here...
For a good course...why not apply for gateman herecheesy
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 10:28am On May 16, 2015
Lols...e be like your turn don reach to seek protection o grin grin grin
Whynotthetruth:
For a good course...why not apply for gateman herecheesy
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:41am On May 16, 2015
angelsing:
As far as barcanista is concern he has know point or say in this, he actually kept quiet when he was still at the other side when it was reported that Buhari said Abacha was not corrupt...I will not support buhari over that statement which I believe was wrong for him to have said. Though I can still understand why he said so when he was put on the spotlight. probably due to his relationship with the family of the Abacha he could not Say it directly when asked!...Same case apply with Ezekwesili when she was asked if Obasanjo was corrupt...imagine if they ask Ngozi okonjo iweala was asked if jonathan is corrupt, what do u think her response will be?...That said, I think Buhari was wrong to have said abacha was not corrupt, he probably shud have answered the question diplomatically..
This message is about facts and not about your immature attack on Op notwithstanding his political conviction.

When he defected from PDP to APC; he was wise and a patriot to you...but suddenly after he went back to the PDP where he came from, he became a devil to you. It's a sign of deep seated hatred in you and intolerance cum disrespect for other people,s opinion and conviction outside yours. It shows you're a fanatic same quality exhibited by terrorists only that you don't carry physical bomb....grow up
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:48am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
Lols...e be like your turn don reach to seek protection o grin grin grin
Make I yarn am small...But sincerely, if I am intelligent and good enough to be called up for some political posts; why nothuh...Why should i turn it down to please someone?...if i want it but because of what they will say turn it down then i am an ediottttt...it's simply envy, cum jealousy that forces people to draw others down when they are recognized while themselves are still down...
Did the guy you're insulting stop you from achieving your own goals in life?...Many of these folks are frustrated and hatred ridden...Just do your stuff and forget them jare
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:52am On May 16, 2015
angelsing:
Barcanista you have lost all moral ground to criticise Buhari right now..You kept quiet all this while when u were campaigning for Buhari, u overlooked all this because It does not serve ur purpose then...You can cry all u want now, it won't change anything because you are probably the person people think you are...I can argue all day with whynotthetruth when I have the time over whatever thread he post at list I know he is true to his cause not like you who keeps flip floping all over the place for selfish reason....Face your blog and promote it rather than start a witch hunt that won't change the fact that Your late support for GEJ cost u ur nairaland credibility!...Cry baby Barcanista...not your fan anymore!
Evidence of deep seated animosity and hatred in you for someone who don't give a damn about you...You only destroy the little remaining in you...purge your being now
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 10:54am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Make I yarn am small...But sincerely, if I am intelligent and good enough to be called up for some political posts; why nothuh...Why should i turn it down to please someone?...if i want it but because of what they will say turn it down then i am an ediottttt...it's simply envy, cum jealousy that forces people to draw others down when they are recognized while themselves are still down...
Did the guy you're insulting stop you from achieving your own goals in life?...Many of these folks are frustrated and hatred ridden...Just do your stuff and forget them jare
I actually don't know why they are jittery. But the more they continue in their folly, the more I do my thing without blinking an eye for them.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:05am On May 16, 2015
angelsing:
hahahahah....Buhari fanatic?, far from it...irony of life, you are the one crying all over nairaland everyday over the epistle of buhari this buhari that....It is obvious you are the pained one here...How best to describe any sour loser, just cream barcanista and there u have it.....Cry from now till 2019, we will continue to bath with ur tears...Thanks once again for convincing me to vote Buhari, I will forever be grateful....Not your fan anymore!
I think the joke is on you guys...because I still happily criticize buhari and I receive attacks in return which is a strong evidence of frustration, hatred, and immaturity of the attackers...barcanista writes his stuff and drops here...I think the unhappy ones are those jealous of him and cracking brains on how best to insult him instead of his posts. It's a proof too that outside him nobody else can concoct any valuable article in your camp...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by OrlandoOwoh(m): 11:08am On May 16, 2015
A first year student in the university of polytechnic that does GNS in law knows that it's unlawful to call a person who case has not been proven beyond reasonble doubt and sentenced, a criminal. Before the sentencing, the case is seen as a mere allegation. A man that is caught in the process of forcefully making love with a girl is not called a rapist, but an alleged rapist. Buhari's statement is in line.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 11:10am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
This message is about facts and not about your immature attack on Op notwithstanding his political conviction.

When he defected from PDP to APC; he was wise and a patriot to you...but suddenly after he went back to the PDP where he came from, he became a devil to you. It's a sign of deep seated hatred in you and intolerance cum disrespect for other people,s opinion and conviction outside yours. It shows you're a fanatic same quality exhibited by terrorists only that you don't carry physical bomb....grow up
It is plain obvious u don't care about my opinion on the thread it self but rather on my opinion of Barcanista...Has it is it is my opinion on him and not on u...Pls kindly let him defend himself as he is capable of doing that....Not everyone is like u who wish death on someone because of an argument on #Ekiti Gate...It is crystal clear u are the one with Anger issue has it has been seen all over the thread have had issue to argue with you..This is faceless forum and to liking me to a to a terrorist simply shows what u harbour deep in ur heart...You too grow up and stop acting like Doyin okupe
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:13am On May 16, 2015
socialmediaman:
If this was what Buhari said then there's no issue here. If you have a case against Abacha then take him to the law court and jail him, not level accusations just like GEJ was doing to Tinubu through AIT and the hate documentary. Don't just accuse someone of being corrupt even 10yrs after when you're the government who has all the evidence, that was Buhari's point in all that.
See hypocrisy... have you taken any of those in Jonathan administration who you have been emotionally convicting and blackmailing here to courthuh...I wanted see how strong you will condemn buhari given his speech even with all the evidence and loot returned; unfortunately you didn't disappoint me by showing what a hypocrite you're... it's really pathetic how you guys hate people and condemn them even with no evidence...Today, we have all the evidence and you're saying; "if it is".... pathetic souls and hypocrites... so much for anti-corruption folks...bet it you people will be worse than abacha in looting...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 11:14am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Evidence of deep seated animosity and hatred in you for someone who don't give a damn about you...You only destroy the little remaining in you...purge your being now
Must everyone be like u when it comes to anger?...Please deal with ur anger and stop imagining everyone must be like you!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by socialmediaman: 11:23am On May 16, 2015
I'm a patriot! I stand for the truth, sometimes it's not logical, but truth is, those allegations remained allegations without a guilty verdict. We know Abacha looted money, but then why didn't the government go to the courts to prove these? What if some of that money belonged to Yasaar Arafat or Ghadaffi and not Nigeria? We have laws, man.

Whynotthetruth:
See hypocrisy... have you taken any of those in Jonathan administration who you have been emotionally convicting and blackmailing here to courthuh...I wanted see how strong you will condemn buhari given his speech even with all the evidence and loot returned; unfortunately you didn't disappoint me by showing what a hypocrite you're... it's really pathetic how you guys hate people and condemn them even with no evidence...Today, we have all the evidence and you're saying; "if it is".... pathetic souls and hypocrites... so much for anti-corruption folks...bet it you people will be worse than abacha in looting...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:29am On May 16, 2015
unphilaz:
Apply same to GEJ

GEJ isn't God, so u don't expect him to be perfect in his actions and statements. He can't always be right. Only God is perfect..
Thanks...this will tell you that Jonathan ouster isn't about his performance but ethno religious sentiments and animosity against him...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 11:32am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
I think the joke is on you guys...because I still happily criticize buhari and I receive attacks in return which is a strong evidence of frustration, hatred, and immaturity of the attackers...barcanista writes his stuff and drops here...I think the unhappy ones are those jealous of him and cracking brains on how best to insult him instead of his posts. It's a proof too that outside him nobody else can concoct any valuable article in your camp...
I hear you!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:34am On May 16, 2015
angelsing:
It is plain obvious u don't care about my opinion on the thread it self but rather on my opinion of Barcanista...Has it is it is my opinion on him and not on u...Pls kindly let him defend himself as he is capable of doing that....Not everyone is like u who wish death on someone because of an argument on #Ekiti Gate...It is crystal clear u are the one with Anger issue has it has been seen all over the thread have had issue to argue with you..This is faceless forum and to liking me to a to a terrorist simply shows what u harbour deep in ur heart...You too grow up and stop acting like Doyin okupe
I called you to express your opinion about the topic not about the person of Op...You just ran out of track...accept it bro...if I mess up, I accept too and apologise and move on...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 11:55am On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
I called you to express your opinion about the topic not about the person of Op...You just ran out of track...accept it bro...if I mess up, I accept too and apologise and move on...
Seriously I don't have anything against the OP but there are something he has lost all credibility to post...Funny enough I was a big fan of him not because he supported buhari but because of his opinion on issues..e.g his stands on Buhari not attending the debate...abeg guy make we leave matter ooo...I hear you sha!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by patrickmuf(m): 1:02pm On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
For a good course...why not apply for gateman herecheesy
You're better off ignored...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by OrlandoOwoh(m): 1:34pm On May 16, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
See hypocrisy... have you taken any of those in Jonathan administration who you have been emotionally convicting and blackmailing here to courthuh...I wanted see how strong you will condemn buhari given his speech even with all the evidence and loot returned; unfortunately you didn't disappoint me by showing what a hypocrite you're... it's really pathetic how you guys hate people and condemn them even with no evidence...Today, we have all the evidence and you're saying; "if it is".... pathetic souls and hypocrites... so much for anti-corruption folks...bet it you people will be worse than abacha in looting...
Even if it it's held by a court today that Abacha embezzled public fund, Buhari won't withdraw his statement because as at when it's made, was an alleged criminal, not a criminal (in the eyes of the law).
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:21pm On May 16, 2015
socialmediaman:
I'm a patriot! I stand for the truth, sometimes it's not logical, but truth is, those allegations remained allegations without a guilty verdict. We know Abacha looted money, but then why didn't the government go to the courts to prove these? What if some of that money belonged to Yasaar Arafat or Ghadaffi and not Nigeria? We have laws, man.
smh...definition of hypocrisy is you...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 6:47am On May 17, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Even if it it's held by a court today that Abacha embezzled public fund, Buhari won't withdraw his statement because as at when it's made, was an alleged criminal, not a criminal (in the eyes of the law).
But i find it queer that on the case of GEJ aides, the APC propaganda machine never never saw it as "was an alleged criminal, not a criminal (in the eyes of the law)" but judged and executed that the aides were CRIMINAL and not alleged criminal. Lets apply same priniciple to everyone not just who we feel we like!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by socialmediaman: 9:07am On May 17, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
smh...definition of hypocrisy is you...
Ok fine, I guess you didn't get the gist..

The gist is, right now, many Nigerians don't give a sh**t about what GMB did or didn't do in the past, this election was all about removing Jonathan and moving forward, for given us one of the worst leadership ever.. What Nigerians need is good governance that will affect their lives positively, after that happens, then you may come back and repost these.. Maybe then some people will give some sh**t
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by PassingShot(m): 9:20am On May 17, 2015
barcanista:
You can easily spot hypocrisy here. Jonathan is the God that is not prone to mistake abi? By the way, what is the mistake here? Was he blind, deaf or dumb that he wasn't aware that Nigeria have recovered a huge sum from the Abachas and the Abachas also agreed to surrender $1b? These events happened before they made the statement.
Eeya! Did you forget to use this your newly found evidence/dirt against the amiable General during electioneering campaign? Oh, the documentary done by PDP was even more and the General scaled it too!

When are you going to stop being traumatized by the loss boy? It was only an election which must produce a winner and a loser.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 1:35pm On May 17, 2015
socialmediaman:
Ok fine, I guess you didn't get the gist..

The gist is, right now, many Nigerians don't give a sh**t about what GMB did or didn't do in the past, this election was all about removing Jonathan and moving forward, for given us one of the worst leadership ever.. What Nigerians need is good governance that will affect their lives positively, after that happens, then you may come back and repost these.. Maybe then some people will give some sh**t
Source:
http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/corruption-obasanjo-buhari-govts-worse-
than-jonathan-says-t-i/
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by psalmizt(m): 1:50pm On May 17, 2015
barcanista:
7 Years after making the statement, the incorruptible Muhammadu Buhari is yet to apologise to Nigerians, neither has he withdraw his statement. We can all conclude that Buhari is as incorruptible as sani Abacha.


cc: Truckpusher, Whynotthetruth, Temitemi1, Anonimi, Dearpreye, SeverusSnape, Francizy Mogidi

Ishilove and Lalasticlala
I have largely avoided this thread. Anyone who believes Abacha was not corrupt must be the greatest Nigerian fool alive. Here's a quick peek into what could have transpired under his regime. Take crude oil sales. He was the sole agent on d buyer and seller side in addition to unilaterally giving commissions on crude sales and then the singular personality that determined what was imported as refined products. Just take the current subsidy debacle and picture 1 man in the centre of everything instead of the myriads of marketers. In just that sector you will understand why the Abacha family will say no matter how poor they get they can never be as poor as Dangote. The family is said to own huge chain of businesses wrongly ascribed to the Lebanese and Chinese concerns. Only insiders can verify such claims. So it all depends on what corruption is. Those generals who assigned juicy oil blocks of the Niger Delta to themselves are equally corrupt. OBJ who made himself Minister of Petroleum for 8 years is also corrupt. The major reason for GEJ being referred to as corrupt, not that he is a saint, is the transparency he introduced. Things are most likely to be reported under GEJ than under OBJ. It is funny some ppl re saying GEJ is the most corrupt Nigerian leadeR. Imagine the dude is yet to even complete his house in Abuja. Well we know certain ppl have to be given a bad name so as to justify the need for a regional shift in power.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:51pm On May 17, 2015
psalmizt:
I have largely avoided this thread. Anyone who believes Abacha was not corrupt must be the greatest Nigerian fool alive. Here's a quick peek into what could have transpired under his regime. Take crude oil sales. He was the sole agent on d buyer and seller side in addition to unilaterally giving commissions on crude sales and then the singular personality that determined what was imported as refined products. Just take the current subsidy debacle and picture 1 man in the centre of everything instead of the myriads of marketers. In just that sector you will understand why the Abacha family will say no matter how poor they get they can never be as poor as Dangote. The family is said to own huge chain of businesses wrongly ascribed to the Lebanese and Chinese concerns. Only insiders can verify such claims. So it all depends on what corruption is. Those generals who assigned juicy oil blocks of the Niger Delta to themselves are equally corrupt. OBJ who made himself Minister of Petroleum for 8 years is also corrupt. The major reason for GEJ being referred to as corrupt, not that he is a saint, is the transparency he introduced. Things are most likely to be reported under GEJ than under OBJ. It is funny some ppl re saying GEJ is the most corrupt Nigerian leadeR. Imagine the dude is yet to even complete his house in Abuja. Well we know certain ppl have to be given a bad name so as to justify the need for a regional shift in power.
Thanks for this post Sir...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by OreMI22: 7:41pm On May 17, 2015
[size=17pt]CONFAB approved a 50% derivation principle.What needs to happen now is a guerrilla warfare against oil pipelines, installations and personnel.[/size]
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by TRUTHTOPOWER: 9:11pm On May 17, 2015
barcanista:
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General Muhammadu Buhari
"All the allegations levelled against the personality of the late Gen. Sani Abacha will remain allegations. It is 10 years now, things should be over by now." “ten years after Abacha, those allegations remain unproven because of lack of facts”.
whynotthetruth hear more: the 'whole' truth, "nothing" but the truth. GMB simply afforded Gen Abacha the constitutional presumption of innocence. it is a legal right that he is entitled to. so the burden of proof is on you to prove beyond reasonable doubt. GMB did not exonerate Abacha nor absolve him of other charges against him. But he said after 10 years all these talk should be over if our leaders knew what they were doing. GEJ freed Abacha's men so how did GMB err by his constitutional words. Govt apparatus should not be turned into instrument of cheap blackmail. support me or I will expose you or prosecute you. The argument against GEJ is not that GMB or Abacha were saints, it is impunity in which Nigeria and Nigerians were disappearing. It was not like that under any past leader no matter what. You can give all the excuses in the world but the bulk stopped at GEJ table. what was he afraid of? they threatened to do the right thing by exposing the traitors. but at the end it was easier to keep quiet and lose power to those denigrated for four years. can you beat that?!
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