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Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rawani(op): 10:16am On Jun 13, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
There was a functional government as at 31st May 2011 even before the appointment of Anyim as Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) because President Jonathan instructed his former ministers to continue working pending the appointment of new ones.

And while General Andrew Owoye Azazi retained his position as National Security Adviser, the cabinet was finally dissolved by President Goodluck Jonathan a few days after he told his ministers to carry on until the appointment of new ones.
That makes Jonathan a constitutional criminal! First of all that cabinet was dissolved, and any ministers not confirmed by the Senate cannot constitutionally function in any government.

Ngwakwe you should know that. Keep digging GJ in and we might pursue this constitutional breach.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:17am On Jun 13, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Why should he constitute a new cabinet when he was happy with the one he had?
You're a lier. For seven weeks there was no cabinet.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rad1cal: 10:20am On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
How many days are in February genius? How many weeks make a month genius?

Kindly refrain from insults/derogative terms.
You are simply a joke, a month is averagely 30 days. If you feel otherwise proof it or get slayed


February indeed.


Bwahahahahahahahahaha
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:22am On Jun 13, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
There was a functional government as at 31st May 2011 even before the appointment of Anyim as Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) because President Jonathan instructed his former ministers to continue working pending the appointment of new ones.

And while General Andrew Owoye Azazi retained his position as National Security Adviser, the cabinet was finally dissolved by President Goodluck Jonathan a few days after he told his ministers to carry on until the appointment of new ones.
Ngwakwe, At different times during the tenures of Obasanjo, Yar'Adua and Jonathan, Azazi served as COAS and CDS. It was after May 29 2011 that he was made NSA. Don't get confused.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rad1cal: 10:25am On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
The continuous stay in offices by the ministers amounts to a fresh appointment by the president which needs the approval of the Senate in accordance with Section 147(2) of the 1999 Constitution as amended.

The section states: “Any appointment to the office of Minister of the Government of the Federation shall, if the nomination of any person to such office is confirmed by the Senate, be made by the President.”

Anything short of this will amount to a progression in illegality and unconstitutionality.
The quoted part is very vague with respect to the thrust of your shallow thread.

No where in that quote did it stress a time limit for ministerial appointment.

Moreover they were already ratified by the senate in those capacities.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by arsetalks(m): 10:25am On Jun 13, 2015
Firefire:
We as Nigerians expect a different direction due to the new slogan in our political terrain, CHANGE! Or should we still be comparing Change with cluelessness as alleged by APC ?
Be honest with yourself. Did GEJ had a running cabinet or not? If despite being in government for 1 year plus, it still took him 6 weeks, how much more a new comer having to form a government?
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rawani(op): 10:26am On Jun 13, 2015
Rad1cal:
[s]You are simply a joke, a month is averagely 30 days. If you feel otherwise proof it or get slayed


February indeed.


Bwahahahahahahahahaha[/s]
Derail FAIL!
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by midolian(m): 10:26am On Jun 13, 2015
PassingShot:
It's good you brought this as a separate thread even though we treated it in various posts.

What I can assure the progressives here is that, many of the protection seeker's die-hard fans are becoming irritated by his "substanceless", deceitful and half-truths articles here. Hence you see many of them view his threads without making comments. Dem don dey tire of their oga at the top. cheesy cheesy
very true.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:28am On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
That makes Jonathan a constitutional criminal! First of all that cabinet was dissolved, and any ministers not confirmed by the Senate cannot constitutionally function in any government.
Ngwakwe you should know that. Keep digging GJ in and we might pursue this constitutional breach.
PassingShot:
That there are no ministers now doesn't translate that the ministries are not functioning. After all, all ministries have permanent secretaries who oversee the day to day running of their ministry.
I was just trying to clarify some misconceptions as I am not criticizing President Buhari's actions and inactions for the time being let alone on the issues of composition of cabinet.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rad1cal: 10:31am On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
Derail FAIL!
Escape failed. Is 29 days equal to a month or 30 days.

I wonder why janjawids seem to lack basic analytical processes.

Bwahahahahaha
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:32am On Jun 13, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Ngwakwe, Andrew Owoye Azazi didn't retain his position as NSA. During Jonathan's tenure as acting President, he was the COAS. It was after May 29 2011 that he was made NSA.
Andrew Azizi was not a minister as highlighted in the quote

ministers to carry on until the appointment of new ones.

The key word in the paragraph is "until"
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Ahmed4002(m): 10:33am On Jun 13, 2015
While he has preached a so-called "transformational agenda," Jonathan has so far failed the first test of transparency by failing to declare his assets or generate an offensive against corruption, Nigeria's perennial enemy. Indeed, cracks may already have begun to appear in the fabric of his government, as the Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Mohammed B. Adoke, declared during his screening at the Senate that the anti- corruption agencies do not properly understand their their statutory mandates, and that they lack the capacity to investigate and prosecute economic crimes. But it is to those agencies that Jonathan pledged to hand his war against corruption.

Thanks for this rawani.

Issokay please. ya isa dan uwa.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:35am On Jun 13, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
ministers to carry on [color] until [/color] the appointment of new ones.

The key word in the paragraph is "until"
You're a lier.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:39am On Jun 13, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
You're a lier.
Please refer to Thisday article I quoted and stop attacking my personality in this discussion.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/anyim-appointed-sgf-as-Jonathan-dissolves-cabinet/92324/
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by BMedia: 10:48am On Jun 13, 2015
PassingShot:
What I can assure the progressives here is that, many of the protection seeker's die-hard fans are becoming irritated by his "substanceless", deceitful and half-truths articles here. Hence you see many of them view his threads without making comments. Dem don dey tire of their oga at the top. cheesy cheesy
You can say that again, i've noticed all he does is copy and paste and lies. Where is barcanista to defend his hypocris
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by BMedia: 10:51am On Jun 13, 2015
Rad1cal:
Escape failed. Is 29 days equal to a month or 30 days.

I wonder why janjawids seem to lack basic analytical processes.

Bwahahahahaha
Stop being a fool. A month is either 28, 29, 30 or 31 days and they are not exactly complete days. do you know the reason for a leap year?

Silly tanoid.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:55am On Jun 13, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Please refer to Thisday article I quoted and stop attacking my personality in this discussion.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/anyim-appointed-sgf-as-Jonathan-dissolves-cabinet/92324/
TANoids like you said Buhari had not made any appointment. Have the NSA, Chief of Naval Staff, Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Air Staff been sacked and their offices vacant?
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rad1cal: 10:59am On Jun 13, 2015
BMedia:
Stop being a fool. A month is either 28, 29, 30 or 31 days and they are not exactly complete days. do you know the reason for a leap year?

Silly tanoid.
You are another doltish janjawid. In a year, 30 days averages a month.

Disprove or get slayed.

Bwahahahahahahaha.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 11:03am On Jun 13, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
TANoids like you said Buhari had not made any appointment. Have the NSA, Chief of Naval Staff, Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Air Staff been sacked and their offices vacant?
Stop being stu.pid for once and face the thread

Refer to my previous comment below.

You think everyone on this board will reduce him/her(self) to your level of mediocrity.

Never quote my comment again until you learn to focus on discussions.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
I was just trying to clarify some misconceptions as I am not criticizing President Buhari's actions and inactions for the time being let alone on the issues of composition of cabinet.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Nobody: 11:09am On Jun 13, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Ostrich, it wasn't a new cabinet but rather a rejigging of an already existing cabinet.

When will the Daura President appoint an Ambassador to West Germany.
I love the way you are hitting them hard with constructive facts.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by OrlandoOwoh(m): 11:12am On Jun 13, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Stop being stu.pid for once and face the thread

Refer to my previous comment below.

You think everyone on this board will reduce him/her(self) to your level of mediocrity.

Never quote my comment again until you learn to focus on discussions.
You're beginning to show that you are a hypocrit. Imagine you, Ngwakwe, calling me stupìd.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Babacele: 11:27am On Jun 13, 2015
omenka:
So you know the circumstances surrounding their presidency is are different, so why do you guys keep insisting he announces his cabinet in record time even when the circumstances in this regard favoured Jonathan? Why did it take him 6weeks to "update" his cabinet?? cheesy
Omenka dear please ask them saTanoids again n again why did he take GEJ six weeks to rejig his cabinet? why? why?why? n if they can't answer, they should keep shot 4eva!
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by agabaI23(m): 11:35am On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
An opposition that lacks the capacity to address issues will only be left with lies, deceit and hypocrisy.
Goodluck was already in power. He had a full cabinet as appointed before the election. He had that privilege. Show me where he dissolved his cabinet before then.

You cant compare
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rawani(op): 11:39am On Jun 13, 2015
agabaI23:
Goodluck was already in power. He had a full cabinet as appointed before the election. He had that privilege. Show me where he dissolved his cabinet before then.

You cant compare
Read through Page 1.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/anyim-appointed-sgf-as-jonathan-dissolves-cabinet/92324/
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 13, 2015
chamboy:
Where is Barcanista, firefire
oga why naw? U just spoil my package! Na those two I be dey wait for to comment before I comment... but nothing spoil sha,dem go still carry their head enter...they are good with type now, think later
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Firefire(m): 11:42am On Jun 13, 2015
southniyikaye:
oga why naw? U just spoil my package! Na those two I be dey wait for to comment before I comment... but nothing spoil sha,dem go still carry their head enter...they are good with type now, think later
wetin do you ?
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by 4Play(m): 11:52am On Jun 13, 2015
Is it silly to expect Buhari to nominate a cabinet more than 2 weeks after his inauguration? His supporters seem to think so and suggest that any idea that Buhari should have nominated a cabinet is unreasonable. But here is Buhari a few weeks ago at an event in which he was represented by Dr Fayemi:
3. A cabinet will be announced very quickly, within one week of inauguration; anyone with a whiff of corruption or other tainting will not be on the cabinet; GMB’s body language will reflect zero tolerance for corruption.
http://newsheadline.com.ng/blog/2015/04/15/summary-of-buharis-policies-as-outlined-by-dr-kayode-fayemi-director-of-policies-for-apc-while-representing-gen-buhari-at-lbs-breakfast-meeting/

See same here:http://dailypost.ng/2015/04/15/buhari-to-announce-his-ministers-one-week-after-may-29-inauguration/
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by 4Play(m):
Another point I thought needs to be raised is that this idea that Buhari could not nominate ministers because of delayed handover notes is illogical. There is simply no reason why you have to wait for the GEJ administration's report before you can decide who your ministers or SGF should be. I have heard some bizarre pro-Government propaganda in my lifetime but this one is up there in the echelons of the most inane.

More to the point, is Buhari's perceived slowness down to GEJ or simply his way of working? Here is the New York Times in January 1984:

By CLIFFORD D. MAY
Published: January 19, 1984

LAGOS, Nigeria, Jan. 18— Nigeria's new leader, Maj. Gen. Mohammed Buhari, swore in the members of his Cabinet today, warning them that the ruling Supreme Military Council ''will keep a keen and watchful eye on your performance, your style of life and general public conduct while in office.''

He said the new administration, which came to power after the overthrow of the civilian Government of President Shehu Shagari on Dec. 31, ''will not tolerate fraud, indiscipline, corruption, squandermania, misuse and abuse of public office for self or group aggrandizement and other vices which characterize the civilian administration of the past four years.''

Of the 18 ministers named, only 7 are career military men. The proportion surprised some Western diplomats here but essentially accorded with statements by Mr. Buhari in an interview on Tuesday in which he said ''only a small number'' of military officers would be named to top political posts.

Apparently responding to criticism in the Nigerian press over the pace of decision-making under the new military regime, Mr. Buhari said that ''the appointment of ministers has taken us some time because we had to undertake a deep search for competent Nigerians of proven integrity, a high sense of discipline, public probity and transparent honesty.''
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/19/world/cabinet-in-nigeria-installed-with-a-warning.html
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by agabaI23(m): 1:33pm On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
Read through Page 1.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/anyim-appointed-sgf-as-jonathan-dissolves-cabinet/92324/
GEJ appointed SGF 2 days after inauguration. This is more than 2 weeks, we don't have any substantial appointment. He could only appoint people to defend him in the media
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Rawani(op): 2:00pm On Jun 13, 2015
agabaI23:
GEJ appointed SGF 2 days after inauguration. This is more than 2 weeks, we don't have any substantial appointment. He could only appoint people to defend him in the media
That's comparing apples and oranges. Buhari was not in any acting capacity. The purpose of this thread to expose the hypocrisy of PMB's critics and emphasize the prematurity of expecting a complete cabinet in less than a month.

That said, you have to appreciate the several processes, security checks and consultations that are involved in making appointments, and the allegedly deliberate delay in transmitting critical transition documents also has contributed to the 'delay' in making appointments. It is instructive that Fashola has been adopted to take care of some critical responsibilities as evident in his trips with PMB, so that governance does not suffer on account of constitutional constraints.

That is commitment to true governance.
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jun 13, 2015
Rawani:
That's comparing apples and oranges. Buhari was not in any acting capacity. The purpose of this thread to expose the hypocrisy of PMB's critics and emphasize the prematurity of expecting a complete cabinet in less than a month.

That said, you have to appreciate the several processes, security checks and consultations that are involved in making appointments, and the allegedly deliberate delay in transmitting critical transition documents also has contributed to the 'delay' in making appointments. It is instructive that Fashola has been adopted to take care of some critical responsibilities as evident in his trips with PMB, so that governance does not suffer on account of constitutional constraints.

That is commitment to true governance.
What you did was to expose your own hypocrisy.. Yar'adua was also not in any acting capacity but he appointed his SGF, CoS and NSA within 2 days of ingratiation! Where and who are Buhari's COS, NSA or SGF?

http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=9996

We have a situation now where private individuals like Col. Ali, Fashola and Dambazau attending classified meetings like security council. It can only happen in Nigeria and you are criticized, called names just pointing out the obvious.

If Fashola has been "adopted" why not make it public so he can swear his oath.. as it is now, he and the two guys are security risk.

PS: We shouldn't be comparing Buhari to GEJ because we are told that GEJ was everything a leader shouldn't be. So for you to compare both means that nothing has really changed but the same old order.

PPS: Buhari promise to make public his ministers within 1 week of inauguration
Re: Jonathan Announced Cabinet 6 Weeks After Inauguration (Throwback) by Obipat(m): 5:02pm On Jun 13, 2015
Sunnybobo3:
Why should he constitute a new cabinet when he was happy with the one he had?
. Why are u fooli.ng urself around like this? How old re u? What business do u have with the ministers? Ur username tells u must be. Village man
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