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Bigs up to this prolific icon,i concur to all he said. Such babaric and dehumanizing acts should be abolished and the evil penetrators should face stiff penalties.


That would serve as an eye opener to those who may want to thread such paths.

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What can we say then when all our children will b yerima by our senators but bravo 2 them

I am sure the pedophile islamists are happy with this bill...

May thunder strike that woman that supports the bill to rape an 11 year old girl in tge name of marriage. May she be rapped every single day in shekau's camp by a million "husbands"until she repents of the evil bill she so passionately stood behind. Stupid woman. She is s disgrace to what motherhood stands for.

Yerima must be question! That man is pedophile! Somebody should indict him for upholding a bill that prey on children. Jeez! Can you believe that?! Can't somebody do something? Where are the judges and right-head senators?

The person dat sponsored dat bill is.a digrace to human race. This country is headin to destruction.

hansad:
Yes, Yerima ran away with a bill that makes a little girl an adult once the girl is married - even at age six.


Yes, Yerima brough sharia criminal laws to Nigeria and it spread like wild fire to 12 northern states of Nigeria; after which Boko Haram emerged and has maintained it is fighting for a country governed with sharia criminal laws.

Despite all these, on any presidential election day, the Soyinkas would prefer a Sani Yerima to an Ebele Clark from SS or a Chukwuma Okoro from SE for president of Nigeria - the 2011 march for Jonathan was circumstantial.

It was circumstantial because the Soyinkas always feel what is wrong is wrong irrespective of tribal affiliations. They would have given the same support to anybody from any region if the feel it's a justified stance.

Fast forward to 2015, the Soyinkas had to scale up the two realistic options - one was the Ebele Clark, swimming in pool of corruption, plunged the country back into deep debt (without anything to show for accruing such debts) and couldn't even fulfill 10% of what he promised despite being the luckiest ruler in history in terms of revenue, while the other choice, a Sani Yerima who has been there before and adjudged by those who experienced his reign as a man with direction.

Should the Soyinkas have voted for continuance of mediocrity because they want to be considered as enemies to the Ebele Clark or Chukwuma Okoro?

It was never about tribal affiliation but for nationalism.

Cc: knowledgeable

The Prophet Mohammed salawa aid wasala, Married the Prophet Aisha at age 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9. Are you now saying, the holy Mohammed salawa aid wasala is a consumer of paedophilia?

I Hope PMB 'doesn't do d Needful' ie the wish of an Unbelievably,
Distracted or insensitive Senate @ the 'gay end' of Presidon Jonah'
Inept RuLe over Nigeria.

And let the Bill remain 'unAssented'to
To Remain Fallow, ForEver & Ever Ase!

As ALWAYs Max' ReesPect!
is due Prof WoLe Soyinka.
ChiefPriest1.I Hail o Bros'

Its ur boy LLKJ of AFrica.

ApcSucks:
Yerima feeding from feeble cuntus since who knows? Stupid man na d kind of senators we have

As in....ehn. Nigerians still have a long way to go oo. And it seriously had to do with a real substantial education that will unhide those hiding behind religion. some people just see cuntus like food you wack with both hands and even feet self.....

i remember telling a friend that - are these bills not some bones swallowed in a moment of rush . thank you prof for digging out an important matter.

this is a disgraceful bill

HUH!

When I first saw it online I tot It was jst a rumor bt nw I know its not..
The rate @which our so-called promiscuous governors are going with their drive for sexual pleasure is bcoming superfluous
Only God can save us oh...they passed d bill for their selfish purpose

Eragablessen:
Grand-father... Grounded reasoning.....

more strength to our professor to talk more on this issue.

thank you sir.... once again you have spoken well

I am not sure what Wole Soyinka is saying here. I don't think he understands the legal implications of what was proposed unless he's talking of something different. Re the brouhaha over Yerima, I made the following post at the time:

I may have missed something here: S29(4) of the 1999 Nigerian constitution provides that for the purpose of renouncing citizenship, a woman who's married may be deemed to be of full age. This provision has been in force since the enactment of the '99 constitution and was not recently introduced.

What Yerima opposed was a proposal to delete the provision. The deletion attempt having failed, we are restored to the status quo. Nothing has changed so why the hysteria? I may be mistaken but Nigeria has marriage laws that prescribe the age for which one can get married. One has to be legally married, including meeting the statutory marital age, before S29(4) can be invoked. If there is no statutory marital age, the National Assembly can still pass one by a simple majority,the Yerima rejectionists are obviously outnumbered on this issue. Am I missing something here?

https://www.nairaland.com/1365250/senators-voted-legalise-underage-marriage/10#16907448

The more recent bill proposed by Ms Anyanwu increased the punishment applicable to having sex with a girl below 11. It didn't say that one can have sex with a girl above that age. There's a lot of falsehoods that seem to fly around in Nigeria and which poisons debate. Sadly, even the highly educated and accomplished are not immune to the sensationalism.

chynergy1: WHAT AGAIN IS SEXUAL CRIME IF THE AGE OF
CONSENT IS NOW 11 YEARS OLD?

U spoke my mind... I can't help but wonder how we got our selves into this mess

Crieff:
The people that voted him in, what do they know. What with all the hellishly hot sun that has dried out all their brain juices and leader them with dry heads.

What does an aboki know beyond rankadede...this is to the teeming dead-heads masses the North is filled with not the nanoscule that makes up the less than 1% of wholesome folks.

Hmm but what can we say or do, we can't ignore their opinions, they will say they have a say too cos we are all nigerian. Just like we have one of them as our president now. But this bill is a no no

sweetgala:
The deal that brought Saraki into power was partly negotiated/championed by Yerima. The immediate chance Nigeria have of stopping this bill rests in the pen wielded by President Buhari

Spot on. Saraki's emergence might be hinged on coopetating with Yerima for this bill to see the light of the day.

simdam500:
Hmm but what can we say or do, we can't ignore their opinions, they will say they have a say too cos we are all nigerian. Just like we have one of them as our president now. But this bill is a no no

Definitely a no no.

Chiefpriest1:
''Neither culture nor religion is at issue here. It is, quite starkly, an issue of science, the science of the human body''

This is exactly the point. These criminals hide under culture and religion to perpetuate their mindless evil.

It is totally unthinkable that at this time and age, grown up human beings would pass such a bill.

These mofos are not better than boko haram. Boko haram kills children with guns and arrows, the advocates of this bill are simply killing them physiologically and emotionally.

This is common sense: you cannot marry or attempt to penetrate a baby whose body is not simply ready yet.

But then, they tell us it about religion and the freedom to practice. No! For the sake of the kids, we must reject this bill. Thank you prof for standing up for the weak once again

Despite ur good point, you forget that this same science ur talking about is not practised in Nigeria! We are always content with importing everything. The whole education thing is imported. And all of us who have devoted ourselves to it just manage to learn barely enough to do anything independent with our education. We are all victims including even the prof! So who caused all this? Our fore-bearers who didn't do enough science or white evil? I seriously need an answer o.

4Play:
I am not sure what Wole Soyinka is saying here. I don't think he understands the legal implications of what was proposed unless he's talking of something different. Re the brouhaha over Yerima, I made the following post at the time:



https://www.nairaland.com/1365250/senators-voted-legalise-underage-marriage/10#16907448

The more recent bill proposed by Ms Anyanwu increased the punishment applicable to having sex with a girl below 11. It didn't say that one can have sex with a girl above that age. There's a lot of falsehoods that seem to fly around in Nigeria and which poisons debate. Sadly, even the highly educated and accomplished are not immune to the sensationalism.

I just can't understand which is the right or wrong argument. One version says it's true, the other says it's not.

Curvinus:
Rather than seeking to claim moral high ground and throwing tantrums from a safe distance, I suggest Soyinka and all others dismayed by that law go to court to seek interpretation of the act as to whether it is consistent with the letters of the law.

I say this because public odium alone has never been koown to be very effective in causing any change in this country.

Don't mind Soyinka. He is a serial polygamist, himself. Last time I checked, he was on his 4th wife, Folake. At University of Ife, he once dated one of his students, who was just a little over 18 years old.

4Play:
The more recent bill proposed by Ms Anyanwu increased the punishment applicable to having sex with a girl below 11. It didn't say that one can have sex with a girl above that age. There's a lot of falsehoods that seem to fly around in Nigeria and which poisons debate. Sadly, even the highly educated and accomplished are not immune to the sensationalism.

Senator Chris Anyanwu has replied Prof. Wole Soyinka. Her bill does not contain any reference to the age of 11 years, and neither does it carry any of the statements that Soyinka is so upset about.

Please see the details below:

ricsman:
"....I have read your open letter published on PM News and re-published on Bella Naija, premiumtimesng.com and a number of online papers.

No one who read that letter could miss the fury embedded in your words. I know where that fury comes from: moral fiber, good conscience,
and love of people. I want to assure you that it was the very same sentiments that drove me to come up with that bill and the same sentiments, that led Senators and members to pass it. As always, your aim was to speak as the voice of reason in our increasingly confused society. I know you meant well. I know you acted out of your deep compassion for Nigerians and fatherly love for the children.

But as I read your open letter, my heart sank because this time, my dear Baba, my dear icon, you are wrong; very wrong. You have been misled by the misinformation circulated by someone who could not read or comprehend a legal draft; someone who did not have the patience to read through a proposal, see what was recommended and what was finally accepted.

You were misled by someone who deliberately distorted the content of one of the most profound bills ever passed by the Nigerian
legislature, scandalised the proponent and the institution for reasons that you and I may not know.

No where in the SEXUAL OFFENCES BILL That I proposed; no where in the bill passed by Senate was it stated that you can defile an 11 years old. No where in the bill passed by the Senate was the age “11 years” mentioned.

Here is what was passed in relation to your area of pre-occupation which is defilement clause 6
(2): “A person who commits an offence of defilement shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life”.

You claimed that the bill re-defined “female adulthood as marital status”. Where in the bill proposed by me and where in the bill passed by Senate did you see adulthood linked to marital status? The extreme distortion of the spirit, intent and even content of this bill leads me to think that you may be talking about an all- together different piece of legislation. For emphasis, let me state that the bill makes no such linkages as you erroneously stated. I think it may be fear of Senator Yerima that is at play here.

For your information, Senator Yerima and all Senators who participated in the debate, the two times the bill came up on the floor, supported it as a vehicle for instituting a stringent law barring all ranges of sexual offences in Nigeria.

They did this because they also have children, wives, daughters, even mothers and cannot afford to leave them in the current state where abuses are rewarded with a slap on the wrist of the perpetrators because our laws are outdated, without strong in-built deterrence and mechanisms for monitoring and control. This is just another case of people demonising what is clearly in the public good because of deeply-set negative predispositions towards individuals in an institution.

By your strong advocacy against the bill, you have unwittingly stamped your feet in favour of maintaining the status quo. Where we are now..the statusquo.. is a world in which a six year old child is raped to death and then set ablaze. Where we are now, is a place where a father rapes his three year old boys repeatedly and the mother weeps at night and cannot speak out, out of shame and fear of her life.
Where we are now, is a place where young Cynthia in her struggles for self-employment ran into a gang who drugged her, raped and murdered her. Where we are now is a place where foreigners come for tourism and turn children into their objects of tourism.

With all due respect Sir, I want to express my deep disappointment with your hastiness in flowing with the mob on this matter. I blame your press officers. I think they should have advised caution. You have known me since the 1990s. There is no way you could have sent fellers and I would not jump onto the next flight to answer you. In fact, a mere telephone call could have dispensed with the matter. If you had even asked someone to get you a copy of the Votes and Proceedings of Senate for that day which published the exact words in the legislation passed, you would have spared yourself the time and emotions spent over what is clear mischief circulated through the web. The people who started it all are hate-mongers. The merely took advantage of the negative public feelings they have built up against the legislature. You have no business with such people, Sir.

I am sure in the most inner recesses of your mind you know I cannot in anyway be associated with any anti-people law. Nothing in my personal history, professional antecedents or even the hard work I did to push through pro-people legislations in Senate, could lead anyone to think of me as capable of working against children, the very people I fought for over the course of my eight years in the Senate.

The Sexual Offences bill is only one of many I did. I also proposed the Occupational Safety and Health bill protecting workers in virtually all
sectors of the economy from hazards at work. The only group excluded are those in the oil and gas sectors who have been extensively provided for in the PIB.

There was no “accident” as you call it involved in this legislation. Neither was there an error in judgement. The bill has been fabricated to provide a strong deterrence against abuses. When implemented, it will mitigate the private sufferings of parents; reduce their fear of what
happens in their absence to their children at school, in the play grounds, in the neighborhoods, even in religious spaces. Nigeria today is not a safe place for children; not a safe place for girls; not a safe place for small boys; and it is not a safe place either for old women.
This legislation it proposes consigns punishments for abhorrent crimes such as we are seeing in our country today. It even covers crimes yet to arrive our shores.

Under this bill, pedophiles will be put away for life not made rock stars as we do today. This bill will bring sanity to our society. It will make
Nigeria a better place for all. I suspect that some of those fighting against the bill are fixating on the short title. Its long title shows what it is: a sexual offences prevention bill; a tough deterrence to crime.

I want you to take time and read the final copy of the bill. You will be proud. You will realise that good things can come from Nigeria and Nigerians. It is not only legislations initiated by outsiders and handed to us locals to push for their passage that should be deemed as good for us. By passing that bill, National Assembly has kept faith with the people of Nigeria. It has provided the cover of protection under which Nigerian children can live normal lives of fulfillment without fear.

By your robust advocacy against the bill preventing sexual abuses of children, you foreclose the future of children in this society. But if I read you correctly, I have no doubt that you will reverse yourself on this once you have the correct information. This is why I have written you this letter.

You have made your first “imposition” on Mr. President based on your understanding of the false information circulated by the very offenders you despise. I plead with you as a man who has been found to be a great man of honour and bestowed with the highest literary honour in the world to reconsider.

Let me on behalf of the innumerable victims of abuse in Nigeria; let me invoke the spirit of Cynthia who fell victim in Lagos; and let me plead on behalf of the many wives and husbands deliberately infected with HIV by their partners whose suffering impelled this bill, that you
reverse your instruction to Mr. President. The President of the Federal Republic looks to old sages like you for positive direction. That
was what you intended to give him.

But now that you know the truth, for the sake of your long established reputation and known love for Nigeria, turn it around and urge Mr. President to sign this bill that will protect our people, restore sanity to society and make Nigeria a better place for all.

I remain your loyal admirer and sister.

Chris Anyanwu was a Senator of the Federal
Republic of Nigeria between 2007 and 2015. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/you-were-misled-chris-anyanwu-replies-soyinka/

Most Nigerians are sentimentally drunk. I had suggested the Nigerian National Assembly passes a bill that will peg the marriage age of women in Nigeria at 40.

DerideGull:
Most Nigerians are sentimentally drunk. I had suggested the Nigerian National Assembly passes a bill that will peg the marriage age of women in Nigeria at 40.

Gull, you're welcome.

its like sentencing ur girls to death. i ve three girls God help me i go castrate any idiot wey come near them. rubbish

can they give their own girls out for marriage at that age?