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Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 8:38am On Jun 25, 2015
Different perspectives and opinion on this matter has been raised, but I still ask, is there any correlation between gender and chores? I mean like specific chores were meant for specific gender?

I received a call 2 hours ago and it was a friends' wife that called. She complained how she has been beaten severally for not cooking as early as possible for the husband. I rushed to the house as it was just 3 blocks away from mine, knocked and the husband who is a very close friend from Nigeria refused to let me in. I had to threaten him that if he doesn't allow me in I'll call 911, he finally opened the door. The scene was nothing to write home about. I called him out and asked what actually went wrong, he complained that the wife is lazy and slow, in his words "she no fit wash plate quick quick, she no fit cook fast fast make man chop, abi she dey expect me make I wash plate or cook?". I was silent for 2 minutes as I gazed at him with annoyance and asked him, if you wash the plate or assist with the cooking will your manhood stop functioning? We talked and settled it amicably. I've never been pissed at a mans useless egoistical attitude like I did today. angry

I remember vividly last year, I was in a bus going home after work angry at my unpaid salary. The guy at the backseat was screaming at his phone (I later found out he wasn't shouting, its just the way he talks, you know those mungo park that would receive call screaming like those pot belly thick Igbo men harassing their debtors on phone or like baba bisi calling his wife to make sure there is "gbegiri" soup). As much as I didn't care about his conversation, his loud voice didn't help. He was criticizing his girlfriend/ wife for not cooking. I wasn't going involve myself in another couples issue, but the fact that the guy kept repeating the statement "it is your job" as a woman to cook got me perplexed, are there domestic job meant for specific genders? Like she cooks and I mop the room? She washes the dishes and I watch TV?

Are domestic chores gender sensitive? I am not championing feminism, but we can make it happen #choreequality

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by MEGGATRON(m): 8:39am On Jun 25, 2015
intriguing one!

Dude in some culture women do the dishes and household chores in nigeria I know about. And you stated clearly the husband is a nigerian so that settled it.

I'm afraid I've the same mentality with the husband, most nigerian husbands would.

LOVE is one powerful feeling, I can help my wife with some chores but that's not my responsibility and can only happen once in a while.
Because women do take advantage of men being nice and generous in most cases.

OP if I may ask if she isn't doing the dishes and chores what will she be doing? Unless you employ househelp which is not adviceable
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Cutehector(m): 8:41am On Jun 25, 2015
If u eat finish, u wash ur plate. Dnt leav it for anyone

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by mecussey(m): 8:48am On Jun 25, 2015
In Africa, it is the job of the woman to cook unless sick or helpless. if you try assist her all the time, you have automatically become a kitchen assistant and any day you refused to assist, na wahala be that. Op abeg, no bring western package here, make we dey manage watin Telemundo and ETV don cause already.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 8:50am On Jun 25, 2015
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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 8:52am On Jun 25, 2015
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 8:57am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house. But there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

Read the thread again and type a response that suits.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Pineapp: 9:04am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

grin
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Enegod(m): 9:08am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

^^^^^

She is a wife material, 90yards cool

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by ronald4lif(m): 9:16am On Jun 25, 2015
This stem from the deep rooted culture that has been in place for ages that a man is meant to be a bread winner while the woman stay at the confines of the home performing house chores. But all that seem to be changing as women are ambitious and career driven.

Although most women still prefer to observe household chores as their traditional role, it's tasking combining house chores after a vigorous day at work. A man should assist in ensuring the chores and household is conducive. A man can cook, clean and wash their plates too. It doesn't make him any less of a man.

I've realised some women actually don't mind if their men don't share in household work, they are comfortable performing them but needs some form of appreciation from their man for keeping the home tidy. Let's admit it, we all need to feel appreciated after a job well done. But some men are too bossy to do this and think it's a woman's job after all. Appreciation and encouragement goes a long way to making a woman moan less about chores.

Your friend is fortunate, he's got a good wife. Most women wouldn't condone domestic abuse and would have rang the police. He'd have been in a hot soup.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 9:18am On Jun 25, 2015
ronald4lif:
This stem from the deep rooted culture that has been in place for ages that a man is meant to be a bread winner while the woman stay at the confines of the home performing house chores. But all that seem to be changing as women are ambitious and career driven.

Although most women still prefer to observe household chores as their traditional role, it's tasking combining house chores after a vigorous day at work. A man should assist in ensuring the chores and household is conducive. A man can cook, clean and wash their plates too. It doesn't make him any less of a man.

I've realised some women actually don't mind if their men don't share in household work, they are comfortable performing them but needs some form of appreciation from their man for keeping the home tidy. Let's admit it, we all need to feel appreciated after a job well done. But some men are too bossy to do this and think it's a woman's job after all. Appreciation and encouragement goes a long way to making a woman moan less about chores.

Your friend is fortunate, he's got a good wife. Most women wouldn't condone domestic abuse and would have ring the police. He'd have been in a hot soup.
Exactly, this is US and not Nigeria. Thanks for the Insight
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Beckybeky(f): 9:18am On Jun 25, 2015
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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by ronald4lif(m): 9:24am On Jun 25, 2015
slimmy05:
Exactly, this is US and not Nigeria. Thanks for the Insight

Yes, sure I knew it's in the States and that's why I said he's lucky. Domestic abuse is a serious crime in the West and it's an imprisonable offence.

Who calls the Nigerian police for domestic violence and expect a meaningful outcome?. They'd just come and advice the woman to respect the husband and obey his orders lol.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by idihcoben: 9:40am On Jun 25, 2015
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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by ireneidiva(f): 10:59am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

In addition to all this, there some chores that are specific for a certain gender and it would seem awkward if the opposite gender performs.
For example, it would be awkward for a woman to wake up in the morning and start washing the cars, something like this is restricted to a male.

Nah, this is just your opinion. What part of nigeria did you grow up in? Where I grew up, men wash their own clothes when their wives are around. You want her to die of stress? I wash cars too even when guys are around. There is no laid down rule about these. A couple should help each other out please after all, its their house. I can't stand guys that are not domestic, it irritates me.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:02am On Jun 25, 2015
Whatever rocks anyone boat

There's nothing like it's an African culture, in my opinion.
It's high time we started knowing that ALL marriage can't be the same....
Wife is meant to be a companion not a slave.
If you need someone to help you with your chores, get a house maid/servant.
A man and woman comes together, become one, complement and keep each other company; that's why bible preaches one man and woman.
In a scenario, where both man and woman are working to make end meet, I don't see a reason why wife should be doing the house chores also.
As for me, I can help my wife to do it....

Even though I grew up where mum does all things due to circumstances, It does not mean I should follow the footstep and subject my future wife to it, because I want to adhere societal standard.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:02am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.
Why shouldn't it change?? The English language has never been a part of our culture but we adopted it. Christianity has never been a part of our culture but we adopted it. Majority of the clothes that are in your closet has never been a part of our culture but we adopted it. Why exactly did we adopt *"formal" education, and industrialization from the western world if we are so keen on remaining true to our ways and norms??
Why did we back down to Mary Slessor and stopped killing twins; why did we stop female genital mutilation; and why exactly do we advocate the abolishment of human sacrifice??
I don't want to school you, so I'm going to ask you questions and see where your logic lands you. What is culture? Is it man-made?? At what point do you think we should stop practicing a particular tradition?? As society develops and morphs into something different, should our old cultures adapt to our new ways of living or should we hold on to things that are not realistic and effective in today's world??

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool
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Ignorance. Our women might not have been on equal footings as the men but they were better than the western women. The westerns changed the aspect of their culture that limits people of a particular gender to certain roles and even till now, it's still a work in progress. The thing is, they realized that their culture was oppressive and decided to do something about it.

How do choose what culture to copy from the westerners and what culture not to?? How is limiting individualism a culture to hold on to?? Why should we strive to hold on to a particular aspect of a culture that limits us and tells us we can't do certain things because of our gender. Why do you think a progressive state of mind is a culture that only belongs to the westerners??

In addition to all this, there some chores that are specific for a certain gender and it would seem awkward if the opposite gender performs.
For example, it would be awkward for a woman to wake up in the morning and start washing the cars, something like this is restricted to a male.
Is this suppose to be a different point?? Is this an additional argument to back up your claims or are you just piggy-backing off your culture point?? If this is a different argument, then you would be making absolutely NO sense.
We all know that there is no biological or scientific proof that certain chores are specific to a certain gender. So, what do you mean by "..chores that are specific to certain gender..."??

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by funlord(m): 11:26am On Jun 25, 2015
grin
A real nigga like me should know how 2 cook, clean and do laundry! It is called home training, and my mom and dad did not raise any fools! My dad cooks 4 me and my mom when I'm on xmas break with my family till date and my mum sits down in a corner with her stout waiting 4 the chow 2 be ready! These are things you can even teach your kids in the future and sometimes your wife may be too tired or too sick 2 cook, should she starve? All this culture crap is bullshite as far as I'm concerned, being a decent, caring and hardworking person has nothing 2 do with culture, it should be normal for a human being! A wife and husband should both share and do chores FAIRLY! The 1 wey I no understand be say when I cook 4 her it would be a "romantic dinner" but when na time 2 cook 4 me e go turn 2 "chores and suffering?" Wahala go dey dat time abeg!

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:35am On Jun 25, 2015
misssclassy:
First of all you should bear in mind that we live in a contemporary African society. And as such we have cultures and traditions that we live by.
As much as I would opine that a woman shouldn't be the one doing all the house chores and all that , you can't deny the fact that there are some certain things that is expected to be performed by an African wife.

You don't expect the man to be the one cooking dinner when the wife is around or the husband should be the one washing his own clothes when he has a wife.
These things are primary roles a wife is supposed to tend to.

However, this doesn't mean the husband should try to lend a hand in the chores around the house.
And some men could be so lazy and inconsiderate most times and just sit and watch as their wife does everything.

But like I stated earlier, there are primary obligations a wife should fulfill. It's has and has always been our culture and it shouldn't change.

The importation of western material especially through media is one of the major reasons why women these days are beginning to have a change of mindset, which isn't supposed to be so.
The westerners have their culture and we have ours. We shouldn't throw away ours just because we feel their's is cool.

Aahhhhh?? Thought you said you were a feminist? ? undecided undecided shocked shocked shocked... No be you dey yarn for the other thread few days ago about equality et al? undecided.. Now I believe some of these feminists on nl are jokers and don't do what they preach..

Sorry, but this is what I feel...

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:39am On Jun 25, 2015
MarvellousGod:
Aahhhhh?? Thought you said you were a feminist? ? undecided undecided shocked shocked shocked... No be you dey yarn for the other thread few days ago about equality et al? undecided.. Now I believe some of these feminists on nl are jokers and don't do what they preach..

Sorry, but this is what I feel...
I think she has a personality disorder. grin grin grin grin grin

Preach one on a thread, Preach differently on another.....

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:49am On Jun 25, 2015
Chores ain't gender specific, it's just our mentality. .. To each family its own shaaa....

However, in a situation where the man works and the woman doesn't, I expect the lady to take care of the chores.. But in a situation where both of them work, chores should be shared, not necessarily apportioning each chore to either husband or wife but by them using their common sense and knowing what should be done..
A husband who loves his wife can't see her doing alot of chores and won't help out. .

Also, sharing chores is romantic to me.. imagine slicing veggies or washing together while chatting away kiss kiss kiss
Don't know why some men are so full of ego these days, displaying it at home..totally unnecessary. .

Eehh, better still a help could be hired so that everyone can rest...

Anyway, as i said before, to each family its own.. what matters is that at the end of the day, both husband and wife are happy...

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 11:52am On Jun 25, 2015
FrancisTony:

I think she has a personality disorder. grin grin grin grin grin

Preach one on a thread, Preach differently on another.....
As in eehhh grin grin

Washing husband's clothes primary responsibility ko, wonder who shared the chores. .. grin undecided
If she works 8-6pm, then has some children.. she no go talk primary responsibility. . sad

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Zi: 12:30pm On Jun 25, 2015
This thread go long shaa

#reading
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by freecocoa(f): 12:37pm On Jun 25, 2015
There is nothing like gender specific chores, anyone can do anything.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by freecocoa(f): 12:42pm On Jun 25, 2015
MarvellousGod:
Aahhhhh?? Thought you said you were a feminist? ? undecided undecided shocked shocked shocked... No be you dey yarn for the other thread few days ago about equality et al? undecided.. Now I believe some of these feminists on nl are jokers and don't do what they preach..

Sorry, but this is what I feel...
And someone was talking crap about me wanting to be superior or whatever, when I say that not all who claim 'feminist' actually know what they are on about, una don see am na.
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by bukatyne(f): 12:43pm On Jun 25, 2015
slimmy05:
Different perspectives and opinion on this matter has been raised, but I still ask, is there any correlation between gender and chores? I mean like specific chores were meant for specific gender?

I received a call 2 hours ago and it was a friends' wife that called. She complained how she has been beaten severally for not cooking as early as possible for the husband. I rushed to the house as it was just 3 blocks away from mine, knocked and the husband who is a very close friend from Nigeria refused to let me in. I had to threaten him that if he doesn't allow me in I'll call 911, he finally opened the door. The scene was nothing to write home about. I called him out and asked what actually went wrong, he complained that the wife is lazy and slow, in his words "she no fit wash plate quick quick, she no fit cook fast fast make man chop, abi she dey expect me make I wash plate or cook?". I was silent for 2 minutes as I gazed at him with annoyance and asked him, if you wash the plate or assist with the cooking will your manhood stop functioning? We talked and settled it amicably. I've never been pissed at a mans useless egoistical attitude like I did today. angry

I remember vividly last year, I was in a bus going home after work angry at my unpaid salary. The guy at the backseat was screaming at his phone (I later found out he wasn't shouting, its just the way he talks, you know those mungo park that would receive call screaming like those pot belly thick Igbo men harassing their debtors on phone or like baba bisi calling his wife to make sure there is "gbegiri" soup). As much as I didn't care about his conversation, his loud voice didn't help. He was criticizing his girlfriend/ wife for not cooking. I wasn't going involve myself in another couples issue, but the fact that the guy kept repeating the statement "it is your job" as a woman to cook got me perplexed, are there domestic job meant for specific genders? Like she cooks and I mop the room? She washes the dishes and I watch TV?

Are domestic chores gender sensitive? I am not championing feminism, but we can make it happen #choreequality

LOL! @ not championing feminism but chore equality grin

That aside,

Different things work for different homes.

In some homes, the husband provide 100% while the wife does 100% chores

In some homes, the husband has 'male' chores he does like emptying the bin, lifting things etc. while wifey does all other things and the finance is shared in that order.

In some, there is no chore sharing and no finance sharing either. All hands are on deck.

This might be late however, the wife needs to know what her husband's school of thought as regards chores.

Also 'chore equality' cannot be achieved however, all hands can be on deck at all times. At a point, the husband might be the one holding the fort; sometimes, the wife does.

I remember one time I was ill, my hubby did everything; another time he was running a course, I did everything. There is no I have done 50% and leave the rest till a, b, c recovers/finishes his course neither was there 'washing' is his chore and I will leave it for him or 'sweeping' is for her and I will wait tongue

Anyways, cooking is seen primarily as a 'woman's' thing (at least the bulk cooking).

Let them communicate and move forward from there.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Stillfire: 1:26pm On Jun 25, 2015
Sir, you are a 'feminist' for thinking like this. cheesy

On a serious note, you cannot eat your cake and have it.
Patriarchy has defined the roles - i.e. the woman takes care of the house chores, cooking, baby matters.
Why get angry at a man who knows his right in a patriarchal system?
I'm sorry but it is his right to demand such from his woman.

Feminism curbs the guttural excesses of patriarchy as evident in your illustrations, but since you are not a feminist, I don't know why you are complaining.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0_ylg0z35s
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Jamean(f): 1:39pm On Jun 25, 2015
MarvellousGod:
As in eehhh grin grin

Washing husband's clothes primary responsibility ko, wonder who shared the chores. .. grin undecided
If she works 8-6pm, then has some children.. she no go talk primary responsibility. . sad

Lmao...primary, secondary and university responsibilities. cheesy

In this time and age

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Jamean(f): 1:40pm On Jun 25, 2015
mecussey:
In Africa, it is the job of the woman to cook unless sick or helpless. if you try assist her all the time, you have automatically become a kitchen assistant and any day you refused to assist, na wahala be that. Op abeg, no bring western package here, make we dey manage watin Telemundo and ETV don cause already.

Like seriously undecided
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Stillfire: 1:51pm On Jun 25, 2015
Also in a Patriarchal system, men provide. Most women turn into wild cantankerous beasts like the men you highlighted in your illustration when their men don't fulfill their own end of the bargain of providing. So I think the whole arrangement works for you non-feminists sha.

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Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jun 25, 2015
freecocoa:
And someone was talking crap about me wanting to be superior or whatever, when I say that not all who claim 'feminist' actually know what they are on about, una don see am na.
Lol.. it's so obvious now..
Re: Gender And Chores- Issues In Relationships And Marriages by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jun 25, 2015
Jamean:


Lmao...primary, secondary and university responsibilities. cheesy

In this time and age
grin grin grin grin

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