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Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Gboskee(m): 11:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
ascaris:
Where is Lier Mohammed?
retard when will you get sense
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Lanceslot(m): 11:48pm On Jun 25, 2015
soe:
There are better ways to handle this matter than APC is doing. I mean, it is 100% clear to even a daft person! that Saraki, Dogara and their team are not APC members...push them out the way you are doing and PDP will become the Majority In the National Assembly.

That's why I miss OBJ.

OBJ will sit down quietly and write down the names of his silent enemies...no noise o.
OBJ will not disagree with him in public o.
OBJ will not even interfere in their matter o.
OBj will calculate all their moves from start to finish line.
OBJ will even give them food and juice to be comfortable...if you know what I mean...

Just one last card, land him a juicy mango...send all sort of corruption his way....Kai....nab him like hell...but cry with him.....

I swear, you will win both his friends and enemies...leaving him useless at the end...

APC needs a strategist...not this ones I am seeing here...who is Saraki...we all know what can finish Saraki...give it to him na
You think Saraki is a kid who just joined politics yesterday? You are on a long thing bro.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by LegatusGlaber(m): 11:49pm On Jun 25, 2015
Hope15:
Again, APC messed the process up.
I was thinking Saraki and Dogara's understanding would have been bought before sending that letter. For whatever it was worth, they needed the buy-in. "Tossing" that letter at those 2 guys surely reeks of arrogance regardless of their demeanour to the party.
Naivete displayed again.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by mindsetshift: 11:50pm On Jun 25, 2015
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Ezenwammadu:
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Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by meforyou1(m): 12:17am On Jun 26, 2015
Nonsense. Is it APC that chooses national assembly leaders or members of national assembly themselves? Is the Senate or rep made up of only APC members? This APC people are both foolish and Stuupid. They should learn from UK, the mother of parliamentary democracy or US the parents of Presidential system of government. After 16 years of democracy, this rubbish APC people, who decided to hold a parley in ICC on parliament inauguration day, now think they can just send names and all positions in national assembly will be filled. Stuupid clownish ediots.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by gbengus17: 12:31am On Jun 26, 2015
AKUKU JO YE, OSAN JU ENUMI KO KALU--YORUBA PROVERB--(IT IS BETTER NOT TO WEAR THE CROWN WHEN YOUR MOUTH/ORDER IS NOT ABIDE WITH)----WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT I THINK THE APC LEADERSHIP SHOULD QUIT. WAIT AND SEE, BUHARI MINISTERIAL LIST WILL FURTHER RELEGATE THE PRESENT APC LEADERS LIKE TOILET ROLLS. THEN MOST OF THEM WILL START JOINING THE OPPOSITIONS.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Eboh4z: 1:02am On Jun 26, 2015
And lai mohammed will blast Jonathan for this
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by HOTWATER(m): 1:08am On Jun 26, 2015
doctokwus:
I predicted that Saraki,lesser so Dogara, would not know peace till they vacate their offices and its coming to pass.
Saraki is losing supporters by d day because even those who supported him initially are now coming to see that his is one man's unbridled ambition for power.
Saraki and Dogara can continue postponing the day of reckoning but it shall surely come.
There is no place in the world a man wins a mandate on a party's platform, based on the party's ideals and mantra and then goes against the party, running as an independent for an office that belongs to his party by its sheer majority.
APC would not stand it,those of us that voted for change won't stand it.
He was a progressive when he betrayed PDP right ?
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by gsalvatore: 1:17am On Jun 26, 2015
Enoquin:
When trying to resolve crisis; one has to look at it from the different POVs and also use less emotions/sentiments.

Saraki's POV: He knows he wasn't his party's choice. He also knows that the positions for principal officers are not to be trifled with, why put people who you'll constantly have to watch your back for? So, it's best his own men take these positions than strong party loyalists not loyal to him, that way he can sleep better at night. Saraki has backed himself to the wall, he is either going to hack his way through or fight till he is hacked down. I understand his POV but he showed his hand too early.


APC's POV: They are aggrieved at the way Saraki tricked and used dirty moves to gain power. They are not willing to admit they made a mistake and instead of calming down are huffing and puffing. I understand them too because not huffing and puffing will open a portal to potential 'stubborn' party members. Who wants to have to deal with strong-headed party members when there is so much to be achieved with the newly acquired party? Other party members are keenly watching; an inaction could lead to more members decamping to Saraki's camp.

Buhari's POV: He is keenly aware of his 'dictator' title and wishes to thread softly. He also wants to adhere to a true separate arms of government but the truth is theory can never equate practice. I do not want him to dabble heavily but use your lobbyists effectively.

What to do? There are too many leaders in APC because of 3 + 1/2 major political parties that merged plus different strong individuals who didn't come under a party each are lords in their own right. The first mistake was in not getting each regional lords to coerce or persuade the individual lords to achieve a common ground. The second was not having a plan B at the first sign of trouble and instead still forging on relentlessly on the initial plan A.
The nation cannot grind to a halt because of an internal party fracas. The party must consider changing its course.
Should the deviants be punished? Yes, same way I wanted Amaechi and Tambubawal punished then but the party must change its aggressive course and seek another means to punish and still maintain its members.
I propose that an advert be put forth on its unity still being intact and that Nigeria is uppermost in its mind regardless of its internal fiasco.
They must take the blame for the fiasco, go into a meeting with the NASS leaders, iron out their issues and after a while, strike. The rest will fall in line.

OR

Allow saraki and dogara run their course and take that they can do almost nothing to change them, this is what PDP did.
I partly disagree with your opinion (saraki POV) on Saraki showing his hands too early.

He wants to be the Senate president, he saw the loop hole in the system, the timing was perfect to achieve his goal. what else you you mean by showing his hand too early?

Now he is Consolidating his grip by putting his men and also trying to appear as a man of equality by allowing the caucuses to appoint their representatives as contrary to what/who his party wants.

Sometimes doing the right thing for some people might look like the wrong thing for others.

Can't you see what he is doing(he is getting more pro-Saraki senators). He got the Senate lock down in his grip while the APC chieftain are bickering like babies/amatures.

Why didn't they have a meeting with Saraki informing him of their decision before sending the letter to him? That's being childish, you don't want him yet you want him to do your bidding.

Nothing will happen to Saraki till his tenure finishes. If APC fights him or suspends him they are at loss.

I'm not a fan of the Saraki but truth be told, his moves were text book just that the opponents are too daft and sentimental to even know when the have lost and move onto the next one.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by PatN2011: 1:18am On Jun 26, 2015
Who Knew?

Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by demandtruth: 2:06am On Jun 26, 2015
soe:
There are better ways to handle this matter than APC is doing. I mean, it is 100% clear to even a daft person! that Saraki, Dogara and their team are not APC members...push them out the way you are doing and PDP will become the Majority In the National Assembly.

That's why I miss OBJ.

OBJ will sit down quietly and write down the names of his silent enemies...no noise o.
OBJ will not disagree with him in public o.
OBJ will not even interfere in their matter o.
OBj will calculate all their moves from start to finish line.
OBJ will even give them food and juice to be comfortable...if you know what I mean...

Just one last card, land him a juicy mango...send all sort of corruption his way....Kai....nab him like hell...but cry with him.....

I swear, you will win both his friends and enemies...leaving him useless at the end...

APC needs a strategist...not this ones I am seeing here...who is Saraki...we all know what can finish Saraki...give it to him na
You know, i agreed with what you have writing. I also suggested one time
that PMB needs to learn from OBJ and, quickly too.

He's allowing himself to be hemmed in by forces that will destroy all his
agenda. You don't give your enemy too much room to outmaneuver simply
because you said "something".

Pdp in disguise, has stolen the mantle of leadership from the president.
Saraki and Dongara has shown no respect for the party leadership
and by extension to the President. It's simply not done in Nigeria context.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Tugbus(m):
doctokwus:
I predicted that Saraki,lesser so Dogara, would not know peace till they vacate their offices and its coming to pass.
Saraki is losing supporters by d day because even those who supported him initially are now coming to see that his is one man's unbridled ambition for power.
Saraki and Dogara can continue postponing the day of reckoning but it shall surely come.
There is no place in the world a man wins a mandate on a party's platform, based on the party's ideals and mantra and then goes against the party, running as an independent for an office that belongs to his party by its sheer majority.
APC would not stand it,those of us that voted for change won't stand it.
I'm struggling to believe you typed this.These men betrayed their party and ran to APC in their large numbers.They even made APC the majority at some certain time in the house.None of you here or anywhere dared asked them to relinquish the seat because they got there in the platform of another party.

Tanbuwal even left PDP and still retained his speakership seat and all of you here were are clapping for him and hailing him.

Hehehehe Karma in indeed a bitch and really it bleeps everyone.Live with it.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by GreenT: 3:17am On Jun 26, 2015
APC is creating doubtful atmosphere, am begining to have a rethink whether APC is truely alternative to PDP
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by ceeethru(m): 3:19am On Jun 26, 2015
Saraki, in rebellion to APC again, trying desperately to sustain PDP's impunity in the NASS by granting sensitive positions to questionable characters, nominating his candidate the same Ndume who's still on bail as one of the Boko Haram sponsors. I think Saraki is crossing his limits, it is time APC deals with him decisively. Why is PMB still silent on this, or is the president telling us he is incapable of caging rowdy over ambitious Saraki and co on a mission to undermine and ridicule his government? Honestly, we the voters are getting angry and impatient with all these nonsense going on, seeing our efforts in voting for change being dragged to the mud by few selfish unpatriotic lawless so-called legislators. No any politician got elected in isolation, they are all under a party and party's wishes must be respected.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by 9jatatafo(m): 3:28am On Jun 26, 2015
opiloper:
Saraki na traitor
So are all Nigerian politicians. They are not only traitors but betrayals too. That is what they all do to the electorates that voted them in, so, Saraki is giving them their own bitter pills to swallow and APC must swallow these better pills.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Nobody: 3:36am On Jun 26, 2015
[size=18pt]"APC = All Progressive Consequence" - Muhammadu Buhari[/size]

You voted for Buhari, you voted for Saraki, you voted for Ali Ndume. They were all your candidates. Since they got to the Senate by your vote, PDP will help you preserve them for as long as they wish. Do NOT cry yet. Keep your handkerchief yet. Soon you will need them!!! By the time they serve Buhari impeachment notice you will realise that this is really trouble. If they impeach Buhari and Osinbajo, the coast will become clear for President Saraki. He needs just 12 senators to do the job. Already reaching out to some Governors. Saraki is already on his way to the Presidency. If APC messes up, PDP and nPDP will take over Nigeria. It is called "Coup d'etat".
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by 9jatatafo(m): 3:39am On Jun 26, 2015
ceeethru:
Saraki, in rebellion to APC again, trying desperately to sustain PDP's impunity in the NASS by granting sensitive positions to questionable characters, nominating his candidate the same Ndume who's still on bail as one of the Boko Haram sponsors. I think Saraki is crossing his limits, it is time APC deals with him decisively. Why is PMB still silent on this, or is the president telling us he is incapable of caging rowdy over ambitious Saraki and co on a mission to undermine and ridicule his government? Honestly, we the voters are getting angry and impatient with all these nonsense going on, seeing our efforts in voting for change being dragged to the mud by few selfish unpatriotic lawless so-called legislators. No any politician got elected in isolation, they are all under a party and party's wishes must be respected.
PMB cannot do anything my friend. You forgot the principle of separation of powers among the arms of government. We have the executive arm of government, the legislative arm and the judiciary arm. PMB belongs to the executive and DBS (Dr Bukola Saraki) belongs to the legislative arm. They both do their things separately. Also I see no reason why the APC the ruling party should choose who and who to occupy any position in the hallowed chambers. We should forget about godfatherism. APC was never a party with a common agenda, the marriage between AC and CPC was hurriedly put together in order to dethrone PDP and they have achieved their aims, it is time for conflict of interest at the center which is playing out. Do recall how PDP members crossed to APC? Do you think these old PDP members cum APC members will accept the ideology of APC? Never. APC is built on faulty foundation and soon we will be witnessing its destruction. There are enough cracks on the wall already.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Nobody: 3:53am On Jun 26, 2015
soe:
There are better ways to handle this matter than APC is doing. I mean, it is 100% clear to even a daft person! that Saraki, Dogara and their team are not APC members...push them out the way you are doing and PDP will become the Majority In the National Assembly.

That's why I miss OBJ.

OBJ will sit down quietly and write down the names of his silent enemies...no noise o.
OBJ will not disagree with him in public o.
OBJ will not even interfere in their matter o.
OBj will calculate all their moves from start to finish line.
OBJ will even give them food and juice to be comfortable...if you know what I mean...

Just one last card, land him a juicy mango...send all sort of corruption his way....Kai....nab him like hell...but cry with him.....

I swear, you will win both his friends and enemies...leaving him useless at the end...

APC needs a strategist...not this ones I am seeing here...who is Saraki...we all know what can finish Saraki...give it to him na
Sorry, OBJ would have been more incapacitated than Buhari is now. Under OBJ, PDP had clear majority in both the Senate and HOR and so he could remove anyone through bribes, coercion, or otherwise. Now the Senate is skewed in favour of Saraki, so your analogy is BULLSHIT. If he was that effective why couldn't he pull through his 3rd Term Agenda or keep Etteh when the house went against her.
Do not overate OBJ, he was just opportune at the time.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by ascaris(m): 4:02am On Jun 26, 2015
Gboskee:
retard when will you get sense
When APC's holy ghost come upon me and i become like you.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Nobody: 4:29am On Jun 26, 2015
Which original list are they insisting on? Have they given Buhari a list of ministers? NASS is a separate arm of government as the executive. if the party cannot chose ministers for Buhari, what give them power to chose Saraki's leadership team?

APC should go and play politics and leave governance for the elected officials.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Nobody: 4:43am On Jun 26, 2015
nellyb24:
that of pally frm edo state.pls get ur facts b4 u spill shit.
I thought we have three senatorial seat in Edo of which
Edo South was won by PDP
Edo Central was won by PDP
Edo North was won by APC
Francis is the only APC winner in Edo. from what I think
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Gboskee(m): 4:52am On Jun 26, 2015
ascaris:
When APC's holy ghost come upon me and i become like you.
you are not on a struggle mission to be like me.
get it right!
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by san316(m): 4:56am On Jun 26, 2015
they are still insisting? na wa for APC look. fighting a lost battle.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Sant1m: 5:00am On Jun 26, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
Medicine after death, APC is dead and buried
then Pdp has already faced judgement and enjoying time in hell. That a party is in crisis does not mean the party is dead
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Akon419(m): 5:06am On Jun 26, 2015
doctokwus:
I predicted that Saraki,lesser so Dogara, would not know peace till they vacate their offices and its coming to pass.
Saraki is losing supporters by d day because even those who supported him initially are now coming to see that his is one man's unbridled ambition for power.
Saraki and Dogara can continue postponing the day of reckoning but it shall surely come.
There is no place in the world a man wins a mandate on a party's platform, based on the party's ideals and mantra and then goes against the party, running as an independent for an office that belongs to his party by its sheer majority.
APC would not stand it,those of us that voted for change won't stand it.
my God rule your life as your governor of osun state is ruling your state.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by Sant1m: 5:11am On Jun 26, 2015
Olaone1:
Anyone who thinks Buhari is not in support of what is happening at NASS is a political neophyte.


We warned you all. For the North/Fulani, it is all about being in power undecided
down with your conspiracy theory, its a lazy mans way of thinking, are you telling that there no fulani against Saraki. This total disloyalty not conceding anything to Lawn group is greed.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by legendary19(m): 5:16am On Jun 26, 2015
dis is sacarstic of dogara nd saraki......i h8 wot u guys comment no dragin of TINUBU issue here! abeg comment only ni stil rep #CHANGE ;Ddis is sacarstic of dogara nd saraki......i h8 wot u guys comment no dragin of TINUBU issue here! abeg comment only ni stil rep #CHANGE
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by gbagyiza: 5:24am On Jun 26, 2015
ice25:
The broom band has loosened. the strands has fallen apart. I pray it doesn't injure the broom waver
i like ur post.
Re: APC Insists On Its Original List Of NASS Leaders by chrisxxx(m): 6:14am On Jun 26, 2015
doctokwus:
I predicted that Saraki,lesser so Dogara, would not know peace till they vacate their offices and its coming to pass.
Saraki is losing supporters by d day because even those who supported him initially are now coming to see that his is one man's unbridled ambition for power.
Saraki and Dogara can continue postponing the day of reckoning but it shall surely come.
There is no place in the world a man wins a mandate on a party's platform, based on the party's ideals and mantra and then goes against the party, running as an independent for an office that belongs to his party by its sheer majority.
APC would not stand it,those of us that voted for change won't stand it.
What did u say when Tambuwal was moving against the collective interest of PDP? Karna strong oiiiiiooooo!
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