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frank317:
Of course I haven't... Isn't this the first time I am hearing that God switches his foreknowledge ability off and on? The thing you don't realize is that this new personality is like a mockery to a whole Almighty creator.
Accept it... You are not God and you can't sit in the comfort of your room and cook up a personality for him just to make sense of you mythical belief.
No one knows the exact beginning or creator of the world and it cannot be a personality switching ghost. If you engage me I will make you realize you know nothing.

frank317:
Of course I haven't... Isn't this the first time I am hearing that God switches his foreknowledge ability off and on? The thing you don't realize is that this new personality is like a mockery to a whole Almighty creator.
Accept it... You are not God and you can't sit in the comfort of your room and cook up a personality for him just to make sense of you mythical belief.
No one knows the exact beginning or creator of the world and it cannot be a personality switching ghost. If you engage me I will make you realize you know nothing.

vfactor:
Well let's look at it this way. How would you handle the situation where a person accuses u of being hardworking cos u received extra tips and benefits from your boss. That if u were just paid ur normal salary, u would be lazy and even quit the job for something better.

Its something of that nature, though not exactly the same.

God was not proving anything to the devil. No! He was proving that the devil is a liar. To prove this, those 'benefits' that Satan claimed Job enjoyed had to go, leaving just his 'basic salary' (life). Mind you this allegation was made in presence of other persons (angels,). So things needed to be set straight. God is not tyrannical. He doesn't need to prove anything to anybody either. In his wisdom, however he determined to set the matter straight for all to see, u and I included.

And God did restore double of what job lost. It will interest u to know that the same thing still happens to any who claims to serve God today out of genuine love.

vfactor:
Switch personality? Who mentioned that? There is a big difference between switching personality and choosing to do something or not do it.

johnydon22:
It provokes the question "How did you get to know?" "How did you know the feature of the all powerful god that exist outside the universe?"

You see any thing you bring up here will be curled directly from your imaginations and ideas of how you think or imagine it should be which then drags your god concept to the scope of a mere imagination.

Take my advice and don't engage

vfactor:
Switch personality? Who mentioned that? There is a big difference between switching personality and choosing to do something or not do it.

frank317:
Of course I haven't... Isn't this the first time I am hearing that God switches his foreknowledge ability off and on?

frank317:
There is no difference bro. When he chose not to know, he switches from knowing to not knowing. It makes nonsense man. And how you get to know this still makes me wonder.
And don't use English wrongly here man. No one is talking about choosing to do anything. You said he chooses not to know. Its more of a mental thing than an action. How can you explain God suddenly not having a foreknowledge ability?

dalaman:
He is just imagining ideas and concepts, and ascribing them to a God he created in his own mind. His fellow christian brother that doesn't agree with the ideas and concepts that he created and is ascribing to their God is already calling him out on it.

vfactor:
Of course it makes no sense engaging you. The last I did, you couldn't answer a simple question about your fore ancestor, either true proven science or any other means!

vfactor:
Interesting! You decide to take a cab to work today instead of driving, makes you a different person? Wow! Wonderful logic!

frank317:
Stop explaining away God like he is some kind of human. Shouldn't God be beyond proving a point to anyone? Why should God prove a point to the devil, his fallout creation? Who is the devil to accuse his Almighty creator in the first place? After rebelling against him he still have the guts to accuse him? What kind of ridiculous story is this. And the more you try, the more you make nonsense of this Creator.
Funny you keep on using humans to explain a supposed Almighty creator whom no eyes can behold.
The funny Job story is the worst and most silly story in the bible. Who ever wrote that thing must be a sick psychopath.

frank317:
Lol... Can you just tell me an action that can make one a different person? And I will show you how you are making God switch personality.

johnydon22:
Lol. . . i price myself high enough to know a childish question when i see one. . . Any person that has been to school should have known that a simple ancestry DNA test can reveal anything you wish to know about your ancestry, so the question was more of a disappointment in your own part which if i were you i would be ashamed to claim responsibility for.

Again i advice don't engage and i wouldn't even be the one to discuss with you

johnydon22:
CAPTIVATOR thinks so too. . .for the fact that the theist all have contradicting and different features they each attribute to this their god concept all shows that each relies on his imagination to determine what he/she wants and thinks god should be. . . Doesn't this always proves the atheist stance that everyone is just deifying his imaginations imbedded in another imaginative concept borrowed from older myths.

vfactor:
What or who do you think God is? How do you know what you think him to be is not your imagination?

frank317:
Nice... I just wish you can ask yourself this very question and if you answer sincerely... We would not be here

frank317:
The crazy thing is that he sounds so confident in making a joke out of this creator. Imagine the sufferings Job went through just because God wanted to prove a point to a mere devil whom no one should have taken seriously.

vfactor:
You should be telling me. How would I be aiding you with your logic?

vfactor:
The question was simple! How did humans come to be? You went to school right? It shouldn't be difficult

frank317:
I can do that... No probs.

If God knows the beginning from the end... This is who he is. But if he suddenly does not know that Adam will eat the fruit.... Is he not a different person? How is he the same God who knows the beginning from the end?

vfactor:
Well I am waiting for your answer. If you seem so sure that I am wrong. Then you should know what is right. If you seem so sure I am explaining God like he is human you must have an idea of His nature. Your answer is what I am expecting.

johnydon22:
Oh this? actually to this i simply say "I DON'T KNOW" the last i checked this particular subject is still under heavy study. . .a very simple answer

frank317:
I know you are explaining God like a human, isn't that obvious in all you have been writing? Do I need supernatural powers to see that?
Listen, I am human and so are you. Neither of us can really fanthom how this world came about. It is not even possible to imagine if this world has an end and if it does what lies behind the end.
I am hundred percent sure no one has a smallest knowledge of the creator (if we assume there is one). Anything we think of him is our imagination. And yours is so obvious and belittling of him. Everything written in the bible are peoples imagination and to take it serious is a huge joke. Saying I don't know instead of trying hard and sounding silly is the best.
I know you are not supernatural, stop trying to make yourself feel important by trying to explain something I know you don't know shit about.

vfactor:
Simple! That is what you would have said!

There are still other questions begging answers. Questions such as why are humans here? Do we have a purpose? Why is it that of all living things we humans seem to have a sense of what is right or wrong? I employ u to search deeply for answers to these questions.

vfactor:
Thanks for your analogy. However the fact that God has the power to foreknow, doesn't mean he wields such power at all times. The principle of giving free will to humans balances this. Same goes for God's power to destroy. That he can destroy doesn't mean he has always destroyed everything he doesn't like. That's the point I am trying to make. Its not like switching personality.

vfactor:
Simple! That is what you would have said!

There are still other questions begging answers. Questions such as why are humans here? Do we have a purpose?

Why is it that of all living things we humans seem to have a sense of what is right or wrong?
.

frank317:
When does God not wield this power?
If I get you right, are you saying that God does not weild the power whenever it comes to human freewill? Are you saying that God does not know the choice we human makes with our free will?
So God does not know what I will do tomorrow?

johnydon22:
[b][i]Purpose of a thing is exactly what you make out to be. . .the purpose of a cup to you might be to drink tea and my purpose of that might be to hold a pencil. . .

vfactor:
How do you know I am belittling him if you claim not have the slighest knowledge about the supposed creator ? You can't be so sure, can you, since u don't know?

vfactor:
Maybe you didn't get me in my question regarding purpose. I meant why are humans in general existing! A cup is mearnt to hold something, be it water or pencil. How about using a cup to send an email.

vfactor:
I am sure that if he chooses not to, he won't. I hold the bible as an authority. I don't if you do or not. What I am stating is in accordance to what I know from my bible studies.

If God knows exactly how each individual will end up, why does he extend the need for repentance? Everyone would have been judged from birth!