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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
Really? That's all you can say?

This has nothing to do with white supremacy but simply a country who wants to control immigration especially with the rise of anti immigration sentiments all over Europe. The rise of UKIP and other right wing parties is putting pressure on governments in Europe to control immigration and the UK already has loads of EU citizens coming everyday which they cannot control due to EU laws.

The next sensible thing to do is control immigration of non EU citizens.

Let's face the fact there are many people who go to the UK on student visas , just keep playing the system and not leave. I know Pakistan colleges in the UK where they will just keep enrolling you as a student so you keep extending the visa but do not attend class and just work.

I know a nepalese guy who we started as students together in 2006. He is still on student visa now 2015 and working most of the time.

If you attend a top university in the UK you have no problem getting getting job with a company who can sponsor you. The problem is we all flock the cheap low ranked schools and expect to get the best jobs when we finish. How will that work?

Look at Nigerians that studies in the UK in the 70s and 80s. Oxford, Cambridge, Manchester etc. Look now, London met, east London university etc.

Any logical government will only want the best to stay behind so they are doing what they have to do.

Australia and Canada need people now so their rules are slightly lax. Once the number rises to a certain point they will also tighten their immigration laws. It's logical and simple demand and supply.


100 likes. Although Canada and Australia have both introduced something called express entry and expression of interest respectively, both are like gambling. PR was almost automatic in both countries as at 2years ago...but now, they are slowly towing the UK path. One advantage is that both countries still give foreign students a chance of working for 1-3 years after graduation, something the UK abolished 3 years ago.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by john650(m): 8:03pm On Jul 12, 2015
ITbomb:
LOL

Upon all our foreign exchange dumped into their country, they just want to collect and not pay back. What is the use of schooling in UK if you cannot get a UK working experience before coming back to Nigeria.

NIgeria should just limit UK cert especially those without working experience, this will make going to UK less attractive
You are on point. They just want your money. Come spend your money and leave is their mantra. Don't mind this white blokes. They want UK to remain white. No multi-culturalism or any of those fluffy words. You don't see them extending the ban to other European countries who actually constitute the largest number of immigrants. It is simply targeted at South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis), Arabs and Africans.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by moshould(m): 8:05pm On Jul 12, 2015
I no blme them !!! Na our rulers turn us to slaves and beggars for our country, dats why we dey look for greener pastures..stil hoping to see naija as a country that can depot dos white bastards...

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Nobody: 8:07pm On Jul 12, 2015
tensazangetsu:
https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2015/world-ranking#/
Please can someone point out how many UK schools are there and compare the prices to other top schools in other countries. Nigerians take your money somewhere else leave that useless country they call UK.
I counted 11 out of 100 or 29 out of 200. That is over 10%. That's actually good. The US is the only country with a higher number of university than the UK on that list.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by vislabraye(m): 8:13pm On Jul 12, 2015
free2ryhme:
International students pay 3X what home students pay. It is already very difficult to remain in the UK legally after studying in the UK. Well i am sure other countries and their Universities would not mind taking the revenue international student tuition brings, because i doubt anyone would want to pay all that only to be kicked out as soon as he/she finishes.

Uk is getting leaner and meaner.... angry . At least Canada and US is another good option.
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by achukonnamdi(m): 8:15pm On Jul 12, 2015
Make una com bak naija jooo

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by souljaboi51(m): 8:18pm On Jul 12, 2015
Faraidi:
This was what Buhari went to discuss with them,Foolish presido
what are you saying na

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by IbroSaunks(m): 8:28pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
I see where you are coming from, but let's face the fact they wouldn't really be affected as they already he attract the best from EU countries.

Germans, French, etc all flock the UK to work in banking an other industries. Th people from the poorer countries like Romania and Poland also flock in to do the menial jobs and jobs like nursing etc so in reality they actually have too many people coming.

The pressure on the NHS, the school system and the housing system is enormous an becoming a problem because they cannot control the number of EU citizens coming in so logically controlling non EU makes sense.


The Non EU students pay more than double the amount the EU citizens pay. Add that to the fact that British students can pay after their studies. Let's face it, Non EU students are contributing to the subsidization of their uni education. If less international students come due to stricter immigration rules their unis will feel it..

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by simplynola(m): 8:29pm On Jul 12, 2015
Then they should stop coming here to advertise their stupid skools. The embassy cannot keep benefiting from student visa fees when there is no value in their skools or system. You should be able to benefit something from your host community

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by ttmacoy: 8:35pm On Jul 12, 2015
Firstly non EU student do not always pay double. Secondly even if they did it is subsidised by the government using the taxes they pay. Thirdly even for EU and UK students there is talk about increasing fees again for them.

As an international student, you are paying for the education not the right to remain in the UK but we seem to think they are both the same thing and being an international student should automatically give you the right to remain and work.

Yes the Uni's will feel it, but they will adjust. The decision is for the good of the overall UK economy as the cost of uncontrolled immigration on the NHS, primary and secondary school places and transportation is very high and increasing with more and more EU national moving to the UK.

The UNI'S can open campuses outside the UK if they are want more international students can't they? Nottingham has campuses in Malaysia and the Middle East don't they?

As I said for the good universities, they will fine. For those below par they will struggle and have to adjust accordingly.

If your aim as most of us claim when we apply for the student visa is to return home, then what is the problem?

If you know your aim is to try to stay behind then at this point Canada, Australia are better options. This will always change with time based on the immigration needs of each country at each point in time.

IbroSaunks:


The Non EU students pay more than double the amount the EU citizens pay. Add that to the fact that British students can pay after their studies. Let's face it, Non EU students are contributing to the subsidization of their uni education. If less international students come due to stricter immigration rules their unis will feel it..

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by vislabraye(m): 8:37pm On Jul 12, 2015
tensazangetsu:
This same UK that nigerians are dying to school in funny enough they end up going to rubbish lowly ranked schools there. They don't even go to Oxford or cambridge na all those rubbish lindaikeji schools abeg make una come see o.

Lol.... . But getting to Oxford, Cambridge and co aint easy. The fees you'll pay is one thing and their requirements are high. But when you consider the ratings of our schools at home to those lindaikeji schools in Uk that u talk about, they are still way higher.
Compare the facilities in Lautech for instance to a college of education (not university oh) in UK, you'll be shocked.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Nobody: 8:44pm On Jul 12, 2015
vislabraye:


Lol.... . But getting to Oxford, Cambridge and co aint easy. The fees you'll pay is one thing and their requirements are high. But when you consider the ratings of our schools at home to those lindaikeji schools in Uk that u talk about, they are still way higher.
Compare the facilities in Lautech for instance to a college of education (not university oh) in UK, you'll be shocked.
so what of other highly ranked schools or are you implying only the UK has standard quality education.
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Baroba(m): 8:47pm On Jul 12, 2015
feldido:
Nigerians have always made other countries step up their game.
We always push dem to the wall.

I knew this was coming, the number of weddings between Nigerian students and EU nationals is alarming, it was only a matter of time before Cameron with his anti immigration policies clamp down on this.

Surviving in England without work will be very very difficult, its difficult as it is on just 20 hrs of work a week, i dont even want to imagine what it will be without none...I will advice any one thinking of studying in UK to have a serious rethink. Canada and Australia presents better proposition in my opinion..

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by guiddoti: 9:00pm On Jul 12, 2015
johncreek:
Why now for God sake... I know Nigeria is their target.
sure! indians, nigerians and chinese. often chinese leave after study leaving d first two as their target
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by IbroSaunks(m): 9:17pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
Firstly non EU student do not always pay double. Secondly even if they did it is subsidised by the government using the taxes they pay. Thirdly even for EU and UK students there is talk about increasing fees again for them.

As an international student, you are paying for the education not the right to remain in the UK but we seem to think they are both the same thing and being an international student should automatically give you the right to remain and work.

Yes the Uni's will feel it, but they will adjust. The decision is for the good of the overall UK economy as the cost of uncontrolled immigration on the NHS, primary and secondary school places and transportation is very high and increasing with more and more EU national moving to the UK.

The UNI'S can open campuses outside the UK if they are want more international students can't they? Nottingham has campuses in Malaysia and the Middle East don't they?

As I said for the good universities, they will fine. For those below par they will struggle and have to adjust accordingly.

If your aim as most of us claim when we apply for the student visa is to return home, then what is the problem?

If you know your aim is to try to stay behind then at this point Canada, Australia are better options. This will always change with time based on the immigration needs of each country at each point in time.


If they increase their fees won't there be an effect on the number of citizens that actually go to uni? Add the fact that they're turning maintenance grants into loans. With countries like Germany offering free education, it's quite conceivable that more UK students would move towards cheaper or free options.

The unis benefit from the international students not only financially, but also the wealth of research that takes place. And I don't know if it qualifies as uncontrolled immigration with all the rules they already apply. There are studies that say that the skilled migrants actually contribute to the economy. In my opinion they're just looking for people to blame.

Don't see it purely as a matter of settlement, valuable work experience is an issue here. If international undergrad students spend 45000 GBP in a UK school the least they can get is valuable work experience that'll improve their employability when they return.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by bbdd: 9:19pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
I see where you are coming from, but let's face the fact they wouldn't really be affected as they already he attract the best from EU countries.

Germans, French, etc all flock the UK to work in banking an other industries. Th people from the poorer countries like Romania and Poland also flock in to do the menial jobs and jobs like nursing etc so in reality they actually have too many people coming.

The pressure on the NHS, the school system and the housing system is enormous an becoming a problem because they cannot control the number of EU citizens coming in so logically controlling non EU makes sense.


You're making sense. But the truth is that if you're going to take money from students then you damn well have to be able to give them a window no matter how strict to practice what they've learnt from your own universities.

Besides,the UK is taking the easy way out. Why not fish out those that abuse the system rather than this broad stroke action that affects both the useful and useless.

Makes no sense
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by ttmacoy: 9:35pm On Jul 12, 2015
No, universities taking a fee to give you education does no mean the UK government must allow you work. Please stop mixing the two.

They have made it very clear what their immigration policy is so it is up to international students to decide what works best for them. Each country determines their immigration policy based on their situation and needs and if the UK want to clamp down on non EU immigration then they have the right. This means for students who actually just want to study and return home it works. If you know you actually want to remain and work then go to a country like Canada or Australia who have more favorable policies at this point.

It very simple to me. A Ghanian coming to Convenant University an paying the fees does not mean the Nigerian government must give him the right to work in Nigeria.

You need to read the undertone. They need to control immigration numbers and given they cannot do much about EU citizens this means non EU immigration must be controlled and students make up a large chunk.

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this sense of entitlement we seem to have here that we are entitled to work in the UK. Universities earn their fees and that doesn't mean you have paid the UK government for the right to remain and work.

bbdd:


You're making sense. But the truth is that if you're going to take money from students then you damn well have to be able to give them a window no matter how strict to practice what they've learnt from your own universities.

Besides,the UK is taking the easy way out. Why not fish out those that abuse the system rather than this broad stroke action that affects both the useful and useless.

Makes no sense

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by docsholz(m): 9:49pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
No universities taking a few to give you education does no mean they must allow you work. Please stop mixing the 2.

They have made it very clear what their immigration policy is so it is up to international students to decide whether works best for them. Each country determine their immigration policy Base on their situation and needs and it the UK want to clamp down on non EU immigration then they have the right. This means for students who actually just want to study and return home it works. If you know you actually want to remain and work then go to a country like Canada or Australia who have more favourable policies at this point.

It very simple to me.

You nee to read the undertone. They need to control immigration numbers and given they cannot do much about EU citizens this means non EU immigration must be controlled and students make up a large chunk.

I'm sorry but I don't buy all this demand we seem to have here that we are entitled to work in th UK. Universities earn their fees and that doesn't mean you have paid the UK government for the right to remain and work.

me sef tire o,peeps here are making it sound like they're paying for a right to work in UK, at the end of the day it's their country and their rules, anyone uncomfortable with it should not go there

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by 360command: 9:55pm On Jul 12, 2015
aieromon:
Don't bother going to the UK to further your education. I believe with time,they will bring their campuses to Nigeria since we are a major cash cow.
I believe they are doing such in Ghana now..
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by vislabraye(m): 9:58pm On Jul 12, 2015
tensazangetsu:
so what of other highly ranked schools or are you implying only the UK has standard quality education.

Of course not. The point is that those lowly rated schools in the US or UK or probably most Westn nations have standard of education compared to ours.
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by jolly94: 10:16pm On Jul 12, 2015
Sad it has come to this state,well it's blessing in disguise for nigeria has it will minimally curb the effect of brain drain.At this point in time the nigerian government should use this as an opportunity to revamp the education sector and sanitize it as augean stables.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by john650(m): 10:17pm On Jul 12, 2015
Brytawon:
Racism is the greatest challenged that has ever plagued earth. Don't ask me why...
Racism is a white man's disease. Stay away from their countries and you will likely not experience it.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Nobody: 10:19pm On Jul 12, 2015
UK should concentrate on those desert dwellers who claim govt aid and benefits by bringing in their entire village into the UK to form sharia communities and leeching off a system they hate and want to destroy. Academicians should be allowed to stay not these parki parki peeps who have turned lutton into Yemen

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jul 12, 2015
feldido:
Nigerians have always made other countries step up their game.
We always push dem to the wall.

This guy you're cracking me up! rotfl
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by vickylala239: 10:48pm On Jul 12, 2015
souljaboi51:
For those who intend to work after studying in the UK, please consider this.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3158012/Foreign-students-banned-working-forced-leave-UK-course-ends.html




Goodnews!!!!

Goodnews!!!

cum bck n developed ur country!!

cum bck n see Wat Buhari is turning Nigerian into.

Cum n follow us n read Boko news jare.

Stop sleeping in jail,Jst to carry d tag,I went abroad.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by AreaFada2: 10:54pm On Jul 12, 2015
saxywale:

Those Chinese and Arab students eehn. Over rich dey worry them. I remember Chinese students like buying £1000 SLR camera and £2000 laptops, then start snapping funny stuffs like leaves, insects, traffic lights e.t.c
The northern Nigerians too would just disappear back to Nigeria after submitting their projects. Some won't even return for graduation ceremony. Too much money.

Those Northern people with foreign degrees tend to get jobs in their states easily. Or secure more scholarship from their state government to study for higher degrees abroad.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by mamajaz(f): 11:00pm On Jul 12, 2015
Eliza5050:
Una dey mad!
Dis white people always thinking they're superior
with dia yeye colour! undecided
Let dem go to hell! undecided
My dearest sister, please let them go to the lagoon before hell, so that it will be double wahala for their dead bodies!

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by Brytawon(m): 11:02pm On Jul 12, 2015
john650:

Racism is a white man's disease. Stay away from their countries and you will likely not experience it.


I tell you but what can man do when our standards are not up to theirs?
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by dasparrow: 11:10pm On Jul 12, 2015
@Post

It is time we revamp our education sector here in Nigeria. For those wanting to study abroad, I would think Canada is a better option.
Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by AreaFada2: 11:11pm On Jul 12, 2015
ttmacoy:
Really? That's all you can say?

This has nothing to do with white supremacy but simply a country who wants to control immigration especially with the rise of anti immigration sentiments all over Europe. The rise of UKIP and other right wing parties is putting pressure on governments in Europe to control immigration and the UK already has loads of EU citizens coming everyday which they cannot control due to EU laws.

The next sensible thing to do is control immigration of non EU citizens.

Let's face the fact there are many people who go to the UK on student visas , just keep playing the system and not leave. I know Pakistan colleges in the UK where they will just keep enrolling you as a student so you keep extending the visa but do not attend class and just work.

I know a nepalese guy who we started as students together in 2006. He is still on student visa now 2015 and working most of the time.

If you attend a top university in the UK you have no problem getting getting job with a company who can sponsor you. The problem is we all flock the cheap low ranked schools and expect to get the best jobs when we finish. How will that work?

L[b]ook at Nigerians that studies in the UK in the 70s and 80s. Oxford, Cambridge, Manchester etc. Look now, London met, east London university et[/b]c.

The bolded is so true. Instead of going to lowly ranked schools in UK, except for professional courses like nursing, radiography, physiotherapy and so on, better stay in 9ja. If you attend Oxbridge, University of London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Warwick, Durham, Imperial College and so on, your chances are still bright. It seems we have really fallen behind since the 50s to 80s.

A guy criticised me for applying to one of top universities many years back. He said "how you go dey put your hand where your hand no reach?" shocked shocked Even without knowing my academic pedigree.

I was surprised to hear that. We were told in 9ja those days that if you pass your GCE with top grades, you can walk into any university in the world. That was always my belief. And I was admitted. A long course too.

We need to be more ambitious like 60 to 20 years back.

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Re: Foreign Students Will Be Banned From Working And Forced To Leave The UK by peterpaulis(m): 11:43pm On Jul 12, 2015

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