Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

barcanista:
Question for the House:

Which Senate created the inhouse standing rule of 1999?

TGM2015:

Thanks you, in the first instance, the Senate president and the deputy are defendants to this case and there is no existence of any committee to refer to. Therefore, in this case who should the aggrieved senator write petition to, if not police force taking cognizant that the petition was with intention that a criminal offence has been committed?

ibedun:

Yeah, we know those ones.

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

barcanista:
My brother, one of the problem we have in this country is that we are too emotional. The so-called Senate standing rule is nothing but a document to guide the business of the Senate. It is not a LAW and defaulters are punished according to the rule. It is like the rules and regulations of any organisation. Now if certain persons insist that the 2015 document is forged, then which one is the original? If certain persons insist that the 7th Senate never adopted the Standing rule, then who adopted the 1999 standing rule (as there was no Senate prior)? You get my message?

If a group says the rules was breached, he has to petition the Office of the Senate President. It doesn't matter whether or not the occupant was a defendant. The SP will constitute an adhoc committee to investigate it IF he sees merit in it. The police cannot work with it as long as no section of the law was breached. This is a non issue my friend.

Clerverly:


Smh! Do you know that some Managing Directors of banks had been jailed for only inserting words In the minutes of their board meeting thereby committing forgery? Why do you choose to gloss over a pure criminal case just to oil your political standing?

chukwudi44:
It is the perogative of the NASS bureacracy and not senators to create or amend house rules!!! The house rules for each NASS is unique and created by the clerk prior to the inauguration of that particular house.That is why we have senate house rules 1999,2003,2007,2011 and 2015

No senate commitee or constutional amendment team sat down to create the house rules for 1999.It has always been the perogative of the clerk to prepare the house rules for the incomming senate.
In the words of Senator Ike Ekweremadu

“Just as I said in a statement a few days ago, we will not be intimidated and will do everything democratically possible to protect the independence of the

He washed his hands off the allegation, saying at the time the said Senate Standing Rule/Order 2015 was made, he had ceased being the Deputy Senate President and so was no longer a principal officer to have contributed to the making of the document in question.

He said the making of a new Rule/Order for a new Senate or House was entirely the business of the National Assembly bureucracy, asking those striving to frame him up to look elsewhere.


He said: “Let me just explain here that every National Assembly, that is every Senate or House has its Standing Rule/Order as every Standing Rule/Order normally has a life span of four years. So, if you go to the Office of the Clerk to the National Assembly now, you are likely to find Standing Rules/Orders of 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 and the current 2015.


“From the point of the valedictory session of the 7th Senate on 4th June, Senator Ike Ekweremadu, Distinguished Senator David Mark and the rest of other members of the 7th Senate ceased to be senators until the 9th of June, when the 8th Senate was inaugurated; and as usually done, the new senators received new Standing Rule/Order 2015.


“The making of that 2015 edition of the Senate Rule/Order is the business of the bureaucracy of the National Assembly. What the 8th Senate can do, which its predecessors have sometimes done is to amend as suitable. And the process of the amendment is spelt out in the that document~ DSP Ike Ekweremadu





Anyone who wants to challenge the status quo should simply go to court

barcanista:
My brother, one of the problem we have in this country is that we are too emotional. [b] The so-called Senate standing rule is nothing but a document to guide the business of the Senate. [\b] It is not a LAW and defaulters are punished according to the rule. It is like the rules and regulations of any organisation. Now if certain persons insist that the 2015 document is forged, then which one is the original? If certain persons insist that the 7th Senate never adopted the Standing rule, then who adopted the 1999 standing rule (as there was no Senate prior)? You get my message?

If a group says the rules was breached, he has to petition the Office of the Senate President. It doesn't matter whether or not the occupant was a defendant. The SP will constitute an adhoc committee to investigate it IF he sees merit in it. The police cannot work with it as long as no section of the law was breached. This is a non issue my friend.

TGM2015:

...Noting the real sense of ratification that unless an action has been ratified by the principal, in this case 8th Senate, it becomes null and void. The ratification needs to come before implementing or enforcing it on 8th Assembly...

TGM2015:

...
1. Was the amended rules ratify by the senators present at the inauguration.
2. Was the number of senators who ratified it up to required numbers as specified by relevant laws, tiles and orders...

Bollove:
You folks behave more silly than necessary ...

what is fraudulent about Saraki's emergence ?
Is it the senators that nominated him unopposed ?
The manner he was elected unopposed
Or some agbayas that went to ICC to eat Amala and Ewedu instead of being in NASS to perform the duty for which their constituencies elected them
Or the fact that Saraki is politically and Nationally popular and matured than Tinubu

even where Saraki is removed ( which is impossible), election would be re-conducted noni and 49 PDP senators with his 8 APC members would give Saraki his victory. Moreover, Saraki could even get more numbers from APC members this time

You folks already lost this battle since "year 0"

Ode omo Yoruba alai ni'rori ..... PDP are in NASS to deal with Tinubu and His GODFATHERISM stance over National Assembly

nduchucks:
I urge everyone to read this article in its entirety to note the extend of the fraud perpetrated against Nigerians. It may very well be time to shut down the NASS, guard it with the army, and declare a state of emergency, until legitimate elections of the Senate President and his vice can be conducted as prescribed in the non fraudulent standing order.

This fraud is completely unacceptable.,

TGM2015:

A document that guide an institution created by constitution was forged in collaboration of the Senate president and other interested parties, you are here advocating that the case should be investigated by the same Senate president. A document that can alter the business of institution that has control over 60% of legislative arms of the Government is not a business of Police, and Nigeria, then I have to rest the case there with you.

Moreover, my judgement is not based on emotions but based on all available facts and evidence. Emotions only needed to sustains the struggle till a fair justice is done and seen as being done.. still waiting for NPF report on their investigation.

gbrown:

I DONT LIKE DESPERATE MEN, DESPERATE MEN ARE FRAUDULENT, IF SARAKI AND EKWEREMADU HAD EMERGED UNDER THE FULL HOUSE I WILL NOT COMPLAIN, IF SARAKI HAD WASHED HIS HANDS OFF THIS HOUSE PRINCIPAL OFFICERS ISSUE I WILL NOT COMPLAIN, THE MAN SARAKI HAS ONLY ONE POLITICAL BASE WHICH IS LIMITED TO THE SPELLBOUND PEOPLE OF KWARA STATE, EVERY MOVE OF SARAKI SHOWS DESPERATION, I DONT SEE A CORDIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SARAKI AND THE PRESIDENCY,AS FOR EKWEREMADU, HE WILL REMAIN A MERE RUBBER STAMP, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER HE REMAINED A MERE SENATOR AND SERVICE THE NEEDS OF HIS PEOPLE WITH HIS CONSTITUENCY PROJECT MONEY, HONESTLY I DONT KNOW WHY IGBOS LOVE TO PLAY SECOND FIDDLE, THIS IS HOW THEY WERE REWARDED WITH AN AZIKIWE CEREMONIAL PRESIDENCY WITH NO POWER WHILE REAL POWER RESTED WITH TAFAWA BALEWA, I KEEP WONDERING, IS IT A CRIME FOR AN IGBO MAN TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA? THE IGBOS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND DEVELOP APGA TO A NATIONAL PARTY JUST AS TINUBU DID WITH AD,AC,ACN AND NOW APC, IT,S TIME FOR IGBOS TO CARVE OUT AN IDENTITY.

Jalinco:
I have just confirmed that the so call 2015 senate rule is Igbo made

fkaz:


According to senator ITA ENNAG(who is a member of committee on house rule since 1999-2015), said the senate and house of rep STANDING RULE which national assembly members use upon resumption in 1999 was a product of 1999 CONSTITUTIONAL CONFRENCE for both states and federal legislature. Which members themselves later amended to create more committees and other rules

BossTtdiamonds:


You're missing a point..those involved in the supposed forgery if found guilty would cease to become senators.. If Saraki is among them, he'll be chewed to pieces.... Either way, those who are to support him would reduce....

Pangea:


Because the igbos don't have the time, patience and diplomacy to build a national party.
Hence the shortcut,
Biafra!

gbrown:

I CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE IGBOS, IT,S ONE POLITICAL BLUNDER TO ANOTHER, THE OTHER TIME THEY TEAMED UP WITH NPN JUST SO THAT AWOLOWO WILL NOT BECOME PRESIDENT, THEY WERE REWARDED WITH AN ALEX EKWEME VICE PRESIDENCY, HOW THIS IMPARTED IN THIER REGION IS STILL TO BE ANSWERED, JUST THIS LAST ELECTION THEY AGAIN PITCHED THIER TENT WITH A SINKING AND CLUELESS JONATHAN, NOW THEY HAVE NO BARGAINING POWER

barcanista:
...The so-called Senate standing rule is nothing but a document to guide the business of the Senate. It is not a LAW and defaulters are punished according to the rule. It is like the rules and regulations of any organisation. Now if certain persons insist that the 2015 document is forged, then which one is the original?..

barcanista:
...It is not a LAW and defaulters are punished according to the rule. [b]It is like the rules and regulations of any organisation. Now if certain persons insist that the 2015 document is forged, then which one is the original?..

barcanista:
[b]If a group says the rules was breached, he has to petition the Office of the Senate President. ...

barcanista:
It doesn't matter whether or not the occupant was a defendant. The SP will constitute an adhoc committee to investigate it IF he sees merit in it. The police cannot work with it as long as no section of the law was breached. This is a non issue my friend.

barcanista:
You didn't respond to pertinent questions. If some people insist that the standing rules used were forged then where is the original? If they say that the 7th Senate ought to amend it, then who produced the standing order for the 4th Senate(1999)?

fkaz:

According to senator ITA ENNAG (who is a member of committee on house rule since 1999-2015), said the senate and house of rep STANDING RULE which national assembly members use upon resumption in 1999 was a product of 1999 CONSTITUTIONAL CONFRENCE for both states and federal legislature. Which members themselves later amended to create more committees and other rules

chukwudi44:


Ode what is your obsession with the igbo race? I thought you people said we are politically daft !!! Getting the speaker of the HOR(second republic) and DSP(4th republic) from a minority parties signifies sophistication afterall.I think you think less of the igbos and focus on your own political woes

HungerBAD:
I knew Saraki's days were numbered as the Senate President, what i did not know was that he will go this fast. Okay, lets go to work and get this fraud impeached.

Ghandi12:


Most Senators (past and present) will take an exception to your choice of words in describing the document they draft and ratify to guide their business.



Anything admissible in a Court of Law is invaluable. People are constantly in dispute with their organization and the rules and regulations of the organization most times become the vital tool the Court adopts in adjudication.

The accusers here may only be interested in legally proving the 2015 document is forged and unacceptable. Stories from both sides have chronicled the traditional evolution of new Senate standing orders since 1999 to 2011.



They are not claiming the "rules was breached" they appear to be proving the Senate standing 2015 is forged and therefore acceptable.
The group have a good case. It will be a disservice to them to complain of a "breach of 2015 rules" when they can actually prove the 2015 is forged and unacceptable.



If this group case is to prove the 2015 rules is forged and unacceptable, obviously they do not, yet, accept or respect the present occupier of the Senate presidency. There is, currently, a dispute and only the Court of Law is constitutionally empowered to adjudicate in all disputes.

The Police/EFFC/ICPC are legally empowered to receive petitions, investigate, and prosecute.
The Police have started working on this case and it is left to the petitioners to ensure their case is successfully determined in their favor.

omenka:
This is equivalent to treason. Dude's gotta see the inner workings of Kirikiri or Ekwulobia.

gbrown:

would have replied, but i never bother with people who are insulting.

chukwudi44:


Going by your analogy Buhari would also cease to be president when any plantiff file for his disqualification on account of certificate forgery!!!!

Give up dude there is no way out for you!! You foisted an illiterate on the throne and you will have to live with the repercussions