olapluto:

A very ignorant statement.

sorry for the typo error
Investigation "of" financial crimes is solely the duty of the EFCC and the ICPC. Please enlighten me on the knowledgeable aspect known to you

hinwazaka:

Cartel /noun: a group of seperate companies that agree to increase profits by fixing prices and not competing with each other
This is an economic ,not a security affair. The best way of handling such a issue was that which was used by the previous administration. And this is by breaking the Barriers to entry into a monopolistic market. By increasing the numbers of marketers in such a market. This would lead to alteration of the accepted rules of the market and in the long run force prices down. The hard way is not the only way

If you are talking of things like goods that do not amount to the economic security of the country yes.

Petrol refers to the economic security of Nigeria. It is not just an economic crime at this point, it relates to national security.

zicoraads:

You are the one who is making it too easy.

1. Isn't it ironic that what the DSS claimed to have went in for suddenly changed? Why didn't they tell the whole world the 'National Security' issues that necessitated the search? Was the search about bullet proof cars or national security issues as was claimed? The bullet proof cars was the most insane cover up ever, and as usual, the gullible ones fell for it hook, line and sinker. I am still waiting for the DSS to provide evidence of the national security issues that warranted storming Dasuki's residence, until then, it was a clear case of witch hunt. Ownership of bullet proof cars does not equate to threatening national security. Even kids of the super rich drive those cars in Abuja.

You do know you need a special permit to use a bullet proof car in Nigeria?

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vecman22:


You sound pained....

Barcamumu most chop dat is why his doing all this his doing,Nl is d mumu's office...

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i'm sure your idiotic friends can deduce what you typed there coz their understanding level measures with yours. I bet your brain feels as good as new, seeing that you've never used it

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PassingShot:

I dey laaaaafffffuuuuuuuuuu o!

Enjoy your day!

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you're such an idiot!

hinwazaka:
sorry for the typo error
Investigation "of" financial crimes is solely the duty of the EFCC and the ICPC. Please enlighten me on the knowledgeable aspect known to you

Dude enlighten yourself
https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/aboutus/statutory-roles
That's the DSS's website. For the benefit of those who can't access it,



The State Security Service is obligated by law to perform the following:

a. Prevention, detection and Investigation of:

i. Threat of espionage
ii. Threat of subversion
iii. Ehreat of sabotage
iv. Economic crimes of national security dimension
v. Terrorist activities
vi. Separatist agitations and inter-group conflicts
vii. Threats to law and order

b. Provision of protective security for designated principal government functionaries, sensitive installations and visiting foreign dignitaries;

c. vetting of:

i. prospective appointees to public offices:

ii. vital and sensitive corporate organizations before their incorporation in Nigeria, and continuous covert monitoring of their activities to ensure that they ate in line with national security interest: and

iii. Applicants for Nigerian International passports and Naturalization/Nigerian citizenship.

iv. provision of timely advice to Government on all •matters of national security interest; and

v. such other functions as may from time to time be • assigned by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

The operations of the State Security Service may arise out of tasking directed personally by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces; the National Defense and Security. Council; the National Security Adviser; the Intelligence Community Committee (ICC) or the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) subject to ratification by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed .Forces where considered necessary or desirable.

For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a Superior Police Officer in respect of searches and arrests.

The State Security Service is empowered to:

a) Maintain a watchlist action and travel control at the nation's land borders, sea ports and airports for the purpose of monitoring the movements of persons considered as risks to the security of the nation;

b) Impound and keep in its custody. the passports or any other property of persons or organizations under investigation if considered appropriate by the Director-General. Returns of all such Seizures shall be rendered to the National Security Adviser, while such passports shall be returned to the Owners as soon as the investigation is concluded.

RESPONSIBILITY

The State Security Service shall be charged with responsibility for:

a) The prevention and detection within Nigeria of any crime against the internal security of Nigeria:

b) The protection and preservation of all non-military classified matters concerning the internal security of Nigeria: and

c) Such other responsibilities affecting internal security within Nigeria as the National Assembly or the President: as the case may be: may deem necessary

AZeD1:

No, the EFCC is not the only body charged with investigating financial crimes. Even the police has a fraud unit. By law, the DSS is empowered to investigate any crime that can compromise the internal security of the country.

The fraud unit of the police after discovering any financial impropriety would handover the case to the EFCC for forensic investigations because they are more equipped and are mandated by law to handle all financial crimes. Its the courts role to interpret what justifies as a crime against the security of the state but the role of the DSS to identify it.

AZeD1:

You do know you need a special permit to use a bullet proof car in Nigeria?

Of cos I know that, I also know that those bullet proof cars were not the primary reason they went into Dasuki's compound. See ehn, if the DSS wants to start arresting people with bullet proof cars and deeming it as 'national security threats'...dem go arrest plenty people.

My point here is, and let us be sincere, do you honestly and sincerely think the DSS went in primarily for those cars? Until I see what they termed 'national security threats', I am saying, they are just using the cars as a cover for goofing.

zicoraads:

You are the one who is making it too easy.

1. Isn't it ironic that what the DSS claimed to have went in for suddenly changed? Why didn't they tell the whole world the 'National Security' issues that necessitated the search? Was the search about bullet proof cars or national security issues as was claimed? The bullet proof cars was the most insane cover up ever, and as usual, the gullible ones fell for it hook, line and sinker. I am still waiting for the DSS to provide evidence of the national security issues that warranted storming Dasuki's residence, until then, it was a clear case of witch hunt. Ownership of bullet proof cars does not equate to threatening national security. Even kids of the super rich drive those cars in Abuja.

2. The DPR also has an investigative arm. The FBI and the DSS have different functions. Stop using an American agency like the FBI to give credence to what the DSS did. The FBI has a more far reach than the DSS. As far as we know, the DPR didn't deem the marketers as threatening national security for the DSS to have intervened. What simply happened was a clear case of the President bypassing the DPR to order his brother in the DSS, whom he trusts, to carry out the functions of the DPR.

3. This boy...escorting electoral materials doesn't give them the authority to 'see it all through'. Is arresting electoral frauds and cheats a job for the DSS? What then is the job of the Police? The DSS has no job with these arrests. Does an electoral offence equate to threatening national security? Na wa ooo! Remember when the APC went to court to ask the courts to stop the FG from using the Army and the DSS for election purposes? They did that because it is not the responsibility of the DSS. And didn't the court grant them their prayers? Why then is it suddenly right to use them as arresting officers. It is wrong in all ramifications. Stop trying to justify it.

4. Young man...go and read up on the roles and responsibilities of the DSS. So, based on your own reasoning, if a burglar enters my house, the DSS can also visit the scene of the crime? Or, if there is a hit and run? Since they 'can visit any crime scene'.

Kai! Mynd44

1. No one said anyone cannot drive a bulletproof car, you must have a licence to do so. Is that so difficult? You want to. The cars are just something the found. You want to know why they were there, ask the judge that gave then the warrant to search the house

2 As far as you know the DPR did not consider the actions of the DSS as a national security one but the DSS did right? Has the DPR come out to complain about jurisdictions?

3. The court granted their prayers right? But was the army and DSS used during the elections or not?

4. Dude the DSS can use their discretion to decide which case to take and which not to take. A bank robbery is statutorily a police case but the DSS can decide to take it up from the police if they want or if it forms part of a larger investigations.

I am not in the mood for philistinism this morning

[size=16pt]Behold, Buhari's new NSO![/size]

The word "progressive" is the most abused in the world courtesy APC.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:


If APC Supporters on Nairaland known to be sympathizers and mouthpiece of Bokoharam were called progressives and you never complained then I put it to you that you are a hypocrite for complaining about a nomenclature given to opposition supporters critiquing the policies and the actions of the Government and its agencies.

those five words at the end were unnecessary and uncalled for and show you as an emotional manipulator of gullible nigerians

hinwazaka:
The fraud unit of the police after discovering any financial impropriety would handover the case to the EFCC for forensic investigations because they are more equipped and are mandated by law to handle all financial crimes. Its the courts role to interpret what justifies as a crime against the security of the state but the role of the DSS to identify it.

This is from the website of the DSS
The operations of the State Security Service may arise out of tasking directed personally by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces; the National Defense and Security. Council; the National Security Adviser; the Intelligence Community Committee (ICC) or the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) subject to ratification by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed .Forces where considered necessary or desirable.

For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a Superior Police Officer in respect of searches and arrests.

The DSS under the law have far reaching powers. Everything the OP accused them of doing is under their jurisdiction.

AZeD1:

Dude enlighten yourself
https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/aboutus/statutory-roles
That's the DSS's website. For the benefit of those who can't access it,



The State Security Service is obligated by law to perform the following:

a. Prevention, detection and Investigation of:

i. Threat of espionage
ii. Threat of subversion
iii. Ehreat of sabotage
iv. Economic crimes of national security dimension
v. Terrorist activities
vi. Separatist agitations and inter-group conflicts
vii. Threats to law and order

b. Provision of protective security for designated principal government functionaries, sensitive installations and visiting foreign dignitaries;

c. vetting of:

i. prospective appointees to public offices:

ii. vital and sensitive corporate organizations before their incorporation in Nigeria, and continuous covert monitoring of their activities to ensure that they ate in line with national security interest: and

iii. Applicants for Nigerian International passports and Naturalization/Nigerian citizenship.

iv. provision of timely advice to Government on all •matters of national security interest; and

v. such other functions as may from time to time be • assigned by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

The operations of the State Security Service may arise out of tasking directed personally by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces; the National Defense and Security. Council; the National Security Adviser; the Intelligence Community Committee (ICC) or the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) subject to ratification by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed .Forces where considered necessary or desirable.

For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a Superior Police Officer in respect of searches and arrests.

The State Security Service is empowered to:

a) Maintain a watchlist action and travel control at the nation's land borders, sea ports and airports for the purpose of monitoring the movements of persons considered as risks to the security of the nation;

b) Impound and keep in its custody. the passports or any other property of persons or organizations under investigation if considered appropriate by the Director-General. Returns of all such Seizures shall be rendered to the National Security Adviser, while such passports shall be returned to the Owners as soon as the investigation is concluded.

RESPONSIBILITY

The State Security Service shall be charged with responsibility for:

a) The prevention and detection within Nigeria of any crime against the internal security of Nigeria:

b) The protection and preservation of all non-military classified matters concerning the internal security of Nigeria: and

c) Such other responsibilities affecting internal security within Nigeria as the National Assembly or the President: as the case may be: may deem necessary

Don't just browse, try and comprehend
Economic crimes of national security dimension is not discovery of foreign currencies and is not exactly the same as economic crimes as constituted to be against the law

zicoraads:
Of cos I know that, I also know that those bullet proof cars were not the primary reason they went into Dasuki's compound. See ehn, if the DSS wants to start arresting people with bullet proof cars and deeming it as 'national security threats'...dem go arrest plenty people.

My point here is, and let us be sincere, do you honestly and sincerely think the DSS went in primarily for those cars? Until I see what they termed 'national security threats', I am saying, they are just using the cars as a cover for goofing.

No but when a country is battling internal terrorism and the money spent cannot be justified then the NSA should be the number one suspect.

Mynd44:
1. Dasuki's case was one bordering on National security and they went with a warrant. It was during the search they discovered the cars. You might know (I don't think you know anyway) that to own a bulletproof car, you must have been cleared by all National security agencies including the DSS. So they were well within their constraints

2. Still Dasuki. They found on him high powered rifles which no one would have issued licence for. What is that, national security or what?

3. When oil marketers went on strike, the country was all but shut down. I think it is fair if we call our energy sector a national security one. In the USA, the FBI are called in issues of Economics that might threaten internal security or a cartel purposely hiking prices

4. Stop being a clown. When the DSS was used to escort electoral materials, you did not know you were also going to have them involved all through?

5. This is hilarious. The DSS can actually go into any crime scene they want and it is then their choice on whether to intervene or not. No arrests were made and they left them to their issues.

You people make this too easy

olodo in chief

hinwazaka:

Don't just browse, try and comprehend
Economic crimes of national security dimension is not discovery of foreign currencies and is not exactly the same as economic crimes as constituted to be against the law

What is 'Economic crimes of national security'?

Can you define that term? And with examples please.

hinwazaka:

Don't just browse, try and comprehend
Economic crimes of national security dimension is not discovery of foreign currencies and is not exactly the same as economic crimes as constituted to be against the law

Take that advice for yourself. The DSS went there with a warrant to search the premises on issues of national security. They got there and discovered the rest.

It is like the police going to conduct a search for illegal guns and finding illicit drugs.

Mynd44:

If you are talking of things like goods that do not amount to the economic security of the country yes.

Petrol refers to the economic security of Nigeria. It is not just an economic crime at this point, it relates to national security.

Petrol is a consumer good, period.

hinwazaka:

Petrol is a consumer good, period.

Yes it is but when importers refused to import it the economy came to a standstill. That is how important it is.

Petrol is not something like chocolate that can be overlooked.

hinwazaka:

Petrol is a consumer good, period.

Power installations and petroleum installations round the country are classified as critical assets.

AZeD1:

Power installations and petroleum installations round the country are classified as critical assets.

Including airports and other essential services.

Mynd44:
1. Dasuki's case was one bordering on National security and they went with a warrant. It was during the search they discovered the cars. You might know (I don't think you know anyway) that to own a bulletproof car, you must have been cleared by all National security agencies including the DSS. So they were well within their constraints

2. Still Dasuki. They found on him high powered rifles which no one would have issued licence for. What is that, national security or what?

3. When oil marketers went on strike, the country was all but shut down. I think it is fair if we call our energy sector a national security one. In the USA, the FBI are called in issues of Economics that might threaten internal security or a cartel purposely hiking prices

4. Stop being a clown. When the DSS was used to escort electoral materials, you did not know you were also going to have them involved all through?

5. This is hilarious. The DSS can actually go into any crime scene they want and it is then their choice on whether to intervene or not. No arrests were made and they left them to their issues.

You people make this too easy

Very weak and lame attempt at justifying the reasons the DSS sought to impede the works of the police, the EFCC etc when they should be gathering intelligence on boko haram. The DSS with its attempt at looking the other way gave boko haram the impetus to bomb the NE at will. We can all see the results of the inefficiency that has plagued DSS since Buhari took over.

AZeD1:

This is from the website of the DSS
The operations of the State Security Service may arise out of tasking directed personally by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces; the National Defense and Security. Council; the National Security Adviser; the Intelligence Community Committee (ICC) or the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) subject to ratification by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed .Forces where considered necessary or desirable.

For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a Superior Police Officer in respect of searches and arrests.

The DSS under the law have far reaching powers. Everything the OP accused them of doing is under their jurisdiction.

where in your writeup was any of the OP's claims disproved. The DSS is the superior police officer not the only police officer. We do not operate a totalitarian system of government. And again look up the word JURISDICTION. As I said earlier on read and comprehend

Mynd44:

1. No one said anyone cannot drive a bulletproof car, you must have a licence to do so. Is that so difficult? You want to. The cars are just something the found. You want to know why they were there, ask the judge that gave then the warrant to search the house

[size=13pt]Is it even conceivable that a National Security Adviser would not be granted a license to drive a bulletproof car? Does it make any sense?

Are we going to start questioning why the president himself is driving a bulletproof or bombproof car WITHOUT a license?

Who issues the license?

And why have they not charge him to court for being in possession of unauthorized items?

What is the status of the case now?

Has he successfully 'blackmailed' them by threatening to expose their 'involvements' in the insurgency or they really didn't find anything on him?
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AZeD1:

What is 'Economic crimes of national security'?

Can you define that term? And with examples please.

That is left to the interpretation of the court. The DSS should have asked their legal team for advice instead of rushing to please the president

AZeD1:

No but when a country is battling internal terrorism and the money spent cannot be justified then the NSA should be the number one suspect.

My point exactly. I am all for truth and accountability. If Dasuki has been found to have diverted monies meant for weapons and allowances of our soldiers, by all means haul him to Guatanamo Bay if possible. If the DSS had showed receipts and evidence of transactions that pointed to the fact that he used those monies for personal gain, I will sing their praises to the heavens.

When the news broke, and a friend of mine was screaming witch hunt, I told the friend to relax, that the DSS might be trying to get account of how we budgeted trillions for defence and our soldiers are still complaining of weapons and salaries.

And then I saw bullet proof cars being paraded...I hissed! Permit or not, if bullet proof cars are the reason they went after him, as they want us to believe, then am afraid they have nothing on him. Dasuki is a prince, he has money. He made a lot of money during IBB's regime. The man can afford hundred of those cars.

kliq:
Cheif E-Wailer how market na

Have it in mind that you have 7more years 10months left to wail...so do it sorfily sorfily so your wailing reservoir doesn't run dry

Wail-off


God bless Nigeria!

Dullardist on prowl

hinwazaka:
where in your writeup was any of the OP's claims disproved. The DSS is the superior police officer not the only police officer. We do not operate a totalitarian system of government. And again look up the word JURISDICTION. As I said earlier on read and comprehend

The JURISDICTION of the DSS is Nigeria.

Anything or anyone they feel is a threat to National security is under their jurisdiction.

zicoraads:
My point exactly. I am all for truth and accountability. If Dasuki has been found to have diverted monies meant for weapons and allowances of our soldiers, by all means haul him to Guatanamo Bay if possible. If the DSS had showed receipts and evidence of transactions that pointed to the fact that he used those monies for personal gain, I will sing their praises to the heavens.

When the news broke, and a friend of mine was screaming witch hunt, I told the friend to relax, that the DSS might be trying to get account of how we budgeted trillions for defence and our soldiers are still complaining of weapons and salaries.

And then I saw bullet proof cars being paraded...I hissed! Permit or not, if bullet proof cars are the reason they went after him, as they want us to believe, then am afraid they have nothing on him. Dasuki is a prince, he has money. He made a lot of money during IBB's regime. The man can afford hundred of those cars.

The DSS went with a search warrant, if Dasuki had cooperated, nobody would have known anything. The press conference was just to keep people from talking.
Dasuki as a former military man ans NSA is very well informed about the workings of the DSS, there are so many things behind the scenes that the DSS and Dasuki are not saying.

HzRF:

Dullardist on prowl

clueless wailer take heart man

hinwazaka:
The DSS's role is strictly limited to national security and nothing more. It can not be involved in economic or financial crimes
There is an agency assigned that duty(EFCC). It also has to be seen as been fair in the conduct of its duties. But unfortunately it appears to be keenly interested in matters that involve only the PDP. There are security situations in all parts of the nation so, one would expect the a national spread of its campaign, but alas it is only after PDP members or those that are rumoured to be affiliated with the PDP. We have to realise that when process is flouted, disorder and abuse will carry the day

I guess you didnt read the part where the PDP staff invited the DSS to interfer in its crisis against Metuh and NWC:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/08/im-open-dss-probe-metuh-tells-pdp-staff/

When it borders state or national security, DSS is mandated to act. For instance, if someone gets robbed as a citizen or his office gets robbed, this is police business, but if the president's son gets robbed or let's say APC or PDP office gets robbed, this is high profile and DSS is mandated to act immediately, especially if there is reason to believe that this is connected to a larger scheme that affects or may affect national security. In the case of Dasuki, DSS believed he was part of a scheme to hamper the war against insurgency and destabilize national security etc, many of the issues raised by Barcanista are actually pointless to generate serious attention