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Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:18pm On Aug 07, 2015
BabyDaddy20:
The only thing i learnt in this world is that you can't please everyone.
With what Barack Obama did for America he still has a lot of haters.

We knew how our military equipments were before Jonathan bought & sufficicated our war equipments.
How many did the last 3 presidents buy ??
Let's wait & see how many Buhari will buy.
Good one there @BabyDaddy20,

The Army cannot be fully equiped at once, but saying GEJ did nothing is false and those spreading this LIES and PROPAGANDA are not doing the present government any favour or good.

Let PMB follow -up where GEJ stopped wheither to continue from there is what we wait to see now or stil continue in "I WILL, I WILL"
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by millionaireman: 5:20pm On Aug 07, 2015
Nigeria has no enemy countries surrounding it. Nigeria is acquiring these arms to kill Nigerians. This is why foreign democratic countries are hesitant to sell arms to Nigeria.

A tiny minority that benefits from Nigeria acquires arms and ammunition only to confront any internal or secessionist threat against One Nigeria; instead of applying political measures to address internal problems of Nigeria.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by donvicky2007: 5:22pm On Aug 07, 2015
All this artilleries are good but they aren't new to my view cox everyone keep posting the same type of machines of our armed forces. Pls we need modernized weapons as African SuperPower not all this outdated machines used during the second world war.
#myopinion#
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by groovie(m): 5:22pm On Aug 07, 2015
Believe me, lack of information is doing more than 60% Nigerians lot of harm.
When u compare the military before gej and after gej u will know that there was conscious effort to make the military equipped. And its not that easy for a country like Nigeria to go around the US to purchase arms N.B (the US major export is arms before oil).

That's y there was the issue of black market. I will implore the apc supporters to try and credit gejs govt for the little he did while criticizing the wrong he did cos without knowing u will see the same mistakes been made in this govt too. We just want Nigeria to move forward. If you find anybody guilty of corruption let the person be punished.
No need for the talking everytime.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Icecomrade: 5:23pm On Aug 07, 2015
Why are people dragging this issue. The Nigerian army is yet to issue any statement debunking Dasuki's claim. Na wah o
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Xano(m): 5:26pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Its very disheartening how some people can go to any length to lie and twist whatever they hear from any source.

Not long ago, some group of people claiming that for COAS Alex Badeh said that Nigeria Army lack equipment, when in the real sense he was giving an account of about 30 year of active service in Nigeria Army.

Also this same people twist The former Security Adviser Sambo Dansuki statement that all Equipment contracted out are still to be deleievred.

Well to set the record staright.

Here is the account of Dansuki speech: http://www.ionigeria.com/how-jonathan-acquired-sophisticated-weapons-for-the-military-to-fight-terrorism-dasuki/

Dansuki not only state that because of the exigency of the election (to be peaceful) great number of these equipment are Airlifted into the field of war in the North East while the remaining large quantity are awaiting Shipment.


The result of this Airlifted Equipments and Armoured Tank become the game changer during this war before the General Election, hence the new tune then "NEVER AGAIN" .

Well to give more updates on this attached are the following images and videos.

1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxs_NVOuTk

2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR0AH-Md7U

3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz5dhnMG6E

4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kimbo5c0Ak

6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4PCeeY7tI


Well Nigerians, truth can only be twisted, but cannot be denied it will surely prevail.

Have a blessed day.
Thank you
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Xano(m): 5:27pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Truth is bitter,
When the NAF were busy rooting out this bastards, Some people were busy claiming, human right abuse.
Thank you
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by bankoleben(m): 5:30pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Is that all you can say
Is that all you can say to what I said? tongue
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:31pm On Aug 07, 2015
bankoleben:
Is that all you can say to what I said? tongue
Omo ti o ba ni iya oun ko ni sun..............

When double tongue is the order of the day, facts need to be set right
1. Zero air force to
2. Is this all Nigeria can afford to
3. GEJ did not buy anything to
4. small country can easily acquire this....
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nadheer15: 5:32pm On Aug 07, 2015
This OP is getting everything wrong, with all this hardwares, why did we lose more than 13,000lives? GEJ only woke up 6weeks to elections and that's when Nigeria acquired all this. Remember boko-are-rams menace started in 2009,even the documentary you presented was in 2015. If them born Vice News well, them for go Bornu State 2012 or 2013.

Buhari and APC were lamenting about GEJ's inability to tackle boko-are-rams until elections, that doesn't make sense. No doubt the Military hardwares were bought, but why 6 weeks to elections?! undecided
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by persius555(m): 5:33pm On Aug 07, 2015
OP, stop trying to defend the last administration . All the administrations before the last have their own share of the blame. The insurgency started heating up in 2012 after the election of GEJ. All through this time, GEJ treated teh boko haram crises like vengeance against his administration by the northern elites. He ignored the army all the while, ignoring to deal with the situation. Throughout this period, the budget spending on defence was over 7 billion dollars in the total 4 seven years excluding security votes dashed out to most nothern PDP governors in the name of fighting boko haram. This amount is 20 times more than that of uganda and chad, ethiopia . While the latter(most of their fighter jets were bought from russia) was acquiring generation fighter jets we were running after second hand value alpha jets. It took the kidnap of the chibok girls and the approaching general election for the administration to wake up to its responsibility. Before then tens of thousands of lives had been lost to GEJs indecisiveness.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:34pm On Aug 07, 2015
Nadheer15:
This OP is getting everything wrong, with all this hardwares, why did we lose more than 13,000lives? GEJ only woke up 6weeks to elections and that's when Nigeria acquired all this. Remember boko-are-rams menace started in 2009,even the documentary you presented was in 2015. If them born Vice News well, them for go Bornu State 2012 or 2013.

Buhari and APC were lamenting about GEJ's inability to tackle boko-are-rams until elections, that doesn't make sense. No doubt the Military hardwares were bought, but why 6 weeks to elections?! undecided
Here we go again. DID GEJ buy the hardwares is the question now

Going by your statement, then PMB and his entourage to Honeymoon in USA should have come back with USA sophisticated weapons
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nadheer15: 5:35pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Here we go again. DID GEJ buy the hardwares is the question now
Yes he did, but when did he buy them?
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by udemzyudex(m): 5:38pm On Aug 07, 2015
Mynd44:
One answer.....

My data, my device....


Now scream "hypocrisy" like the word is about to be deleted from the dictionary forever
Smh....


Wetin you Dey feel like these days?


Na only you be mod for here?


Haba, cos you get data and phone no mean say you go dey misbehave... You Dey act like woman these days....




Cool down..
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:40pm On Aug 07, 2015
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by bankoleben(m): 5:41pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Omo ti o ba ni iya oun ko ni sun..............

When double tongue is the order of the day, facts need to be set right
1. Zero air force to
2. Is this all Nigeria can afford to
3. GEJ did not buy anything to
4. small country can easily acquire this....
The problem was that the fight against Boko Haram dragged on for far too long. If Boko Haram was quashed early enough, no one would care to know if the military is ill-equipped or not.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by eleko1: 5:41pm On Aug 07, 2015
God bless U nd may ur Wisdom never turn to foolishness.Let those TANoids mercenary continue to deceive themselves/cook up lies.
BlackBaron:
Only people that don't know jack shite about the army would be mesmerized.

$2 billion was left and this is what you get?! Alpha jets and a bunch of MRAPS, tanks ?

Btw, some of the pics are unrelated to Nigeria.
Also those Ukranian tanks with the blue tarpaulin were never shipped to Nigeria cos they were converted for Ukranian use after their secession shite went down. Ask me if you want the video.

End of the day, this is far from impressive. I'll not deny Jo did a whole lot than the other governments involved but the acquisition was characterised by corrupt overpriced deals, so therefore we got less supplied for more money!
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by salam1(m): 5:42pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
It tells you that CHANGErians cannot fool every NIGERIANS, Never AGAIN
its ur pay masters dat v been fooling NIgerians for d past 16 yrs even a fool no PMB is doing his best. mr willing wailers
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:43pm On Aug 07, 2015
donvicky2007:
All this artilleries are good but they aren't new to my view cox everyone keep posting the same type of machines of our armed forces. Pls we need modernized weapons as African SuperPower not all this outdated machines used during the second world war.
#myopinion#
https://beegeagle./2015/02/05/first-photo-of-a-freshly-acquired-nigerian-army-bvp-m2skcz-armoured-infantry-fighting-vehicle-inside-an-antonov-an-225/
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 5:46pm On Aug 07, 2015
LordMecuzy:
I saw all of them Bro.... but not sufficient at all...
But, what was NAF like, before Jonathan took over?

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria placed orders for 9 MI-35M and 12 MI-171SH Helicopters.

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria received 2 up-graded MI-35 Helicopters from Ukraine.

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria Placed orders for 12 MI-35 Helicopters from Belarus.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria has received over 14 Light utility Helicopters.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria took delivery of 10 CH-3A drones from China. We are one of the very few countries to use armed Drones anywhere in the world.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria got 5 indigenous drones

- under Jonathan Nigeria got multiple tactical drones.


Under Jonathan, Nigeria has received or placed orders 59 Helicopters.


Again, what was the state of the Air Force before Jonathan?
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by eleko1: 5:46pm On Aug 07, 2015
Let them continue to defend corruption/indefensible.It is in them.
persius555:
OP, stop trying to defend the last administration . All the administrations before the last have their own share of the blame. The insurgency started heating up in 2012 after the election of GEJ. All through this time, GEJ treated teh boko haram crises like vengeance against his administration by the northern elites. He ignored the army all the while, ignoring to deal with the situation. Throughout this period, the budget spending on defence was over 7 billion dollars in the total 4 seven years excluding security votes dashed out to most nothern PDP governors in the name of fighting boko haram. This amount is 20 times more than that of uganda and chad, ethiopia . While the latter(most of their fighter jets were bought from russia) was acquiring generation fighter jets we were running after second hand value alpha jets. It took the kidnap of the chibok girls and the approaching general election for the administration to wake up to its responsibility. Before then tens of thousands of lives had been lost to GEJs indecisiveness.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:46pm On Aug 07, 2015
salam1:
its ur pay masters dat v been fooling NIgerians for d past 16 yrs even a fool no PMB is doing his best. mr willing wailers
https://www.naij.com/296963-spending-1bn-arms-12-helicopters-delivered-belarus.html
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 5:48pm On Aug 07, 2015
SO OF THIS PICS I SEE ARE FALSE, SOME ARE NOT NIGERIA MILITARY OR ENVIRONMENT angry

FOR GOD'S SAKE! YOU CAN'T FOOL MY EYES angry
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by realest247(m): 5:50pm On Aug 07, 2015
The truth shall remain forever while lie will surely fade away and guess what! Lies has wicked consequences.

GEJ is the Man. If other past Leaders. Has done half of what he was able to achieve in a short while, Nigeria would have been greater by now. But hate it or leave it, he has planted the seed of greatness for Us & Posterity shall judge him right for that. I'm 100% Sure
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by ayd91(m):
I find this thread very distasteful and Somewhat annoying... I have only met a handful of people as patriotic as I am let alone more patriotic that I am.
Patriotism however should NEVER blind us to the flaws of our nation lest we fail bitterly.
The acquisition of this birds may be celebrated in some quarters, its all good celebrate but not too long nor loud. Because the truth is we as a nation deserve more... A nation as rich in terms of resources and enemies, and important as Nigeria shouldn't have such a low grade airforce. Armed Super Pumas, Alpha jets, F7s... Good God, they may as well surrender our country in advance to a foreign power.

In the words of a wise man... Oga Beegs. "The time of peace is the best time to prepare for war". And Nigeria is far from ready for a conventional war.

Our biggest flaw is measuring our capabilities with the likes of Cameroon, Ghana, Togo, Mali and Co. I respect these countries but we are simply not in the same security class. Nigeria is a leading African Power House, we should be compared with power houses from other continents.

Our politicians have corrupted and crippled our military with the aid of their cronies.
If we don't realize that WE HAVE FALLEN, we wouldn't see the reason to rise... After all there is no wisdom in fixing what isn't broken.

All said acquisitions should be probbed... Truth is we were reaped off. #Sad reality.

Good Bless Nigeria.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:51pm On Aug 07, 2015
Henry120:
But, what was NAF like, before Jonathan took over?

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria placed orders for 9 MI-35M and 12 MI-171SH Helicopters.

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria received 2 up-graded MI-35 Helicopters from Ukraine.

-Under Jonathan, Nigeria Placed orders for 12 MI-35 Helicopters from Belarus.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria has received over 14 Light utility Helicopters.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria took delivery of 10 CH-3A drones from China. We are one of the very few countries to use armed Drones anywhere in the world.

- Under Jonathan Nigeria got 5 indigenous drones

- under Jonathan Nigeria got multiple tactical drones.


Under Jonathan, Nigeria has received or placed orders 59 Helicopters.


Again, what was the state of the Air Force before Jonathan?
Thanks for the undape @Oga Henry120, Still waiting for their answer. What they failed to understand is the basic point in your question (Before GEJ, what is the state of the Hardware and how many)
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by nijanigga: 5:53pm On Aug 07, 2015
how much they paid this propagandist?
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by dayo23(f):
engineerboat:
Noted, we are not there yet, but it must start somewhere, and that is what that past administration, the current PMB government need to follow-up where his predecessor stopped, not destroying all its effort at equipping the NA, NAF, NAF, NPF, DSS, and others. Thanks you
though we are opposition but I agree with u but the question is why did it GEJ long to buy weapons, why wait till 6weeks to election
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by MabraO: 5:54pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Its very disheartening how some people can go to any length to lie and twist whatever they hear from any source.

Not long ago, some group of people claiming that for COAS Alex Badeh said that Nigeria Army lack equipment, when in the real sense he was giving an account of about 30 year of active service in Nigeria Army.

Also this same people twist The former Security Adviser Sambo Dansuki statement that all Equipment contracted out are still to be deleievred.

Well to set the record staright.

Here is the account of Dansuki speech: http://www.ionigeria.com/how-jonathan-acquired-sophisticated-weapons-for-the-military-to-fight-terrorism-dasuki/

Dansuki not only state that because of the exigency of the election (to be peaceful) great number of these equipment are Airlifted into the field of war in the North East while the remaining large quantity are awaiting Shipment.


The result of this Airlifted Equipments and Armoured Tank become the game changer during this war before the General Election, hence the new tune then "NEVER AGAIN" .

Well to give more updates on this attached are the following images and videos.

1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxs_NVOuTk

2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR0AH-Md7U

3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz5dhnMG6E

4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kimbo5c0Ak

6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4PCeeY7tI


Well Nigerians, truth can only be twisted, but cannot be denied it will surely prevail.

Have a blessed day.
Op wen u guys twisted buhari's statement nko?

Wen PMB was in d US journalists were asking him questions simultaneously nd he said one after d other there re limits to my brain can carry nd some many more statements of his that u guys have twisted just for ur own benefit
Abeg park well jare

Well for DAsuki dat man na bloody liar
Imagine he said if he had brought all d weapons he incurred during d election period it would ve ended in d hands of Boko haram dat was y d election was peaceful
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 5:55pm On Aug 07, 2015
ayd91:
I find this thread very distasteful and Somewhat annoying... I have only met a handful of people as patriotic as I am let alone more patriotic that I am.
Patriotism however should NEVER blind us to the flaws of our nation lest we fail bitterly.
The acquisition of this birds may be celebrated in some quarters, its all good celebrate but not too long nor loud. Because the truth is we as a nation deserve more... A nation as rich in terms of resources and enemies, and important as Nigeria shouldn't have such a low grade airforce. Armed Super Pumas, Alpha jets, F7s... Good God, they may as well surrender our country in advance to a foreign power.

In the words of a wise man... Oga Beegs. "The time of peace is the best time to prepare for war". And Nigeria is far from ready for a conventional war.

Our biggest flaw is measuring our capabilities with the likes of Cameroon, Ghana, Togo, Mali and Co. I respect these countries but we are simply not in the same security class. Nigeria is a leading African Power House, we should be compared with power houses from other continents.

Our politicians have corrupted and crippled our military with the aid of their cronies.
The sooner we realize that WE HAVEN'T FALLEN, we wouldn't see the reason to rise... After all there is no wisdom in fixing what isn't broken.

All said acquisitions should be problem... Truth is we were reaped off. #Sad reality.

Good Bless Nigeria.
Agreed, we are not there yet, but we need to start somewhere and that is the truth.

Everything about Military hardware involve
1. Training
2. Government policy and finance
3. International relation and Policy
4. Purpose of buying and exigency

all this put together matters and must go hand in hand.
Thanks
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by ayd91(m): 6:00pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
When they say Nigeria Airforce is Zero
Your posts hints to the fact that your somehow affiliated to Beegeagle's Blog... If that's true then I do say you haven't lived up to the set standards.

You're right that we do not have a zero airforce... But the question is "are we were we should be?" obviously not this is a far cry from were we should be. The equipment the airforce operates gives Nigeria a bad. Our boys are trying their best... But we need them well armed.
I wonder what you'd say tomorrow if Chad decided to declare war against Nigeria... The airforce is capable of defending our sovereignty? No sir. Our air security must be stepped up. Anything less is treason.
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