dopeJemi:


It's no news that chelsea is known for killing careers, i'm not trying to insult the club's status or anything but it is a fact that is glaring

But y'all are still a good team

This is why everyone is attacking you. This beer parlour "Chelsea Bad Luck" and "Killing Career" sh1t you continue to spew.
Kill careers like Lampard's? Drogba's? Terry's? Ashley Cole's? Makalele's ?

nateevs:


This is why everyone is attacking you. This beer parlour "Chelsea Bad Luck" and "Killing Career" sh1t you continue to spew.
Kill careers like Lampard's? Drogba's? Terry's? Ashley Cole's? Makalele's ?

Call it sh1t or whatever you like man, torres, salah, cuadrado, Shevchenko, even moses who was a beast at wigan


And why did you mention ancient players? Did I even say y'all kill every player's career that come to the club?

Most of those players you mentioned are more like home grown even though some of them aren't

good night .

dopeJemi:


Call it sh1t or whatever you like man, torres, salah, cuadrado, Shevchenko, even moses who was a beast at wigan


And why did you mention ancient players? Did I even say y'all kill every player's career that come to the club?

Most of those players you mentioned are more like home grown even though some of them aren't

So what is the point if you are not actually saying "kill every player's career"? What is the fvcking point?

Did United kill Anderson's Career? Di Maria's? Falcao's? Zaha's? Kagawa's?, Luke Shaw's? Tosic's? . . Need I go on?


So now I am calling ancient. Perhaps we are kiliing the careers of Hazard, Cortouis, Matic, Fabregas, Cahill, Costa, Willian. Their careers must really be dying.

Onisokuso.

nateevs:



So what is the point if you are not actually saying "kill every player's career"? What is the fvcking point?

Did United kill Anderson's Career? Di Maria's? Falcao's? Zaha's? Kagawa's?, Luke Shaw's? Tosic's? . . Need I go on?


So now I am calling ancient. Perhaps we are kiliing the careers of Hazard, Cortouis, Matic, Fabregas, Cahill, Costa, Willian. Their careers must really be dying.

Onisokuso.

Lol, we killed falcao's career? Funny, his career was already hitting the rocks before he came to united, why do you think he was loaned? Falcao of atletico madrid would never be loaned

Kagawa, Zaha, Di maria are the only players that didn't perform when they arrived, Tosic was a very young player who never got the chance when ferguson was on sit and believe me, that kid showed real promise, I was really angry when we sold him... still wondering how shaw's career has been killed when clearly the player himself said he wasn't fit before he moved to united, now go watch clips of shaw's performances in our tour

It's no news that chelsea are known for killing the careers of players more than any other top club in England, this is what I said


No need for name calling man, it's just my honest opinion that seems objective to most rival fans

Salah did not play badly for Chelsea except one or two games, which when you only get 15 mins every 3 months make it look bad. No, he looked a threat most times he played for the Chels.

Who is horrible is Cuadrado. His own is a different grade of horrible

Ibime:
Salah did not play badly for Chelsea except one or two games, which when you only get 15 mins every 3 months make it look bad. No, he looked a threat most times he played for the Chels.

Who is horrible is Cuadrado. His own is a different grade of horrible

I think y'all should have really given him the chance to perform, that guy is good, a glimpse of which he showed against chelsea


I read that cuadrado was one of the best players for Colombia in the last world cup

dopeJemi:


I think y'all should have really given him the chance to perform, that guy is good, a glimpse of which he showed against chelsea


I read that cuadrado was one of the best players for Colombia in the last world cup

he was even coogar was praying United get him.
It's unfortunate it looks like he will not make it here.

chrisley024:
he was even coogar was praying United get him.
It's unfortunate it looks like he will not make it here.

And united were in for him, right?

dopeJemi:


And united were in for him, right?

Nope! for wetin na?

SailorXY:

Nope! for wetin na?

I thought we were in for him, I remember some of us analysing how he'd be used as a RWB if he comes

Every Pundit in England is going for Chelsea as EPL champs......
M sure if another manager was in charge of this current squad,We wouldn't be seen as the favourite.......
If we were four points away in his First year with that horrible squad,then we surely can win it again.....

Depth is a big issue...... Let's just hope Moses or Oscar or even Bertrand comes big.....

We are one tackle from 1st to 3rd......One tackle on Hazard or fabregas, that's all.......Costa doesn't need to be tackled,the annoyed Brazilian witches are doing that well

bigkesh:
Every Pundit in England is going for Chelsea as EPL champs......
M sure if another manager was in charge of this current squad,We wouldn't be seen as the favourite.......
If we were four points away in his First year with that horrible squad,then we surely can win it again.....

Depth is a big issue...... Let's just hope Moses or Oscar or even Bertrand comes big.....

We are one tackle from 1st to 3rd......One tackle on Hazard or fabregas, that's all.......Costa doesn't need to be tackled,the annoyed Brazilian witches are doing that well

lol, brazillian witches

bigkesh:
Every Pundit in England is going for Chelsea as EPL champs......
M sure if another manager was in charge of this current squad,We wouldn't be seen as the favourite.......
If we were four points away in his First year with that horrible squad,then we surely can win it again.....

Depth is a big issue...... Let's just hope Moses or Oscar or even Bertrand comes big.....

We are one tackle from 1st to 3rd......One tackle on Hazard or fabregas, that's all.......Costa doesn't need to be tackled,the annoyed Brazilian witches are doing that well

Actually...Skysports had Arsenal overwhelming favourites to win the league. 67% in an online poll published this morning.

bigkesh:
Every Pundit in England is going for Chelsea as EPL champs......
M sure if another manager was in charge of this current squad,We wouldn't be seen as the favourite.......
If we were four points away in his First year with that horrible squad,then we surely can win it again.....

Depth is a big issue...... Let's just hope Moses or Oscar or even Bertrand comes big.....

We are one tackle from 1st to 3rd......One tackle on Hazard or fabregas, that's all.......Costa doesn't need to be tackled,the annoyed Brazilian witches are doing that well

On Point.

Nihilist:


Actually...Skysports had Arsenal overwhelming favourites to win the league. 67% in an online poll published this morning.

M not surprised at all

When it comes to online polls,You just can't defeat Arsenal.......Arsenal fans are poll loving jerks....
Imagine bellerin winning a poll to replace Alves at Barca months back......
Sanchez won the best player on twitter polls
Arsenal fans are known for polls on twitter,they win every poll

How do u explain this? Clearly strategic voting

bigkesh:
M not surprised at all

When it comes to online polls,You just can't defeat Arsenal.......Arsenal fans are poll loving jerks....
Imagine bellerin winning a poll to replace Alves at Barca months back......
Sanchez won the best player on twitter polls
Arsenal fans are known for polls on twitter,they win every poll

How do u explain this? Clearly strategic voting

So these are Hazards competition in the EPL attacking midfielder position

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2716792_cgwlfqcw8aaelx_jpgsmall_jpeg_jpeg72c653b1234da450d7570d30da901e44

raumdeuter:


So these are Hazards competition in the EPL attacking midfielder position

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2716792_cgwlfqcw8aaelx_jpgsmall_jpeg_jpeg72c653b1234da450d7570d30da901e44

Dayo don't you get tired?

nateevs:

Dayo don't you get tired?

O re mi ti, afi bi eshin

Spy360:
Brilliant thoughts, but... Your opinion of 'parking the bus' stemed from Mou's assessment. It's a normal thing for one to defend after taking the lead and wait to counter.

Parking the bus is defending with ten men at 0-0 and that is Mou's philosophy. The only time we parked the bus was at Etihad.

My opinion doesn't stem from Jose's assertion.

The way I see it, when you throw many bodies behind the ball, defending with nearly your entire team, allowing the other team possession in exchange for occupying almost all available space in your defensive third and hitting counter attacks, you're simply parking the goddamn bus.

But then again, I was impressed with the way you lot carried it out - a sexy parking the bus

AirborneLacer:


My opinion doesn't stem from Jose's assertion.

The way I see it, when you throw many bodies behind the ball, defending with nearly your entire team, allowing the other team possession in exchange for occupying almost all available space in your defensive third and hitting counter attacks, you're simply parking the goddamn bus.

But then again, I was impressed with the way you lot carried it out - a sexy parking the bus

May be you are right, I thought parking the bus was defending at 0-0.

Hahahaa, I like that sexy parking the bus.

Like you meet a lady, you say 'babe common don't park the bus for me na' OR
'oh babe I like the way you park the bus'.

Hehehheee

Isn't football a funny sport? Just last season we were all clamoring for the youths to be given game time. Now that it seems like the club aren't interested in splurging in the market and look hell bent on integrating some lads, we are back to singing the tone of the market - ''the strengthen the team'' mantra.

Although I'm also guilty of this act, I think if JM believes he has a squad that can challenge in Europe and still defend the EPL, it is best we allow him do his job.

Yes, the team have got couple of loopholes, but the big question remains, is the manager worried as much as we are?

If he believes he can manage those loopholes well, then it makes little or no sense we the fans cussing the management, players and fans who support the management. The ball is freaking spinning in Jose's court, not ours.

If the man has got a gun pointed at him and is acting under duress, then I must say we're in trouble. The real business starts tomorrow, and just like FBS rightly said, we are Chelsea and sure know how to shrug off our pre-season dog-tired performances.

I would love to see this line-up tomorrow:

Courtois

Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpilicueta

Matic Fabregas

Willian Oscar Hazard

Remy

I saw few of our pre-season games, and I must say, bar Hazard, Terry, Matic, Fabregas and Ivanovic who are guaranteed starters, the rest of the lads in my line up didn't do too bad.

Spy360:
May be you are right, I thought parking the bus was defending at 0-0.

Hahahaa, I like that sexy parking the bus.

Like you meet a lady, you say 'babe common don't park the bus for me na' OR
'oh babe I like the way you park the bus'.

Hehehheee

Hehehe

Parking the bus isn't just defending at 0-0, you can park-the-goddamn-bus whilst winning. Remember Jose's Champions league winning Inter Milan? They were good at it.

They would park trailers even when they're thrashing you, what could be more annoying?

Objective smart view.

It was quite sweet of Rio Ferdinand to put in a word for his old club as John Stones makes up his mind about what to do with his future but was it good advice?

Would Everton’s England international centre-half really be a lunatic to choose Chelsea over Manchester United?

Assuming the 21-year-old is minded to make a move at this stage of his career, Chelsea appear willing to pay £30m or more for his services. That is the least Everton would demand, and given the player’s age, potential, pedigree and the general shortage of capable central defenders around at the moment that is what Stones is worth.

So we are not talking about a squad signing here, someone to cover for injuries or raise the quota of English players at the Stamford Bridge. Not even Chelsea would pay that sort of money for a fringe player, which is what Ferdinand seems to imagine may happen.
José Mourinho cools talk of John Stones deal, and takes swipe at Arsène Wenger
Read more

Yes, as he is essentially being earmarked as a long-term replacement for John Terry the defender may find himself being introduced gradually into the side but that tends to be the reality for promising young players making the step up from domestic league to Champions League bracket. Stones has never played in European club football’s premier competition before, so it would be rash to promise him a regular berth in the team and ask him to run before he can walk.

José Mourinho probably estimates Stones is good enough to play Champions League football but would use this season as a transitional period to let the player adapt at his own pace, perhaps to learn from Terry’s experience and let the Chelsea captain – who’s coming up to 35 – take the occasional Premier League break. There is nothing wrong with that. It could be described as sensible planning.

Chelsea may not need Stones right now but they will certainly be needing him in the near future, and a season or so to settle in and get ready to step up to a higher level seems reasonable.

To turn Ferdinand’s pro-United argument on its head, what does it say about a Champions League club that can promise a regular start straight away to a player who has only just established himself at senior level with Everton and has a mere handful of international appearances under his belt?

Are United desperate or something? Ferdinand himself seems to suggest they may be.

“I don’t think Louis van Gaal knows his best defence, that’s a problem in itself,” the former England captain admitted. “They don’t know if Chris Smalling is going to be fit, or Phil Jones, Jonny Evans or Marcos Rojo, so how can you build relationships?”

Quite. No further questions.

Chelsea have the tightest, meanest, best-organised defence in the country, whereas United are still a bit all over the place. It may be easier for Stones to displace Jones or Smalling, say, at United, than Terry or Gary Cahill at Chelsea but if you are genuinely ambitious which path would you choose? Chelsea are the Premier League champions and one of the few English clubs that can usually be relied upon to make progress in the Champions League, and they were the first to identify Stones as a target. Everton might have been miffed but Stones could only be flattered.

The two Manchester clubs made their interest known afterwards, rather as if Van Gaal and Manuel Pellegrini had been startled during pre-season to realise that Jones and Martín Demichelis were not only still around but not really keeping anyone better out of the team.

Ferdinand was not the only former player giving his opinion of the new United before the start of the season. Step forward Roy Keane, who thought Chelsea would again be the team to beat because they have the best spine, and if they land Stones as well they would be even stronger.

“If I was a betting man, which I’m not, I’d still go with Chelsea,” Keane said, while adding that United had bought a lot of players all at once and may find they need time to gel.

“A bit like the late 80s,” he said, referring to the time when United had a good manager in place and a decent amount of money to spend but still found it hard to turn an expensive collection of talents into a winning team.

That takes time. Fergie cracked it eventually but by his own admission the first few trophy-free years were nerve-racking.

Van Gaal is not quite in the same position. He seems to have been given carte blanche to bring some glamour back to United whatever the cost and the trophy return but time is the one thing he cannot promise.

He has just announced his intention to retire in 2017 and, although managers are notorious for going back on their word and staying for one or two seasons longer, it seems clear that Van Gaal’s period at Old Trafford will be more of a bridge to the future than the future itself.

Fair enough, perhaps Mourinho is not as secure as he looks at Chelsea either.

Anything can happen in football and, a few years down the line, Chelsea could be under new management and not looking such a steady ship.

But the decision Stones needs to make is now, or in the very near future, not two years down the line. Ferdinand’s intentions are no doubt admirable but he seems to be confusing the present Manchester United with the monolithic institution he joined in the middle of the process of piling up 13 titles under the same manager.

United won the title in Ferdinand’s first season at Old Trafford. Success was more or less guaranteed. Saying no to the club in 2002 would have been as daft as turning down a move to Liverpool 20 years earlier.

Chelsea are not at that level of domination yet, though neither is anyone else. All a player can ultimately do is weigh up the situation at the moment and try to make an informed decision on how things may go in the future. Not only are Chelsea and their manager proven winners, the last time Mourinho quit the club he left a team and a gameplan so strong they continued to win major prizes in his absence.

Not even Sir Alex Ferguson can make that boast.

Manchester United will always have an allure of their own, and it could even be that Stones prefers to stay in the north of England, though anyone lucky enough to be in his position, trying to make a purely football-based decision would be daft to be dismissive of Chelsea.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/05/john-stones-would-be-daft-to-dismiss-chelsea

I was informed that Chelsea have a trophy already. That Chelsea made mincemeat of Arsenal at this season's Community Shield.

Abi no be so? I have been living in da jungle ni oo. I know zilch. Who WON?

Hello, my people

AirborneLacer:
Isn't football a funny sport? Just last season we were all clamoring for the youths to be given game time. Now that it seems like the club aren't interested in splurging in the market and look hell bent on integrating some lads, we are back to singing the tone of the market - ''the strengthen the team'' mantra.

Although I'm also guilty of this act, I think if JM believes he has a squad that can challenge in Europe and still defend the EPL, it is best we allow him do his job.

Yes, the team have got couple of loopholes, but the big question remains, is the manager worried as much as we are?

If he believes he can manage those loopholes well, then it makes little or no sense we the fans cussing the management, players and fans who support the management. The ball is freaking spinning in Jose's court, not ours.

If the man has got a gun pointed at him and is acting under duress, then I must say we're in trouble. The real business starts tomorrow, and just like FBS rightly said, we are Chelsea and sure know how to shrug off our pre-season dog-tired performances.

I would love to see this line-up tomorrow:

Courtois

Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpilicueta

Matic Fabregas

Willian Oscar Hazard

Remy

I saw few of our pre-season games, and I must say, bar Hazard, Terry, Matic, Fabregas and Ivanovic who are guaranteed starters, the rest of the lads in my line up didn't do too bad.

Which of the youth players are they trying to integrate??
Ramirez and Mikel are still blue,how will cheek and colkett play? Boga won't play, Musonda?
If we are selling the idiots and not buying the same quantity, then we can think of integration.....
I can give two different lineups from Midfield to attack without a single youth player....No space for them,the deadwoods are occupying the space

bigkesh:


Which of the youth players are they trying to integrate??
Ramirez and Mikel are still blue,how will cheek and colkett play? Boga won't play, Musonda?
If we are selling the idiots and not buying the same quantity, then we can think of integration.....
I can give two different lineups from Midfield to attack without a single youth player....No space for them,the deadwoods are occupying the space

Thank you very much my friend. I was just about to quote Lacer's post.
Which youth is being integrated?

We could have played Colkett/RLC (despite his laziness) instead of Ramires on Sunday.
Traore could have featured.

In pre-season games, how many youth players played after the first game?
Why didn't Jose put an arm around Bamford instead of telling the world how he intends to resuscitate the apparently dead Falcao?


When it comes to youth integration, Jose only talks the talk still.

AirborneLacer:
Objective smart view.



http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/05/john-stones-would-be-daft-to-dismiss-chelsea

all the epistle for John 'fvckin' Stones? Who even said United is interested? Chelshit has had two bids knocked back by Everton, non of United's beeswax!

bigkesh:


Which of the youth players are they trying to integrate??
Ramirez and Mikel are still blue,how will cheek and colkett play? Boga won't play, Musonda?
If we are selling the idiots and not buying the same quantity, then we can think of integration.....
I can give two different lineups from Midfield to attack without a single youth player....No space for them,the deadwoods are occupying the space

Correct talk. I have said it, Chelsea only needs 17 senior players and rest youth. . . as long as those senior players contribute rather than marking space.

Instead you have 23 players. . . the bulk of them are the useless Mikel, Ramires, Cuadrados of this world just blocking space.

Woah! The Blues have got themselves a group thread? Nice! Really nice.. But I was wondering if there is also a "Manchester City" group thread. I am a fan, and I need to check in. Anyone knows where I can find one?

bigkesh:


Which of the youth players are they trying to integrate??
Ramirez and Mikel are still blue,how will cheek and colkett play? Boga won't play, Musonda?
If we are selling the idiots and not buying the same quantity, then we can think of integration.....
I can give two different lineups from Midfield to attack without a single youth player....No space for them,the deadwoods are occupying the space

We couldn't bring in a 'top' back-up forward because we felt Bamford has a future with the club. So the Idea was to pen down a short time plan with Falcao.

We are wasting time bringing in a top central midfielder not just because Mikel and Ramires are around but because we are monitoring Loftus' progress.

Bertrand Traore just got recalled and Jose is already talking about using him as a back-up Lb (more like a joke meant for Christmas).

And these are positions where urgent attention are quite needed. In a way, integrating the young fellas has got us gawking in the market.