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Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by realest247(m): 6:00pm On Aug 07, 2015
udemzyudex:
Smh....


Wetin you Dey feel like these days?


Na only you be mod for here?


Haba, cos you get data and phone no mean say you go dey misbehave... You Dey act like woman these days....




Cool down..
Abeg tell am o!!! His stupidity is growing faster than expected.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:00pm On Aug 07, 2015
bankoleben:
The game changer before the election was the hiring of South African mercenaries and not necessarily the purchase of new arms.
GEJ had over four years to equip the military, why wait till six weeks before election?
Sharrapp you fvcking Idiiot, can you point out the South African "mercenaries" Jonathan hired, which were the "game changer"?


For the avoidance of doubt, there has been and still is no evidence that Nigeria hired "mercenaries" who "changed the game" for us. Colonel Eeben Barlow the chairman of sttep and a regular beegeagles blogger has refuted this ridiculous claim on many occasions.


All missions were carried out primarily by the Nigerian Army, led by the Nigerian Army MSF.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:01pm On Aug 07, 2015
This has got to be the dumbest thread on Nairaland. Shame it's on the front page.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by jorel1(m): 6:02pm On Aug 07, 2015
Thou Shall not kill
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by emerged01(m): 6:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
I think some people misunderstood president. we are all seeing pictures,are these weapons working effectively? I think the president, a general knows what he is saying when he said Nigeria air force is zero. who am I to say all these are weapons when a general said they are not, comparing with what should be on ground.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 6:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
ayd91:
Your posts hints to the fact that your somehow affiliated to Beegeagle's Blog... If that's true then I do say you haven't lived up to the set standards.

You're right that we do not have a zero airforce... But the question is "are we were we should be?" obviously not this is a far cry from were we should be. The equipment the airforce operates gives Nigeria a bad. Our boys are trying their best... But we need them well armed.
I wonder what you'd say tomorrow if Chad decided to declare war against Nigeria... The airforce is capable of defending our sovereignty? No sir. Our air security must be stepped up. Anything less is treason.
Agreed that we are not there yet, something must be done.
It is high time we stop blame game in this country, it should be "WHATSOEVER THY HAND FIND TO DO, DO IT WITH ALL THY MIGHT"

why would a government keep doing this "beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Adminisher: 6:08pm On Aug 07, 2015
These pictures 're indicting if this is all they want to show as procurement for all the money spent. The OP should be very careful. The state of the Nigerian Army and Nigeria Airforce is disgraceful. If the OP claims to know military affairs he would agree . All these pictures of twenty year old equipment actually indict the last administration more than any critic. Also it is instructive to remember that Dasuki and Badeh actually contradicted themselves, one said he was given enough money to buy weapons whilst the other said he was denied funds. All these also reinforce the negative view about Good luck Jonathan , a very incompetent commander in chief.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by udemzyudex(m): 6:08pm On Aug 07, 2015
realest247:
Abeg tell am o!!! His stupidity is growing faster than expected.
I believe say him don read my post.... grin
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:08pm On Aug 07, 2015
This is nothing to he honest. in comparison to even south Africa
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by engineerboat(op): 6:09pm On Aug 07, 2015
Henry120:
Sharrapp you fvcking Idiiot, can you point out the South African "mercenaries" Jonathan hired, which was the game changer?


For the avoidance of doubt, there has been and still is no evidence that Nigeria hired "mercenaries" who "changed the game" for us. Colonel Eeben Barlow the chairman of sttep and a regular beegeagles blogger has refuted this ridiculous claim on many occasions.


All missions were carried out primarily by the Nigerian Army, led by the Nigerian Army MSF.
He need to read it.
https://beegeagle./2015/05/14/south-african-mercenaries-and-nigeria-chairman-of-sttep-colonel-eeben-barlow-speaks-to-the-beegeagles-blog-community-on-on-pervasive-false-narratives/
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by publisherz: 6:09pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat

why are you including the picture of a Russian Tank convoy in Georgia?
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Dexmars(m): 6:14pm On Aug 07, 2015
If one AK 47 can stop terrorism, why do we need all the outdated hardware.

It is not about who failed Nigeria but for us to come together and stop this madness called Book haram.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by ayd91(m): 6:15pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Agreed that we are not there yet, something must be done.
It is high time we stop blame game in this country, it should be "WHATSOEVER THY HAND FIND TO DO, DO IT WITH ALL THY MIGHT"

why would a government keep doing this "beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
I understand where you are coming from but I don't want my countrymen reading this and feeling secure when in fact they are not. All that's needed is a determined enemy and our lapses would be exposed. Nigeria must progress.

When WW lll comes up we may not be given the privilege of being non-allined. We should live up to our name. NIGERIA.

I OBJ and other passed leaders had invested in the military like GEJ did we wouldn't have this problem today. So before another regime has to be forced by a prevailing condition like a conventional war, let's be prepared now.
I hope Buhari can deliver where necessary. #never_again #arm_up #go_east
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by kazmanbanjoko(m): 6:16pm On Aug 07, 2015
Guns and roses.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:20pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Thanks for the undape @Oga Henry120, Still waiting for their answer. What they failed to understand is the basic point in your question (Before GEJ, what is the state of the Hardware and how many)
They like to paint the government of President GEJ as corrupt and incompetent, however, on every occasion, they seem to always develop some sort of acute amnesia which allows they forget what was on ground before the GEJ government.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nadheer15: 6:22pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Here we go again. DID GEJ buy the hardwares is the question now

Going by your statement, then PMB and his entourage to Honeymoon in USA should have come back with USA sophisticated weapons
After modifying your post. Not honeymoon, the US has promised to help Nigeria, PMB has even said Nigeria is going to start it's own weapons production and this would have a lot of US influence. The final is GEJ failed, why wait till over 13,000 people die?!
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by bankoleben(m): 6:25pm On Aug 07, 2015
Henry120:
Sharrapp you fvcking Idiiot, can you point out the South African "mercenaries" Jonathan hired, which were the "game changer"?


For the avoidance of doubt, there has been and still is no evidence that Nigeria hired "mercenaries" who "changed the game" for us. Colonel Eeben Barlow the chairman of sttep and a regular beegeagles blogger has refuted this ridiculous claim on many occasions.


All missions were carried out primarily by the Nigerian Army, led by the Nigerian Army MSF.
Maybe when you learn to respond to posts without throwing tantrums like a kid, you'll earn a response.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Kappa101: 6:26pm On Aug 07, 2015
Nice post, but I really must say that most of those Pics aren't of Nigerian Army nor their artillery.
Pics depicting Sophisticated weaponry aren't Nigerian especially d ones showing cargo airplane delivering weapons.
Your boss shouldn't pay you in full cos you've been caught

Tip: You should apply a bit of photoshopping to produce near-flawless pics AND edit or delete each image's EXIF to do away with their original links and details before uploading. (Frustrating and time consuming it sometimes seems, but it's necessary to complement a make believe story).
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:27pm On Aug 07, 2015
if i havent gone blind I saw a fleet of alpha jets In one of the pictures and bokoharam is still having a field day. I mean with those fleet of jets we don't even need a ground force just point & kill with missiles.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by ghenghen23(m): 6:28pm On Aug 07, 2015
Op, at what cost did they acquire these outdated weapons? The 1st 4 pictures look like leased weapons because they are operated by foreigners by the look of things( if memory serves me correctly, mercenaries were hired and they left with their equipments on completion of their duty).
From the look of things it was just a show of force exercise to give the impression that the army was well equipped and funded to curb the bk menace.
I still do not understand the need to exonerate the immediate past administration of its shortcomings in the defence sector.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:32pm On Aug 07, 2015
That NSA Dasuki should be shot by a firing squad. with all the money expended for the procurement of hardware & the loan taken to buy military grade weapons it was these archaic weapons he could procure. Hell America can even wipe out bokoharam for us with the aircraft & artillery they have in their museums cos it would be more effective cos those weapons in their museums are more sophisticated than this piece of shit this Op posted and is making a lot of noise about.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by PassingShot(m): 6:38pm On Aug 07, 2015
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Whynotthetruth:
gringringrin Imagine what hypocrisy and lies does to a people...

Since when did the word; "ZERO" equal tangible number irrespective of how negligiblehuh...

Buhari and APC lied...His supporters keep lying...and this is to go on for how long?...Why not open a thread and show us what it was before Jonathan plundered or brought them to where they are now?...Why not go through Badeh speech that your folks are twisting and take up buhari's too and then Dasuki's...and you will see what a liar without shame even at old age that buhari is...though worshipped like god by supporters...
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Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by PassingShot(m): 6:39pm On Aug 07, 2015
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Whynotthetruth:
What was NAF like for a country like Nigeria before Jonathan became presidenthuh
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Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by PassingShot(m): 6:41pm On Aug 07, 2015
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Whynotthetruth:
Yes...now as an informed man, ZERO equals to a tangible number notwithstanding how negligible in your communityhuh
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Virtually non existent is not same as zero, eediot.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:41pm On Aug 07, 2015
What pains me the most is the number of brave soldiers we have lost on the war front just to combat these infidels. when the soldiers were complaining and writing open letters to newspapers and blogs about the lack of necessary weapons & proper welfare to combat bokoharam what did Johnathan the commander in chief then do about these letters Nothing.Instead these soldiers were put on fake trials and sentenced to death for their God given rights. Its only some few weeks to the end of elections he ever remembered to visit the North and see how these soldiers are doing. Now who is decieving who and some blind idiots are still singing his praises to the high heavens. Nonsense.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by 989900: 6:44pm On Aug 07, 2015
BlackBaron:
Only people that don't know jack shite about the army would be mesmerized.

$2 billion was left and this is what you get?! Alpha jets and a bunch of MRAPS, tanks ?

Btw, some of the pics are unrelated to Nigeria.
Also those Ukranian tanks with the blue tarpaulin were never shipped to Nigeria cos they were converted for Ukranian use after their secession shite went down. Ask me if you want the video.

End of the day, this is far from impressive. I'll not deny Jo did a whole lot than the other governments involved but the acquisition was characterised by corrupt overpriced deals, so therefore we got less supplied for more money!

Thank you.
OTOH, the rot started from IBB.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nobody: 6:50pm On Aug 07, 2015
The reason why Obasanjo & Yaradua didn't send much cash on defence was because there really was no war to fight. Obasanjo had a war free tenure and the only problem the late president Musa Yaardua (may his soul rest in peace) was the Niger Delta militants of which he dealt with tactfully. Johnathan even had the guts to say "Bokoharam are our brothers" that's why we can't just wipe them like that. Imagine height of cluelessness. Now why would America and other countries have even helped him when his administration was stinking of pungent corruption. His Generals and Defense chiefs were feeding fat on defense budget and he did nothing to them.
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by BraniacX(m): 6:51pm On Aug 07, 2015
espn:
with how rich Nigeria is..is dis what the likes of Egypt..Iran..Pakistan..Turkey..China..UK..USA...Germany..North korea..Russia..South korea..India use? And u r here up loading nonsense and hyping dis shit. Giant of Africa indeed.
And you think you're smart, do pakistan and egypt pay fully for their hardware?

Is Nigeria in the same economic bracket as south korea, USA, UK, Turkey, Iran and india

Is Nigeria a military dictatorship like north korea?

Or do you need the facts shoved up your ***se
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by Nadheer15: 7:01pm On Aug 07, 2015
engineerboat:
Thanks for your agreement.

https://www.naij.com/295124-us-denies-nigeria-military-weapons.html

http://www.punchng.com/news/why-we-refused-to-sell-cobra-helicopters-to-nigeria-us/

https://www.nairaland.com/2164716/president-jonathans-delay-fighting-boko
You still don't get don't you? Why wait till elections? Jonathan became the President in 2011, why wait till 2015? People suffered, if indeed you watched the video yourself. All Jonathan did was to gain points for the elections!
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by BraniacX(m): 7:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
Nadheer15:
This OP is getting everything wrong, with all this hardwares, why did we lose more than 13,000lives? GEJ only woke up 6weeks to elections and that's when Nigeria acquired all this. Remember boko-are-rams menace started in 2009,even the documentary you presented was in 2015. If them born Vice News well, them for go Bornu State 2012 or 2013.

Buhari and APC were lamenting about GEJ's inability to tackle boko-are-rams until elections, that doesn't make sense. No doubt the Military hardwares were bought, but why 6 weeks to elections?! undecided
And where were you when ihejirikA's clamp down on boko haram was being touted as an easterner's genocide against muslim northerners by buhari and the northern elders forumhuh? Where were you when buhari was going from radio station to newspaper houses alleging bias against the north in the handling of boko haram vis-a-vis not granting them amnesty and largesse like ND militantshuh? And yet, you blame GEJ for backing of and trying diplomacy until it became too late abihuh?

Abeg park well and receive deliverance from your hypocrisy
Re: Re: Equipping Of Nigeria Army And Airforce by texazzpete(m): 7:06pm On Aug 07, 2015
@OP
GEJ was president from 2011 to 2015, you're not even ashamed to claim that he only commenced the process of purchasing weapons in late 2014/early 2015 despite the armed forces taking a huge chunk of our budgets since 2011!

You guys are even making this worse for yourself, it now seems like a corruption case, and not just plain incompetence.

Trust Buhari to probe these crooks.
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