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| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by themilanway(m): 11:33am On Aug 26, 2015 |
So the protection seeker as far back as july 2014 never agreed with the leadership style of Jonathan? He even listed numerous times how and where Ojukwu was humilated by his own kinsmen. I'm feeling sorry for his dumb and ass licking followers. Between him and his followers,one must be fooling the other.Some one should help me with answer. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 4:50pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
themilanway:He simply understood their vulnerability and took their heads for a ride. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 5:07pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 6:20pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia:Biafra is a moving train, if the suicidal ones once standing in front of it, come back to their senses and decide to board the train, we thank God for their lives and keep moving, if they don't, we still keep moving. We were strongly pro Biafran and see Ojukwu as a hero when Barcanista was pro Arewa-Odua, and we remained pro Biafran and still see Ojukwu as a hero, after Barcanista crossed over, and even now that he has gone awol, we are still pro Biafra an see Ojukwu as a hero. What does that tell you? |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 5:10pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza:That tells me you were used for the elections and dumped. The protection seeker does not give a rats behind about your Biafra. barcanista: |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 5:15pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia:Lol, and you think we give a rat about him? Before he became pro GEJ, we were already pro GEJ, after he joined the GEJ camp, we remained pro GEJ. Our support for GEJ remained constant, independent of where Barcanista pitched his tent. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 5:19pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza:Great. Now why did Late Ojukwu run for President of a united Nigeria twice after causing tremendous loss of life in his quest for an independent Biafra?. Lets keep the discourse clean. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by nwadiuko1(m): 5:36pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
barcanista:I just saw this now....barcanister did you really say this? |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 5:54pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia:Ojukwu had an Igbo spirit, he was a free man, free to make his own choices and life decisions. He decided to run for Nigerian president for reasons best known to him, I am not a mind reader, I can only guess. I think he ran for presidency because he wanted to inspire Ndiigbo, to show us the importance of unity, to show us the hypocrisy of Nigerians, who will accuse Ndiigbo of being tribalists, sentimental and still stuck in Biafra if we decide to vote for one of our own, but will also accuse us of being stupid, politically naive and incapable of uniting for a cause, if we decide to vote other Nigerians. Thanks to Ojukwu running for presidency, we now know that even if Ndiigbo decided to vote for Buhari and against GEJ, the Odua-Arewa would have still made us villains for not voting GEJ. Thanks to Ojukwu, sensible Biafrans now know that Ndiigbo can never please the Arewa-Odua, because they( Arewa-Odua) have created a political game in Nigeria, in which the Igbo must be made villains, irrespective of the path we take, we must end up as villains, we can never win in their eyes. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 6:00pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 6:17pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
And oh, it wasn't Ojukwu who caused tremendous loss of lives in Biafra. It was the Arewa-Odua who decided that Biafra must not be, and then invaded Biafra, leaving death in their wake. This is history as we know it. Ojukwu remains a hero. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 6:11pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
nwadiuko1:Barcanista was a rabid Igbophobic Ijaw man before he switched sides to GEJ camp. Most Igbos here know him, I personally had many exchanges with him during his Igbophobic era. I am surprised you didn't know that. At a point Ndiigbo here were convinced he was a Yoruba, as we only witness such level of Igbophobia from Yorubas mainly. Barcanista had to at a point Post his voters identity card here to prove he was really from Okrika in Rivers state. If there is a scale to measure Igbophobia, ranging from 0 to 10, Barcanista was a perfect 10. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 6:25pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia: pazienza:Mallam, now that you have an answer on Ojukwu, provide honest answers to these questions: *Tell me, why is it that your people find it difficult to survive without forgery, falsification of figures, wanton treasury looting and lies You can buttress your point with the census exercises carried out thus far in the country. *Why do Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris vehemently oppose the restructuring of the country You can use the 2014 National Conference as a case study.*From the rigged election results statistics you advertised earlier, if Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri had/have the clout to win national elections why are you addicted to using underage voters ![]() *Your slaves in the South have begun preaching a new message cum propaganda of how peace-loving and accommodative Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been to the Igbos in the North. And that it's the Igbos that have always provoked their host to massacring them. Okay! My question is, if indeed Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been peace-loving and accommodative, why are such gestures not extended to the Christian minorities in the North and Middle-belt ![]() *For many decades now Fulani herdsmen have continued to exhibit despicable attitudes and heartlessness with reckless abandon, trespassing on indigenous peasants' farmlands, destroying their crops, killing the people and chasing them far away from their ancestral lands. Why have you chosen these path of destruction ![]() *Explain in clear, plain language what you understand by the ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. Who made the statement and why Hint: It was such famous incitement and threat amongst others that metamorphosed into the carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election. *"The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960 Why did your god, Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly utter this comment in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and you bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people? *How can a country built on a false and faulty foundation still attempts to progress by concealing the truth? Be sincere and objective for once even if the truth is bitter and hurts! Imokay: |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by TRUTHTOPOWER: 7:22pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
500GP:In reality, yes. but realities are subject to Change. If anyone told PMB his harshest rivals will leave ACN, APGA and PDP and form a national movement to make him president he would describe the prophecy as unrealistic. Castro once gave two "impossible" postulations for the normalization of diplomatic relations with US, namely, (1) There will be a black president (2) There will be a Latin American Pope. 50 years ago those postulations were Utopian. Today, that is the reality! To Nigeria. Anyone with the right 3Ms can be the President. these are: the Right Motivation, the Right Management, the Right Money. to compelling degrees the Right 3Ms coincides in PMB. He wept, chose modesty far below his rank, GENUINELY mixed with commoners, liberalized his political philosophy, and his rivals elevated him. I dare say in barcanista time, things will have become a little better. cheers |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 7:41pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
xtrorse:Read my moniker. I do not have to explain anything to YOU. Make the effort for the change you seek. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 7:45pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza:It was Ojukwu's thirst for oil and nothing else. Why the uprising in the first place? Who threw the first salvo? Ojukwu betrayed the people he wasted by running for President TWICE, being ridiculed in the process and being rejected roundly by the SS and the SE. That is the cold hard fact. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 7:45pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia: |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 7:53pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
TRUTHTOPOWER:Your reasoning above is all hogwash and holds no water in the Nigeria of today. In Nigeria as it's currently structured, your theorisation is false and baseless and cannot work. What works and worked for Buhari is pure systematic rigging! If you're sincere you would dwell majorly on the massive restructuring of the system. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 7:57pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 8:28pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia:Mallam, I know you are already drunk to stupor with the crude oil from another man's backyard, and that's why you have remained mischievous while hiding under the guise of objectivity. Amongst other issues, I have being expecting you to provide honest answers as to why your people have continued to unleash terror and mayhem on Christian minorities and Southerners in the North and in the Middle-belt. But I shall continue to burst open your silly arrogance. "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960 damosthottest:
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| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Sweetlemon(f): 8:13pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
barcanista:LMAO! When I say that politically, Igbos don't just seem to know what EXACTLY they want, some low self-esteemed bull will start stalking me. They don't want Presidency, they don't want biafra, they don't want the senate, they don't want nada. The most painful thing is that they now blame others for their lack of not knowing what they want. Business-wise Igbos are the bomb, academically Igbos are hot, professionally Igbos no dey carry last. But politically? Chai! As in ehn. ZERO. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 8:19pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Sweetlemon:Misery of a Melancholic Masturbating Masturbator, whining, weeping and wailing profusely on every available media with thick mucous dripping down their smelly noses as if their life sustenance is being taken away from them! You aren't seen nothing yet... |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Sweetlemon(f): 8:21pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Obiagelli:This is why NL Igbos hate me so much. Most just can't stomach the fact that an Akwa-Ibomite can join forces with other regions and not the SE. Sorry my dears, I will NEVER ever accept your style of hate-Yoruba-and-Hausa politics cos it leads absolutely nowhere at all whatsoever |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 8:23pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 11:37pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza: pazienza: |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Sweetlemon(f): 8:28pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
LMAO! I just checked now that this thread was last year. No wonder barcarnista could speak his mind then. Now he badly needs the same Igbos to help promote his PDP campaign and they naively believe him ![]() |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 8:30pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
fulanimafia:How can one thirst for oil already located in one's region? Is it a must to co exist with the Arewa-Odua? If someone doesn't want to you, the natural reaction is to cut off the person, forcing the person to stay with you only proves you are desperate and a parasite. Gowon declared war on Biafra, Biafra didn't declare war on Nigeria, isn't this a common knowledge. Ndiigbo didn't vote for Ojukwu, but instead voted for a non Igbo, shouldn't this be a cause to praise Ndiigbo for our altruistic nature? Which other group in Nigeria had ever voted a person from another region over theirs? Shouldn't we be praised for our patriotism? No, you look for a way to turn it all against Ndiigbo, Igbo bashing is a task that must be done, so you accuse Igbos of not caring about Ojukwu, you accuse us of lacking the ability to unite and vote one our own, like the "sophisticated ones", you accuse Igbos of being politically naive, you accuse us of being( AGIP)- ALL GOVERNMENT IN POWER voters. Ndiigbo can never please you lots. Yorubas had the opportunity to vote Buhari( the now packaged messiah) but turned it down to vote a corrupt and incompetent OBJ, were they crucified? No, they were hailed as being sophisticated, United and all what not. Igbo leaders rush to Abuja to congratulate Buhari, you term us AGIP, trying to reap where we didn't sow, trying to curry Buhari's favour. Igbo leaders refuse to go to Abuja, instead criticize Buhari, you term us children of hate, tribal and emotional. Everything the Igbo man does is given negative interpretations and used against him, he can never do right. I am sure if Ojukwu didn't contest for any elections in Post civil war Nigeria, your interpretation will be that Ojukwu was a bitter Man that was stuck on Biafra throughout his life. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 8:50pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza: barcanista: That is the reason you all never voted him, you thought he was incompetent especially after his disgraceful defeat at war. The proof is in the continuous ridicule he suffered in the hands of Ibos till he died as pointed out by barcanista. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by fulanimafia: 8:51pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Sweetlemon:Dayyum ![]() |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by pazienza(m): 8:58pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 10:38am On Aug 28, 2015 |
fulanimafia:And yet he remains an Igbo idol. Gladly praised by millions of well breast fed Igbos. Isn't that an enigma ? You have to be Igbo to understand why. Ojukwu was a servant of Ndiigbo, not the other way round, this is a direct puncture to the balloon of those who kept leading the propaganda of Ojukwu leading Ndiigbo to war. It was rather the other way, Ndiigbo needed a war leader, and we choose Ojukwu. He didn't win the battle, but he ensured the war can continue in the future, that alone, we count as victory. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by nwadiuko1(m): 9:05pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
pazienza:ok maybe I wasn't really an active member then or I was yet to join nairaland then......thanks for the clarification |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by TRUTHTOPOWER: 9:46pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
xtrorse:At what did you realize the flaw in our electoral system? Perhaps when your candidate lost power. The arithmetic was not in favour of GEJ. The same demographic distribution that gave north sizeable electorate had worked for PDP 3times before. So the same demographic went for PMB. The outcome in the north reflected the wish of the people in the north. In Southeast how many people came out to protest disenfranchisement? Why do we have avid voters in Rivers, akwa ibom and delta not in other 8 states of SS/SE. Available Intel suggests that majority of SS/SE voters were not too inclined to sacrifice time and money to register to vote. How many Igbos for instance will travel from Lagos to register to vote in Abia? As for southwest, the vote was close, but PMB only needed to hold GEJ down and score at least 25% in each of the 6 southwest states. Even in Ekiti he (PMB) got 40%. Who could be more ruthless than Fayose, yet he could not stop PMB from a technical victory in Ekiti. How do you Expect a people campaigned against as "children wey dem born throway" vote in the north? for their abusers? The problem with PDP is that they were too simplistic in thinking (power answererth all things) Hence the slogan changed from power to the people to "PDP...Power" Then they had a jingle with this lyrics " Jonathan O sidon, NA your seat o, sidon, na beg we dey beg o sidon" If NA beg, make im just make himself president. Why you are singing like that the entire job creation profile of GEJ revealed that 30 million youths unemployed before him. in six years, his policies created less than 5 million jobs. when you add 1 million entrants per year to the outstanding, he left the economy at the same point job creation wise. Then his policy forecast was to create 2 million jobs every year from 2015, when you do the math, that leaves us with 22 million job deficit by 2019. So why you were singing sidon 22 million youths have no hope of employment if GEJ had opportunity to rule for 10 years. it doesn't get better when you yearly entrants to it. so in 10 years we would be virtually at the same statistical point. As Prof Soludo pointed out, the only relief in APC strategy was probity. Job creation wise it is a statistical tie. When we make argument like this, the simpletons think Nigerians are economically stupid and that 5 pieces of 100 Nair a notes will make the poor forget his poverty of the last 20 years - particularly the last 4 years. If it was up to you to hire a new MD that will pay you dividends two natural questions will come to your mind: (1) Do I have to retain the agency that recruited the MDs given your experience in the last sixteen years? (2) Do you have to reward this agency with four more years of choosing your MD? Other questions of religion, integrity, ethnicity, etc will come to your mind, but your conclusion will depend on your experience and expectations in the venture. for majority of 30 million youths their experience propelled them towards PMB. This gravitation is Sociologically logical to people who are not primitively prejudiced and simplistic. You may choose to validate this with any example in the world. In the US the slogan is: "it is the economy, stupid" From UK to Brazil, all elections turn on voters antecedent experience. There is a news that there is scarcity of potable water at Otuoke. If something as basic as water is scarce, need we discuss other social amenities? The problem is every where in Nigeria, but primitive prejudice will never allow such matters to be the deciding factor in an election. rather it is religion and ethnicity of the oppressor that matters to the pathetically oppressed. What poverty of imagination?! When you hear Muslims at the grassroots talk about Sharia, never you simplify it as criminal justice system. It is their revival of social justice. They see PMB as an advocate of equality attend an in social justice not as a mallam who is interested in subjecting them to corporal or capital punishment when they err. That is why PMB who does not preach is more popular than preachers - he speaks truth to power. Respectfully, he is not perfect. For PMB Christian supporters, it is about social justice as it is about Sharia for some Muslims. It is a marriage of values with great potential for tolerance, peace and progress. Make no mistake about it, social justice battles does not hesitate to deal with prejudicially hostile or chronically toxic elements. By the way corruption is toxic! |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by IdisuleOurOwn(m): 10:08pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Person wey open this thread wicked o! Fulanimafia, I hail thee. |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by bashirolu: 10:15pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
He was only sound and fury but as empty as a can. Nobody votes for such a personification of cowardice and megalomania |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by WIZGUY69(m): 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
barcanista:Just Imagine ![]() Cc: All the iboes in the house. See what your one of your brother is saying. truth is bitter. I just laugh when I see some ranting and bragging on the net (only nairaland) about Biafra. but what I hate about the iboes here is that they hate reality ![]() from having the best neighborhood in the world to the richest to the most innovative. haba ![]() |
| Re: Igbo President?. But Ojukwu Contested In 2003 and 2007 by Nobody: 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2015*. Modified: 10:51pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
TRUTHTOPOWER:It's so glaring that that your opinion fell short of the reality in this country. Maybe you reside outside the country as to not know what transpired with the Permanent Voters Cards (PVC). How Jega and the Islamic bigots in APC colluded and disenfranchised certain regions in the South. And as at December 2014, NE war-torn zone had collected about 80% of the PVC which peacefully zones in the south could not measure up to 50%! You see, you maybe exposed but the fact is you are not truthful. People like you in the society who speak from both sides of the mouth are the problems we have in this forced union. You pontificate as if you are objective and sincere, feigning ignorance of the evils of the day. Well, before I leave you to your mission, erudite scholar, kindly provide honest answers to these questions to help buttress the points you raised: *Tell me, why is it that Hausa-Fulani-Kanurisfind it difficult to survive without forgery, falsification of figures, wanton treasury looting and lies You can buttress your point with the census exercises carried out thus far in the country. *Why do Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris vehemently oppose the restructuring of the country You can use the 2014 National Conference as a case study.*If Hausa-Fulani-Kanuri had/have the clout to win national elections why are they addicted to using underage voters ![]() *Some South-Westerners have begun preaching a new message cum propaganda of how peace-loving and accommodative Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been to the Igbos in the North. And that it's the Igbos that have always provoked their host to massacring them. Okay! My question is, if indeed Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris have been peace-loving and accommodative, why are such gestures not extended to the Christian minorities in the North and Middle-belt ![]() *For many decades now Fulani herdsmen have continued to exhibit despicable attitudes and heartlessness with reckless abandon, trespassing on indigenous peasants' farmlands, destroying their crops, killing the people and chasing them far away from their ancestral lands. Why have they chosen these path of destruction ![]() *Explain in clear, plain language what you understand by the ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. Who made the statement and why Hint: It was such famous incitement and threat amongst others that metamorphosed into the carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election. *"The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960 Why did Ahmadu Bello arrogantly utter this comment in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and yet bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people? *How can a country built on a false and faulty foundation still attempts to progress by concealing the truth? Be sincere and objective for once even if the truth is bitter and hurts! |
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You can buttress your point with the census exercises carried out thus far in the country.


