Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,153,238 members, 7,818,802 topics. Date: Monday, 06 May 2024 at 04:26 AM

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (1282) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 (10528796 Views)

Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London / Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe / Manchester United Fan thread: Forever Reds (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (1279) (1280) (1281) (1282) (1283) (1284) (1285) ... (19166) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 12:29pm On Aug 30, 2015
Chestar5:


ugh, u are so pathetic shocked
I still love you wink wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 12:46pm On Aug 30, 2015
^^DJ, abeg, play "my woman...my everything" for her to enjoy.

Or
Kiss Daniel's "laye" wink wink wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 12:48pm On Aug 30, 2015
Your case is serious o shockedsad cry.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 12:51pm On Aug 30, 2015
Olaone1:
grin grin grin grin grin
We are upgrading. Trolling now has a new name. Band boys are dynamic wink wink


Gtfoh, dawg!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 12:55pm On Aug 30, 2015
JigsawKillah:



Gtfoh, dawg!
haha. pained cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 12:56pm On Aug 30, 2015
Chestar5:
Your case is serious o shockedsad cry.....
you are right, love wink wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 1:03pm On Aug 30, 2015
Olaone1:

haha. pained cheesy cheesy


Pained? Seriously?
The bashing I get at home everytime Chelsea loses is by far worse than the Band boys do here.


Your style is just boring
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:04pm On Aug 30, 2015
JigsawKillah:



Pained? Seriously?
The bashing I get at home everytime Chelsea loses is by far worse than the Band boys do here.


Your style is just boring
I'm boring too......not just my style. Ask Chestar grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 1:06pm On Aug 30, 2015
Chestar5:
Your case is serious o shockedsad cry.....
I will tell you,You have been disturbing the thread.....
Must you 'play' with everyone??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 1:12pm On Aug 30, 2015
Mourinholic:
I will tell you,You have been disturbing the thread..... Must you 'play' with everyone??
oops, sorry o cry....am i forgiven
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 1:18pm On Aug 30, 2015
AFTER GAME INTERVIEW WITH KURT HAPPY ZOUMA:
‘We are very disappointed with the result,’ he said. ‘The target was to win the game to confirm the win last week. Crystal Palace played well and we congratulate them, but we have to think about the next game now. ‘We have a little break of two weeks and we have to recover very well and then come back stronger.’
i pray u all come back stronger sad.....
@mouriholic undecided, i dont really get what i did o.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 1:18pm On Aug 30, 2015
......
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:19pm On Aug 30, 2015
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no believe in them. That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"

8 Likes 1 Share

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by edoyad(m): 1:37pm On Aug 30, 2015
Greatihex:
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no believe in them. That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"
grin cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:38pm On Aug 30, 2015
^^ grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by edoyad(m): 1:41pm On Aug 30, 2015
Olaone1:
^^ grin grin grin grin

My brother how market ?
I can see you have "parked your bus" on this thread
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mikeywise(m): 1:47pm On Aug 30, 2015
Leyqute:

...and your flying horse will start speaking Spanish. grin
as long as we have not lost 7 matches, we will retain the league.
And for the person asking, I mean the EPL.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 1:56pm On Aug 30, 2015
Greatihex:
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no one believe in them . That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"

kiss wink

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Olaone1: 1:57pm On Aug 30, 2015
edoyad:


My brother how market ?
I can see you have "parked your bus" on this thread
grin
Yes. i don't use Yokohama tyres, though grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 2:07pm On Aug 30, 2015
Greatihex:
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no believe in them. That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"


What you are failing to take into account is that while we were "winning" last season, some of us were quick to point out the papering over the cracks. The true state of events was that we were only grinding out results. Some of us were quick to say that JM was heading down a very dangerous path, encouraging a system of untouchables AGAIN and playing a first 11 into the ground.

He plays with a small squad and keeps only a few fringe players as back up because he is afraid to experiment. His cautious methods are very successful, no doubt but I have never been shy to point out the potential huge flaws to his methods.

You see, Jose's methods are very effective but only for the first two seasons at any club. If Jose has to stay longer at than 3 seasons at any club and he doesn't spend hugely, the flaws in his methods will be exposed on a grand scale.

Jose plays only a few players into the ground season after season. Jose ignores the injection of healthy competition. Jose does not build a dynasty when he doesn't introduce young players in the unnecessary games. Jose is afraid to experiment. He picks one way of winning and sticks with it. If that method is found out, as it has been now, he will struggle.

That horrible form carried on into the pre-season. I remember stating my displeasure at our play and especially method of attack and predicted that we will have problems this season.


Conclusions drawn from pre-season games are mostly useless. One conclusion is true though; we are going to struggle in Europe this season again.

The same problems exist. We have no midfield and this is actually all our first choice midfielders playing.

The transition of play through the middle is non-existent. Our forward play comes only through the wings and only through Hazard on the wing. Once Hazard is marked out, our attack is dead.



Barely four games in and the cracks have appeared seriously. You only needed to have seen the games.




Granted, there are management induced problems Jose has to contend with. There are many other problems that are predominantly Jose induced. Sold Bertrand and bought Filipe Luis. Failed to play Luis. Sold him back. Now he's gone out and bought Rahman yet still plays with Azpi at LB. Why? Why would a top European team, for 3 seasons, insist on playing football without an attacking left back, constantly leaving Hazard alone to do it all by himself? . Why so conservative?

Last season, he was telling the press, "My Ramires is back" Ramires?

Persists with Iva at RB when people like Ibime and I have been shouting for a better part of 3 seasons how much of a liability Iva is.

He will never play a young player in the League for 90 mins. My point - if RLC is not good enough to play alongside other good Chelsea players, against Watford, then screw it. Close down the academy and send all the boys to other teams who need them. This will normally be the side JM leans on; Oh! I don't want to give up a possible 3 points from a mistake by a young player.

However in stark contrast to this belief, Chelsea trailing 1-2 to Crystal Palace, he throws in RLC and Kennedy to salvage a point. It doesn't make any sense. How does he expect them to salvage anything? Especially when you didn't give these players 90 mins in preseason, didn't pick any of them for the community shield, wouldn't give them game time against the weak teams in the league. All of a sudden he wants them to be heroes.

It's a classic case of someone who only becomes inventive when their back is against the wall. Example, when all defenders were out and he had to rely on Tomas Kalas for 90 mins against top flying Liverpool. The boy gave a wonderful account of himself and almost scored a wonderful goal on his league debut. Where's Kalas now?

If he groomed Kalas with 60 mins here and 45 mins there, surely we won't be begging Everton with £40m for an average John Stones. If Nathan Ake had been allowed 30 mins here and there, surely we will have enough depth to prevent a possible shell out of £70m on Pogba.


In fact make I just stop, I have 3 seasons worth of complaints. I no get time.

16 Likes 7 Shares

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:26pm On Aug 30, 2015
nateevs:



What you are failing to take into account is that while we were "winning" last season, some of us were quick to point out the papering over the cracks. The true state of events was that we were only grinding out results. Some of us were quick to say that JM was heading down a very dangerous path, encouraging a system of untouchables AGAIN and playing a first 11 into the ground.

He plays with a small squad and keeps only a few fringe players as back up because he is afraid to experiment. His cautious methods are very successful, no doubt but I have never been shy to point out the potential huge flaws to his methods.

You see, Jose's methods are very effective but only for the first two seasons at any club. If Jose has to stay longer at than 3 seasons at any club and he doesn't spend hugely, the flaws in his methods will be exposed on a grand scale.

Jose plays only a few players into the ground season after season. Jose ignores the injection of healthy competition. Jose does not build a dynasty when he doesn't introduce young players in the unnecessary games. Jose is afraid to experiment. He picks one way of winning and sticks with it. If that method is found out, as it has been now, he will struggle.

That horrible form carried on into the pre-season. I remember stating my displeasure at our play and especially method of attack and predicted that we will have problems this season.






Barely four games in and the cracks have appeared seriously. You only needed to have seen the games.




Granted, there are management induced problems Jose has to contend with. There are many other problems that are predominantly Jose induced. Sold Bertrand and bought Filipe Luis. Failed to play Luis. Sold him back. Now he's gone out and bought Rahman yet still plays with Azpi at LB. Why? Why would a top European team, for 3 seasons, insist on playing football without an attacking left back, constantly leaving Hazard alone to do it all by himself? . Why so conservative?

Last season, he was telling the press, "My Ramires is back" Ramires?

Persists with Iva at RB when people like Ibime and I have been shouting for a better part of 3 seasons how much of a liability Iva is.

He will never play a young player in the League for 90 mins. My point - if RLC is not good enough to play alongside other good Chelsea players, against Watford, then screw it. Close down the academy and send all the boys to other teams who need them. This will normally be the side JM leans on; Oh! I don't want to give up a possible 3 points from a mistake by a young player.

However in stark contrast to this belief, Chelsea trailing 1-2 to Crystal Palace, he throws in RLC and Kennedy to salvage a point. It doesn't make any sense. How does he expect them to salvage anything? Especially when you didn't give these players 90 mins in preseason, didn't pick any of them for the community shield, wouldn't give them game time against the weak teams in the league. All of a sudden he wants them to be heroes.

It's a classic case of someone who only becomes inventive when their back is against the wall. Example, when all defenders were out and he had to rely on Tomas Kalas for 90 mins against top flying Liverpool. The boy gave a wonderful account of himself and almost scored a wonderful goal on his league debut. Where's Kalas now?

If he groomed Kalas with 60 mins here and 45 mins there, surely we won't be begging Everton with £40m for an average John Stones. If Nathan Ake had been allowed 30 mins here and there, surely we will have enough depth to prevent a possible shell out of £70m on Pogba.


In fact make I just stop, I have 3 seasons worth of complaints. I no get time.
that iva's part is d one dat annoys me most. Right 4rm d day 1 he started playing RB, he was messing up defensively. Then he was lucky cahill nd terry was covering 4 hm.
Wel, you made sense. The issue nw is that jose is going to stay 4 sum long dis tym around. I tink he wl have to learn d new way. I stil believe in his dynamism.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:37pm On Aug 30, 2015
Ah! From "League Champions" to "Lets Sha Manage To Enter Top 4"?? Nawa o grin grin

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:43pm On Aug 30, 2015
Chelski fans lamenting upandan the thread. Hahahaha this is just too funny. Like my baba Nihilist would always say, "Awon Wailing Wailers" grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:46pm On Aug 30, 2015
I pray Ivanovic plays vs United. Depay might be uproven and useless like y'all claim. But he'll enjoy himself dat day cheesy cheesy

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 2:47pm On Aug 30, 2015
Nihilist:


Oga park well jare. Why won't romero keep clean sheet when the useless opposition can't even test the keeper?

Newcastle vs Manyoo for example, Newcastle did not have a single shot on target, and Romero did not have to make a single save.

that is a testament to man utd's defensive organisation. no team gets on the pitch with the intention not to shoot....the defence restricts them from shooting on target, not because newcastle didn't want to shoot. you should borrow a leaf from how united shape up when they don't have the ball


I also think that Fellaini is a better keeper than Cortouis since his team kept a clean sheet he didn't really contribute to.

this statement is bereft of common sense.
what has fellaini that is yet to kick a ball in the league gotta do with this statement? are you saying romero hasn't made a save since the league started? he hasn't had to make a catch? i don't blame you though - after bolasie's anal rape, it's not unusual for you to be spewing baloney. 9 goals conceded in 4 league games.......i never knew chelsea have now added prostitution to their trade. grin

3 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:14pm On Aug 30, 2015
Greatihex:
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no believe in them. That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"
i dont know if they are just plastics fans that only wants success without hard times... Or just this our nigeria. Mentality
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 3:25pm On Aug 30, 2015
Greatihex:
The problem i hv wt sum chelsea fans on dis forum is the way they forget so easily like the israelites. These guys played dia best last season and won us the league losing only twice prior to securing d title and all of a sudden now, u guys no longer believe in dia talents and ability.
One tin we shld undastd is that you cannot always win. This is the premier league wia anytin is possible. I still have faith that we wl retain dis title. Relax guys, the chelsea u knw wl return, the chelsea dat shld nt be underestimated. My beloveth club that always spring up surprises wen no believe in them. That is the reason i love d club so much. One tin is sure, "we will be back to winning ways"
We will be back,we trust the players....That's how the scummies ended up 7th with no European Football for a year and 2 years without trophies

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 3:27pm On Aug 30, 2015
Mourinholic:

We will be back,we trust the players....That's how the scummies ended up 7th with no European Football for a year and 2 years without trophies

grin

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Noah13: 4:12pm On Aug 30, 2015
De Bruyne to City official
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by tick(m): 4:39pm On Aug 30, 2015
With the addition of KDB, I officially give the league to City. They have won it before the transfer window closes.

1 Like

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JigsawKillah(m): 4:49pm On Aug 30, 2015
tick:
With the addition of KDB, I officially give the league to City. They have won it before the transfer window closes.


they simply did what we did last season . . . bought what they think they lack.

But this is just the beginning

2 Likes

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:58pm On Aug 30, 2015
Well I have to disagree with my man Nateevs on quite a few points.

1. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a core squad. Barcelona for example have almost no bench at all(Relatively speaking). That hasn't stopped them from winning the quintuple.City, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool also had their very predictable squads week in,week out.Let's not forget that this same 'threadbare' Chelsea squad won the double almost too easily last season.

In fact, it was only Terry, Ivanovic and Hazard that played every league game of last season. Costa was out for a few. Oscar very rarely finished games. Zouma and RLC got several chances to impress, and some other youngsters got chances to play in the last few games of the season. So I think that 'playing the players into the ground' is not to blame here.

2. So what is to blame? I remember when I did that analysis of the game versus City and it became immediately apparent that there was a big gap between Midfield and Defence. That gap there in my opinion is the problem. And that Gap is a as a result of a slight change in system.

Jose clearly is still not convinced on the best position for Fabregas. Fabregas plays best(Offensively) in the Pivot, but is a defensive liability. When Jose tries to push him into the hole, he becomes ineffective. Oscar manages to bring out the best in Fab by tracking back, whilst still doing a job upfront. Willian also tracks back, but is clearly ineffective up top..

3. The fullback situation. Jose mostly played Terry in defence. If you have 2 fullbacks bombing forward, you expose Terry's lack of pace to pacy counter attackers. Hence, Jose attacks with one FB to offer some relatively decent protection. That being said, Iva is rinsed each game and Jose has clearly looked to rectify that. Our last two games(v Westbrom and Palace) Azpi has been the more attacking fullback and Ivan's runs down the right have clearly been reined in. If you have the chance, look up the average position for Azpi and Iva over the last two games and you will see that Azpi has been in more advanced positions. That being said, Hazard created the most chances in the league last season, and he is joint 2nd for chance creation this season, despite the relative lack of support.

4. Last season Fabregas was the most dribbled past player in the Chelsea squad, and the Matic-Fab pivot was the most dribbled past combination in the league. Fabregas's propensity to go missing defensively, and Matic's over aggressive defensive play(Most tackles in the league) were mitigated against by a relatively weak league opposition. This season we're playing against some significantly upgraded teams. Against Swansea, we faced up against Jonjo Shelvey(2nd Most created chances in the league this season ), Cabaye(Cabaye lol) and the (Yaya toure/Silva/Aguero). We've also played 2 of our last 4 games with 10 men. So it's not as bad as it actually looks.

We've conceded 23 chances from the right flank(Highest in the league so far) so Yes Ivanovic has to go. But we've also conceded 17 chances from central areas(the 5th worst in the league). We also recorded the joint highest number of defensive errors in the league.

There is already a replacement ready for Iva, so thats a minor problem. That Midfield though is a big big big problem. And in my opinion is the main reason for our loss of form, and not because anybody has been played into the ground.

2 Likes

(1) (2) (3) ... (1279) (1280) (1281) (1282) (1283) (1284) (1285) ... (19166) (Reply)

Viewing this topic: 9 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 91
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.