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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by kevoh(m): 8:45am On Sep 10, 2015

Fear makes the world go round jare! I no go mind see my grand-father sef. tongue

Bring it on

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 10:16am On Sep 10, 2015

theAtheist101:
Who apportions these gifts and how did you know your gift?

The creator Apportions these gifts.

One thing I noticed is that these gifts r suppressed by that stupidity called religion.

A magic school can open it up

meeting someone who has already discovered himself can help identify ur gifts.

Finally, its very complex because we have lost track of who we really are.

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by chieveboy(m): 1:14pm On Sep 10, 2015*

krattoss:
He even said i might run mad if i dont stop been inquisitive and gave me instances of my wannabees who ran psychic

I found out l will be more comfortable speaking with agnostics and atheist than typical set of people at the flip side of the coin.

Firstly, you have a great dad...who did'n fall for the folly of interfering with someone else's spiritual life.
Secondly about 'resurrection' of your translated (dead) grandparents...l can assure you that can't happen! although what he said isn't at all far from the truth--about meeting them.

I have kept editing my post to make it short as possible. As an atheist, l expect you to have ruminated and digested the basic laws of physics which establishes the fact of things seeming invisible when exposed to speed or vibration of higher velocity and density. That been said but not withstanding, l understand that people who had died merely lost or gave up the physical body--which is merely a suit for physical-to-physical interaction. The other finer body that 'dead' people were is of course invisible to physical eyes. There is a faculty of the brain--lets put it that way--which is capable of sensing or seeing stuffs which are invisible.

So the situation is this, even though your dad and his guys may engage in a psychic technique to "resurrect" your grannies, that is absolutely not necessary at all. On the cool of day, if there is strong bond of love between you and any translated person, you may get visited once in a while in show of solidarity, and converse verbally...even though peeps around are seeing nothing. This is one of the event that prompted the statement that "love knows no boundaries or obstacles".

It will help you to divert from mainstream stereotype, stigmatization and belief to for starters, see this as a very natural phenomena pending when you'll verify these things yourself...the long-term adultery that people had had with wrong belief, speculation and superstition is to blame for the unpopularity and nonobservance of this fact of nature. People like you and l had made first hand discoveries and frequent real places, cities, planets and meet with real people who may appear angelic to humans and who exist in different body forms, yet are souls much like you and l.

You can visit this link and read the 'stories' about invisible beings around us especially that of a guy who had his 'baptism of fire' in[b] knowing first hand[/b] what death means. Its safe to know that most atheists l know are consequently the reading type. Its the story titled: "My Life-after-Death Experience with Lai Tsi" https://www.nairaland.com/2588138/encounters-spiritual-travellers.

*note that psychic practices are not advisable, it is better to focus on Dreaming which holds more water and is natural than psychic and occultic practices. Thanks

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by God2man(m): 3:08pm On Sep 10, 2015

A certain man was about to die, he called his children to call upon his name whenever they need him, he said he will appear and answer them.

The truth is, before death the man had already made a covenant with evil angels and possessed with some mysterious power. After death, the evil angels will appear disguising as the dead man.

The devil is a liar. Father of deceptions.

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 5:09pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
The creator Apportions these gifts.

One thing I noticed is that these gifts r suppressed by that stupidity called religion.

A magic school can open it up

meeting someone who has already discovered himself can help identify ur gifts.

Finally, its very complex because we have lost track of who we really are.

Then, how did the creator come about his own gift(s)?

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 5:16pm On Sep 10, 2015

theAtheist101:
Then, how did the creator come about his own gift(s)?

Another creator gave it surely ..

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by freecocoa(f): 5:22pm On Sep 10, 2015

OP have you talked to your grand parents yet? I'll need that man's contact, I have some news for my mum and I'll pay whatever he wants if she can get to stay on alive after he must have raised her from the dead, thanks, please let me know.

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 5:36pm On Sep 10, 2015

chieveboy:
I found out l will be more comfortable speaking with agnostics and atheist than typical set of people at the flip side of the coin.

Firstly, you have a great dad...who did'n fall for the folly of interfering with someone else's spiritual life.
Secondly about 'resurrection' of your translated (dead) grandparents...l can assure you that can't happen! although what he said isn't at all far from the truth--about meeting them.

I have kept editing my post to make it short as possible. As an atheist, l expect you to have ruminated and digested the basic laws of physics which establishes the fact of things seeming invisible when exposed to speed or vibration of higher velocity and density. That been said but not withstanding, l understand that people who had died merely lost or gave up the physical body--which is merely a suit for physical-to-physical interaction. The other finer body that 'dead' people were is of course invisible to physical eyes. There is a faculty of the brain--lets put it that way--which is capable of sensing or seeing stuffs which are invisible.

So the situation is this, even though your dad and his guys may engage in a psychic technique to "resurrect" your grannies, that is absolutely not necessary at all. On the cool of day, if there is strong bond of love between you and any translated person, you may get visited once in a while in show of solidarity, and converse verbally...even though peeps around are seeing nothing. This is one of the event that prompted the statement that "love knows no boundaries or obstacles".

It will help you to divert from mainstream stereotype, stigmatization and belief to for starters, see this as a very natural phenomena pending when you'll verify these things yourself...the long-term adultery that people had had with wrong belief, speculation and superstition is to blame for the unpopularity and nonobservance of this fact of nature. People like you and l had made first hand discoveries and frequent real places, cities, planets and meet with real people who may appear angelic to humans and who exist in different body forms, yet are souls much like you and l.

You can visit this link and read the 'stories' about invisible beings around us especially that of a guy who had his 'baptism of fire' in[b] knowing first hand[/b] what death means. Its safe to know that most atheists l know are consequently the reading type. Its the story titled: "My Life-after-Death Experience with Lai Tsi" https://www.nairaland.com/2588138/encounters-spiritual-travellers.

*note that psychic practices are not advisable, it is better to focus on Dreaming which holds more water and is natural than psychic and occultic practices. Thanks

dope and better analysis

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 5:40pm On Sep 10, 2015

theAtheist101:
Then, how did the creator come about his own gift(s)?

No human have any knowledge about that.

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 6:01pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
No human have any knowledge about that.

But, how did some humans know he exist?

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 6:37pm On Sep 10, 2015

theAtheist101:
But, how did some humans know he exist?

I am too complex to be a product of a big bang explosion.

God, creator, almighty, or whatever anyone chooses to call him created d world, I don't need to go to his house to confirm his existence.

Man has built unmanned space crafts that can travel to mars (a six months journey)...... Land dere, run investigations n fly back..... Yet such a complex machinery that amazes u n me has a creator, Imagine thinking that WE that are 10 billion times more complex than those machines were a product of an explosion...

Being an atheist is d height of self blindfold.

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 7:00pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
I am too complex to be a product of a big bang explosion.

God, creator, almighty, or whatever anyone chooses to call him created d world, I don't need to go to his house to confirm his existence.

Man has built unmanned space crafts that can travel to mars (a six months journey)...... Land dere, run investigations n fly back..... Yet such a complex machinery that amazes u n me has a creator, Imagine thinking that WE that are 10 billion times more complex than those machines were a product of an explosion...

Being an atheist is d height of self blindfold.

So, would you now use this same analogy to justify the creator for god? Or why is his case different?

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 7:15pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
I am too complex to be a product of a big bang explosion.

God, creator, almighty, or whatever anyone chooses to call him created d world, I don't need to go to his house to confirm his existence.
Man has built unmanned space crafts that can travel to mars (a six months journey)...... Land dere, run investigations n fly back..... Yet such a complex machinery that amazes u n me has a creator, Imagine thinking that WE that are 10 billion times more complex than those machines were a product of an explosion...

Being an atheist is d height of self blindfold.

Lol . . really. . You need a little study on biological organisms.

Ok now going further. . According to you man is complex therefore must require a creator (that is how you deducted man has a creator)

Yet using that complexity analogy; The thing powerful and intelligent enough to create man must be far more complex than man and i mean billions of times more complex than man, so such a being must also require a creator which in turn will then also require a creator because it will even be more complex and so you see? the conplexity analogy only pulls off the infinite regress of creators.

You don't know how the world or anything started, simply say you don't. assumning up such ludicrous explanations without even postulating a method by which your answer is deducted (but a primitive ancient book written by goat herders) that is the greatest form of intellectual imbecility.

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by menesheh(m): 7:22pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
I am too complex to be a product of a big bang explosion.

God, creator, almighty, or whatever anyone chooses to call him created d world, I don't need to go to his house to confirm his existence.

Man has built unmanned space crafts that can travel to mars (a six months journey)...... Land dere, run investigations n fly back..... Yet such a complex machinery that amazes u n me has a creator, Imagine thinking that WE that are 10 billion times more complex than those machines were a product of an explosion...

Being an atheist is d height of self blindfold.

Why must there be a creator?

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 7:29pm On Sep 10, 2015

menesheh:
Why must there be a creator?

So ur just angry that there is a creator... okay.

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 7:30pm On Sep 10, 2015

johnydon22:
Lol . . really. . You need a little study on biological organisms.

Ok now going further. . According to you man is complex therefore must require a creator (that is how you deducted man has a creator)

Yet using that complexity analogy; The thing powerful and intelligent enough to create man must be far more complex than man and i mean billions of times more complex than man, so such a being must also require a creator which in turn will then also require a creator because it will even be more complex and so you see? the conplexity analogy only pulls off the infinite regress of creators.

You don't know how the world or anything started, simply say you don't. assumning up such ludicrous explanations without even postulating a method by which your answer is deducted (but a primitive ancient book written by goat herders) that is the greatest form of intellectual imbecility.

So according to u, how did man come about?

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 7:30pm On Sep 10, 2015

theAtheist101:
So, would you now use this same analogy to justify the creator for god? Or why is his case different?

We don't know. It's that simple.

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Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by menesheh(m): 7:34pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
So ur just angry that there is a creator... okay.

Nope.

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 7:40pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
So according to u, how did man come about?

I don't know..

For goodness sake there are people men and women now in space, many of them digging under ground because they all agree man still has many things to learn and they are trying to ascertain exactly how things happened.

Just like many things before now, man will answer the question of how life began sooner or later. .

I'd rather agree with the people who agree they don't know and are working day and night to make sure they know (Science)

Than base my deduction based on the superstition of ancient primitive men who didn't even know the earth orbited the sun and what worse believe it by faith.

Left to people like you man would still have the mindset that the God neptune is responsible for hurricanes..

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by eherbal(m): 7:42pm On Sep 10, 2015

Islamically, they're known as jinns. They're more advanced in everything, but we're more superior to them. Look it up though.

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 7:43pm On Sep 10, 2015

chuna1985:
We don't know. It's that simple.

Exactly!!!

we are yet to find out how man originated, that branch of study is still not perfected yet.

But if you assume up a creator for man then why stop there? that creator then must need a creator who in turn will also need another creator who will also need another creator...

So do not claim to know how man started and then try to apply absurd excuse by
trying to boycot where the creator that created man came from.. Deception has never stooped too low

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 6:29am On Sep 13, 2015

johnydon22:
Lol . . really. . You need a little study on biological organisms.

Ok now going further. . According to you man is complex therefore must require a creator (that is how you deducted man has a creator)

Yet using that complexity analogy; The thing powerful and intelligent enough to create man must be far more complex than man and i mean billions of times more complex than man, so such a being must also require a creator which in turn will then also require a creator because it will even be more complex and so you see? the conplexity analogy only pulls off the infinite regress of creators.

You don't know how the world or anything started, simply say you don't. assumning up such ludicrous explanations without even postulating a method by which your answer is deducted (but a primitive ancient book written by goat herders) that is the greatest form of intellectual imbecility.

if we knw all things he knws that means he is no god . The wiseness of man is foolishnes in d eyes of god. My broda stop explaining god tru logic. Do u bliv in causality? .

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 6:39am On Sep 13, 2015

johnydon22:
Exactly!!!

we are yet to find out how man originated, that branch of study is still not perfected yet.

But if you assume up a creator for man then why stop there? that creator then must need a creator who in turn will also need another creator who will also need another creator...

So do not claim to know how man started and then try to apply absurd excuse by
trying to boycot where the creator that created man came from.. Deception has never stooped too low

pope benedict is one of d greatest one of d greatest on earth but yet he blivs. All priests and clergy pass tru philosophy and theology they asked these questions u re asking nw. Yet they bliv. Do u think u re the fist to ask these? It absolutely requires noting to bliv. But what if we dont blv and at last ther is god?

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 6:45am On Sep 13, 2015

krattoss:
pope benedict is one of d greatest one of d greatest on earth but yet he blivs. All priests and clergy pass tru philosophy and theology they asked these questions u re asking nw. Yet they bliv. Do u think u re the fist to ask these? It absolutely requires noting to bliv. But what if we dont blv and at last ther is god?

I am not pope Benedict, Pope benedict is a catholic and so is bound to believe in what ever concept catholicity about.

For all we know it all take FAITH to believe such abstract concepts and i for one lack such. I do not need faith to know the earth is real when someone asserts something that transcends reality, unproven and unreal and ask me to just believe with faith; it is either he is lying or he is plain retard_ed.

If there is need to believe any human postulation by FAITH then there is no reason to believe it at all....

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by Nobody: 6:48am On Sep 13, 2015

Before i was living living in fantasy, but nw, i am facing reality.hardtimes, that moment u have a prblm no human being can solve. Nw its time for the litmus test. The real deal. Show me u exist

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 6:50am On Sep 13, 2015

krattoss:
if we knw all things he knws that means he is no god

We are by the day getting to know more and more about the Universe and the world around us.

The concept of a deity is an ancient assertion and so is hypothetical like every other unproven postulations.

. The wiseness of man is foolishnes in d eyes of god.

lmao...

My broda stop explaining god tru logic. Do u bliv in causality? .

Hahahaha this is funny. God is a human postulation. You were told about it by a human and read about it on a book written by human and you want to exempt it from human reason and scrutiny?

This shows that something must be fishy about such concept... Why is it that such concepts is so badly is shielded from scrutiny. . it shows deception and dishonesty

Re: Are Their Different Forces On Earth Apart From Living Things by johnydon22(m): 7:11am On Sep 13, 2015

krattoss:
Before i was living living in fantasy, but nw, i am facing reality.hardtimes, that moment u have a prblm no human being can solve. Nw its time for the litmus test. The real deal. Show me u exist

[b]This is one problem with humans, they tend to feel a need for psychological soft landing for their problems and in doing so rely on abstract concepts.... This is a worse form of dishonesty.

You have a problem you feel the need to believe a God might exist and then tend to use your problem as a litmus paper, if it doesn't get solved then voila God doesn't exist..

Your tilt is not based on reason or conformity with reality but rather psychological and emotional lax.

You are playing the victims card on your problem by seeing yourself as a victim of your circumstance.
I won't even tell one not to rely on a vague concept to solve their problems but i can only tell you this.

If you do not accept your problems as it is, accept that problems as well as Good times are part and parcel of the workings of the world, you will always lack the dependency of self it takes to face your problem.

A problem may not be solve but that it is, a problem may be solve and that is just about it.

You have to decide whether to honest to yourself and find out what you believe and your reason for believing that, Playing a victims card for a problem can never solve it.

If there are no UPs and DOWNs in someone's life, it simply mean that person is dead...

But alas everybody is free to believe what ever they can by what ever reason.
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