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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chelseafan1: 2:11pm On Sep 15, 2015
dopeJemi:
Which one is all these serious analysis and comments, my fellow united fans, i'm disappointed in you guys, we suppose dey mock these guys with everything, I don't like this friendship oh


Remember how they flooded our thread when they signed pedro, mocking us with memes and the rest, kings of hijacking, make una go hijack first place from man city hand na, Lubbish, who cares what their problem is, did they care what our problem was when they were all over our thread mocking us? Una dey here dey do analysis


[size=18pt]LONG MAY YOUR WOES CONTINUE


Down is where you'll remain[/size] angry angry Lubbish
After the mockeries, insults, e-fights and all, we need to be serious, have reasonable and intellectual debates, no be every time person go dey do like weyrey up and down, now is the time to be reasonable, join in the discussion and drop this for now.

No offence.winkwink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chrisooblog: 2:12pm On Sep 15, 2015
but weren't there Christmas fixtures in the same 2005-2009 period where English teams were so dominant in Europe? clubs especially the top English ones know about this fixture congestion that's why they buy large squads to cope

as for reason for poor form I say it's mourinho mourinho mourinho. I think he might be losing the plot and Chelsea is making the wenger mistake e.i. allowing past achievements glory said manager has brought to the club to cloud your judgment of his suitability to the team as of present

ancelloti, van gaal, del bosque etc great coaches who won laurels yet nobody batted an eyelid when clubs like r.madrid, Bayern, barca asked them to go when diminishing returns set in. don't get me wrong mourinho is a great manager in his own right but people should not hesitate to treat his f-up when it surfaces

AirborneLacer:
Gary Lineker made few interesting points hours ago.

“It's the Spanish who do well because they've got a form of playing that's particularly exhausting and they keep the ball,” said Lineker.

"We completely kill ourselves in the Christmas period with the madness of our fixtures. Boxing Day, New Year’s Day, OK. Do that but why the middle Saturday as well? Get rid of that one and replays in Cup competitions. You've go to remember as well that our football is more frantic so we don't really help ourselves.

"You come to February and all the other major countries have had a little bit of a break and we've been going bang, bang, bang. You could see it with Chelsea, they are a better team than Paris St Germain but they looked shattered. We can compete but, and, it's the same with international football, we don't help ourselves.”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nitlad: 2:16pm On Sep 15, 2015
On Eva, I very much like the way her issue was handled. You cannot wrestle the spotlight with the boss. That Facebook post is a huge NO-NO for me.

Now to proper team issues;

Mourinho is a complete idiöt for his stubbornness. Everyone knows Ivanovic deserves to be flung to some never-before-seen creature to be devoured, but he remains the first name on the team sheet.

In this day and age, how can an elite coach be so tactically rigid? Is 4-2-3-1 the only way to play football? A few tweaks in formation will not make us any worse than we already are.

I don't necessarily believe we must get another "man of steel" to partner Matic for us to be able to compete. Tactical and proper coaching would solve a lot of our midfield problems. Just give Matic strict instructions to sit and not get attracted to happenings up-field.

Poor coaching and tactics aside there are also some players not firing on all cylinders.

Hazard nor dey try. Perhaps the hype is getting to his head? Nateevs, your boy simply does not have the raw numbers. That's all!

Fabregas is the one that bothers me the most. I have raised my concerns about him on these pages severally. We still don't know his best position! The assists from his deep position (mostly from dead balls) covered up a lot last season. He has never shone in the hole. Make e chop bench.


With Ivanovic in the dungeons, proper coaching and tactics would solve most of our defensive woes.

If everyman is available, make we reason something like this for a coupla games:

------------Courtois-----------
--Azpi---Cahill---Terry--Baba--
----Willian---Matic---Oscar----
----Pedro---Costa---Hazard---

raumdeuter:
You see top clubs like Barca, Bayern and Madrid in the last year clearing house with players that are club icons(Xavi, Schweini and Casillas) which were not popular decisions among section of the fans and more would happen in the next 2yrs in those clubs but Chelsea still want to hold on to Ivanovic, Ramires, Mikel and Terry for sentimental reasons.
This cannot be true. We Let Cech, Drogba and Lampard go almost unceremoniously. You would struggle to find players of greater stature ever being associated with Chelsea. So who the fück are Ivanovic, Ramires and Mikel? On what sentiments are we holding on to eternal waste-men like Mikel and Ramires?

Atletico beat Chelsea next thing raid them for Costa
You are just going with popular rubbish now. We had locked in on Costa long before we encountered Atleti. Chelsea's interest in him had been reported from as far back as 2013!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/diego-costa-chelsea-transfer-target-2480742
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Pataki: 2:19pm On Sep 15, 2015
^^^ Courtois is out for the next three months.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chelseafan1: 2:20pm On Sep 15, 2015
So many intelligent points here, so aside the every week banters and parties on this thread, club rivals can come up with intelligent posts after all...

I'm impressed. smileysmiley

Long live Coogar, Raumdeuter, Pataki and everyone who has posted on this thread.

If Man u lose tonight, we go still party sha. tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nitlad: 2:25pm On Sep 15, 2015
Pataki:
^^^ Courtois is out for the next three months.
shocked shocked shocked

But Begovic is a good enough deputy, no?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Mourinholic(m): 2:29pm On Sep 15, 2015
Mourinho out now for his presser, with a
crew cut - as he did at start of 2005-06 to
show they were "ready for battle".

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chestar5(f): 2:37pm On Sep 15, 2015
Pataki:
Some of us are like that. We are like UN soldiers. You will find us transporting Syrian refugees across the length and breadth of Europe. Drinking other people's panadol is our energizer. We ensure world peace is everywhere. Dopejemi na area manure boy. Pataki will find a correct guy that you can place your head upon in these difficult relegation times that your beloved club is entangled in. embarassed
i dont even know what to say about ur problem cry.....than sorry embarassed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Pataki: 2:41pm On Sep 15, 2015
nitlad:
shocked shocked shocked

But Begovic is a good enough deputy, no?
15 saves in 216 minutes of play sounds fairly reasonable for a deputy I guess. No? Compared with Petr Cech who has had 16 saves in 450 minutes of play.

This implies for me (correct me if I am wrong), Chelsea would have conceeded more goals if they had a rubbish deputy as a goalkeeper. Begovic sounds like a good deputy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Pataki: 2:42pm On Sep 15, 2015
Chestar5:
i dont even know what to say about ur problem cry.....than sorry embarassed
Aiight. Do have a nice day Miss!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chestar5(f): 2:43pm On Sep 15, 2015
19:45 Paris Saint Germain

Malmoe FF

Wants Psg to win this one cheesy

19:45 Real Madrid

Shakhtar Donetsk

Shakhtar donetsk i wish cry

15 Sep

19:45 PSV Eindhoven

Manchester United

Psv, i love u kiss

19:45 Wolfsburg

CSKA Moscow

Wolfsburg, my german club afta bayern wink

15 Sep
19:45 Benfica

FC Astana

Benefica will do this, sure thingsmiley

19:45 Galatasaray

Atletico Madrid

Diego, my crush....athletico all the way grin

15 Sep

19:45 Manchester City

Juventus

Juventus, carry go....dont give dem any chance angry

19:45 Sevilla

Borussia Moenchengladbach

Thorgan hazard, am watching you wink


Thats my prediction.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 2:49pm On Sep 15, 2015
Chestar5:
@nateevs, i dont know if my opinion is needed but chelsea problem is psycological
Chelsea problem is mourinho
Chelsea problem is Ivanovic
Chelsea problem is Chelsea
We need new tactics, bench lazy iva a while and lets see if he can get his vibe back.....
Bpl teams really prepared well mentally for this season, with big money they generated they made neccessary changes...

One mistake chelsea made was against mancity, our weakness was spotted and we failed to see it instead we signed pedro, good signing but dat was not our flaws..... Oscar injury sort of messed things up a little....other teams saw this flaw, and we were punished....

I dont know d solution to the problem, all i can hope is for us to be back with a bang....i know that this season will be full of suprises, i just hope we have a positive one...

#BRINGBACKOURCHELSEAcheesy

signed by a concerned blues supporterwink
U funny sha! Why wont ur opinion be needed?? So long as u're a Chelsea fan on a Chelsea thread, ur opinions could even be priceless. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a bloody racist...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 2:54pm On Sep 15, 2015
Which one is all this hand holding & ass kissing?? Even Coogar sef come here dey analyse...*hisses*

Wats my own wit where Chelsea's problems lie??

Abeg! Abeg! Abeg! I'm wit Dopejemi on this one. May the woes, wailing and gnashing of teeth continue long after Arsenal deal wit u people on Saturday.

KTWFFH! Keep The Wailing Flag Flying High!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dopeJemi: 3:03pm On Sep 15, 2015
Chelseafan1:
After the mockeries, insults, e-fights and all, we need to be serious, have reasonable and intellectual debates, no be every time person go dey do like weyrey up and down, now is the time to be reasonable, join in the discussion and drop this for now.

No offence.winkwink
Never, una don come our thread come have "reasonable and intellectual" debate before?

Leave am, I wan do like weyrey left and right sef


Anything that will make shell-sea escape relegation this season, I cast, bind and destroy


[size=18pt]LONG MAY YOUR WOES CONTINUE


KTBFFL[/size] angry angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chestar5(f): 3:09pm On Sep 15, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
U funny sha! Why wont ur opinion be needed?? So long as u're a Chelsea fan on a Chelsea thread, ur opinions could even be priceless. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a bloody racist...
okay have heard, but dis ur comment shock me until i saw ur next comment after this.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by codedguy1(m): 3:20pm On Sep 15, 2015
@ Pataki,

You sef dey contribute for wetin follow make chelsea hug relegation position.

You better tell that your useless team to do the needful this wkend. The problem is Arsenal can never be trusted.

Dopejemi am with on this jare! Chelsea for relegation!!! Championship is calling.



grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bimffo(m): 3:28pm On Sep 15, 2015
Actually, I love all the comments and posts so far.


As Nihilist pointed out, Fab has always been a liability defensively, but his output offensively covered for that..

Also Ibime pointed out 2 years ago, that Ivanovic has always been raped by any fast attacking left midfielder like Montero.

So the right side of our defence/Midfield has been shitty since last season and only few knew this because we were getting good results.



My 'main' problem does not lie in the defence, it lies in our attack. The same defensive problems were present last season, and we still coped..

(We tried and strengthen the defence by bringing Baba into the fray. So that should settle it. Though we should have gotten another good midfielder, but we didn't, so we have to cope with the situation)


The solution??

I think Hazard needs to step Up. In every team, there is always a star player. Hazard is our star player no matter how Dayo hates. We need that urgency from him.

2ndly, Costa needs to drop all these dogs' fight and face his primary assignment on the pitch. We need him to be focused.

Fab should try and help us offensively. He does nothing on the pitch these days, and he is a target for Opponents these days. Actually to me, he is our weakest link.


If Hazard, Costa and Fab can get back to their very best ASAP, it would have been better.


Lastly, Mou should give RLC a chance! and giving Ivanovic a seat belt on the bench shouldn't be a problem.


In Mou's Press conference today. He pointed out that Baba is available for tomorrow's game, so we should expect Apzi, Cahill, Terry and Baba in defence tomorrow.



[size=30pt] PS: We dont have to Panic. Its just 5 matches! When we beat Arsenal on Saturday we will just be 3 points behind them. We need all the fans behind the team. At home and Abroad! [/size]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Pataki: 3:29pm On Sep 15, 2015
codedguy1:
@ Pataki,

You sef dey contribute for wetin follow make chelsea hug relegation position.

You better tell that your useless team to do the needful this wkend. The problem is Arsenal can never be trusted.

Dopejemi am with on this jare! Chelsea for relegation!!! Championship is calling.



grin
Once shekpe enters fully the relegation table holders, you will never see me making comments or wearing aso-ebi on this thread again. grin

I have no further business with Championship contenders.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Keky(m): 3:36pm On Sep 15, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Which one is all this hand holding & ass kissing?? Even Coogar sef come here dey analyse...*hisses*

Wats my own wit where Chelsea's problems lie??

Abeg! Abeg! Abeg! I'm wit Dopejemi on this one. May the woes, wailing and gnashing of teeth continue long after Arsenal deal wit u people on Saturday.

KTWFFH! Keep The Wailing Flag Flying High!!

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by codedguy1(m): 3:37pm On Sep 15, 2015
Pataki:
Once shekpe enters fully the relegation table holders, you will never see me making comments or wearing aso-ebi on this thread again. grin

I have no further business with Championship contenders.
Just make sure you guys do the business this wkend abeg.

WHEN Chelsea finally starts playing in the championship, party go dey shele for here every wkend wether they win or lose.
grin grin

As per Aso-ebi, na baba suwe tailor we go give the contract.

grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Pataki: 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2015
codedguy1:
Just make sure you guys do the business this wkend abeg.

WHEN Chelsea finally starts playing in the championship, party go dey shele for here every wkend wether they win or lose.
grin grin

As per Aso-ebi, na baba suwe tailor we go give the contract.

grin
Arsenal will deliver on Saturday. No shaking my guy. Meanwhile parrie dey turn up for manure thread tonight. Tomorrow na Ramudeen's thread e go happen live. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chestar5(f): 3:48pm On Sep 15, 2015
Bimffo:
Actually, I love all the comments and posts so far.


As Nihilist pointed out, Fab has always been a liability defensively, but his output offensively covered for that..

Also Ibime pointed out 2 years ago, that Ivanovic has always been raped by any fast attacking left midfielder like Montero.

So the right side of our defence/Midfield has been shitty since last season and only few knew this because we were getting good results.



My 'main' problem does not lie in the defence, it lies in our attack. The same defensive problems were present last season, and we still coped..

(We tried and strengthen the defence by bringing Baba into the fray. So that should settle it. Though we should have gotten another good midfielder, but we didn't, so we have to cope with the situation)


The solution??

I think Hazard needs to step Up. In every team, there is always a star player. Hazard is our star player no matter how Dayo hates. We need that urgency from him.

2ndly, Costa needs to drop all these dogs' fight and face his primary assignment on the pitch. We need him to be focused.

Fab should try and help us offensively. He does nothing on the pitch these days, and he is a target for Opponents these days. Actually to me, he is our weakest link.


If Hazard, Costa and Fab can get back to their very best ASAP, it would have been better.


Lastly, Mou should give RLC a chance! and giving Ivanovic a seat belt on the bench shouldn't be a problem.


In Mou's Press conference today. He pointed out that Baba is available for tomorrow's game, so we should expect Apzi, Cahill, Terry and Baba in defence tomorrow.



[size=30pt] PS: We dont have to Panic. Its just 5 matches! When we beat Arsenal on Saturday we will just be 3 points behind them. We need all the fans behind the team. At home and Abroad! [/size]
[size=40pt] GBAM!!! [/size]
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 3:58pm On Sep 15, 2015
Keky and those him pictures sef angry
U beta bekiafu

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chelseafan1: 4:08pm On Sep 15, 2015
dopeJemi:
Never, una don come our thread come have "reasonable and intellectual" debate before?

Leave am, I wan do like weyrey left and right sef


Anything that will make shell-sea escape relegation this season, I cast, bind and destroy


[size=18pt]LONG MAY YOUR WOES CONTINUE


KTBFFL[/size] angry angry
Lmao....u and I know its never gonna continue like this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 4:09pm On Sep 15, 2015
Chestar5:
okay have heard, but dis ur comment shock me until i saw ur next comment after this.....
No let am shock u jare. We haters will bask in the predicament and new found status ur club has found itself in!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:14pm On Sep 15, 2015
We all know the issue in midfield and the issue with Ivanovic.

However, I will add that 3 weeks preseason is partly to blame due to the lucrative trip to the far-east at the end of last season. The club expected to gain fitness by playing over the first few weeks but we were handed a difficult fixture list.

The other problem is Mourinho has become an oppressive presence on the training ground. Since the board did not back him through the summer with signings, he has been short-tempered, neurotic and acting erratically. This is creating an oppressive presence on the training ground. Players and staff are said to run and hide behind doors when he is walking through the corridor.

Jose performed a miracle to get that team to win the EPL last season. The board thought it would easily be replicated and refused to back him. He has been brooding over it all summer (I could see it from all his press conferences) and it has created a poisonous atmosphere in the club.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 4:14pm On Sep 15, 2015
We all know the issue in midfield and the issue with Ivanovic.

However, I will add that 3 weeks preseason is partly to blame due to the lucrative trip to the far-east at the end of last season. The club expected to gain fitness by playing over the first few weeks but we were handed a difficult fixture list.

The other problem is Mourinho has become an oppressive presence on the training ground. Since the board did not back him through the summer with signings, he has been short-tempered, neurotic and acting erratically. This is creating an oppressive presence on the training ground. Players and staff are said to run and hid behind doors when he is walking through the corridor.

Jose performed a miracle to get that team to win the EPL last season. The board thought it would easily be replicated and refused to back him. He has been brooding over it all summer (I could see it from all his press conferences) and it has created a poisonous atmosphere in the club.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Sep 15, 2015
Nihilist:
Thank you Dayo,

You've spoken well.

Again I refer you to Man City. Bar Sterling, they are playing the same 1st team squad as last season.

Yet when in their last game of last season, they conceded seven shots on target, they've now conceded the same number of shots in total over the last five games.

The same backline.

Mangala and Kompany that were one of the most useless CB pairing in the league have now improved so much since May that 35 million pound Otamendi that was brought to improve the team can't even make the bench.

So it's not a case of 'buying to improve' that was necessarily needed in City's case.


Attacking wise, Silva and Sterling were out of last game, Aguero was taken out after 25 minutes. The guy that got the goal was Kelechi Iheanocho....not a 74 million pound striker....but Kelechi Iheanacho. That's another nail in the 'buy to improve argument'
I would start with your City reference. Looking at City who are the major difference, Sagna for Zabaleta, Kolarov for Clichy. These 2 internal competition have brought out more from the players. What do you think Zab, Otamendi and Clichy would be doing in training right now? Probably killing themselves and in game days what would Kolarov, Mangala and Sagna be doing probably staying on their toes because any slip up someone is waiting on the sidelines

Check Chelsea, Who is the realistic replacement for your pack 4 of Iva-Cahill-Terry and Azpi? Just Zouma. At least 2-3 of your defenders are underperforming yet no one to keep them on their toes. Also talking about City. Yaya had a dip in form last yr and you dont expect that to continue. What happens on the field starts in training. When Navas sees Sterling and De bruyne in training who are better rated than him, do you think he would still be playing those blind crosses?


If you must be realistic, the reason why Madrid and Barca dominate so much in World Football is that they simply have the best players. It is that simple.

No amount of players you buy for now will equal the output of Ronaldo or Messi.
Messi and Ronaldo while being Marquee wouldnt achieve much without the backup. If there was no Rakitic last season or Di maria upper season both messi and Ronaldo might be trophyless in those seasons. Its someone behind the Ronaldo and Messi that makes them work

When bayern won the CL Ribery was the standout performer but when Javi martinez was not there, Ribery would do his own and our defence would still leak and waste all his effort. Ronaldo did his part last season scoring lots of goals but the moment Modric went down That was it and his 60 goals were wasted

For all your talk about Bayern's scouting....you guys only have 1 UCL win in the last 10 years....same as Chelsea. So in absolute terms, you have not fared better in Europe even with your so called 'Better Scouting'
Between 2000 and 2010 Bayern had 1 CL, Porto had 1 CL, Chelsea had none. If you were to analyse as at 2009 which was the more likely team to win the CL who would you pick? As at today if you are to say who would likely win a CL between Bayern, Madrid Inter and Chelsea who would rank top and who would be below(Note all have 1 CL each in the past 10yrs)

Now what's the problem with Chelsea? I think it's 3 fold:

1. Teams have done their homework. My BiL plays pro Rugby for a team that just got promoted the the Aviva premiership. Despite their small size and the comparative lack of money in Rugby, his club employs two match analysts who film and analyse their opposition for weeks, edit the films into little clips, and send it to their iPads.

Now imagine what EPL teams with their riches are doing. Why is every single team attacking our right flank?

Chelsea have conceded more chances from the right flank than any other team in the league. In fact I think, we've conceded over 10 more than the team in second place.
Teams have analysed CFC and seen that Ivanovic tollgate is the surest route to the box.
While its easy to pick on Ivanovic I doubt thats the only problem. Are you saying If you replaced Only Ivanovic you would have won all your games?

Chamberlains goal in the shield didnt come from Ivanovic, Naismiths 3rd goal didnt come from Ivanovic. he is just a convenient target right now.

Teams analyze every team. Do you think they were just analyzing Chelsea and not analyzing Man City? or not Analyzing Barca?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:25pm On Sep 15, 2015
Mourinholic:
Who hacked this account and what you done to DAYO?
But more seriously, while all your points are very right.....It can't be the reason why we have lost 3 out of 4.
Take a look at Dortmund, last season and now...
The City of last season is not too different from this current team ....
Its psychological
Do you think this was the same Dortmund of last season? They have made a lot of changes starting from tactics. They have departed from klopps heavy metal gegen-pressing and they now handle possesion better.

Before they would just be waiting for opportunity to counter at speed or pressure the opponent, now they are holding possesion and thinking creatively. this has helped a lot of their players to play much better e.g Mkhitaryan now looks like a completely different player
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:28pm On Sep 15, 2015
coogar:
the drive and the desire are seriously lacking this time.
it's not a question of quality or fatigue. wetin be fatigue?
the average age of man city squad is 28.1, that of chelsea is 26.1
in a nutshell, city players are much older across the board and yet they have maintained 100% without conceding a goal.
I dont think its just drive and desire. No Chelsea player, coach or fan needs any drive or encouragement when he takes to the field against Arsenal or City. Its like saying a Madrid club lacked drive or desire when its time to face Barca, Atletico or Bayern

For like 20 attempts Mourinho didnt lose to Wenger until this year. How come the desire just dropped? now and not in the previous 20 attempts
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by landinfo: 4:37pm On Sep 15, 2015
Ibime:
We all know the issue in midfield and the issue with Ivanovic.

However, I will add that 3 weeks preseason is partly to blame due to the lucrative trip to the far-east at the end of last season. The club expected to gain fitness by playing over the first few weeks but we were handed a difficult fixture list.

The other problem is Mourinho has become an oppressive presence on the training ground. Since the board did not back him through the summer with signings, he has been short-tempered, neurotic and acting erratically. This is creating an oppressive presence on the training ground. Players and staff are said to run and hid behind doors when he is walking through the corridor.

Jose performed a miracle to get that team to win the EPL last season. The board thought it would easily be replicated and refused to back him. He has been brooding over it all summer (I could see it from all his press conferences) and it has created a poisonous atmosphere in the club.
All these are xcuses upon xcuses....when the victory waz sweet last season, we were all hearing sweet sermons of how Moanrinho has alwayz been the best since God created the heavenz & earth.

Like I alwayz ask Chel.shit fans, if u guyz had had a perfect record like City is currently doing, would all this rantings/xcuses be seen or heardhuh

I believe this is a phase that affects every club, there is alwayz a bad moment but it would turn around for good later.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:42pm On Sep 15, 2015
Pataki:
Could it be that the players are tired after hard fought games from the last season? No I doubt it. Did Chelsea really put up an outstanding performance last season? NO! Every other team were caught napping and Chelsea seized the moment and capitalized on it. Before we knew it, they were points ahead and remained focused to the end of last season.

So what has really changed? Where did it all go wrong for this team? My personal opinion is that the buck starts and ends with Mourinho. He is solely responsible for the outcome and poor results Chelsea has so far churned out. He seems to be living in a different reality to what the modern game of football is now dictating. His thoughts seems scattered and all over the place. His pride and stubborness seems to have gotten a better hold of him.

For examples, when Chelsea were displaying poor preseason games, he termed preseason to be a fake. Seriously? Those were the early warning signs that something is wrong somewhere. Those saying he should go and beg Eva; that is absolute bumkum! Chelsea started losing way before the Eva issue started.

When Chelsea played against Arsenal, the poor form of Ivanovic was not even visible and known at that time. Tactically, Mourinho lost it. Rather than Mourinho living up to the reality of the loss for the first time against Wenger, he came up with an excuse: Community Shield is for losers, Arsenal were playing with 11 men behind the ball, bla bla bla.

Moving into the EPL proper, Chelsea began their game against Swansea. Ended in a draw, and a red card if I remember correctly now. Mourinho decided to scapegoat Eva. Labelling her as naive due to theatric from Eden Hazard. Made a public show of shame of that lady. Trust the English press, they made so much noise and issue out of this. Chelsea players are not oblivious to this kind of internal wranglings and distractions which will surely have an effect on their game.

Moving on further, Chelsea faced ManCity. This was the height of delusion from Mourinho. I remember during his press conference when asked a question about coaches staying in the club even when they are not productive as such, he had to in anecdote refer and insult Wenger. Yet again, the English press made a spectacle out of it. Mourinho has suddenly developed this atmosphere of making everything about Chelsea all about him. When Chelsea lost against ManCity, this was the height of delusion by coming out to say, the better team in the second half lost! Seriously?! The same so-called better team that gulped in two goals in the second half? Did we all watch the same game or Mourinho watched a different game entirely?

For those probably thinking Jose is naive, I don't think he is. This is the same Jose who without any fear or reservations, pulled out a John Terry immediately it became clear that the dude was not up to the game against ManCity. Ivanovic might be the weakest link in the team, but I think in the mind of Jose, he is considering who can effectively replace Ivanovic within this team? Jose's area of strength has always been in the defence. However, I don't think he is living in the reality of what every other Chelsea fan is seeing of Ivanovic at the moment.

Or maybe he is actually seeing the plot but he is clueless about the effective solution. Against Crystal Palace, after the match he came up with the excuse that he needed four substitutions in the game. This however indicates that Jose Mourinho is confused tactically about the present squad.

Lastly, buying players he himself admitted was not his own making but from someone he trusts 100% smacks of someone who is excuse ready for the exit should the ruthless Russian lose his marbles about Jose's continued poor performance.......
I agree with most of this. I think its a typical English response. to give excuse for failings and find something else to blame. Its probably a cluture of blame shifting. I remember when german football was shitty in the early 2000. the DFB called a meeting and unanimously agreed that they were shitt and cant compete in International football if they continue like that. Do you think there was no excuse they could give?

EPL clubs were failing in the CL when its obvious that the quality of the league has dropped, they chose to blame other things like Winter break. Right now some are already blaming winter break when they are less than 5 weeks in the new season. Was there winter break when EPL teams were dominating Europe between 05-11? Or did the weather change from then?

Next thing they say fatique. How can you be fatiqued 6weeks into the new season. What do you now want Barca to say? Some of Barca players didnt even resume to training until like 4weeks ago while Hazard Terry and Costa who didnt have any summer engagement are saying they are fatiqued.

Some are saying teams now prepare for them, Dont these teams prepare for Barca, City and those doing well? Didnt the same clubs prepare for you last season.

To not improve is to regress. Mourinho and management wanted to go through a new season with the same players from last season. Barca that are on transfer ban have even added players who would start playing officially from january. Also with the transfer failures Like I said things have changed from when Chelsea was the only rich club and could afford to buy Kezman, Del Horno, Maniche, SWP, Essien Lass Diarra, kalou, Sheva, Bhoularouz, Jarosik, Cole Ballack and only 2 would fit in 9 would fail, next season buy another 11 2 good 9fail

Nowadays there are like 5 clubs with money and ready to match you. So your scouting has to be better than those days of playing dice with transfers
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