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Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 6:24am On Sep 21, 2015
onismate:
Guy I just dey notice you and this your saraki guy Alliance. You are a die hard saraki fan. Abi he bought you Christmass clothes last year.? Anyway, am just observing, because in Nigerian politics, anything can happen. This one you are just hyping him that he would survive this political attack, you might just wake up one day with a heart attack because your saraki had been impeached. Or just as you are wishing. He may survive it and become stronger and powerful. The forces against him are much stronger and plenty
Yes the forces against him are strong but he is more politically savvy than those buffons!! It would look like another Mayweather vs Paccaio encounter when the 'powerful' Paccaio lost to a more savvy Mayweather.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by sdindan: 6:25am On Sep 21, 2015
I Stand By Saraki.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by onismate: 6:30am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
Yes the forces against him are strong but he is more politically savvy than those buffons!! It would look like another Mayweather vs Paccaio encounter when the 'powerful' Paccaio lost to a more savvy Mayweather.
to be sincere with you, Nigeria's political institution is too soft and fragile. One can easily predict what will happen to this Saraki's case. But this Saraki's case is a litmus test for the Buhari led Government, both judiciary and executive arm of Government. If this Government can handle it properly with interference as Bubu has said, and defeat saraki. That means they are serious.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by dammytosh: 6:40am On Sep 21, 2015
Tearg1:
Hey nairalandera, some selfish forces are trying to covert our democracy for their own benefit. We must kick against them by fire by force.

Let's remain United and stand firm with our independently minded Senate President at this time of trial.....


Saraki is here to STAY......TINUBU CAN GO TO HELL WITH HIS FROG EYES...
You need help with your bastardized mindset

So Tinubu helped him steal all the ill gotten wealth ?

Tinubu sold the house he declared even before they sold it years later.

Tinubu killed Savannah Bank ?

Tinubu converted all the Kwara resources into his own.

So Saraki is a saint because he is 'independently minded'
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by kolnel: 6:58am On Sep 21, 2015
Very baseless argument
All this people supporting saraki are the same people that supported Jonathan even with all the overwhelming facts against Jonathan
One thing I can't really fathom is what is in for them.
What they stand to gain
Saraki himself knows he has no plan for the common masses
Coming to forum like this stop you wondering why Nigeria might never change for the better
I will be on the lookout for placards carrying people with similar handwriting on the placards on channels TV this morning
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by gboly3190(m): 7:15am On Sep 21, 2015
Any Nigerian that protest against the investigation of anybody needs deliverance and a fundamental shift in their thought process.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Dakad: 7:16am On Sep 21, 2015
If you are a youth, then Nigeria is doomed.
Tearg1:
Hey nairalandera, some selfish forces are trying to covert our democracy for their own benefit. We must kick against them by fire by force.

Let's remain United and stand firm with our independently minded Senate President at this time of trial.....


Saraki is here to STAY......TINUBU CAN GO TO HELL WITH HIS FROG EYES...
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by otr1(m): 7:39am On Sep 21, 2015
dialfa:
dictatorial witch hunting is not trial
Point of correction...this is thief-hunting and not witch-hunt. Please, be properly guided.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by otr1(m): 7:42am On Sep 21, 2015
dammytosh:
You need help with your bastardized mindset

So Tinubu helped him steal all the ill gotten wealth ?

Tinubu sold the house he declared even before they sold it years later.

Tinubu killed Savannah Bank ?

Tinubu converted all the Kwara resources into his own.

So Saraki is a saint because he is 'independently minded'
Those supporting this thief have no brain.
Imagine a single family grounding four banks?
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by superstar1(m): 7:45am On Sep 21, 2015
A stand with Saraki, is standing with corruption and looting of poeple's commonwealth.

OP, you and your Saraki can go to blazes. You are also a corrupt person and a loiter in the making, waiting for the nearest golden opportunity to fleece us like Saraki.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 7:54am On Sep 21, 2015
Gbawe:
It is called politics and not "dictatorial witch hunting" . Saraki , because of unbridled personal ambition, made himself someone the APC and Buhari cannot trust, It is clear the ruling Party feel they have a senate President who is only with them in name but a PDP devotee at heart. What do you want them to do if serious about delivering good governance? Allow Saraki, in a very important position, to be a cog in the wheel of progress and development or remove him so that the APC is in full control of how it wants to do things?

Remove sentiments from your outlook and you will see that Saraki's position is not tenable. I was talking to a Nigerian Senator last night and he told me "Saraki is gone" disdainfully. No one likes the guy and there is deep bitterness over what he did . The effort to remove him and cut him down to size has broad backing. You don't do what Saraki did only to turn round and start shouting "witch hunting" as you do here when those you treacherously betrayed decide to use legitimate means to deal with you.
If Saraki is removed as Senate President today, who will the APC use to replace him?
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by 989900: 8:03am On Sep 21, 2015
I stand by Saraki too, as long as he goes to the CCT to prove his innocence. wink
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 8:37am On Sep 21, 2015
i guess the OP has CTE. It only someone with CTE, that will have a shallow thinking just like the hope.

HE (Saraki) should go and defend himself in CCT.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Goke7: 8:53am On Sep 21, 2015
Those who are supporting saraki esp the pdp are the biggest headache saraki himself is having, they are the ones making saraki to be seen as a pdp member by the apc. you will expect the pdp and its supporters to be happy that there is infighting within the apc which may be beneficial to them in the long run but with they way they keep supporting saraki, Buhari and the apc will continue to see saraki as an enemy within that must be gotten rid of and they will go at any length to achieve that.

The last time I checked saraki is still an apc member so why can't pdp allow apc to fight themselves wella, afterall they told PMB to start the anti-corruption crusade from his own party.

This was how they supported GEJ till they drown him finally
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Goke7: 8:54am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
Yes the forces against him are strong but he is more politically savvy than those buffons!! It would look like another Mayweather vs Paccaio encounter when the 'powerful' Paccaio lost to a more savvy Mayweather.
I laugh in spanish at the bolded, savvy my foot! grin
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Gbawe: 9:06am On Sep 21, 2015
onismate:
to be sincere with you, Nigeria's political institution is too soft and fragile. One can easily predict what will happen to this Saraki's case. But this Saraki's case is a litmus test for the Buhari led Government, both judiciary and executive arm of Government. If this Government can handle it properly with interference as Bubu has said, and defeat saraki. That means they are serious.
100% correct. This is what is on the line. Failure is not an option for Buhari , in a litmus test as you put it, because of his need to show his government will be about zero tolerance for the sort of political mischief, judicial gangsterism and corruption the PDP used to mire Nigeria in underdevelopment for the past 16 years.

The entire world, to include the USA which has condemned it openly, know that justice is for sale in Nigeria. Institutional decay is synonymous with Nigeria. Worldwide the perception is that the rich and powerful never pay for their crimes. Instead, they pay off those in charge of the justice system. We all saw Jonathan directly intervene to help Teslim Folarin beat a murder trial. That was a big low for Nigeria.

Buhari knows what is at stake if he wants the help and benevolence of the international community that has always looked at Nigeria as a nation where anything goes. Nigeria is not an Island and we will get better if the international community assist us because they feel they can trust us to do the right thing in terms of governance. There has to be a clear signal that things are different now. The USA, UK, France et al were lukewarm towards Jonathan because they realised he is a con artist who stood for nothing. Buhari will be aware he can only get the broad assistance which will help him succeed if he shows that things are no longer business as usual. I would like to see how the judiciary would frustrate a determined President who feel he has a point to prove with this Saraki saga. I repeat that Buhari is not GEJ.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Gbawe: 9:07am On Sep 21, 2015
SovietBomber:
If Saraki is removed as Senate President today, who will the APC use to replace him?
Their original choice.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by TheFreeOne: 9:09am On Sep 21, 2015
Gbawe:
It is called politics and not "dictatorial witch hunting" . Saraki , because of unbridled personal ambition, made himself someone the APC and Buhari cannot trust. It is clear the ruling Party feel they have a senate President who is only with them in name but a PDP devotee at heart. What do you want them to do if serious about delivering good governance? Allow Saraki, in a very important position, to be a cog in the wheel of progress and development or remove him so that the APC is in full control of how it wants to do things?

Remove sentiments from your outlook and you will see that Saraki's position is not tenable. I was talking to a Nigerian Senator last night and he told me "Saraki is gone" disdainfully. No one likes the guy and there is deep bitterness over what he did . The effort to remove him and cut him down to size has broad backing. You don't do what Saraki did only to turn round and start shouting "witch hunting" as you do here when those you treacherously betrayed decide to use legitimate means to deal with you.
HYPOCRISY

I'll like to believe you ain't a kid and not suffering from dementia.

Did the name Tambuwal rings a bell huh So Sarakis' senate ambition and its outcome is POLITICS too.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Gbawe: 10:31am On Sep 21, 2015
TheFreeOne:
HYPOCRISY

I'll like to believe you ain't a kid and not suffering from dementia.

Did the name Tambuwal rings a bell huh So Sarakis' senate ambition and its outcome is POLITICS too.
the fact is that insult is all you have in your armoury and this is why you cannot appreciate the crux of the matter. The Saraki situation is not the same as that of Tambuwal. Both defected from the political Party that gave them power. This happens all the time worldwide and no pragmatically sensible person would lose sleep over this. Saraki, unlike Tambuwal, went beyond defection alone. He directly plotted to give the opposition Party a powerful position and platform (DSP) so he could be senate President. I think any reasonable person, even if they are big haters of the APC, will understand why the ruling Party will feel it must deal with Saraki. Impunity grows if misconduct is not punished. Not every leader is like GEJ who operated with a mentality of ignoring wrongdoings.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by TheFreeOne: 10:43am On Sep 21, 2015
Gbawe:
the fact is that insult is all you have in your armoury and this is why you cannot appreciate the crux of the matter. The Saraki situation is not the same as that of Tambuwal. Both defected from the political Party that gave them power. This happens all the time worldwide and no pragmatically sensible person would lose sleep over this. Saraki, unlike Tambuwal, went beyond defection alone. He directly plotted to give the opposition Party a powerful position and platform (DSP) so he could be senate President. I think any reasonable person, even if they are big haters of the APC, will understand why the ruling Party will feel it must deal with Saraki. Impunity grows if misconduct is not punished. Not every leader is like GEJ who operated with a mentality of ignoring wrongdoings.
Wrongdoings huh Politics is all about interests.

Does the constitution not stated that leaders of the NASS be elected amongst themselves huh Or is the Deputy senate president not a member of the senate huh
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by tomakint: 10:46am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
The fact remains that the like mind senators are still in the majority!! Even if all the APC unite(which is very unlikely) they still wont have the numbers to impeach him!! This is not about what the president want rather it is about what he can do within the limit of his powers!!.
You keep tagging the 'Like-minds' like they matter in this case huh the question is this, how many Senators make up the numbers then and now...Saraki is losing big time
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by yetunsbay(m): 10:49am On Sep 21, 2015
@op. desist from early morning weed
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by tomakint: 10:58am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
Yes the forces against him are strong but he is more politically savvy than those buffons!! It would look like another Mayweather vs Paccaio encounter when the 'powerful' Paccaio lost to a more savvy Mayweather.
@ the bolden, ...........

Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 11:00am On Sep 21, 2015
tomakint:
You keep tagging the 'Like-minds' like they matter in this case huh the question is this, how many Senators make up the numbers then and now...Saraki is losing big time
57 senators make up the like minds group and the last time I checked that was majority in a 108 no senate
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Andyg: 11:01am On Sep 21, 2015
Op, u are high on weed mixed with agama lizard shit. like Oga like boyi boyi
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 11:01am On Sep 21, 2015
TheFreeOne:
Wrongdoings huh Politics is all about interests.

Does the constitution not stated that leaders of the NASS be elected amongst themselves huh Or is the Deputy senate president not a member of the senate huh
Dont mind the hypocrites!! Tambuwal decamped to the APC and retained his position as speaker they all hailed him and today nemesis have finally caught up with them
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Nobody: 11:04am On Sep 21, 2015
Gbawe:
Their original choice.
Lol!! First things first!! Get the nos to impeach him before talking about the APC's original choice!!lets even assumed Saraki is removed by the CCB(virtually impossible) The like minds sentaors are still in the majority and might just pick up Dino Melaye as SP
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by tomakint: 11:06am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
57 senators make up the like minds group and the last time I checked that was majority in a 108 no senate
That was the number then.....I am asking of their number strength now.......in case you don't know, you have just been GAMED. Saraki will not survive this WEEK!
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Gbawe: 11:07am On Sep 21, 2015
TheFreeOne:
Wrongdoings huh Politics is all about interests.

Does the constitution not stated that leaders of the NASS be elected amongst themselves huh Or is the Deputy senate president not a member of the senate huh
Are you for real? So you think it is okay for Saraki, because he felt he was not the choice of the APC, to help the PDP, who deserved nothing at all, to gain the position of deputy senate President? If the APC does not deal with Saraki for this fundamentally unforgivable treachery that embarrassed the Party then they will end up like the PDP where strong yet lawless individuals brought down the Party. The APC has many PDP defectors but they must learn to conduct themselves the APC way and not try to bring PDP style politics to the ruling Party. That is the lesson they will teach Saraki and others will learn from it.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by tomakint: 11:12am On Sep 21, 2015
chukwudi44:
Lol!! First things first!! Get the nos to impeach him before talking about the APC's original choice!!lets even assumed Saraki is removed by the CCB(virtually impossible) The like minds sentaors are still in the majority and might just pick up Dino Melaye as SP
@ the bolden, I think at this juncture I have to admit you should take a shot at comedy you will just be fine grin grin Dino Melaye for Senate President - Chukwudi44 grin cheesy

Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Gbawe: 11:17am On Sep 21, 2015
tomakint:
You keep tagging the 'Like-minds' like they matter in this case huh the question is this, how many Senators make up the numbers then and now...Saraki is losing big time
Don't mind him. Pa Chukwudi is just sentimental to the core. An influential Senator told me Saturday, and I quote, "Saraki is gone. He is a dead man walking". Yet the likes of Chukwudi never do reality. I would like to see Saraki survive this against a hardliner and former military General i.e Buhari. I know you are a GEJ fan but the fact is that Buhari is very different to Jonathan in approach and mentality. You are taught not to compromise with the enemy in the army. This notion will live with Buhari till he dies and Saraki embarrassed and undermined him seriously. I don't think Buhari will accept anything less than the removal of Saraki. Just my personal opinion though.
Re: Protect Our Democracy.. I Stand With Saraki by Tearg1(op): 11:18am On Sep 21, 2015
superstar1:
A stand with Saraki, is standing with corruption and looting of poeple's commonwealth.

OP, you and your Saraki can go to blazes. You are also a corrupt person and a loiter in the making, waiting for the nearest golden opportunity to fleece us like Saraki.
Listen bro, I'm not here to seek for favours. I own a 2014 Bentley C.GT ..so watch yourself before you yarn dust.

I have every right to express my political belief most especially when those who promised us change are dividing the country up like it's a plc company.

When Saraki was campaigning for them why did they not bring up his past? Greedy power hungry wolves.
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