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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:49am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar:Last ten years? How old was Neymar, Sanchez n hazard last ten years? Or you mean to say last 5 years. Where were you last season when hazard was running riot on epl defenders that awarded him epl POTY, show me Neymar n Sanchez individual award last season? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 9:51am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar:Oh,we should look at goals scored,assist made,open goals and penalties.... and in the same comment I can see Scholes >Lampard and Gerrard........How is he better You are special |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 9:56am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinholic: you are a late comer to this thread. i have already used stats to prove scholes scored more open goals, made more open play assists per minute than any of gerrard/lampard. if you remove lampard's 100 penalties and gerrard's 200 penalties for liverpool, they are nowhere near paul scholes as far as productivity is concerned. biko, stop mentioning lampard where scholes is concerned. there's a difference between maybach benz and VW passat. scholes na world class player. lampard/gerrard are just great players. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:56am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinholic: Scholes is better than Gerrard. Lampard though? Never! But we had this argument on Manyoo thread last year. Or was it 2 years ago sef? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:58am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar: What are Scholes numbers in the hall of fame? Compare to Lampard. Oya 'risashh'! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 10:00am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Nihilist:Yup ,he is better than Gerrard...I know that |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 10:01am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar:Kindly do the same for Hazard ,Silva and Sanchez |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 10:06am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Nihilist: scholes - 138 assists 120 open play + 18 set play lampard - 173 assists 115 open play + 58 set play lampard had 173 assists in 47,934 league minutes.......scholes had 138 assists in 36,086 league minutes for man utd. whether open play or set play, scholes copped 1 assist in every 261 league minutes in his career. lampard copped 1 assist in every 277 league minutes in his entire career. don't compare scholes to lampard, abeg. lampard would wish to be scholes in the after life. Mourinholic: silva beats hazard everyday of the week in productivity. what puts hazard on the headlines is his awoof penalties and huge number of minutes he gets to play. but we are statisticians.....any fool can score penalties and min/games is a better standard of looking at player comparisons. on what planet can hazard ball than sanchez and silva? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 10:32am On Sep 25, 2015 |
Another Hazard hating again. What's this popularity contest sef? What makes Hazard more popular than Silva and Sanchez for him to have won the award ahead of them? Maybe his teammates influence the voting more than Silva and Sanchez teammates? I just don't understand. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 10:36am On Sep 25, 2015 |
timbros: for a start.....hazard's team won the league. secondly....hazard scored more penalties that resulted into goals that won chelsea several games. he had his name on the headlines more than the others cos he scored more awoof penalties than the others. if you actually look at the game input of the top players, hazard had the least productivity. cesc and costa played more important role in chelsea's league victory than hazard. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:40am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar:What made scholes a world class and lampard great player? #waiting. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by codedguy1(m): 10:44am On Sep 25, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Who ever expected that 2 players Ronaldo and Messi will consistently give phenomenal performances for years which has made all believe they are world class. So if in the future like 12 players come around to make the exploits of Ronaldo & Messi look like pub players they (Ronnie & Messi) automatically cease to become world class because it would mean there was a dearth of talent during their time? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:48am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar:Your sentiment is alarming. Scholes was CM while lampard was AMF, why use only assist? What of goals scored, individual award. Lampard was 2nd best player in the world behind ronaldinho. Lampard was world class player, scholes was man united/epl great. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mlist: 11:31am On Sep 25, 2015 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 11:54am On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar: First of all, penalty is not awoof goal. There are tons of stars that missed penalties that cost their team trophies. Baggio '94, Terry '08 are just examples. Talking about making headlines, I don't think Hazard made headlines as much as Kane did last season. Kane should have won the award if the popularity was about making headlines. On who played more important role in Chelsea's league victory, that is another debate all together but the way I see it, if Chelsea were to depend on just Cesc and Costa, we wouldn't have won the league. As at January 1st, Chelsea was just ahead of Man City because of alphabetical advantage. And from that period (beginning of 2nd half of the season) Cesc's form dropped drastically. Costa went on series of bans and injury. It was only Hazard that was carrying the team, creating chances, assisting, scoring crucial goals (e.g vs Man Utd) etc.. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 12:02pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
raumdeuter:can you rank according to "levels" 1-10 Puyol Thuram Kuffour Pique Koeman Stam Terry Hierro Ramos Vidic Canavaro Zanetti Ferdinand Boateng Hummels |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:22pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
SailorXY:Why bother? You already know the answer is: Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng Boateng 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sinizia: 12:30pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinholic: My belle o. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:01pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinholic: Someone archive this post, it's got to be the finest sarcasm I've read in eons. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:23pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
coogar: Do elucidate this your ''popularity contest'' theory. When JT won the PFA award in 2004/05 he wasn't scoring awoof pens that could have easily had him making the headlines yet he won it. What then coulda won him the award? I'm guessing you'd pick ''overall performance'' - the sole criterion that also won it for Hazard. So what are you not telling this house? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:18pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
SailorXY: Puyol 9 Thuram Kuffour 6 Pique 7 Koeman 7 Stam 8 Terry 5 Hierro 6 Ramos 7 Vidic 8 Canavaro 11 Zanetti Not a central defender Ferdinand 4.5 Boateng 7 Hummels 6 Nesta 12 Maldini 13 Sammer 13 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:20pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
codedguy1: I am not sure you understand Ronaldo and Messi already crossed the bar and they are already world class If in the future 12 players come and make Messi look like pub players then logic dictates that they would also be World class players. Michael Owen won ballon D or but to me he was never world class Kaka Rivaldo Figo Owen Shevchenko all won Ballon D or but no one would tell you they are below Zidane, Messi, Ronaldo Lima and Ronaldinho in talent |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 2:22pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinho: "I think in this country, only one manager is not under pressure. Steve-under pressure, I am under pressure, Brendan, Pellegrini' 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Mourinholic(m): 2:24pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinho: "There is only one who manager
not on this list. Good for him. Can speak
about referees, can push in technical area, he can not achieve, keep his job,
still be the king." 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 2:26pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Wenger don suffer.......I will sell my dad property just to be in mourinho press conference!!! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kolade354(m): 2:29pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Mourinholic:Arsene Wenger Will Resign Just because of Mou if care is not taken...... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by wonlasewonimi: 2:35pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
AirborneLacer: Maybe Terry won because he was nyanshing the Wags. Coogar would say anything to win an argument. If hazard was playing for Man United, he would have facts to back up hazard being better than neymar et Al. If he can defend Anderson and falcao, bro you have no case. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 2:36pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
I said on a scale of 1-10 recalculated thus raumdeuter:just 2 simple questions from your ratings... I know you like to talk about trophies & whatnots How is Ramos better than Ferdinand? & how is Vidic better than Pique 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:48pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
SailorXY: I see you modified my ratings? Why would you do that? you can as well rate on yours Sergio Ramos performance in the CL final 2014, Rio has never done that at any final in his career, World cup winner, euro cup winner. In the next 2 yrs If he keeps performance up he would be a 8-9. Just like Boateng Just like in 2 yrs I see Pique reaching Vidics level You didnt see Sammer but you saw Koeman? How did that happen If na 1-10 strictly Puyol 8 Thuram Kuffour 6 Pique 7 Koeman Stam 8 Terry 4 Hierro 5 Ramos 7 Vidic 8 Canavaro 9 Zanetti Ferdinand 3 Boateng 7 Hummels 6 Maldini 10 Nesta 9 Sammer 10 Thuram was also a full back for majority of his career |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhellake: 2:51pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Endless Arguments Spits 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 2:59pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
raumdeuter:I recalculated to squeeze it into 1-10. I didn't see Koeman live, I saw enough old Barca clips to know his strengths & weaknesses. You are now seeing futures, make we no disturb this thread Ramos 'performance' would be scoring a goal in UCL final, no? can we also say Sol Campbell is a 4? Yes or No question |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:00pm On Sep 25, 2015 |
Ferdinand is five levels below Puyol. Comdey on Mt-45. |
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