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Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
We are not talking about God we are talking about you.

So,answer the question.
My ex girl friend left for another guy. Did I bother,no! I simply went for another.

Although it is 99% impossible for kids to decamp to another father. Even if it did happen to me,I will let them exercise their free will. THIS IS MY ANSWER!
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by menix(m): 11:07am On Oct 01, 2015
ifeness:
Lets get the fact right. Sodom and Gomarrah was destroyed with the use of chemical weapons. Nothing spiritual about it. The Annunakis did that. They weren't gods.Humans called them gods.
Baba abeg where can I read up that..
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:08am On Oct 01, 2015
Weah96:
Only suicidal people, or the mentally deranged, would dare to disobey an omniscient acquaintance. That's my point. Your analogy didn't make sense, because the children were assumed to be SANE and not mentally ill. SANE children won't disobey an omniscient parent in order to combine forces with a much weaker enemy. Which part of OMNISCIENT are you missing?

Find out the percentage of humans who set THEMSELVES on fire annually, and you'll have the approximate number of atheists who voluntary choose to disobey your omniscient deity.

When omniscient people talk, EVERYONE listens. When a talking primate says that an omniscient person spoke with him, then I challenge the primate to prove it.
In any where in my question do i infer omniscence? Kindly quote it. If none, then answer the question literarily
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:08am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
So you support Johndonny view of killing the enemy?
He answered you. If we want to act according to your bible, I will let freewill happen.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:09am On Oct 01, 2015
ifeness:
My ex girl friend left for another guy. Did I bother,no! I simply went for another.

Although it is 99% impossible for kids to decamp to another father. Even if it did happen to me,I will let them exercise their free will. THIS IS MY ANSWER!
Good. And i ask even if that free will will get them killed by the enemy they made father?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:10am On Oct 01, 2015
ifeness:
He answered you. If we want to act according to your bible, I will let freewill happen.
Its a Yes or No question brother. So answer
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:12am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Good. And i ask even if that free will will get them killed by the enemy they made father?
Life is all about having an experience. It is no big deal how they live or die. Experience I believe is the best teacher. Freewill can kill or save you. Human right is all that matters.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Its a Yes or No question brother. So answer
I'm tired of saying I will not use FORCE.

This is what Kahlil Gibran says about Parents and children.

Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Am sure i have answered you, my ruse is with my enemy not my children.

And what ever makes your children disown you must be a huge fault on your part.

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit after all i am the all powerful one here and created the enemy and not burn my children.

Again and we are even discussing reality in relation to myth, that is nonsensical..

meanwhile answer me..

what would you do, burn your children?
No trace of supernatural in my question but you are taking it into the supernatural( something you don't believe in).

My question is clear with the criteria. In this case you are a good father to them and they choose to disown you and make your enemy their father.

Literary you will kill the enemy as a person?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:18am On Oct 01, 2015
ifeness:
Life is all about having an experience. It is no big deal how they live or die. Experience I believe is the best teacher. Freewill can kill or save you. Human right is all that matters.
Its a Yes or No question. So answer
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by menesheh(m): 11:20am On Oct 01, 2015
The whole stories of god, hell and punishment in the bible and other similar ideological books are contradictory, irrational, illogical, silly, absurd, vague, zero explanatory power, threats orientated, sado-masochistic and a petty one.


It possess zero-appeal to any honest, right thinking, good judgmental, abstract reasoning person.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 11:24am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Its a Yes or No question. So answer
Will you kill your kids or burn them with fire for disobeying you?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 01, 2015
There can never be a good moral reason to throw someone into hell no matter the crime committed. The worst part is throwing someone in a lake of fire because they did not love you back. That person,god or whoever the judge is needs a reality check.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 11:26am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
No trace of supernatural in my question but you are taking it into the supernatural( something you don't believe in).

My question is clear with the criteria. In this case you are a good father to them and they choose to disown you and make your enemy their father.

Literary you will kill the enemy as a person?
This will be the third time i am answering the same question..

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit and not burn my children.

I will not even burn the enemy because that is cruel and barbaric..

Now answer my question because if you dodge it again then we are done..

What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Weah96: 11:28am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
In any where in my question do i infer omniscence? Kindly quote it. If none, then answer the question literarily
Yes. What's the point of being God if someone can subdue you in a combat situation? I figured that your comment was a reference to either the Muslim one or the Christian one.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:28am On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
This will be the third time i am answering the same question..

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit and not burn my children.

I will not even burn the enemy because that is cruel and barbaric..

Now answer my question because if you dodge it again then we are done..

What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?
In short you will kill your enemy?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Weah96: 11:31am On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?
Hahaha. Only mad children would dare to disown an omniscient father, which means that the God will be burning mental invalids. Just like Hitler used to do.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:32am On Oct 01, 2015
Weah96:
Yes. What's the point of being God if someone can subdue you in a combat situation? I figured that your comment was a reference to either the Muslim one or the Christian one.
Not at all am only making an analogy,literal analogy.

The answer to my question is not a yes or no,its a question of what, so answer if you want to
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 11:34am On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Will you kill your kids or burn them with fire for disobeying you?
Their is no question of fire in my comment.And my comment is literal.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Weah96: 11:39am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Any man that ends in hell chose hell for himself
A r)etarded child who wanders unattended and gets struck by a vehicle also chose his/her own violent demise.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 11:41am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Their is no question of fire in my comment.And my comment is literal.
And your answer is?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Tjayjosh(m): 11:43am On Oct 01, 2015
@OP. What will sinners loose if they accept Jesus as lord and saviour?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Weah96: 11:47am On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Not at all am only making an analogy,literal analogy.

The answer to my question is not a yes or no,its a question of what, so answer if you want to
I would do a host of things, none of which would involve roasting a human being. If my enemy teams up with a child of mine, and they both try to do me bodily harm, my reaction would be to mount some form of defense.

But like you said, your analogy was literal with no divine implications. Humans, as you know, use bullets and exploding projectiles because we are not all powerful beings.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Oct 01, 2015
Am Sorry to say that after my little dialogue with the atheist on this thread I find their hypocrisy alarming in that they are guilty of the very charge they bring against YAHWEH.

Johnydon22 charges YAHWEY with cruelty for fixing a day to burn Satan in the lake of fire but the same johnydon22 was quick to say

I will simply kill the enemy and that is that..
without an offer of repentance from him as to YAHWEH who is not only ready again to forgive Satan but has offered him reconciliation on the cross which he refused.

Ifeness blames God for humans who go to hell yet the same Ifeness said he will give his children the free will even when he knows the free will will get them killed in this circumstances

Life is all about having an experience. It is no big
deal how they live or die. Experience I believe is the
best teacher. Freewill can kill or save you. Human
right is all that matters.
Ifeness will allow his children to walk into death but has the audacity to blame YAHWEH for humans who go to hell when it's simply their will.If Ifeness do not claim responsibility for his children decisions why should he put the blame on YAHWEH if he could not blame himself for his own children even when YAHWEH Still provide a way of reconciliation with his children Ifeness will leave them to be destroyed. Who is more wicked YAHWEH or Ifeness?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 12:08pm On Oct 01, 2015
Tjayjosh:
@OP. What will sinners loose if they accept Jesus as lord and saviour?
Nothing.

I've answered your question now answer my own question
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 12:19pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Am Sorry to say that after my little dialogue with the atheist on this thread I find their hypocrisy alarming in that they are guilty of the very charge they bring against YAHWEH.

Johnydon22 charges YAHWEY with cruelty for fixing a day to burn Satan in the lake of fire but the same johnydon22 was quick to say

without an offer of repentance from him as to YAHWEH who is not only ready again to forgive Satan but has offered him reconciliation on the cross which he refused.

Ifeness blames God for humans who go to hell yet the same Ifeness said he will give his children the free will even when he knows the free will will get them killed in this circumstances

Ifeness will allow his children to walk into death but has the audacity to blame YAHWEH for humans who go to hell when it's simply their will.If Ifeness do not claim responsibility for his children decisions why should he put the blame on YAHWEH if he could not blame himself for his own children even when YAHWEH Still provide a way of reconciliation with his children Ifeness will leave them to be destroyed. Who is more wicked YAHWEH or Ifeness?
huh huh
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by theunusualmoon(m): 12:23pm On Oct 01, 2015
The word "ruse" means a clever plan to decieve someone.You used it wrongly.


johnydon22:
Am sure i have answered you, my ruse is with my enemy not my children.

And what ever makes your children disown you must be a huge fault on your part.

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit after all i am the all powerful one here and created the enemy and not burn my children.

Again and we are even discussing reality in relation to myth, that is nonsensical..

meanwhile answer me..

what would you do, burn your children?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Tjayjosh(m): 12:44pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Nothing.

I've answered your question now answer my own question
Above all things, God is holy, and He cannot compromise His holiness for anything. God will not gain anything by seeing His own creation born in hell. Hell was not
created for humanity. Read
(matthew 25:41) Those who
spend eternity in hell, do so
because they rejected God's love
and his provision for salvation.
Nobody is destined for hell, the bible says: God is not slack
concerning his promise, as some
count slackness, but is
longsuffering toward us, not
willing that any should perish but
that all should come to
repentance (2 peter 3:9).
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 12:51pm On Oct 01, 2015
theunusualmoon:
The word "ruse" means a clever plan to decieve someone.You used it wrongly.
Thanks

but the synonyms of ruse are: angle, artifice, blind, booby trap, curveball, deceit, device, dodge, feint, gambit, game, game plan, gimmick, hoax, imposture, jig, maneuver, ploy,
scenario, sham, shenanigans*, shift, stratagem, stunt, subterfuge, switch*,
twist*, wile

i believe you mistook my usage of the word
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 12:53pm On Oct 01, 2015
Tjayjosh:
@OP. What will sinners loose if they accept Jesus as lord and saviour?

Is not accepting Jesus same as being a immoralhuh


2nd what will you loose if you accept God (allah) and his prophet muhammed..?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 1:05pm On Oct 01, 2015
Tjayjosh:
Above all things, God is holy, and He cannot compromise His holiness for anything. God will not gain anything by seeing His own creation born in hell. Hell was not
created for humanity. Read
(matthew 25:41) Those who
spend eternity in hell, do so
because they rejected God's love
and his provision for salvation.
Nobody is destined for hell, the bible says: God is not slack
concerning his promise
, as some
count slackness, but is
longsuffering toward us, not
willing that any should perish but
that all should come to
repentance (2 peter 3:9).
So, hell fire is a promise. Nice

So, has no gain but still does it. It sounds confused, doesn't it? undecided

Answer these questions as well.

God is all loving: Many religions claim their god is all loving. When then will he choose to send sinners, who he loves unconditionally, to hell to burn for eternity? That is high class lynching. I can't imagine burning my loved ones simply because they disobeyed me.

God is all forgiving: If he has the capabily to forgive unconditionally, why then can't he just forgive sinners?

God created sin: He created sin and should be responsible for putting sin there in the first place. Why should we be held responsible for what he created?

The fight with satan is a personal one: Since god has been unable to forgive devil for their misunderstanding, why should we have to be punished for devil's crimes since we were not there when they had the disagreement in the first place? If I was there, I'm sure I would have been able to resolve the issue between them. But I wasn't, why should I suffer for it?

God created satan: He created satan with sin knowing fully well that he would eventually revolt and that he would eventually use him to tempt as(as in the case of Job). Why can't god take responsibility for it instead of punishing us?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Tjayjosh(m): 1:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:

Is not accepting Jesus same as being a immoralhuh


2nd what will you loose if you accept God (allah) and his prophet muhammed..?
Who's allah? Who's prophet muhammed?
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