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Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 1:08pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Am Sorry to say that after my little dialogue with the atheist on this thread I find their hypocrisy alarming in that they are guilty of the very charge they bring against YAHWEH.

Johnydon22 charges YAHWEY with cruelty for fixing a day to burn Satan in the lake of fire but the same johnydon22 was quick to say

without an offer of repentance from him as to YAHWEH who is not only ready again to forgive Satan but has offered him reconciliation on the cross which he refused.

Ifeness blames God for humans who go to hell yet the same Ifeness said he will give his children the free will even when he knows the free will will get them killed in this circumstances

Ifeness will allow his children to walk into death but has the audacity to blame YAHWEH for humans who go to hell when it's simply their will.If Ifeness do not claim responsibility for his children decisions why should he put the blame on YAHWEH if he could not blame himself for his own children even when YAHWEH Still provide a way of reconciliation with his children Ifeness will leave them to be destroyed. Who is more wicked YAHWEH or Ifeness?
What will you do if your kids decide to follow your enemy?

Answer this simple question sir
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by winner01(m):
starlingslimnet:
Am Sorry to say that after my little dialogue with the atheist on this thread I find their hypocrisy alarming in that they are guilty of the very charge they bring against YAHWEH.

Johnydon22 charges YAHWEY with cruelty for fixing a day to burn Satan in the lake of fire but the same johnydon22 was quick to say

without an offer of repentance from him as to YAHWEH who is not only ready again to forgive Satan but has offered him reconciliation on the cross which he refused.

Ifeness blames God for humans who go to hell yet the same Ifeness said he will give his children the free will even when he knows the free will will get them killed in this circumstances

Ifeness will allow his children to walk into death but has the audacity to blame YAHWEH for humans who go to hell when it's simply their will.If Ifeness do not claim responsibility for his children decisions why should he put the blame on YAHWEH if he could not blame himself for his own children even when YAHWEH Still provide a way of reconciliation with his children Ifeness will leave them to be destroyed. Who is more wicked YAHWEH or Ifeness?
I perceived a heavy thump. grin. Who else loves this person??. Great reply. Thread closed.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 1:10pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
What will you do if your kids decide to follow your enemy?

Answer this simple question sir
I will do what YAHWEH did
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 1:12pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
I will do what YAHWEH did
And that is?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 1:13pm On Oct 01, 2015
Tjayjosh:
Who's allah? Who's prophet muhammed?
Nobody asked you who Jesus was here.

Can your dishonesty get any cheaper here? cheesy
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m):
starlingslimnet:
Am Sorry to say that after my little dialogue with the atheist on this thread I find their hypocrisy alarming in that they are guilty of the very charge they bring against YAHWEH.

Johnydon22 charges YAHWEY with cruelty for fixing a day to burn Satan in the lake of fire but the same johnydon22 was quick to say
Plain straw man has been introduced here and i will like people to take a quick look at my post to see just how cheap lying for yahweh can get...

johnydon22:
This will be the third time i am answering the same question..

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit and not burn my children.

I will not even burn the enemy because that is cruel and barbaric..

Now answer my question because if you dodge it again then we are done..

What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by winner01(m): 1:17pm On Oct 01, 2015
Tjayjosh:
Who's allah? Who's prophet muhammed?
They'll lead you Round and round and round......
Like the thread was about allah and mohammed. SMH
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Anas09: 2:16pm On Oct 01, 2015
Godbless you my sister Starlinslimnet.
I like the literal question u asked, as a parent, if ur son for no apparent reason turns against you, joins forces with ur enemy agaisnt you what will u do? Pls keep it literal. Forget God for a moment.
Let's talk as humans.
Now pls let's look at a senerio here. Pls pretend its not a Bible story, just take it literal.
King David, had children, Absalom the third son, was one of them. If u study kings u'll find out how princes and princesses where adequately loved and pampered. But Absalom rises up and joins forces with David's supposed friend, but enemy, Ahitophel. Now David's enemy turns Absalom so seriously against his father to the extend that David was chased out from his throne and Kingdom. To really shame his father and show his indignation against his father, he had sex with one of his father's wives who remain behind wen David went to exile, in a tent in the public, in full glare of day light, while sorrounded by Israelites.
In all of these, what did David do? Absalom knew that what he was doing was treason, David knew that wat his Son was doing means dead, what did David do? He begged his Army general and commander to be lenient with Absalom.
He loved his Son still, and was ready to forgive if Absalom will come back to his senses. But no, he remained obstinate and hung himself, and David still cried and murned him. So also God is not happy wen sinners perish.
See, you can force some body to obey you, but you can't force somebody to love you. You are either going to accept the love offered to you or reject it. The choice is yours to make. But every road leads somewhere. But the Atheistd sit and tell themselves that its just a road, it leads no where. Pathetic.
Funny enough, I don't really see Atheist here, I see Yahweh haters. Just like absalom, reject ur fathers love.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 2:19pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:

Is not accepting Jesus same as being a immoralhuh


2nd what will you loose if you accept God (allah) and his prophet muhammed..?
Or Me -- Satan -- as your lord and savior.

cc: Tjayjosh
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Tjayjosh(m): 2:20pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
So, hell fire is a promise. Nice

So, has no gain but still does it. It sounds confused, doesn't it? undecided

Answer these questions as well.
God created the earth in six days. There was no sin when the earth created. The bible says: everything God made was
“very good” ( Genesis 1:31). Sin
entered when man rebelled against God, not because God created sin. Sin, therefore, is
any violation of God’s holy law. Romans 3:23 teaches that we must know the character of God before we can accurately define sin, because His glory and holiness is the standard by which we
measure it. Without perfection there is no way to know whether something is imperfect. Without the absolute
standard of God’s holiness, every
word or action would be judged
by the faulty, shifting standard of imperfect people. Without God’s moral law, we
have no way of knowing right
from wrong. Sin is moving away
from what is right.
God created men and angels with a free will, and, if a being
has a free will, there is at least the possibility that he will choose wrong. The possibility for sin was a risk God took. He created human
beings in His image, and, since He is free, humans were created
free, too (Genesis 1:27). Free will
involves the ability to choose, and, after God communicated the
moral standard, He gave the man
a true choice ( Genesis 2:16). Adam chose disobedience. God
did not tempt, or lure
Adam into disobedience. James
1:13 says, “When tempted, no one should say, ‘God is tempting me.’ For God cannot be tempted
by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.” God allowed Adam the
dignity of free choice and honored that choice with appropriate consequences
( Romans 5:12). God provided the opportunity to sin, but He did not create sin. Having the opportunity was good; without
it, human beings and angels would be little
more than robots. God's principles never changes. The
Bible is clear that, whatever path
we choose, consequences follow.
We reap what we sow ( Galatians
6:7), take it or leave it.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Tjayjosh(m): 2:41pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Nobody asked you who Jesus was here.

Can your dishonesty get any cheaper here? cheesy
I'll prefer to stick to the alleged
"What will God Gain by throwing sinners in hell" topic than yielding to these
" Accepting allah or muhammed, or satan, distraction.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 2:46pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
And that is?
Your fear
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Plain straw man has been introduced here and i will like people to take a quick look at my post to see just how cheap lying for yahweh can get...


This will be the third time i am answering the same question..

I will only settle my ruse with my enemy in what ever way i deem fit and not burn my children.

I will not even burn the enemy because that is cruel and barbaric..

Now answer my question because if you dodge it again then we are done..

What will you do if your children disown you, burn them with your enemy?
So are you saying you didn't said that?

Lets see who is the lier here
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m):
starlingslimnet:
So are you saying you didn't said that?

Lets see who is the lier here
Now it is time to show everybody the cheap straws..

Now everyone look and see what i said.. you asked.


starlingslimnet:
Even knowing your enemy they made father will kill all of them?


Only an idiotic father would watch someone kill his child and worse burn them together with the person. . .Now my reply was...


johnydon22:


I will simply kill the enemy and that is that.. after all the enemy is still a product of yahweh..

Why should i throw my children in a burning fire?

So tell me what you would do, throw your children into fire?

The barbarism you people exhibit here is just sad to see...


Now everyone can see very clearly here now deceptive cheap defence of abstract concepts can get..

If an enemy is going to harm or kill my children, as a good father i will simply kill the enemy first to make sure my children are safe from harm, who in his right senses will burn his children alongside his enemy. . .

Now people should come see it clearly..let them judge between us who is correct
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:00pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
Now it is time to show everybody the cheap straws..

Now everyone look and see what i said.. you asked.




Only an idiotic father would watch someone kill his child and worse burn them together with the person. . .Now my reply was...




I will simply kill the enemy and that is that.. after all the enemy is still a product of yahweh..

Why should i throw my children in a burning fire?

So tell me what you would do, throw your children into fire?

The barbarism you people exhibit here is just sad to see...


Now everyone can see very clearly here now deceptive cheap defence of abstract concepts can get..

If an enemy is going to harm or kill my children, as a good father i will simply kill the enemy first to make sure my children is safe from harm, who in his right senses will burn his children alongside his enemy. . .

Now people should come see it clearly..[/i][/b]
Bottom line is you will kill the enemy even when he is not responsible for your children disowming you.And that is the same with what i said earlier. Now who is lieing?

Grammars cannot help you in this.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 3:03pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Bottom line is you will kill the enemy even when he is not responsible for your children disowming you.And that is the same with what i said earlier.


Bottom line is if my enemy plans to kill my children i will kill him first of all..

Not because my children disowned me but because he wants to harm my babies....

So whoever plans on killing my babies will first get killed by me to make sure nothing happens to my babies whether am in good terms with my children or not..

Number priority is protecting my children....

Go on bring more
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:05pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Your fear
Lol. I wonder why such a simple question will pose such a problem for you.

So, you finally admit that you will burn your own children for their disobedience. This says a lot about you and your god.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:06pm On Oct 01, 2015
Anas09:
Godbless you my sister Starlinslimnet.
I like the literal question u asked, as a parent, if ur son for no apparent reason turns against you, joins forces with ur enemy agaisnt you what will u do? Pls keep it literal. Forget God for a moment.
Let's talk as humans.
Now pls let's look at a senerio here. Pls pretend its not a Bible story, just take it literal.
King David, had children, Absalom the third son, was one of them. If u study kings u'll find out how princes and princesses where adequately loved and pampered. But Absalom rises up and joins forces with David's supposed friend, but enemy, Ahitophel. Now David's enemy turns Absalom so seriously against his father to the extend that David was chased out from his throne and Kingdom. To really shame his father and show his indignation against his father, he had sex with one of his father's wives who remain behind wen David went to exile, in a tent in the public, in full glare of day light, while sorrounded by Israelites.
In all of these, what did David do? Absalom knew that what he was doing was treason, David knew that wat his Son was doing means dead, what did David do? He begged his Army general and commander to be lenient with Absalom.
He loved his Son still, and was ready to forgive if Absalom will come back to his senses. But no, he remained obstinate and hung himself, and David still cried and murned him. So also God is not happy wen sinners perish.
See, you can force some body to obey you, but you can't force somebody to love you. You are either going to accept the love offered to you or reject it. The choice is yours to make. But every road leads somewhere. But the Atheistd sit and tell themselves that its just a road, it leads no where. Pathetic.
Funny enough, I don't really see Atheist here, I see Yahweh haters. Just like absalom, reject ur fathers love.
So, you will also kill your kids like Starlinslimnet and burn them with fire for their disobedience. That's nice

You both belong in a rehab
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 3:08pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Lol. I wonder why such a simple question will pose such a problem for you.

So, you finally admit that you will burn your own children for their disobedience. This says a lot about you and your god.


Mehnn... we are seeing the stupendous barbarism just like you are. Why would anyone burn his children or even his enemy for anything.huh

You want to protect your children from harm by roasting them in fire, can idiocy get any clearer than this?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:11pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:


Mehnn... we are seeing the stupendous barbarism just like you are. Why would anyone burn his children or even his enemy for anything.huh

You want to protect your children from harm by roasting them in fire, can idiocy get any clearer than this?
This is why I said their discussions give me a headache. undecided
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:11pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:


Bottom line is if my enemy plans to kill my children i will kill him first of all..

Not because my children disowned me but because he wants to harm my babies....

So whoever plans on killing my babies will first get killed by me to make sure nothing happens to my babies whether am in good terms with my children or not..

Go on bring more
Good. So in short you will kill the enemy.

Now if you will kill an enemy without giving him a second chance at reconciliation do you now have any right and righteousness to castigate YAHWEH who gave his enemies chance to repent and reconciliate with him and they refuse when you didn't think of giving your enemies a chance?

Do you now have the mouth to castigate YAHWEH for planning to destroy his enemies who refuse to repent one day when you plan to do the same?

Now who is lieing?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:12pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Lol. I wonder why such a simple question will pose such a problem for you.

So, you finally admit that you will burn your own children for their disobedience. This says a lot about you and your god.
Is that your fear?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:12pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Good. So in short you will kill the enemy.

Now if you will kill an enemy without giving him a second chance at reconciliation do you now have any right and righteousness to castigate YAHWEH who gave his enemies chance to repent and reconciliate with him and they refuse when you didn't think of giving your enemies a chance?

Do you now have the mouth to castigate YAHWEH for planning to destroy his enemies who refuse to repent one day when you plan to do the same?

Now who is lieing?
Coming from someone who will gladly kill and burn her own kids for their disobedience undecided

You have no moral standing to call out anyone
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Coming from someone who will gladly kill and burn her own kids for their disobedience undecided

You have no moral standing to call out anyone
I gave you a question go and answer that.

If you feel like sticking your nose to this it is alright by me. It helps not you but people reading my writings.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 3:19pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Good. So in short you will kill the enemy.
Now if you will kill an enemy without giving him a second chance at reconciliation do you now have any right and righteousness to castigate YAHWEH who gave his enemies chance to repent and reconciliate with him and they refuse when you didn't think of giving your enemies a chance?
Do you now have the mouth to castigate YAHWEH for planning to destroy his enemies who refuse to repent one day when you plan to do the same?
Now who is lieing?
[b]Misrepresenting my assertions will never help your case here it will only go on further to show people the kind of deception you harbour.

Now everyone pay mind to the word in red, Can people ask this guy why he removes that part on my post always in order to lay out his barbaric idea.

Boy straw man fallacy is a huge form of deception please desist from it


So in short is "If my enemy wants to kill my children i will kill my enemy first to ensure the safety of my children.."

Not throw my children and my enemy into a fire, that is abject barbarism.

Lmao you are still making this claim? Actually yahweh is not giving any satan chance to reconcile he is planning on burning both humans and satan in the same place something someone like me would never do or support.

Giving a chance to reconcile i thought he was omniscient and already know satan would not repent and have even prepared a roasting fire place for satan.

Now your lie has even got cheaper and funnier!!!

First the trait of a good father is protecting his children from harm, now yahweh is planning on torturing his enemy forever in fire alongside his children.
Such chronic sadism is too cruel.

Now it is obvious who is lying here, people are reading...
[/b]
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:20pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
I gave you a question go and answer that.

If you feel like sticking your nose to this it is alright by me. It helps not you but people reading my writings.
Everyone reading knows you and anas09 don't mind killing your kids if they disobey you. Simple
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:23pm On Oct 01, 2015
johnydon22:
So in short is "If my enemy wants to kill my children i will kill my enemy first to ensure the safety of my children.."

Not throw my children and my enemy into a fire, that is abject barbarism.

Lmao you are still making this claim? Actually yahweh is not giving any satan chance to reconcile he is planning on burning both humans and satan in the same place something someone like me would never do or support.

Giving a chance to reconcile i thought he was omniscient and already know satan would not repent and have even prepared a roasting fire place for satan.

Now your lie has even got cheaper and funnier!!!

First the trait of a good father is protecting his children from harm, now yahweh is planning on torturing his enemy forever in fire alongside his children.
Such chronic sadism is too cruel.

Now it is obvious who is lying here, people are reading...
You mean you believe the fairy tale Bible written by drunken men?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by Nobody: 3:25pm On Oct 01, 2015
hahn:
Everyone reading knows you and anas09 don't mind killing your kids if they disobey you. Simple
Is that your fear?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by thelish(f): 3:25pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Their is no question of fire in my comment.And my comment is literal.
With all due respect, u r not a good debator. See how ur dancing around d bush with no concrete points. I see why atheist always have upper hand in argument. They are intelligent. They can defend their course. But u just fall our hand big time.
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 3:28pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
You mean you believe the fairy tale Bible written by drunken men?


Lmao. . now he has moved on to believing the fairy tale grin stumped are we?

Hahaha you are even confused jumping from one premise to another when you get stumped...

Such petty tales..

Actually now that the topic has now shifted to believing the story, a resound NO i don't..


we are here discussing the story as concept found in a book so that people reading this now will think about the absurdities and outright implausibilities of such stories.


For me i am too good to harbour such barbarism in my mind..
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by hahn(op): 3:33pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Is that your fear?
Nope.

But it is apparent, ain't in?

If i'm mistaken answer the question directly and be vindicated? Will you burn and kill your kids for their disobedience? Yes or no?
Re: What Will God Gain By Throwing Sinners In Hell Fire? by johnydon22(m): 3:33pm On Oct 01, 2015
starlingslimnet:
Is that your fear?


I wouldn't like to be you now. . . Just see how you are disgracing yourself in public.

You cannot answer his question like a man and he answers yours here plainly without mincing words but you keep playing around to dodge his questions. . pitiful i must say.

Please answer his question like a man and be proud of your words so everyone would see
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