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ifeness:
Lets get the fact right. Sodom and Gomarrah was destroyed with the use of chemical weapons. Nothing spiritual about it. The Annunakis did that. They weren't gods.Humans called them gods.

johnydon22:


I wouldn't like to be you now. . . Just see how you are disgracing yourself in public.

You cannot answer his question like a man and he answers yours here plainly without mincing words but you keep playing around to dodge his questions. . pitiful i must say.

Please answer his question like a man and be proud of your words so everyone would see

thelish:
With all due respect, u r not a good debator. See how ur dancing around d bush with no concrete points. I see why atheist always have upper hand in argument. They are intelligent. They can defend their course. But u just fall our hand big time.

hahn:
This is why I said their discussions give me a headache.

Actually i enjoy it

When you are engaging a theist, your words doesn't make the most damage the damage is made mostly by their assertions

because they don't realize they ridicule, murder their religions and God concept with the assertions they pour out.

I do this for people reading the arguments so they can weigh, compare and contrast and see for themselves.

starlingslimnet:
Good. So in short you will kill the enemy.

Now if you will kill an enemy without giving him a second chance at reconciliation do you now have any right and righteousness to castigate YAHWEH who gave his enemies chance to repent and reconciliate with him and they refuse when you didn't think of giving your enemies a chance?

Do you now have the mouth to castigate YAHWEH for planning to destroy his enemies who refuse to repent one day when you plan to do the same?

Now who is lieing?

thelish:
With all due respect, u r not a good debator. See how ur dancing around d bush with no concrete points. I see why atheist always have upper hand in argument. They are intelligent. They can defend their course. But u just fall our hand big time.

dalaman:
When did Yahweh say that he has given Satan the chance to repeat in any part of the bible, where can it be found inside the bible? Isn't it the bible that says that unbelievers are condemned already because of their unbelief?

dabosuker:
BULLS EYE!

hahn:
Nope.

But it is apparent, ain't in?

If i'm mistaken answer the question directly and be vindicated? Will you burn and kill your kids for their disobedience? Yes or no?

starlingslimnet:
Like YAHWEH did i will. I will reach out for reconciliation just like a father will do. If they refuse who is to be blamed,Me or they?

johnydon22:
Please be more explicit here so these fine readers will understand you.

Do you mean you will torture your children with your enemy forever?

starlingslimnet:
If your children disown you are they still your children? Yes Or No

johnydon22:

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YES[/size]

by all means they are still my children and i will never harbour in my mind for them to suffer or be tortured.

Now please answer yours . . " Do you mean you will torture your children with your enemy forever?"

starlingslimnet:
In as much they disown me as their father and refuse my offer of reconciliation till nothing could be done then am no more their father. And since am no more their father am not responsible for whatever they get themself into.Am I?

starlingslimnet:
1 Peter 3:19

johnydon22:
In the first place you are the one that built a place of torture which you intend to throw them in alongside your enemy..meaning you are responsible for their torture.... You are really a good father cus am starting to pity your kids if you have some already at home

whether my children disown me or not they will never stop being my children and who ever tries to harm them will have to go through me first because i will protect them with the last drop of my blood.

Please stop running around by dodging my question and answer... I gave you a resounding "YES" when you asked me ..

Do you mean you will torture your children with your enemy forever? YES or NO

dalaman:
The verse says Christ went and.preached to spirits that are in prison. It doesn't mention satan and according to christian theology satan isn't in any prison. Most christians believe that satan is the ruler of the world. Satan according to christians is all over the world with his demons causing havoc not in any prison.

johnydon22:
Do you really believe the Sumerian Anunnaki strory? You know all the early middle eastern Gods developed from that Sumerian myth. El, yahweh, marduk, ea and co developed from the Sumerian Anunnaki story.

Anyway i do not believe the Anunnaki story though, just because we cannot figure how something was done doesn't mean Aliens did it.

Water has recently being announced to flow on Mars, most people are holding their breathe because they feel discovering microbile life is not far.

And such discoveries will murder most religions and alien theories because it will go a long way in showing man how organism emerge..

Keeping our fingers crossed...

starlingslimnet:
Like YAHWEH did i will. I will reach out for reconciliation just like a father will do. If they refuse who is to be blamed,Me or they?

hahn:
Yes or no?

starlingslimnet:
Answered given,now answer the question,am i to blame

starlingslimnet:
You saying Satan is not in prison makes me give up on explaining the concept of the scripture to you. This is One of the reasons i do not quote scriptures to people because of their understanding of the word.

starlingslimnet:
Let me for once ask you for proof, Can you kindly present the Scripture that says God create Hell for mankind?

Not being realistic about your answers regarding disowning but i spare you that; it says much to the reader.

Not surprised you called this prevarication but to save the so called "prevarication" kindly provide the scripture that says God made hell for humans.

dabosuker:
i believe ETs had something to do with the history of humans not necessary every life form on earth, just humans since we must have been the most advanced life form they saw when they touched down. they probably tweaked our DNA , played with our genes ; which probably led to religious & cultural creation stories & myths etc. buts its just an hypothesis for me, but it does more or makes more sense to me than religious stories.

And the Anunnaki don't want to come back now and meet us? Or maybe that generation of Anunnakis are dead but their children can come na and we can even establish interstella diplomatic ties with them..... Till then the story is still just hypothetical like other religious story.

Anyway the vikings also claim their Gods Odin and thor are extra terrestrials that visited them from the realm Asgard using and intergallactic bridge known as Bifrost...

about that water flowing in mars... ..I would have been disappointed or lost it , if they did not find any currently flowing even though there exist river channels & ripple structures in mars , I just knew liquid water just had to be there in the present , just as i believe life is thriving in Mars currently , it is not yet found though, but maybe thats because we are looking for familiar life , rather than life adapted to planet Mars.

Off course Religion would crumble, people would loose it , go GAGA , that's why i keep telling people to start to prepare their minds , that we are not so special , planet Earth is not so special!. people like me would still be sane ,,when the announcements start coming in. In 2008 the Vatican even tried to prepare the minds of people for the existence of ETs.

I might be crazy , but am keeping my mind open, In the Universe.... THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS.......

dabosuker:
i believe ETs had something to do with the history of humans not necessary every life form on earth, just humans since we must have been the most advanced life form they saw when they touched down. they probably tweaked our DNA , played with our genes ; which probably led to religious & cultural creation stories & myths etc. buts its just an hypothesis for me, but it does more or makes more sense to me than religious stories.
about that water flowing in mars... ..I would have been disappointed or lost it , if they did not find any currently flowing even though there exist river channels & ripple structures in mars , I just knew liquid water just had to be there in the present , just as i believe life is thriving in Mars currently , it is not yet found though, but maybe thats because we are looking for familiar life , rather than life adapted to planet Mars.
Off course Religion would crumble, people would loose it , go GAGA , that's why i keep telling people to start to prepare their minds , that we are not so special , planet Earth is not so special!. people like me would still be sane ,,when the announcements start coming in. In 2008 the Vatican even tried to prepare the minds of people for the existence of ETs.

I might be crazy , but am keeping my mind open, In the Universe.... THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS.......

ifeness:
I agree with you. There are not only possibilities but signs that our ancestors had contact with humanoids who looks different from us. They probably were light years advanced than we are. They may have accelerated our technological advancement. The anceint humans may have mistakely worshiped them as gods until this day.

If we take a look at the African traditions,example the Yoruba's Orishas,Horus,Osiris The Dogan tribes,The Native Americans,The Greek Titans...they were all said to have flew like birds in the sky. The bible is most likely an alien account book(obviously edited from Sumerian books) The pyramids are way too advance for our present day humans to figure how they were built

Talk about the Sons of god(obviously we are one of the many planet in our Solar system). How did Elijah flay in flying Chariot? Jesus walked on water?that defies the law of Gravity and only technology can be used to defy the laws of gravity.

Talk about DNA and genetic alterations and manipulations. How did humans start making light bulbs,cars,iphones.atomic weapons. Its shocking how much we have advanced in the past 100 years.

There are different races on the planet,how come? Sometimes I feel we are different races from different Star systems mingling together. Why do the Europeans care so much about Mars? Perhaps it used to be their home planet.

The Annunakis may not return but they have inter-breed with humans and he have their genetic codes. Or are we being monitored to see how much we could advance,learn to live with each other as different races?

I may be wrong but I think religion was formed by those who know these guys and are trying to hide these knowledge from us.

johnydon22:


@bolded i am glad you recognize this to be a hypothetical postulations.

My stance remains we shouldn't regard any of these hypothesis as truth or hold them to be facts until man learns what actually happened through consistent study and scrutiny of available facts.

we must keep an open mind to what we can learn from the universe because there is a lot to learn and it remains we are part of the universe experiencing the universe

johnydon22:
Oh now we are to argue over the doctrine of hell? Stumped the second time and you jump into another premise all together. .

I am so being very very realistic, i am not as barbaric as you neither will i ever bear such evil in my mind. . let me say it once again for all to see..

[size=20]If my children disown me or go against my orders they are still my children and i will always protect them against any harm.. [/size]


Actually there are many instances of hell in the bible.

Matthew 5:22 talks about ending in hell for calling others fool, luke 12:5 talks about feae yahweh who can kill you and throw you into fire..

Please i am not here to debate your hell fire doctrine with you, maintain your stance and don't shift the goal post.

And for the question i asked you haven't still answered me please go ahead and give me an answer don't dodge it for the 5th time.. You must answer it..

Do you mean you will torture your children with your enemy forever? YES or NO

please people can you help me beg this guy to answer the question and stop running around..

Tjayjosh:
Why is the idea of Hell so repulsive to you?

starlingslimnet:
Bottom line is you will kill the enemy even when he is not responsible for your children disowming you.And that is the same with what i said earlier. Now who is lieing?

Grammars cannot help you in this.

johnydon22:
Because such evil barbarism, sadism and chronic lust for torture is repulsive in itself and is an unjust idea to propagate to the public and therefore needs to be refuted when such nonsensical ideas are laid out...