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Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 4:14pm On May 11, 2015 |
kaytytty:Paul rebuked churches for their improper conducts, remember? |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 4:21pm On May 11, 2015 |
wholexy009:how about the testimony that people died in accident and the church shouted hallelujah for what happened? were these people that died evil powers? |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 4:26pm On May 11, 2015 |
fados4sure:rubbish! Olukoya is rubbish man. i was a member before. The bible is far from his philosophy 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 4:50pm On May 11, 2015 |
ndcide:deliverance were not suppose to be conducted to christians in the first place as the bible assures that, the moment you believe in Jesus you are already filled with the holy spirit like that. that means, it takes someone who is filled with holy spirit to believe that Jesus is Lord. 1 John 4:2 says Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: Everybody who go to MfM and all churches have all confessed (agree ) that Jesus is lord, they all know it, they believe it For the fact that they go to church alone shows that they believe . Therefore, it is not possible for these people to be tormented with evil spirit or family problem. What they all need is education so that they will be imancipated from primitivity, diabolism and ignorance. Do you see how this man called olukoya contradicts bible?? He made you people believe you have spiritual problem where as your problem is not spiritual, your problem is lark of quality education |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 12:39am On May 12, 2015 |
Iceflox:brother/sister what abt 2corithian 10:4 and eph 6:12 |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 8:31am On May 12, 2015 |
Charlesdock: 2 Corinthians 10:4 did not refer to spiritual things talkless of deliverance in Christianity. if you read down to 2 Corinthians 10:5 it says, Casting down IMAGINATIONS(imginations of our hearts, not spirits ) , and every high thing(thoughts of our hearts, not spirits ) that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ( in us ); This is the weapon of our warfare, to purify our hearts and live righteously, loving people, and not to fight spirits which do not exist in the first place. If you read the whole chapter, you will understand what Paul was trying to say. Ephesians 6:12, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers... All these are figurative statements, in literature in English(because the bible uses literal terms a lot that require interpretations), figurative statements are representations of the actual meaning. You will see the interpretation of Ephesians 6:12 when you read Ephesians 6:14 which says, Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with TRUTH , and having on the breastplate of RIGHTEOUSNESS ; so we wrestle against principalities and powers by knowing the truth and doing righteousness. That means, the true meaning of principalities and powers or , rulers of high places there.do not refer to spiritual things ,rather it refers to falsehood and unrighteousness in the world (mostly the teaching among the jews that is against the teaching that Jesus is Christ). I told you Christianity is the holy spirit of God which was confirmed at the day of pentecost with signs and wonders. nobody in Christianity have evil spirit. there is nothing like family foundation or spiritual attack. If there was anything like that the power of Christ in you has already neutralized it the day u were born into Christianity , perhaps not in MFM. you did not know. Don't mind olukoya, he likes Yoruba spiritual tradition and african fictions,and he brought it into Christianity unknowingly, he is ignorant. millions of nigerians are now deceived. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 6:49pm On May 12, 2015 |
Iceflox:. Then why pray since when u accept christ everything is settled. So the psamist prayers are invalid right u said earlier that christian cannot be posses, cannot be haunted by spiritual attacks then u are contradicting eph 6:12. We are wrestling against flesh and blood but against POWERS, against PRINCIPALITIES, against RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS WORLD, and SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES. U said what they shout die! Die! When praying have u ever heard mr **** die! No u only hear powers or evil stuffs. Someone said mfm's philosophy is contradictory. I just laugh because it not, remember John said test all spirits. Pray for the spirit of discernment. Altar call is essential. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 5:43pm On May 17, 2015 |
Charlesdock:Did you read my statement at all? read first before you comment. i say Ephesians 6:12 is figurative language and i gave the meaning of principalities and powers,rulers of darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness etc. that all these things do not talk about spiritual things But they represent unrighteousness and falsehood in the world, just like God told Peter arise, kill unclean fowl things and eat in a dream, that statement was figurative. It represent, preach to gentiles that they should join Christianity and be saved. Only educated people will understand this thing. I notice that MFM is a church for illiterate people that's why they can't understand. that's why they are so vulnerable to modern day deception. By the way, what do you mean by God says test all spirit? Do you test spirit by casting out demons from christians who are the holy spirit themselves just like Mfm is doing? just because most people in mfm didn't go to school and they are suffering do not mean that they are possess with family problem o. one day, you people will ignorantly attempt to cast out demons from God himself. very soon, it will happen |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 8:58pm On May 20, 2015 |
Iceflox:thanks for reply after so long. I will have to stop arguing with you because u did not fully answer all my stated post. U said we shld not pray about all that let me ask you a question and i want a direct answer what is the essence of Ithess. 5:17. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 6:32am On May 21, 2015 |
I have a question how must a woman dress in church and outside |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 11:42am On May 23, 2015 |
Charlesdock:ehh! you still dey talk? You know, your mate in America are developing technology by logical reasoning, they are flying to the moon for research, most of them are not even in the Christian religion. Una dey Africa dey shout die by fire in this modern world where knowlege and understanding is the key,when Christ has empowered you to go to school,learn and take dominion ? By the way, what is itess 5:17 |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 8:19pm On May 23, 2015 |
I said first Thess. 5:17. I think you're not familiar with all mfm's prayer. And i asked that should a woman but on trouser, attachment etc |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 8:20pm On May 23, 2015 |
I said first Thess. 5:17. I think you're not familiar with all mfm's prayer. And i asked that should a woman but on trouser, attachment etc. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by nannymcphee(f): 10:05am On May 24, 2015 |
Pls I will like to know Dr olukoya's stance on "giving(charity works & giving to the church)" Can anyone give me his messages/articles on this subject CC:ishilove semid4lyfe omoalata |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by 4C2215131: 4:12pm On May 24, 2015 |
PhysicsQED: Really surprising to say the least. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Bosch10(m): 11:45am On Jul 10, 2015 |
CrazyMan:That is the truth |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 7:42pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
MOUNTAIN OF FIRE NA FAKE CHURCH, GOD GO PURNISH ALL OF UNA |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 2:34pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
Iceflox:you should have spit this out since, that is your opinion |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 9:14am On Aug 20, 2015 |
Charlesdock:Who dey pursue una spiritually? make una na nor wake up from una schizophrenia face reality first, make una go work hard. una go remain for inside poverty, no amount of prayer go save una. abi una nor know say faith without works is dead? |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 10:45am On Aug 20, 2015 |
Dear Dr D. K. Olukoya
i pray that God should help you understand
your Bible first, and not being sentimental.
please channel your deliverance to Muslims or
non Christians, perhaps non christians may be
possibly possess with evil spirit. But nobody in
Christianity is possess with evil spirit or family
spirit. rather, the Bible says we have the spirit
of God the moment we believe that Jesus is the
Christ. At that point we are saved.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit (every person) that
confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the
flesh is not of God (this refers to non
christians who were antichrists or anti
Christianity, who persecuted christians in those
days ) is not of God.
this also implies that everybody who
confesseth or believes that Jesus is come in the
flesh, which everybody in Christianity believes
including all members of MFM, is of God
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we (believers who also
includes all MFM members ) are the children
of God:
And everybody in Christianity have believed
including all MFM members .
in other words, no MFM member is a Muslim
or a non Christianity.
i have never seen anywhere in the Bible that
deliverance where conducted on christians,
rather, the Bible says christians have the holy
spirit in them inspite their sin (note: no man is
perfect )
Remember, Jesus founded the christian religion
for our salvation, so we are complete in him,
no evil spirit.
So, all these your deliverance, I don't know
where you got it from.
certainly, nobody you ever delivered since you
started this MFM ministry were possess or
inflicted spiritually.
Their problem is just economic crises of the
nation and nothing more |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 1:01am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Iceflox:calm down joor. Who talk say pple no dey hardwork no be u dey call one church fake. I can't keep arguing with you. One thing i have learn ever since i became a theist is............ Never ever call a pastor fake. Why? Because if you do nt hav a discernin spirit and u blashphemy pere. OYO(ON YOUR OWN). Gud bye Iceflox |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 1:07am On Sep 21, 2015 |
Iceflox: Iceflox:and it not funny. I think you shld attend one of Mfm programmes. Sorry i forgot you said u were once a member. ICEFLOX stop blashphemy a church. A real church will preach God the father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Life through Jesus christ, the gift and the fruit of the Holy Spirit, Heaven and Hell. Preach Jesus came in flesh to die for our sin. If Mfm as those attribute then it is you that need to stop labelling a church fake. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 9:45am On Oct 11, 2015 |
Charlesdock:by preaching Christ, olukoya is a man of God no doubt. this is not what is making him fake. what is actually making him fake lies in the fact that he is too ritualistic and primitive in nature. saying die by fire is not different from rituals. how can you be in Lagos and shout that somebody in one village at anambra should die by fire for you you to prosper in Lagos? i that not a mental problem on your side and ritual? where is it written in the Bible that christians should do like that? to me, this is a clear case of African traditional ritual and fiction in religion. it is demonical 1 Like |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 1:59pm On Oct 11, 2015 |
Iceflox:And is that all. Bro Iceflox i don't like arguing but let stop here. To determine a christian church 1. It must preach salvation through Jesus 2. Preach new life, kingdom of God. 3. Holy Spirit 4. Have a sound bible study scheme. If Mfm has all those then it not a fake. Maybe you shld try to attend their programme again and see. Good day 1 Like |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 7:45pm On Oct 15, 2015 |
Charlesdock:mfm don't have sound bible study, if not, let me ask you this simple question. what is God's kingdom on earth? or what did john the Baptist meant by this statement in Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.? to be honest with you, Olukoya don't know what it meant. i listen to his preaching a lot. or can you attempt the answer? i don't think so. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 10:45pm On Oct 15, 2015 |
Iceflox:Am a an Mfm member and we hav all those. Forget it don't quote me again because am i will be turning to a ghost reader in this thread. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Iceflox(f): 6:45am On Oct 16, 2015 |
Charlesdock:i never wanted to quote you. next time when you see people saying their opinion about mfm do not counter them or you do it with a good proof that your position that olukoya is teaching right . everybody is entitled to their own opinion |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by BOWOTO(m): 7:02am On Oct 16, 2015 |
Its like most of you here don't know that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers, rulers of darkness in high places and so on!War? I'm tired of War, it's only in Nigeria we fight this so called wars! yet we are so far behind. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 3:16am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Iceflox:I never counter you. Good one bro. Evryone is entitle to their opinion. So let bury the hatchet. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by bfreal: 1:10am On Jan 30, 2016 |
I attended a MFM church. I went through the deliverance for a week I even attended membership classes My thoughts? Buy one of their GO's books. They are all full of grammatical and typographical errors. That should tell you something right there. They prey on superstitions and fear. There are rituals and an outward appearance of godliness but inside their prayers are hollow. Jesus never, ever, taught anyone to pray like that. The prayers are self-centered Do they ever pray that the gospel be spread and that people get saved and filled with the holy ghost? Last time I went to one of their services I did not wear a hair covering. Later I noticed someone had cut a chunk of hair from my head. I'm not saying that everybody in the church is like that. I'm telling you what I experienced first hand and what the Holy Spirit has laid on my heart is that praying that something or someone die in Jesus's name is not scriptural. Go get the prayer points and then go to your bible. Search the scripture and find that prayer in the bible. Oh yeah, you might find something similar. That's how the devil works, he counterfeits the real thing. As far as the east is from the west, is as far as you should STAY AWAY FROM MFM. |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by Charlesdock(m): 1:14pm On Jan 31, 2016 |
bfreal:So they are Ritualist Okay fine you passed through membership class please kindly give me the tenets of faith Mfm believed in. Oyah continu your tori 1 Like |
Re: Your Thoughts On Mountain Of Fire And Miracles Church by johnstin(m): 1:58pm On Jan 31, 2016 |
lari03: I'm not a member of MFM but I can say confidently that the nature and mode of praying adopted by the church is very effective. Infact, I have benefitted immensely from it. Like my brother rightly said, a lot of our problems in Africa here steam from idolatry and the relationship our fore-fathers had with demons. Many generational curses have been passed on and these can only be addressed by violent prayer and serious deliverance. May GOD continue to strengthen and bless Pastor Olukoya. GOD has used him to deliver many from satanic bondage. Spiritual warfare is real but the devil wants people to think it doesn't exist. 6 Likes |
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