₦airaland Forum

Keep giving yourself excuses! you said decades of rot? Buhari is just cut up in the mess he created when he interrupted democracy. India and Parkistan started about thesame time but the difference why India is more developed is consistent democracy even if its a little contribution from successive govts. Buhari ruined us from 1983 and he is paying for being a coupist. I am not wishing Buhari failure cos he has already failed even nigerians know thats why they did not vote for him for 3 attempts. How can an unrepentant coupist/dictator/terrorist be voted in a president...only in a zoo of course!

obailala:
I see you sticking your tongue ( )out and wishing the president of your country does not perform so you can say "I told you" after 4 years. As unfortunate as that stance is, God pass una! and by God's grace, he is going to perform. He may appear annoyingly slow, but you need to understand that he is taking his time to undo decades of rot which has bedevilled the system. Remember the quote from the October first speech:

“Impatience is not a virtue. Order is more vital than speed. Careful and deliberate decisions after consultations get far better results..."

Oh yes, we are all impatient, but I am sure as a Nigerian, you should have an idea of the extent of rot in the system?... that will certainly take time to fix. The nosedive in world oil prices have also greatly not helped matters. Have you taken your time to review the last national budget of 2015?... If only you can go take a look at it, you will understand why there cannot be a single progress this year, it is not just a 'new government' thing, absolutely nothing was budgeted for capital projects in the 2015 budget and it was not PMB's government that compiled this 2015 budget. Ideally, we should patiently wait for the 2016 budget to see exactly what the CHANGE they promised us is all about. If Nigeria gets better, irrespective of who sits in Abuja, it will be to the benefit of us all; and if peradventure things don't turn out better (God forbid), just like I said earlier, we will look for a way to kick him out.

DMerciful:
Keep giving yourself excuses! you said decades of rot? Buhari is just cut up in the mess he created when he interrupted democracy. India and Parkistan started about thesame time but the difference why India is more developed is consistent democracy even if its a little contribution from successive govts. Buhari ruined us from 1983 and he is paying for being a coupist. I am not wishing Buhari failure cos he has already failed even nigerians know thats why they did not vote for him for 3 attempts. How can an unrepentant coupist/dictator/terrorist be voted in a president...only in a zoo of course!

Oh I see, you are one of the Nnamdi Kanu faithfuls who have been brainwashed to see every other Nigerian but yourselves as animals in a zoo because GEJ lost an election months ago?... I should have known who you were earlier. Obviously even Jesus Christ himself would have a hard time convincing you guys to reason objectively especially as it concerns your pre-determined hatred for Buhari. I am afraid, I cannot continue with this discussion. Good day!

Good day. You dont need nnamdi Kanu to let you know Nigeria is a zoo. bye

obailala:
Oh I see, you are one of the Nnamdi Kanu faithfuls who have been brainwashed to see every other Nigerian but yourselves as animals in a zoo because GEJ lost an election months ago?... I should have known who you were earlier. Obviously even Jesus Christ himself would have a hard time convincing you guys to reason objectively especially as it concerns your pre-determined hatred for Buhari. I am afraid, I cannot continue with this discussion. Good day!

obailala:
Hahaha... Let us not sit back and feign amnesia on the kind of monster PDP represented, let us not sit back and act as if PDP are saints. As bad and powerful as PDP were, somehow some way, we were able to kick them aside. Can you kindly mention one thing APC is doing today that PDP did not do even ten times over?... If you were told just 4 years ago that PDP could lose power at the centre, I'm sure you and I would have dismissed such reasoning as wishful thinking and laughed at such a prophesy. But we know the result today, with that feat alone, it should be clear to any discerning mind that as a nation, we can achieve anything we want to achieve if it becomes extremely necessary and if we are serious. You should also know that Nigerians are also now much more aware politically and with social media, information spreads instantly like wild fire. Also with the desperation of PDP to take back power, I am sure PDP would field very credible candidates in 2019 and beyond so it would never be a smooth sail for APC.

I put it to you, if APC/Buhari messes up, they can and will be kicked out. I have absolutely no worries about that.

If you say so but one thing I came to realise is that, as bad as pdp was, when push came to shove, they knew when to let go. In all the embezzling as overly proclaimed, they were still politically rational. As corrupt as they are said to be, they still allow you to have freewill and choose. APC sadly, I can't say they that rational nor even magnanimous to allow a free and fair environment.

You are right, the Nigerian vote eventually counted, yet you still need to give credit to the government of that day for making it so. In the last 55 yrs, as we all know, every government kills the opposition and doesn't low true democracy to prevail but the if there is anything I took from the last administration is that leveraging ground given to enjoy democracy as practised in saner countries but more is how long it took with a sane but corrupt party however how much more longer it will take with a party that is both greedy and irrational. Don't take offense, I stand so cos I know some of these people in the APC and if you study their antecedents well, especially from the south west, maybe you will appreciate this better. While it took 16yrs to know pdp off from the center, Lagos is still under the grip of a power drunk monster, not because lagos ins like him or his ideologies but because he has compromised every sector of the state. Lagosians are not even the one ruling their lands and are struggling to get it out his hands. APC practically maimed every opposition and because no body is willing to play martyr, status quo is maintained. Same is going on in rivers, imo, Oyo and gradually the entire nation. So its not that you won't vote, we all will but it's still APC that is running INEC and are presently driving the tribunals.

So my friend, even tho I don't know you but cos you are a fellow Nigerian with Nigerians interest at heart, while I agree with you that Nigerian will vote out non performing government, however, time and government of the day is of essence. And so as not to sound pessimistic, a way out maybe Nigerians to be realistic in the assessment of the present government and confront them immediately, not waiting till 2019, not supporting them blindly on sentimental ground cos no body wants to be wrong. Nobody wants to be told, I told you so....

hush15:
If you say so but one thing I came to realise is that, as bad as pdp was, when push came to shove, they knew when to let go. In all the embezzling as overly proclaimed, they were still politically rational. As corrupt as they are said to be, they still allow you to have freewill and choose. APC sadly, I can't say they that rational nor even magnanimous to allow a free and fair environment.

You are right, the Nigerian vote eventually counted, yet you still need to give credit to the government of that day for making it so. In the last 55 yrs, as we all know, every government kills the opposition and doesn't low true democracy to prevail but the if there is anything I took from the last administration is that leveraging ground given to enjoy democracy as practised in saner countries but more is how long it took with a sane but corrupt party however how much more longer it will take with a party that is both greedy and irrational. Don't take offense, I stand so cos I know some of these people in the APC and if you study their antecedents well, especially from the south west, maybe you will appreciate this better. While it took 16yrs to know pdp off from the center, Lagos is still under the grip of a power drunk monster, not because lagos ins like him or his ideologies but because he has compromised every sector of the state. Lagosians are not even the one ruling their lands and are struggling to get it out his hands. APC practically maimed every opposition and because no body is willing to play martyr, status quo is maintained. Same is going on in rivers, imo, Oyo and gradually the entire nation. So its not that you won't vote, we all will but it's still APC that is running INEC and are presently driving the tribunals.

So my friend, even tho I don't know you but cos you are a fellow Nigerian with Nigerians interest at heart, while I agree with you that Nigerian will vote out non performing government, however, time and government of the day is of essence. And so as not to sound pessimistic, a way out maybe Nigerians to be realistic in the assessment of the present government and confront them immediately, not waiting till 2019, not supporting them blindly on sentimental ground cos no body wants to be wrong. Nobody wants to be told, I told you so....

All in all, the ball is in the court of the PDP to put its act together, hire fine brains and strategists and put the APC in check; that is exactly what the APC did. All the beautiful sermons about how PDP became democratically tolerant and civilised did not happen because PDP wanted it to be so; no heavenly angel fell upon the PDP to force it to change overnight. You need to understand that it took the emergence of an opposition APC to force PDP into democratic order.

Since the APC knew they did not have all the resources and autocratic powers of the PDP over the entire national institutions, the APC had to employ brilliant strategists and they went to the drawing board spending sleepless nights mapping out political strategies to knock the PDP off. DOn't ever get it twisted, all the beautiful things you mentioned about PDP happened because of the emergence of a real opposition.

So far I do not see the PDP coming up with any reasonable or superior strategies apart from wandering about waiting for the APC to do something so they can 'wail.' It seems like the only skill set the personnel left in PDP have is how to just loot and share money. This is the time when the PDP needs to hire new hands brains and re-strategize.

obailala:
Oh yes, kudos to him for that, God will bless him for that... but due to the multitude of his other unforgivable flaws, he just had to go.

what sins and without using propagander tell me how much ur life has "CHANGED" since he left gullible nigerians

Emyogalanya:
what sins and without using propagander tell me how much ur life has "CHANGED" since he left gullible nigerians

I do not have the strength to start going through the flaws of GEJ's leadership which only Igbos do not see. Maybe there's a spiritual explanation to why only Igbos are the only ones the world over who cannot still see anything wrong in GEJ's reign.

As for expecting any change in my life, I am a reasonable person and it is only common sense that I cannot expect any change in my life at this early stages. Besides, we are still running on the 2015 budget template which was produced by the last administration and which made absolutely no provisions for capital expenditure (hence all the abandoned projects).

If you really seek any change, at least the constant gas supply to power stations now has helped improve power supply a bit; you can judge from that.