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Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 8:57pm On Oct 29, 2015
chuna1985:
35 APC senators are against saraki
Thanks jaare, leave the guy that knows nothing about politics alone, 35 + at least 40 senators from pdp, pls tell me who will laugh last
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by hinwazaka: 8:57pm On Oct 29, 2015
VirginFinder:
Useless conspiracy theory!
Saraki is back to his senses!!
Then I guess the world is yours.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by ReachHard: 9:00pm On Oct 29, 2015
Badt guy cool cool No send PDP.... PDP fire!!! grin

Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:04pm On Oct 29, 2015
PDP needs Saraki more than he needs them now. PDP needs someone to spearhead rebellion against APC in Saraki because it hurts most if it comes from him but PDP cannot save Saraki from APC other than console him. PDP tantrum is not going to be effective at all.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by saintandsinnerz: 9:05pm On Oct 29, 2015
mazeltov:
Funny reply
Apc will. you still don't get it, do you? Saraki and other Apc senators have started closing their gap of disunity and the earlier Pdp knows this, the better for them. Who doesn't want to romance with power? Do you think that Apc as the majority would allow the senate president seat to be hijacked?

Lolzz, did you just say support Saraki? The support that Pdp is giving saraki is just for defection and to pin Amaechi down from being screened and confirmed but it's quite unfortunate for the Pdp that Saraki has started towing the party line and all he needs to do is to settle his case the Apc party leaders. And out of Pdp gigantesque political miscalculation and their mahoosive leadership ignorance anchored by the senate minority leader and his people, they decided to issued warning to saraki that they would withdraw their support if Amaechi was confirmed and Saraki being a smart guy as usual, he confirmed Amaechi. This is to tell you that Saraki understands where his power lies- his supremacy is not in the hand of Pdp's supports but in Apc's Unity hence, the importance of making peace with his senators. Now Amaechi has been confirmed as a minister so let Pdp withdraw their support. Saraki is simply smarter than Pdp
buh let me used this opportunity to break the news for you, Saraki has used and dumped Pdp

this does not answer or tackle my second point and for the sake of enlightenment,
David Mark started his career as a senate president in the year 2007-2015 which is eight years, i.e, two terms[/b]so tell me how he it's one term.

this does not answer my point too. You are politically naive.
Yes of course Apc cannot remove him and why would Apc remove him when he is a loyal member. At least Neither Apc nor Pdp can remove him and to the advantage, Saraki is an Apc member.

[b]this is the joke of the century.
So Apc could have impeached David Mark if they had their way. Listen to yourself. Let Pdp withdraw their support cus they have been used and support, Please don't let people hear this from you. You said two third of the house can impeach so how can minority of the house impeach him. This is the same mistake Pdp always make when it comes to calculation. They did it during governor's forum election too.


wake me up when Pdp impeach saraki
I have followed your argument with the OP and i must say I'm totally disappointed in you. You appear as being smart but i must say you are very ignorant. The OP made so many attempt to explain his position to you but you failed to see reasons in what he was saying. Maybe you have problem with comprehension, but i will try to paraphrase what the OP was telling you.
*Saraki can easily be removed if truly PDP senators have withdrawn their support for him
*You should know there are two factions in the APC senators: the like minds and the unity forum. The like minds are in support of Saraki while the unity forum supported Ahmed Lawan for the presidency. So if tomorrow the Ahmed Lawan faction (which is believed is the choice of APC leadership) decides to initiate a plan to remove Saraki, what they needed to do is to lobby the 48 PDP senators in order to get the 2/3 majority needed to remove him.
*Simply the guy was trying to tell you that PDP senators have a very big say in whether Saraki remains the senate president. If for example, Saraki was eventually removed, the PDP senators will also have a very big say who becomes the senate president. You may call them the beautiful bride if you like! I hope this makes sense to you?
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by onatisi(m): 9:06pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Bros, saraki knows the strenght of pdp block in the senate, pdp senator can remove him with support of those enstranged apc senator,lets wait as we get more clearer picture in the weeks ahead
can't you see that the walkout was stage managed and it was actually a sellout by pdp senators? Don't be surprised that pdp senators with their Apc counterparts will be going home tonight with some cool millions . Everything you saw today was a sham and it actually proves one thing ,pdp is 75% dead. In the next couple of months I wont be surprised if half of those senators that did the jamboree walkout join APc. What happened today was actually very disgusting and annoying
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Olumurphy(m): 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Pls go and learn politics, from your input it seems you are a novice in politics, but let me educate you a little bit.
1.saraki can only be removed by 2/3 of senators
2.pdp has 48 senators
3.apc 59 senators
4.pdp with 48 senators and few other from apc elect saraki as sp
5. With pdp 48 senators they will need just 25 senators from apc

Now tell me can pdp impeach sarakihuh
So! 25 senators are easy to collate under the watch of jagaban and apc governor, abeg go do ur permutation well, minority have the right to be heard but majority controls the house. Saraki may look compose but he's under control, all na just script play, na we nigerians just dey watch the movie season by season, that's why ministerial lists came in batches to form episodes.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by sandraokosun1: 9:10pm On Oct 29, 2015
hinwazaka:
Do you think this was just by chance. Before confirming Amaechi, he would have discussed everything with his PDP allies. The walkout was simply a theatrical performance. If you and the APC believe he is back to his APC platform, then I pity you
console urself, his body language and moves leaves him so off 4 all to see. Many several humilations pdp recieve he smiles and enjoy it
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:14pm On Oct 29, 2015
Olumurphy:
So! 25 senators are easy to collate under the watch of jagaban and apc governor, abeg go do ur permutation well, minority have the right to be heard but majority controls the house. Saraki may look compose but he's under control, all na just script play, na we nigerians just dey watch the movie season by season, that's why ministerial lists came in batches to form episodes.
If everybody is supporting is saraki, i know tinubu is not, based on his various utterance.
Like said earlier 35 apc senator loyal to jagaban will collide with pdp block
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by theV0ice: 9:14pm On Oct 29, 2015
onatisi:
can't you see that the walkout was stage managed and it was actually a sellout by pdp senators? Don't be surprised that pdp senators with their Apc counterparts will be going home tonight with some cool millions . Everything you saw today was a sham and it actually proves one thing ,pdp is 75% dead. In the next couple of months I wont be surprised if half of those senators that did the jamboree walkout join APc. What happened today was actually very disgusting and annoying
@the bold, it looks like an exaggeration but its not impossible. Anyway, one man I'm sure of is Akpabio. The guy acted a script all through the screening and today was the icing on the cake. He and Amaechi had settled a long time ago. Even Ekweremmadu isn't innocent.

Its a quagmire for Nigerians really. APC is still learning the ropes of governance while PDP sucks at learning how to stay in opposition.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:16pm On Oct 29, 2015
onatisi:
can't you see that the walkout was stage managed and it was actually a sellout by pdp senators? Don't be surprised that pdp senators with their Apc counterparts will be going home tonight with some cool millions . Everything you saw today was a sham and it actually proves one thing ,pdp is 75% dead. In the next couple of months I wont be surprised if half of those senators that did the jamboree walkout join APc. What happened today was actually very disgusting and annoying
It look so, but you can not seperate politics from everything,what i know is pdp wil strive for prominence in the senate...
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Oct 29, 2015
Trojavirus:
PDP needs Saraki more than he needs them now. PDP needs someone to spearhead rebellion against APC in Saraki because it hurts most if it comes from him but PDP cannot save Saraki from APC other than console him. PDP tantrum is not going to be effective at all.
Pdp did not need saraki, they only need any senator from apc that will do their bidding, if saraki is removed today, pdp will not queue on any anointed apc candidate..
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 9:33pm On Oct 29, 2015
It seems you always find it hard to read and understand lenghty reply.
Carmal90:
Answer to your post
1.who told those aggreived are not still angry?pls be current pls you can help urself by checking names of those that append their signature for supporting saraki
who are the aggrieved senators? They are the senators that Saraki used their slackness to win. Who are the senators that passed the vote of confidence? They are mostly Pdp members and some Saraki's Apc senators loyalist. Pdp members are shortsighted right from their minority leader down to the people on nairaland.
Only court right now can remove Saraki and not withdrawl of Pdp's support . If Saraki is removed, Ekweremadu too is gone[b] and that is the only source of power Pdp can't afford to lose so automatically the survival of Pdp in the Senate relies on the existence of Saraki as the senate president- if that is too difficult to understand, [b]Pdp is breathing at the mercy of Saraki in the Senate today and since Pdp wants to remain at the corridor of power they must support Saraki so automatically Pdp is a slave and ass licker to Saraki.[/b]

reply.
Carmal90:
[s]2.david mark serves two term as senate president right, but it was only the second election that he did not have opponent, the first one he akume contested with him...go and ask at home pls[/s]
this one has nothing to do with my point. Who cares if he contested eight times

Carmal90:
3.so why is enstranged apc member trying to remove him? And who told you they are relenting on removing him, it is very clear pdp alone cannot remove cos they did not made him sp alone, but 48 pdp senators and apc enstranged senators..oga go and do ur homework..
this is combination of Apc and Pdp to weild power to remove him and not the power of Pdp alone. Ask yourself, where were Saraki's senators today? Why couln't they come out and defend Pdp?

Carmal90:
4.apc could not have impeach mark cos the house was dominated by pdp then,
yes you are right. Pdp is dominating the house now and that's why they walked out during screening today since they are the majority. Pdp members and their calculation enh. 40 is always greater than 50 in Pdp lolzzz n

Carmal90:
5. Yes two third is required to impeach sp, who told you pdp with angry apc senators will not muster 2/3...
but you said Pdp can remove Saraki and not combination of Apc and Pdp. Your problem now is not only calculation but facts twisting.

Carmal90:
6.pls sleep, i will wake you when he is removed
don't bother yourself cus Pdp survival is on Saraki and Pdp will be worshipping him
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by philips70(m): 9:33pm On Oct 29, 2015
Please where is Chukwudi44? How can he be missing when important issues like these are being discussed? Is he still defending Saraki or he has withdrawn his support now that Saraki has thrown his Biafran party under the bus?
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by onatisi(m): 9:34pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
It look so, but you can not seperate politics from everything,what i know is pdp wil strive for prominence in the senate...
bros forget that party .majority of them don't want to be in the bad books of the president and believe me by 2018 , 3/4 of the pdp senators you saw today will be in APc
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by theV0ice: 9:40pm On Oct 29, 2015
philips70:
Please where is Chukwudi44? How can he be missing when important issues like these are being discussed? Is he still defending Saraki or he has withdrawn his support now that Saraki has thrown his Biafran party under the bus?
I wonder if he and his friends will continue supporting Saraki IMMENSALY cheesy
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Obynolee(f): 9:47pm On Oct 29, 2015
mazeltov:
your opinion sucks as they have said. The power of Saraki is in the hand of Apc and not Pdp. Saraki can be impeached by the collusion of Apc senators not Pdp senators. Don't you get it? Apc is the majority so how do you expect power to be in the hand of pdp?
You're a learner,who told you that all APC senators will que behind Saraki?
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:49pm On Oct 29, 2015
mazeltov:
It seems you always find it hard to read and understand lenghty reply. who are the aggrieved senators? They are the senators that Saraki used their slackness to win. Who are the senators that passed the vote of confidence? They are mostly Pdp members and some Saraki's Apc senators loyalist. Pdp members are shortsighted right from their minority leader down to the people on nairaland.
Only court right now can remove Saraki and not withdrawl of Pdp's support . If Saraki is removed, Ekweremadu too is gone[b] and that is the only source of power Pdp can't afford to lose so automatically the survival of Pdp in the Senate relies on the existence of Saraki as the senate president- if that is too difficult to understand, [b]Pdp is breathing at the mercy of Saraki in the Senate today and since Pdp wants to remain at the corridor of power they must support Saraki so automatically Pdp is a slave and ass licker to Saraki.[/b]

reply. this one has nothing to do with my point. Who cares if he contested eight times

this is combination of Apc and Pdp to weild power to remove him and not the power of Pdp alone. Ask yourself, where were Saraki's senators today? Why couln't they come out and defend Pdp?

yes you are right. Pdp is dominating the house now and that's why they walked out during screening today since they are the majority. Pdp members and their calculation enh. 40 greater than 50 in Pdp lolzzz n

but you said Pdp can remove Saraki and not combination of Apc and Pdp. Your problem now is not only calculation but facts twisting.

don't bother yourself cus Pdp survival is on Saraki and Pdp will be worshipping him
Reply to you post
1. So since saraki outsmarted them they are not a senator again abii...continue displaying your ignorance.
2.if i may ask you how many senators endorsed sarakihuh
3.pdp know they are minority in the senate, guy if acn/apc can survive pdp during their days as majority party, what stops pdp?
4.yes i agreed, pdp need those slacked apc mamber to impeach saraki which is nt far fetched if you are following politics.
5.sorry, you dont know the differnce between dominated, then pdp had more than 2/3 senators, apc have just 59:..use ur calculator
6. Stop been clown, polical analyst knows what am talking about?
7. Hypocrisy is when you claim saraki romance with pdp to be senate president, but denying now that they cannot impeach himm


Go and learn politics..it is not by awaawii, we are born,bred and practicing politics
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 9:53pm On Oct 29, 2015
focus7:
you reason in one direction. And you think the 35 senators will form ally with PDP senators? I guess even a goat reasons better.
Over 20 APC senators has already form alliance with pdp to install saraki as Senate president n Ekweremmadu as Deputy.....


What makes u fink the 40 senators that are angry with saraki for thieving the Senate president seat can't ally with pdphuh
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:07pm On Oct 29, 2015
saintandsinnerz:
I have followed your argument with the OP and i must say I'm totally disappointed in you. You appear as being smart but i must say you are very ignorant. The OP made so many attempt to explain his position to you but you failed to see reasons in what he was saying. Maybe you have problem with comprehension, but i will try to paraphrase what the OP was telling you.
*Saraki can easily be removed if truly PDP senators have withdrawn their support for him
*You should know there are two factions in the APC senators: the like minds and the unity forum. The like minds are in support of Saraki while the unity forum supported Ahmed Lawan for the presidency. So if tomorrow the Ahmed Lawan faction (which is believed is the choice of APC leadership) decides to initiate a plan to remove Saraki, what they needed to do is to lobby the 48 PDP senators in order to get the 2/3 majority needed to remove him.
*Simply the guy was trying to tell you that PDP senators have a very big say in whether Saraki remains the senate president. If for example, Saraki was eventually removed, the PDP senators will also have a very big say who becomes the senate president. You may call them the beautiful bride if you like! I hope this makes sense to you?
all your effort to prove your smartness have resulted to an overwhelming projection of your ignorance. Against the emptied warning of Pdp as regards to confirmation of Amaechi, Saraki and the majority of Apc senators went ahead to confirmed Amaechi -. This is to tell you that Saraki knows where he belongs and he is ready to tow the party line while the Pdp are still trying to invent disconcerion. Had it been that Pdp members are not politically shortsighted and politically naive not to have seen the sudden reemergence of Unity in Apc caucus with Saraki, they would have known that it's high timed they stopped investing on the gap created by disunity in Apc which brought Saraki in as the senate president.
Saraki doesn't want to be impeached or go to jail because he knows that playing bat-like politics with Apc and Pdp won't uphold him for long so he needs a camp. Moreso he won't be stupid as your some shallow-minded pdp members had thought- that he would pitch his tent against Apc. Whether 2/3 or no 2/3 vote, Pdp power ends once the aggrieved senators in Apc are settled. Quote me anywhere, the power of Pdp relies on Disunity of Apc and once Apc unite and settle score with Saraki, there won't be feeding ground for the pigs in Pdp again.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:12pm On Oct 29, 2015
Obynolee:
You're a learner,who told you that all APC senators will que behind Saraki?
tell me it's not possible.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:13pm On Oct 29, 2015
Obynolee:
You're a learner,who told you that all APC senators will que behind Saraki?
tell me it's not possible. Tell me that all Apc senators can't see saraki as their senate president.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Reply to you post
1. So since saraki outsmarted them they are not a senator again abii...continue displaying your ignorance.
2.if i may ask you how many senators endorsed sarakihuh
3.pdp know they are minority in the senate, guy if acn/apc can survive pdp during their days as majority party, what stops pdp?
4.yes i agreed, pdp need those slacked apc mamber to impeach saraki which is nt far fetched if you are following politics.
5.sorry, you dont know the differnce between dominated, then pdp had more than 2/3 senators, apc have just 59:..use ur calculator
6. Stop been clown, polical analyst knows what am talking about?
7. Hypocrisy is when you claim saraki romance with pdp to be senate president, but denying now that they cannot impeach himm


Go and learn politics..it is not by awaawii, we are born,bred and practicing politics
your argument lies on power of 2/3 of the senate which is only effective when we still have aggrieved senators. You don't reason ahead, that is your problem. Now assuming there are no aggrieved senators in Apc, what would be the trend now? Please go and rest.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by essemdeey350(m): 10:23pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Pls go and learn politics, from your input it seems you are a novice in politics, but let me educate you a little bit.
1.saraki can only be removed by 2/3 of senators
2.pdp has 48 senators
3.apc 59 senators
4.pdp with 48 senators and few other from apc elect saraki as sp
5. With pdp 48 senators they will need just 25 senators from apc

Now tell me can pdp impeach sarakihuh
Bro APC has 64 senators and PDP has 43.. Be conversant and deal with facts and figures.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 10:29pm On Oct 29, 2015
essemdeey350:
Bro APC has 64 senators and PDP has 43.. Be conversant and deal with facts and figures.
You are a learner, those sacked by tribunal are still a senator, they are appealing tribunal judgement
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by Nobody: 10:32pm On Oct 29, 2015
mazeltov:
your argument lies on power of 2/3 of the senate which is only effective when we still have aggrieved senators. You don't reason ahead, that is your problem. Now assuming there are no aggrieved senators in Apc, what would be the trend now? Please go and rest.
Why wont they be aggreived person?? Even president buhari has pdp as party as aggreived, oga you dont no anything about politics..

Saraki is smart, but he will be outsmarted if pdp block in senate turns against him....
My point of arguement
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:47pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Why wont they be aggreived person?? Even president buhari has pdp as party as aggreived, oga you dont no anything about politics..

Saraki is smart, but he will be outsmarted if pdp block in senate turns against him....
My point of arguement
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by mazeltov(m): 10:52pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Why wont they be aggreived person?? Even president buhari has pdp as party as aggreived, oga you dont no anything about politics..

Saraki is smart, but he will be outsmarted if pdp block in senate turns against him....
My point of arguement
even let the whole Pdp in Nigeria turn against him, once he settles himself with his pary leaders and the senators - which he is currently doing, then Pdp is as beautiful as a flying corpse. I repeat whether 2/3 or no 2/3, Apc's unity with Saraki as the majority in the house will make pdp useless
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by gabicon: 11:19pm On Oct 29, 2015
It's funny how we argue about this things, in politics there are no permanent friends and no permanent enemies it all about personal interest. Saraki trial was a message sent by PMB to the senate that he has their dirty laundry hence everyone should sit up. I laugh when people say it is jagaban that is after saraki, let's learn from history on the behaviour of military men, they are trained to be strategist and ghost you never see them coming or leaving the damage is the only evidence of their presence.

Saraki will remain senate president but a weakened one. PDP should get over amaechi after all if they didn't play politics blindly the whole PDP mess won't have happened.
We the youths need to stop focusing on useless politics and start pressuring our government to create sustainable development for us.
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by lawnreigh(m): 11:53pm On Oct 29, 2015
Carmal90:
Reply to you post
1. So since saraki outsmarted them they are not a senator again abii...continue displaying your ignorance.
2.if i may ask you how many senators endorsed sarakihuh
3.pdp know they are minority in the senate, guy if acn/apc can survive pdp during their days as majority party, what stops pdp?
4.yes i agreed, pdp need those slacked apc mamber to impeach saraki which is nt far fetched if you are following politics.
5.sorry, you dont know the differnce between dominated, then pdp had more than 2/3 senators, apc have just 59:..use ur calculator
6. Stop been clown, polical analyst knows what am talking about?
7. Hypocrisy is when you claim saraki romance with pdp to be senate president, but denying now that they cannot impeach himm


Go and learn politics..it is not by awaawii, we are born,bred and practicing politics
brother leave dat guy alone he is too ignorant and a shallow thinker as well I've been following the post right from the beginning to when the guy was trying to shed light on sometyns for him and now u, he can't comprehend things and speaking out of ignorance he even said the worst by ruling out Pdp survival to be in the hand of Saraki but he forget to realise dat there is no permanent enemy or friend in politics, My own position is that should Saraki betray Pdp 1 more tym his impeachment momentum will start gathering wh will finally bring an end to his reign, no party has power to single handedly remove him but if his betrayal game continue, they will later come to a round table to frustrate him out and ministerial screening is a big acid test for him within the Pdp and Apc can never trust him in any circumstances cos once a betrayal is always 1
Re: Will Saraki Enjoy The Support Of Pdp Block In Senate Again?? by chris51(f): 12:41am On Oct 30, 2015
PDP can not impeach Saraki. With the obstacles they put on the way for Amaechi, PDP didn't succeed. How can they succeed in impeaching Saraki?
APC is more united than people think
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