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raumdeuter:
Hazard phenomenon? Do you really understand English? Or you mean "Femo scorpion"

If Hazard is a phenomenon then Quaresma, Bellarabi, Denilson Simao Sabrosa are all phenomenon

You remember when I started this Hazard argument with you

Lol....u ehn, the word 'Phenomenon' is ambiguous, in this context, I means he's a wonderful talent, isn't he??

Only you and Oga Coogar still think he's shiit, ur opinions are respected, na Nairaland e end

Ibime:
No doubt ninjas are under-par all over. . . .but consider this. . .

Man Utd - 4th position - 15 goals scored

Chelsea - fighting relegation - 16 goals scored

The ninjas who are letting the team down most of all are those protecting the defence. Our current strike rate is better than Man Utd's and they are challenging for title!

All thanks to their defence and midfield.

De Gea > Begovic


Darmian > Iva


Smalling > Terry and Cahill put together.


Schneiderlin > Matic


Shaw = Azpi


Of cos, they wud concede lesser goals than us, we do really miss Courtois.

Man u might be worse than us currently if not for the defence and tight midfield.

I aint even talking about Mou's comments. I guess you dont do Twitter. If you do, you will be amazed at the number of delusional folks who think with their butts.

@ the emboldened, you should shoot yourself then cause you have made a worse statement than that.

Chelseafan1:
Whoever said these needs to spend years at the psychiatry, how can someone claim that Hazard, who hasn't been able to score more than 22 goals per season is on par with a 4-time Ballon D' or winner?? Are you sure you people arent the ones fabricating lies just to pull him down?? whoever said that beside me will receive a hot slap.

He's not even close to cr7, dem no be mates, Mou was like he had a better season than CR7 last time out ONLY, that was his opinion, he had his reasons....I think the world blew it outta proportion and it has been trending till date.

SIRcumalot:
The last two player of the season that left the EPL left at their peak.
Hazard form so far this season cast some doubt about his ability.

it's mostly mental or deliberate.
look at it.......hazard was way better than the current shyte he's serving at the moment. it's not like he had a big injury that ruled him out for a long term like falcao or torres. nothing has changed with hazard. he probably just misses his fückbuddy(eva)

Torres joined Chelsea mid season and was still playing well for liverpool can't say the same for hazard.

he had already regressed before he joined chelsea. he's carried injuries after injuries and yet still went for £50m. once the brits think you are gold, it takes a while for that gold to fade off. they are the most forgiving in euröpe once you give them that first impression of greatness.

But they both came with big reputation also this is Falcao 2nd season.

falcao had a serious injury pre-world cup. many people were doubtful he would be as good as he was in athletico/porto. besides, he didn't convince the brïtish pundits so he doesn't quite have the same effect as hazard!

65mill£ is thomas Muller tier type of money currently hazard isn't not on that level.

you are only looking at the ability now.....the market value is a different issue entirely. if it's about ability alone, no one would sniff david beckham.

hazard is good looking.....he has some ability, he's quite young too. if managed properly, he has all the ingredients of a marketable player. i am also sure hazard is more popular than muller.

add all those indices together and you can see hazard notching up to £70m in transfer fees alone. he would sell half of that amount in shirts alone, never mind the endorsements.

raumdeuter:
When I broke the news that Hazard was overrated many said I was hating

I broke the news that Terry is crap. They said I was hating

I said Matic has regressed. They all argued with me

I said Yaya was a shittty DM. They yelled

I said Kompany was average they screamed

Heck 5yrs ago, I declared that Torres is a waste. They almost tore off my head

All my above position is now gaining popularity even among people who vehemently disagreed

Hope you have learnt your lessons, When I say anything even whe you think I might be wrong just admit I am right

UNNECCESSARY PRIDE

dmcdad:
I aint even talking about Mou's comments. I guess you dont do Twitter. If you do, you will be amazed at the number of delusional folks who think with their butts.

@ the emboldened, you should shoot yourself then cause you have made a worse statement than that.

I don't do twitter, too many comedians there.

Made worse statements, I doubt it?? I'm not sentimental, that's one thing you people have failed to realise, I say it as it is.

If you've got the time bro, I dare you to expose me, pull out posts where I claimed Hazard is on par with Messi or is a better player than CR7 overall.

I wanna let the past be so. And for not being sentimental, that's a far cry from the truth honestly.

You eat, drink and sleep sentiments especially when it involves Hazard.

Chelseafan1:
I don't do twitter, too many comedians there.

Made worse statements, I doubt it?? I'm not sentimental, that's one thing you people have failed to realise, I say it as it is.

If you've got the time bro, I dare you to expose me, pull out posts where I claimed Hazard is on par with Messi or is a better player than CR7 overall.

Chestar5:
accepted..
frnw.....

Ok oh

Ibime:
No doubt ninjas are under-par all over. . . .but consider this. . .

Man Utd - 4th position - 15 goals scored

Chelsea - fighting relegation - 16 goals scored

The ninjas who are letting the team down most of all are those protecting the defence. Our current strike rate is better than Man Utd's and they are challenging for title!

defence win titles.....
a team with eleven 1-0 wins would have 11 league goals scored with 33 points on the league table. the crux is to outscore the opponents. it can also be argued that chelsea's leaky defence is the reason they are scoring more goals than is required to win games for them. 1-0 win is enough to get 3 points.

coogar:
it's mostly mental or deliberate.
look at it.......hazard was way better than the current shyte he's serving at the moment. it's not like he had a big injury that ruled him out for a long term like falcao or torres. nothing has changed with hazard. he probably just misses his fückbuddy(eva)



he had already regressed before he joined chelsea. he's carried injuries after injuries and yet still went for £50m. once the brits think you are gold, it takes a while for that gold to fade off. they are the most forgiving in euröpe once you give them that first impression of greatness.



falcao had a serious injury pre-world cup. many people were doubtful he would be as good as he was in athletico/porto. besides, he didn't convince the brïtish pundit so he doesn't quite have the same effect as hazard!



you are only looking at the ability now.....the market value is a different issue entirely. if it's about ability alone, no one would sniff david beckham.

hazard is good looking.....he has some ability, he's quite young too. if managed properly, he has all the ingredients of a marketable player. i am also sure hazard is more popular than muller.

add all those indices together and you can see hazard notching up to £70m in transfer fees alone. he would sell half of that amount in shirts alone, never mind the endorsements.

When you say some things at times, I just feel like blessing you with a brand new 2015 G-wagon

but at other times, u type a lot of shitts that one wud think u just finished drinking yourself to stupor.

You know Hazard's current showing myt be due to missing Eva as u claimed, why then wud u be firm in ur stance that he's just a flash in the pan, it got so bad, all these Nairaland small boys are also using the line more than u now.


P.S : No yab me abeg, my father can't even afford a 2010 Toyota Camry....I was only kidding, yesterday's finishing still dey my body, I never recover finish.

Chelseafan1:
All thanks to their defence and midfield.

De Gea > Begovic


Darmian > Iva


Smalling > Terry and Cahill put together.


Schneiderlin > Matic


Shaw = Azpi


Of cos, they wud concede lesser goals than us, we do really miss Courtois.

Man u might be worse than us currently if not for the defence and tight midfield.

They would be worse than us.

And if you take away their midfield enforcements in the last 2 years ie Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Herrera. . . . that defence will concede bucketloads like in Moyes era where they concede 2 goals a game without fail. . . . the defence is not the major difference, the midfield is.

dmcdad:
I wanna let the past be so. And for not being sentimental, that's a far cry from the truth honestly.

You eat, drink and sleep sentiments especially when it involves Hazard.

Maybe when we compare him to Neymar, but Messi and Ronaldo, abeg no be me.

Okay. Good thing you now agree you are sentimental when he is being compared to Neymar.

Thank God! At last!

Chelseafan1:
Maybe when we compare him to Neymar, but Messi and Ronaldo, abeg no be me.

Ibime:
They would be worse than us.

And if you take away their midfield enforcements in the last 2 years ie Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Herrera. . . . that defence will concede bucketloads like in Moyes era where they concede 2 goals a game without fail. . . . the defence is not the major difference, the midfield is.

Schneiderlin is not better than Matic, Herrera who doesn't get much playing time is not soooo better than Willian/Oscar, how has Scheini been far better than Fab defensively?? he's even older.

Darmian has been a beast, far better than Iva

De gea, as always has been a revelation, he was the leagues best goalie last time out, he has even improved this season.

Smalling too, he's been better than baba Terry and Cahill put together.

Chelseafan1:
When you say some things at times, I just feel like blessing you with a brand new 2015 G-wagon

but at other times, u type a lot of shitts that one wud think u just finished drinking yourself to stupor.

when i tell you stuff, take it as the gospel!
no one ever said hazard is a bottom tier player. it's only when you guys hype him through the roof that we tell you lots to slow down cos he's not yet there.

You know Hazard's current showing myt be due to missing Eva as u claimed, why then wud u be firm in ur stance that he's just a flash in the pan, it got so bad, all these Nairaland small boys are also using the line more than u now.

hazard has only had one brilliant season. a piece of asś shouldn't be making him lose focus to produce shyte performance. if someone like ronaldo or messi performs even worse than hazard, they can be easily forgiven for what they had achieved in the past.

that isn't quite the case with hazard.
brilliance in one season can easily be termed as a flash in the pan. hazard should have built on last season's launchpad to improve himself. so if anyone says hazard fluked it last season then it's a valid point!

P.S : No yab me abeg, my father can't even afford a 2010 Toyota Camry....I was only kidding, yesterday's finishing still dey my body, I never recover finish.

i only give back what i get.
people who quote me with respect get my respect as well. that's the way i roll!

dmcdad:
Okay. Good thing you now agree you are sentimental when he is being compared to Neymar.

Thank God! At last!

Lol....say the truth, can Neymar bail this my useless team outta this mess singlehandedly when Costa and Fabregas are both off form.

Try and recollect how unhappy you were when Suarez wasn't converting his chances...how wud Neymar even survive if both Rakitic and Suarez are both off form??

Chelseafan1:
Schneiderlin is not better than Matic, Herrera who doesn't get much playing time is not soooo better than Willian/Oscar, how has Scheini been far better than Fab defensively?? he's even older.

Darmian has been a beast, far better than Iva

De gea, as always has been a revelation, he was the leagues best goalie last time out, he has even improved this season.

Smalling too, he's been better than baba Terry and Cahill put together.

Schneiderlin or Matic depending on your preference. Energy and pace wise though, Schneiderlin is faster and fitter than Matic.

Schweinsteiger >>>>>> Fab4, Mikel + Ramires combined in the pivot.

coogar:
when i tell you stuff, take it as the gospel!
no one ever said hazard is a bottom tier player. it's only when you guys hype him through the roof that we tell you lots to slow down cos he's not yet there.



hazard has only had one brilliant season. a piece of asś shouldn't be making him lose focus to produce shyte performance. if someone like ronaldo or messi performs even worse than hazard, they can be easily forgiven for what they had achieved in the past.

that isn't quite the case with hazard.
brilliance in one season can easily be termed as a flash in the pan. hazard should have built on last season's launchpad to improve himself. so if anyone says hazard fluked it last season then it's a valid point!



i only give back what i get.
people who quote me with respect get my respect as well. that's the way i roll!

Noo, I don't think he's a flash in the pan, he was impressive in France, he's had 3 solid seasons as a CFC player, the first one, he won the Europa with us, 2nd one, he won the league's best young player when he was 23, Suarez won the PFA
The third season, which was last year, he won the PFA player of the year, FWA player of the year, CFCs best player of the year.

We all, you inclusive tot he was gonna lit up the league this season but the team has been found out, too many controversies surrounding the Coach, he's made lots of bad decisions, when you look at Hazard, you see an unhappy player, he's been criticised, insulted, unappreciated and he was the player being attended to by Eva when Mou lashed out at the young woman.

He shudnt be regarded as a flash in the pan, this isn't about him but the team.

Are you for real? Rakitic has been way off form since the start of the season. Suarez has been scoring, but he has also been missing lots of chances.

The major difference (aside some subtle ones) between Neymar and Hazard is that Neymar can create as well as score goals. So, even if he creates and the striker is off form (like Suarez sometimes), then he produces the goal himself.

Imagine, in the league alone, since Messi got injured, Neymar has scored same amount of goals as Suarez, with an add-on of being the catalyst behind almost every goal we have scored.

I can authoritatively and affirmatively say that, if Neymar were to be in this present Chelsea team, your team wont be struggling with relegation as is the case now.

This is one of Barca's worse season defensively in a while now. But then take a look at the league table, you will see us up there alongside Madrid who have conceded the least. Why? Simply because we have been outscoring our opponents for the most part. Therefore, I think if Neymar were to be in your squad now, although you still have other lapses in the squad (midfield and defence), but I believe you guys would have obviously scored far more than you have at this juncture. That itself would have been enough to catapult you guys to anywhere around the top 5 in the table.

Chelseafan1:
Lol....say the truth, can Neymar bail this my useless team outta this mess singlehandedly when Costa and Fabregas are both off form.

Try and recollect how unhappy you were when Suarez wasn't converting his chances...how wud Neymar even survive if both Rakitic and Suarez are both off form??

Chelseafan1:
Noo, I don't think he's a flash in the pan, he was impressive in France, he's had 3 solid seasons as a CFC player, the first one, he won the Europa with us, 2nd one, he won the league's best young player when he was 23, Suarez won the PFA. The third season, which was last year, he won the PFA player of the year, FWA player of the year, CFCs best player of the year.

mourinho's CV is even more impressive. jose has won in portugal, spain, italy & twice with england. so who do you blame? are we going to suggest mourinho suddenly became brainless and he's lost his man-managerial skills?

We all, you inclusive tot he was gonna lit up the league this season but the team has been found out, too many controversies surrounding the Coach, he's made lots of bad decisions, when you look at Hazard, you see an unhappy player, he's been criticised, insulted, unappreciated and he was the player being attended to by Eva when Mou lashed out at the young woman.

hazard has no excuse......
he was shyte before the eva saga. we should stop making excuses for him. eva's issue is just a distraction.....there has been a massive decline in his performance long before the eva ish.

He shudnt be regarded as a flash in the pan, this isn't about him but the team.

until he proves himself again in england, he would forever be regarded as a flash in the pan. he's a one season wonder. i cannot remember any good game hazard has played this season that can match his exploits last season.

remember, the belgian coach also complained about hazard - so this isn't about mourinho. the boy has lost the drive & ambition to be a better player. his body language has been awful since the preseason. the nucca needs a 3 weeks break in dubai to sort himself out.

Mourinholic:
Abeg go smoke......
Yaya is shit yet he keeps getting recognitions, if we go by the goals and assists rubbish of yours,he has been the best Cm in the world for 3 years now...
Kompany isn't average,far ahead of boateng on every rating...
I don't get your nonsense about Terry,U said a 26-28 Terry is crap,you waited till he regressed at 34,34!!! and you are claiming to have been right all along
You said Hazard isn't world class,has anyone agreed on that with you? Hazard is world class,if you like it or not....

Whch recognitions does Yaya get? The one from Premier league? Tell us about Yaya's performance in Europe

Show me ANY rating that puts Komopany ahead of Boateng. Boateng is a God where Kompany is.

I didnt wait till terry regressed, I told you Terry was rubbish around the time you all claimed he was the best defender in EUrope

Hazard is world class to who? You? Can you count the number of Chelsea fans on here who have said hazrad is rubbish?

A world class player doesnt get benched or substituted after 57mins by his coach unless World class has another meaning

Chelseafan1:
Lol....u ehn, the word 'Phenomenon' is ambiguous, in this context, I means he's a wonderful talent, isn't he??

Only you and Oga Coogar still think he's shiit, ur opinions are respected, na Nairaland e end

Only me and Coogar?

Can you count the number of Chelsea fans on this thread alone who have said the same thing even in the past 1 week?

All over social media Chelsea fans are attacking Hazard for being mediocre only ppl like you his fanboys are still loyal to him

Only me and coogar you say but his coach has benched him, criticised him openly and even substituted him after 56mins without being injured

That means Mourinho agrees with me

Chestar5:
UNNECCESSARY PRIDE

Unnecesary? That comes with the territory when I am always right

Like in animal fam, I should make folks on this thread repeat twice daily

"R@umdeuter is always right"

Chelseafan1:
Lol....say the truth, can Neymar bail this my useless team outta this mess singlehandedly when Costa and Fabregas are both off form.

Try and recollect how unhappy you were when Suarez wasn't converting his chances...how wud Neymar even survive if both Rakitic and Suarez are both off form??

Brazil is worse than Chelsea and neymar carries them. How many games has brazil won since Neymar got suspended.

I can tell you that if not for Neymar Brazil wont make it beyond the world cup group stages or worst case 2nd round.

Neymar almost singlehandedly took them to the semi before he got injured

coogar:
it's mostly mental or deliberate.
look at it.......hazard was way better than the current shyte he's serving at the moment. it's not like he had a big injury that ruled him out for a long term like falcao or torres. nothing has changed with hazard. he probably just misses his fückbuddy(eva)



he had already regressed before he joined chelsea. he's carried injuries after injuries and yet still went for £50m. once the brits think you are gold, it takes a while for that gold to fade off. they are the most forgiving in euröpe once you give them that first impression of greatness.



falcao had a serious injury pre-world cup. many people were doubtful he would be as good as he was in athletico/porto. besides, he didn't convince the brïtish pundit so he doesn't quite have the same effect as hazard!



you are only looking at the ability now.....the market value is a different issue entirely. if it's about ability alone, no one would sniff david beckham.

hazard is good looking.....he has some ability, he's quite young too. if managed properly, he has all the ingredients of a marketable player. i am also sure hazard is more popular than muller.

add all those indices together and you can see hazard notching up to £70m in transfer fees alone. he would sell half of that amount in shirts alone, never mind the endorsements.

This na how evil people spread the rumour about Zaha plowing Moyes daughter.
My current hazard valuation is based on current form.
if he comes back to form he'll probably be worth that much.
This talk don tire me.
Dude isn't going anywhere.

Griffon:
This is balderdash brah. Cesc is no CM. Being a central midfielder doesn't end at stringing together passes and dictating play.

Following the departure of Patrick Viera to Juventus, Cesc was expected to fill the void left by the Frenchman, that he was given the number 4 shirt. Just like we saw with Chelsea last season, Cesc kept chalking up goals and assists for the gunners whilst amassing several personal awards. He was idolised by many. But guess what? The almighty Cesc had only one FA Cup title to show for his eight seasons at Arsenal.

It was all sexy football at Arsenal with nothing to back it up, same shit we're being served this season. Arsenal couldn't stand Chelsea or even Manyoo then. Cesc's inability to provide some steel in the gunners' midfield was the symptomatic of the larger problem surrounding Arsenal then.

I'm sure Cesc is the only CM in the history of football to have been featured as a striker for his team. Being used in a variety of different roles simply entails that he's yet to make the CM role his.

I can't imagine either of Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard, Schweinsteiger, Keane, Modric, Kroos, Xavi, Alonso or even Vidal being used a false nine. These are men that win the midfield battle, men that win you the game.

Ibime must have bitten you in the neck. Is it a lack of Steel that is making Hazard misplace passes? Is it lack of Steel that that caused Costa to forget where the goal is?

In case you forgot, we were fortunate to draw 2-2 with Swansea featuring the exact same midfield pairing that chopped 4 last September. So Matic-Fab were better than Ki-Shelvey then, but are not as good as them a year later?

We lost to Palace 2-1 when we beat them last year with exactly the same midfield on both sides(bar Cabaye). So back then Fab was a man that could win the battle, but not anymore?

We lost 3-1 to an Everton side that collected 6 last year. Last year Barry-Mccarthy faced up to Matic-Ramires. Same happened this year. Did Barry-McCarthy drink steroids?

Oh My God, we almost lost to Newcastle for God's sake. Need I remind you, Newcastle are one of the teams that are In the relegation Zone. Do they also have a better midfield than us? Were they also 'winning the midfield battle'?

What is this goddam midfield battle?

There is a midfield problem yes, but this same midfield trashed the exact same guys I listed above only a few months ago.

raumdeuter:
Unnecesary? That comes with the territory when I am always right
Like in animal fam, I should make folks on this thread repeat twice daily
"R@umdeuter is always right"

haba, no one is always right ..
Dayo a.k.a raumdeuter is not always right ....

Nawa o. See Epistles ontop Hazard head

Nihilist:
Ibime must have bitten you in the neck. Is it a lack of Steel that is making Hazard misplace passes? Is it lack of Steel that that caused Costa to forget where the goal is?

In case you forgot, we were fortunate to draw 2-2 with Swansea featuring the exact same midfield pairing that chopped 4 last September. So Matic-Fab were better than Ki-Shelvey then, but are not as good as them a year later?

We lost to Palace 2-1 when we beat them last year with exactly the same midfield on both sides(bar Cabaye). So back then Fab was a man that could win the battle, but not anymore?

We lost 3-1 to an Everton side that collected 6 last year. Last year Barry-Mccarthy faced up to Matic-Ramires. Same happened this year. Did Barry-McCarthy drink steroids?

Oh My God, we almost lost to Newcastle for God's sake. Need I remind you, Newcastle are one of the teams that are In the relegation Zone. Do they also have a better midfield than us? Were they also 'winning the midfield battle'?

What is this goddam midfield battle?

There is a midfield problem yes, but this same midfield trashed the exact same guys I listed above only a few months ago.

Griffon has sense. Now we are just praying for you to receive sense! Abrigidipapawamananama. . . . in the name of Fenibeso. . . . receive sense!

Quit telling us about what Fabregas did in 2014. Fabregas has been removed from pivot since Jan 1st 2015!

Start of last season teams were in awe of Chelsea's new signings and came with mentality of parking the bus. Once they clicked that Fabregas is a weak link if you attack him, he was removed from the pivot to prevent obvious rapings that were taking place. Infact, you spent good chunk of last season telling us our RCM is abysmal defensively, abi na lie?

Wetin concern us with blaming attacking players. We have more goals than Man Utd . . . . yet we are battling relegation!!!!

You said yesterday the team is sitting back and playing safe. If the team is "sitting back and playing safe", obviously we won't score that many goals. . . . yet the same ninjas "sitting back and playing safe" manage to concede 3 goals every phucking game. Their incompetence is made in Makurdi.

Abi we go score 3 goals each game just to collect one point?

Quit yarning out of both sides of your mouth!

Nihilist:
Look at Fab in the build up to the 3rd goal and weep.

SIRcumalot:
If you watched him last season you go understand hazard is a good player overrated but good.
If the rumors about the jose-hazard beef is true reconciliation na the best course of action.
Chelsea won't get big money for hazard if he comot january.

Na either Mikel or Falcao be the rat

You are looking for the wrong scapegoats here... How would Mikel benefit from this? There is no reason why a "Chelsea-like Torres" kind of player would do that either! Falcao-He is not his former self... I think an attack-minded player would be responsible though - Hazard comes to mind...

coogar:
hazard is a useless player.....
he's the one fücking eva carneiro & he's been brooding ever since jose sacked eva. he makes millions of pounds a year & he wants to forfeit all that cash because of a piece of aśs!

how worthless can a player be? in one of the biggest games of the season for chelsea, hazard produced nothing against liverpool. let's look at the stats, shall we?

0 - chances created
0 - shots on target
0 - number of crosses
0 - number of players beaten with a dribble.

yet, ibime & co are blaming mikel & ramires. so it's mikel's fault that hazard has lost his skills? if the ball won't stay long in the final third before its lost, the midfield & the defence would be constantly put under pressure.

football is a team game! no team can really afford carrying a passenger like hazard in it & then expect to do well. put hazard on the bench and let players who are still hungry take his place for a while & things will improve.

rooney has been utter shyte this season but hazard's stats against liverpool is a new low. it's the lowest of low. if he doesn't want to play for mourinho again, he should tender his resignation & fück off to madrid/PSG. chelsea didn't turn shyte overnight......it's the undesirable elements like hazard that is making the team look like shyte!

When Mikel n Ramires start to dey play sef... Especially Mikel wet dey warm bench until Matic chop red... Smh!

Mikel: Those blaming me! You all are doing yourselves!!!

As for hazard: he is immature, unprofessional and ungrateful...

You won't see this non-challant attitude with old school players trying to drag their coach to the mud!

Chelseafan1:
Schneiderlin is not better than Matic, Herrera who doesn't get much playing time is not soooo better than Willian/Oscar, how has Scheini been far better than Fab defensively?? he's even older.

Darmian has been a beast, far better than Iva

De gea, as always has been a revelation, he was the leagues best goalie last time out, he has even improved this season.

Smalling too, he's been better than baba Terry and Cahill put together.

Beast ke? Where?