raumdeuter:


Assuming they really hated each other

1. Why did he sign for the same Jose?

2. How did he convince others that have been there before him, some before h even started playing football to hate him

fabregas is one of the newest Chelsea players but he is the one who convinced the players against jose

Its like saying Schneiderlin or Herrera is leading Rooney, Carrick etc to revoly

raumdeuter:


Assuming they really hated each other

1. Why did he sign for the same Jose?

2. How did he convince others that have been there before him, some before h even started playing football to hate him

fabregas is one of the newest Chelsea players but he is the one who convinced the players against jose

Its like saying Schneiderlin or Herrera is leading Rooney, Carrick etc to revoly

Nihilist:

Nobody knows for sure if it's Fabregas, but consider these three key facts:
That's all you need to for a quorum.

SIRcumalot:

I don't know about fab leading the mutiny but he is the 1st or 2nd suspect for whoever made that "I'll rather lose than win for mourinho"
Fabregas na rat arsenal fans go back me up.

Nihilist:


So you expected Fabregas to come out and announce that he is the rat?

When Jose said he has rats in his dressing room, was he also working for the British media?

Seems like you lot don't actually know how embedded some of these journalists are at some clubs.

Who do you think writes the autobiographies of these guys? You think the footballers themselves just pick up a biro and start writing?

I've worked in publishing for one of the so called Big 5 for the group that published Ferguson's, Lampard's, Mourinho's books amongst many others.

The ghost writers for many of these guys are actually sports journalists. So when one of them says 'xyz', they may be lying, but there's also a very good chance that they are telling the truth.

Journos and players are a lot closer than you may think...

Xhaka:

You must be a chelsea fan
Really Pained... pele

coogar:
cesc is a newbie - he cannot lead any revolt at chelsea. if anything, it would be one of the old boys that wasn't a part of the team in mourinho's first stint between 2004-2007.

Could you share any further insight on Jose Mourinho? Is he truly finished and is it just a matter of time before he’s sacked?

My inside knowledge goes only so far. I don’t know if Chelsea will sack Mourinho, only the board knows that.

In fact, at this moment, only owner Roman Abramovich knows that.

So I can only give you my thoughts – in a series of questions and answers – as somebody who has seen this situation before.

What started all this?

Hanging pyhsio Jon Fearn and club doctor Eva Carneiro out to dry in public.

Managers pick on staff and players all the time in order to make a wider point to the squad and remind them who is in charge.

But in this case, Mourinho could not have got it more wrong.

Fearn and Carniero are loved at Chelsea. They are friends of the players because they interact with them on a daily basis and have no agenda other than their well-being. They are neutral territory.

You know how much the kitman is loved at Chelsea, don’t you? The players love him and the fans love him when he appears on “Soccer AM”. This is like that.

Fearn and Carniero are totally respected by the playing staff and Mourinho has made a massive mistake in trying to make his point at the expense of two members of staff who were just doing their job and are seen as an easy touch.

Why did Mourinho need to make a point? His team are champions, after all.

Managers make a point to their squads all the time, usually in the form of a sacrifice from the playing squad.

A successful team usually rests on its laurels unless it is made clear by the man in charge that they are dispensable at any moment.

If this was Sir Alex Ferguson, he may well have sacrificed a squad player for the sake of it.

Who knows? If Mourinho had landed Everton centre back John Stones – and he must have thought that he had – maybe that sacrifice would have been John Terry warming the bench for the rest of the season.

Mourinho has tried to follow that through but suspensions and loss of form has meant that he’s needed to play Terry.

So that particular sacrifice looks half-arsed now. It undermines him in the minds of the players…

Is that it?

Since that moment, Mourinho’s ego has been hurt and has demanded that he reinstate the prescene that he had before.

His ego is why he didn’t apologise, when he most certainly should have.

What has happened since has been the total and utter abandonment of Mourinho and his philosophy by the players.

Mourinho is bang to rights and the players know it, so they are now trying to make their point on the pitch.

I have it on the best authority possible that the players have told the manager that they hate the way they play.

They hate the way they have to sit back against inferior opposition; they hate the way they aren’t allowed to express themselves.

I’m told that Cesc Fabregas is the leader of that mini-revolt. And as a player, you do things like this when you know you are in the right.

You try your luck. Why not?

It’s your way of saying to the manager: “You can either listen to us, and give the go ahead to change and give us what we want, or we’ll keep serving you up the same old shit and embarrass you.”

Is there anything else that we should take into account before we wave goodbye to Jose?

There certainly is. For starters, Chelsea have the best manager in the world; nobody in the game disputes that.

And despite this crisis, Abramovich would be loath to lose him because Mourinho will simply walk into one of the world’s top jobs with a Russian cheque in his pocket.

I know Abramovich has all the money in the world but he has made a point of trying to cooperate with Financial Fair Play (FFP) in recent years and the spendthrift days of his early tenure have waned.

The compensation fee that Chelsea would have to pay Mourinho is rumoured to be £30-£40 million, possibly tipping them over the FFP limit.

What is likely to happen?

If you want my honest opinion, I think that you haven’t seen Mourinho at even a tenth of his anger.

He is hurting from the fact that the players who he put together are revolting too publicly.

If he has that Ferguson streak in him, and if Abramovich allows, I think you will see the most ruthless culling of Chelsea’s squad in at least five years, with fresh talent coming in.

I think that the Chelsea board have written off this campaign and have accepted that they will start again next season.

As long as Mourinho qualifies Chelsea for the Champions League, I believe that he will keep his job and that next season will be very different.

raumdeuter:




fabregas said maybe outside influence definitely not dressing room people

fabregas knew Jose wields so much power in Chelsea and he is a fan/player favourite.

how much clout does Fabregas really have in the team? he is newer than most

In Chelsea play he surely is an important player on the field but I doubt off it.

Martial, Douglas Costa, neymar, might be one of the key players in their club on the field but when it comes to dressing room they would still answer "Yes sir" to dem seniors, It goes beyond skill or one "ege ishana".

I doubt he is more important in the dressing room than Costa, hazard, Willian, Terry, Cahill Ivanovic or Matic Of those I listed he is the newest, one of the youngest too

Its like at Bayern stating that lewandoski is leading a revolt where Lahm, Robben, Muller Ribery, neuer, boateng are there. Or Suarez is leading Messi, Busquets, Alves, Iniesta, pique to revolt

Fabregas simply doesnt have that clout in the Chelsea dressing room and Mourinho has too much of a hold on the players than for one Fabregas to lead a mutiny. And its not like he has achieved a lot in his playing career like a Pirlo Alonso, Xavi Schweinsteiger or Lampard

Look at the players who have tried in the past and their status in the team Terry, Drogba lampard, Guti, Casilass not one small rat

Nihilist:
Jose isn't helping matters with his latest statement either...

First he says:

"It's a sad accusation because you are talking about one player, or more. You are accusing them of dishonesty."

"If I accuse you of being dishonest I think you would be very upset and would take legal action. I think it's a question for the players, not me."

Is he challenging Fab to directly attack the source of these rumours? Btw the source is thesecretfootballer.[/i]

Then he says:
"Yes I know (what the problem is). I'll be here for a long time. It's a combination of factors."

"[b]Some of them I don't want to touch them but yes I know. I don't want to blame social or political problems."

"They are football problems."

But if they are football problems, why would you not want to touch them?

Detective nihilist continues to snoop...

lordfalcao:
Mikel is a senior to fabregas, even in the dressing room Mikel's opinion should come first

SIRcumalot:

I hear
Better pray somebody who shall remain nameless never kill Mikel,Ramires and Emenalo after wednesdays match.

Nihilist:


You missed my entire point.

I'm saying the problem isn't even a football related one because there are snakes, saboteurs, 5th columnists and all other enemies from within trying to bring the club down to prove a point.

Article after Article after Article in the press hinting at that awful reality. Not everything you read in the papersis the truth, but not every thing is a lie either.

I repeat that this is NOT a tactical problem or a problem of personnel.

No, we have a vermin problem. An issue with snakes. Slow gas leaks. Enemies within.

Vivalavida99:


Go Mark my words somewhere the drama will be over on Saturday, from that day onwards, Chelsea are going to find their form. They will be unbeaten throughout 2015.

KTBFFH !!!

AdeLaNa1:
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Chelsea

Mourinholic:

Talking about Chelsea when your team is on the verge of getting knocked out....
#obsession

Grundig:

This should be an exception

Chelseafan1:


Lol...oniranu oshi....Doumbia and Musa will show u pepper tonyt, una go wail for dt una thread tonyt when Rooney and Gaal do their usual things

Chelseafan1:


They are reserving the win for today, to shut u up before ur home fans

AdeLaNa1:

Chelseafan1:


Lol...they were too shitty tonyt, Doumbia didn't start.
Man utd should have killed them.

AdeLaNa1:
No thanks to Rooney. That oloshi dat calls himsef our captain.


Anyways Chelsea to win tomorrow. EPL teams need to turn up

hariorh:
For all those Hazard fans