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djdoxxx:
I Tire Ooo...I Wonder How Someone Derives Pleasure In Being Daft! Not Even One Christian Has Been Able To Validly Argue Here On Nl...And That's Why It Surprises Me How And Why They Continue To Wallow In Their Mediocrity...Shame!!

Ok I've heard ... oya name the atheists' countries who are ranked top 10 in the world ... lmaooooooo .

KingEbukasBlog:
lwkmd ... check out the top 100 richest on forbes list and point out how many atheists are there . "God has nothing to do with wealth" is an assertion . Carlos and Bill are catholics . Which one is non practicing catholic ? Do you live in his house ? You are desperately making false claims . Deal with it God exists .

Bill Gates, Carlos Slim, Warren Buffet, Larry Elision all these are the top 4 and they are either agnostic or atheists.

Bill Gates does not believe in any God, he has always maintained that he is an agnostic. He now evasive when it comes to the God question unlike before when he clearly stated that religion doesn't really make much sense. He has always maintained that he doesn't know if a God exist or not but he understands why people believe in God and it makes sense to believe in God.

In his last interview with the Rolling Stone Magazine in 2014 this was what he said:

Do you believe in God?

"I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill. But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know."

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bill-gates-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140313?page=5


As for Carlos Slim he has always maintained that he has stopped going church since after his wife died. He is a non practicing Catholic. Those that know him say he is non religious.

" Slim doesn’t seem to be too outwardly religious, and some report him as not very devout.2 His faith isn’t something he talks much about–or at all, really.

But in the end, Slim is a man with a mind for business and numbers, and head-in-the-clouds religion and spirituality doesn’t seem to be of much concern to him.

http://hollowverse.com/carlos-slim/

God has nothing to do with wealth, because people of all religions and those with no religions at all have many amonst them that are rich. No evidence to show that christians that sow seed, pay tithes and offer money to the christian God are richer than those that don't give or offer money to the christian God.

Did you see how you pointed out Dangote as a muslim and ridiculed tithing and the rest . Dalaman the devoted muslim

My point is that paying tithe or sowing seed to Yahweh has nothing to do with wealth because the richest person in Nigeria does not tithe or sow any seed in any church. He is a muslim and if you put all the wealth of all the major prosperity preaching pastors together it won't amount to half of what he has. God has nothing to do with wealth. No evidence to show for that at all.

Refrain from pouring your frustration here . No one cares

The bold text ode

What are you saying my man?

Lmao ... Dalaman the devoted muslim . Will you go to the mosque tomorrow ?

No I will go to Shango shrine tomorrow.

dalaman:
Many people don't give anything to any God but they own and remain some of the most successful business owners in the world today. God has nothing to do with money or how successful a person or a group of persons will be that is a fact.

Look here dalaman dullard, you were never a christian, you know absolutely nothing about christianity.
Riches is good but its not synonymous to godliness, anyone can be rich. As long as this earth remains

As long as the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.- Gen 8:22

Whatever you sow, you reap, positively or negatively, moneywise or anything. Its the system. it has nothing to do with knowing God. If a satanist plants a seed, it will grow. its the same with investing money.

Nowhere in the bible did God say unbelievers wont be rich, maybe throughout your years of false christianity you never came accross this;

He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. - Matt 5:45

The devil tempted Jesus with the riches of the world, oh yes he has power over the riches of the earth and answers only to God. His temporary control started when our first parents swore their alleigance to the devil.

We demand our godly riches due to a greater authority and dominion in us through Christ. Others have wealth which by default is from contrary sources.


This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have GOOD SUCCESS.- Josh 1:8

The bible specifically classifies the type of success. It seems to me that there is such a thing as BAD SUCCESS.
Success is not success in Gods defination.If you choose not to believe God, by default you have sided with evil. satan gives, God gives, you choose.

These are basics. You were never a christian, if you ever were, then you knew nothing about it. You were just following blindly, i guess its d same for your newly found belief.

dalaman:
Bill Gates, Carlos Slim, Warren Buffet, Larry Elision all these are the top 4 and they are either agnostic or atheists.

Bill Gates does not believe in any God, he has always maintained that he is an agnostic. He now evasive when it comes to the God question unlike before when he clearly stated that religion doesn't really make much sense. He has always maintained that he doesn't know if a God exist or not but he understands why people believe in God and it makes sense to believe in God.

In his last interview with the Rolling Stone Magazine in 2014 this was what he said:

Do you believe in God?

"I agree with people like Richard Dawkins that mankind felt the need for creation myths. Before we really began to understand disease and the weather and things like that, we sought false explanations for them. Now science has filled in some of the realm – not all – that religion used to fill. But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know."

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bill-gates-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140313?page=5


As for Carlos Slim he has always maintained that he has stopped going church since after his wife died. He is a non practicing Catholic. Those that know him say he is non religious.

" Slim doesn’t seem to be too outwardly religious, and some report him as not very devout.2 His faith isn’t something he talks much about–or at all, really.

But in the end, Slim is a man with a mind for business and numbers, and head-in-the-clouds religion and spirituality doesn’t seem to be of much concern to him.

http://hollowverse.com/carlos-slim/

God has nothing to do with wealth, because people of all religions and those with no religions at all have many amonst them that are rich. No evidence to show that christians that sow seed, pay tithes and offer money to the christian God are richer than those that don't give or offer money to the christian God.



My point is that paying tithe or sowing seed to Yahweh has nothing to do with wealth because the richest person in Nigeria does not tithe or sow any seed in any church. He is a muslim and if you put all the wealth of all the major prosperity preaching pastors together it won't amount to half of what he has. God has nothing to do with wealth. No evidence to show for that at all.





What are you saying my man?





No I will go to Shango shrine tomorrow.

Sometimes, it seems to me that this guy don't read most arguments and comebacks from atheists in the section especially those brilliant replies to him. What's the meaning of asking whether you will go to mosque tomorrow. Even if that's meant to be a joke, it is a silly one. The guy never seize waw me.

It is funny how some of my fellow christians here have turned to trolls.

The fact remains that religion can be used for good or bad.


The Pharisees were religious, weren't they?

Even Martin Luther King noted that the bible he uses to preach human rights was also the same bible that was used to enslave blacks.



What really matters is what how one uses his faith or belief.


I am saying this because even as a christian, I cannot in good faith support the unnecessary prosperity focused and materialistic extravagance shown by some churches.

Thank you for this response! Wow. I was wondering if a Christian would at some point deplore the reflexively hostile attitudes of some of the Christians on this thread.

@KingEbukasBlog: You particularly are a relentless & unrepentant troll in this religion section. Your attitude against non-theists is consistently repulsive and stands opposite to all Jesus stood for. The tenor of almost all your responses is needlessly belligerent, childish, and ill-willed. I was once Christian, and your attitude is akin to that of the Pharisee who was quick to evoke the letter of the law but never imbibing the spirit of the law. My greatest wish for you is for you to become a more amiable person, who embodies the best of the historical character of Jesus.

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is funny how some of my fellow christians here have turned to trolls.

The fact remains that religion can be used for good or bad.


The Pharisees were religious, weren't they?

Even Martin Luther King noted that the bible he uses to preach human rights was also the same bible that was used to enslave blacks.



What really matters is what how one uses his faith or belief.


I am saying this because even as a christian, I cannot in good faith support the unnecessary prosperity focused and materialistic extravagance shown by some churches.

Antiparticle:
Thank you for this response! Wow. I was wondering if a Christian would at some point deplore the reflexively hostile attitudes of some of the Christians on this thread.

@KingEbukasBlog: You particularly are a relentless & unrepentant troll in this religion section. Your attitude against non-theists is consistently repulsive and stands opposite to all Jesus stood for. The tenor of almost all your responses is needlessly belligerent, childish, and ill-willed. I was once Christian, and your attitude is akin to that of the Pharisee who was quick to evoke the letter of the law but never imbibing the spirit of the law. My greatest wish for you is for you to become a more amiable person, who embodies the best of the historical character of Jesus.

You didn't see frank317 , dalaman and djdoxxx ... ba ? Please stop the pretence and go back to sleep

Thanks

Everyone knows who the troll is

menesheh:
Sometimes, it seems to me that this guy don't read most arguments and comebacks from atheists in the section especially those brilliant replies to him. What's the meaning of asking whether you will go to mosque tomorrow. Even if that's meant to be a joke, it is a silly one. The guy never seize waw me.

What brilliant replies ? By who exactly ? I'm here to have fun and not to impress anyone . Dalaman does not make any sense to me that's why I fool around with him

But when your time comes , you'll have your own share . Trust me you will

There you go, deflecting responsibility.
I pointed you out because almost all your responses (to my posts and almost all others with opposite opinions as you) are reflexively vile without an attempt to carefully evaluate the counterparty's argument. This is the definition of trolling. Often times I have been tempted to respond to you in a similarly vile manner, but then I'd just be joining you in the mud.

If you are going to defend yourself, do so. But don't come out and defend yourself by deflecting. But then again, this is not a court of law, so no need to defend yourself. Just reread the last paragraph of my previous post again (and @AllNaijaBlogger's post) so it sinks in.

Your presence on this thread would be infinitely valuable if you responded substantively to the arguments of the non-theists on this thread instead of reflexively throwing mud. Perhaps maybe you'd convince a non-theist to become Christian; your current attitude does the exact opposite. I suppose since you are Christian this observation should cause you to self-reflect and re-evaluate your approach. I hope it does.

My two cents.

KingEbukasBlog:
You didn't see frank317 , dalaman and djdoxxx ... ba ? Please stop the pretence and go back to sleep

Thanks

AllNaijaBlogger:
Everyone knows who the troll is

You are an ass-licker . Yes you ! What kind sanctimonious comments are you making here ? Can't you read the nonsense Dalaman , frank317 are posting . Are you trying to win their favour by obsequiously backing them ? You do this same ass-licking in every single thread where atheists and religious people are arguing .

Look at what the Islamic extremists are doing over there in the North . Crippling the economy of these states and rendering millions homeless .
According to wikipedia:

2.3 million people have been displaced by the conflict since May 2013. 250,000 have left Nigeria and fled into Cameroon, Chad or Niger.[20] Boko Haram has killed more than 17,000 people since 2009, including over 10,000 in 2014. The group have carried out mass abductions including the kidnapping of 276 schoolgirls from Chibok in April 2011.

Gang raping of young girls and pregnant women . Forcing young girls with potential into marriages in foreign countries and being a complete menace to the good people of Nigeria . Do you know how much the government has spent on combating these terrorists ? Do you know ?? Can you count the number of good soldiers who have laid their lives down for this country ?

Now tell me , what are the Islamic leaders doing to mitigate the damage already done . Dialogue ? No . Provide funds for IDP camps ? No . Publicly condemn these acts ? No

And a complete pillock now opened a thread to focus on 2 or 3 very wealthy pastors and blame them for Nigeria's current situation . Dont just vex me now . and @Antiparticle please dont mention me if you don't have anything reasonable to say . If you are concerned about Nigeria's situation storm the Islamic section and engage them

winner01:
Look here dalaman dullard, you were never a christian, you know absolutely nothing about christianity.
Riches is good but its not synonymous to godliness, anyone can be rich. As long as this earth remains

Tell that to KingEbukasblog and many other christians who feel other wise. You see the bible also says other wise in some parts. The bible was written by different people who have very different ideas of who God is and how God acts, most of the view and imagine God differently that is why the bible is filled with contradictions, it says one thing in one place and then say the direct opposite in another place. There are many places where God promises wealth only to those that believe in him and destruction to those that do not believe in him. It is all there in that book of contradiction called the bible, that is why on every issue you will find christians on opposing sides all using the bible and quoting verses to justify their positions. There are places in the bible where it specifically says that the unbelievers and the wicked will have their wealth destroyed. But the reality we see around says the bible or who ever wrote it doesn't know what he is talking about.

But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off. Psalm 37:38

The house of the wicked will be destroyed, but the tent of the upright will flourish. Proverbs 14:11

Because they do not regard the works of the LORD Nor the deeds of His hands, He will tear them down and not build them up Psalm 28:5

As long as the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.- Gen 8:22

Whatever you sow, you reap, positively or negatively, moneywise or anything. Its the system. it has nothing to do with knowing God. If a satanist plants a seed, it will grow. its the same with investing money.

False, many people sow good and reap evil, others sow evil and reap good. Many things in this life just seem to happen arbitrarily or haphazardly. Some people plant and it does not even grow for one reason or the other, many invest money in good businesses and it fails, many other invest in bad businesses and it flourishes. That is the reality of this life.

Nowhere in the bible did God say unbelievers wont be rich, maybe throughout your years of false christianity you never came accross this;

He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. - Matt 5:45

But there are places in the bible where God said the wealth of the sinners will dry up or be inherited by the Godly.

"Good people leave an inheritance to their grandchildren, but the sinner's wealth passes to the godly". - Proverbs 13:22

There are many passages in the bible where God promised riches and prosperity to those that believe in him.

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Other verses have God promising believers that they shall always be the head and never the tail in what they do.

The devil tempted Jesus with the riches of the world, oh yes he has power over the riches of the earth and answers only to God. His temporary control started when our first parents swore their alleigance to the devil.

We demand our godly riches due to a greater authority and dominion in us through Christ. Others have wealth which by default is from contrary sources.


This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have GOOD SUCCESS.- Josh 1:8

The bible specifically classifies the type of success. It seems to me that there is such a thing as BAD SUCCESS.
Success is not success in Gods defination.If you choose not to believe God, by default you have sided with evil. satan gives, God gives, you choose.

These are basics. You were never a christian, if you ever were, then you knew nothing about it. You were just following blindly, i guess its d same for your newly found belief.

Your first parents? Can you provide any scientific evidence to show that all of humanity descended from one man and one woman? You are a foolish man, how can a Nigerian be claiming to have descended from two Hebrews? Adam and Eve are Hebrews go and embrace your own Yoruba mythology and stop peddling the mythology and fiction of the ancient Hebrews. Stop talking thrash about success is not success in God's definition, your God has no definition, Your God are the bible writers, they are your God because what ever they wrote is what you accept hook line and sinker, you have no God but dead ancient men who wrote the bible. When you show me anything that your God wrote himself then I will begin to take you seriously, until then your God remains the dead men who wrote the bible.

dalaman:
Your first parents? Can you provide any scientific evidence to show that all of humanity descended from one man and one woman? You are a foolish man, how can a Nigerian be claiming to have descended from two Hebrews? Adam and Eve are Hebrews go and embrace your own Yoruba mythology and stop peddling the mythology and fiction of the ancient Hebrews. Stop talking thrash about success is not success in God's definition, your God has no definition, Your God are the bible writers, they are your God because what ever they wrote is what you accept hook line and sinker, you have no God but dead ancient men who wrote the bible. When you show me anything that your God wrote himself then I will begin to take you seriously, until then your God remains the dead men who wrote the bible.

Pained muslim ... you've not yet shown us how the offsprings of a man and a woman cannot in anyway populate this world . The so called aliens that the early men saw where Fallen Angels and they slept with the daughters of men . Adam and Eve were not just the persons involved.

You've not shown us how a single cell could bring about billions of life forms littered on the face of the earth . You've not shown how it is very possible for life to come forth and develop in an overwhelming manner without any creator . You've not yet explained why man has "a bigger better brain " than animals . You've not shown us how humans traced their origin from Nuberu or whatever . You keep making claims and forceful assertions without proof . Dalaman show why life does not need a creator . Show me here

I've told you before that only theorists can assert that God does not exist and if try replicating complexity and intelligence that exist in nature , you'd see that its a precarious assumption .

KingEbukasBlog:
Pained muslim ... you've not yet shown us how the offsprings of a man and a woman cannot in anyway populate this world . The so called aliens that the early men saw where Fallen Angels and they slept with the daughters of men . Adam and Eve were not just the persons involved.

When will you quit acting a fool? Just show how it is scientifically possible for all humans to have descended just from one man and one woman. You said I should show that it is not possible and in the next sentence you are saying that some fallen angles were involved. You don't just seem to accept the mythologies that your God's wrote down, you always want to change what they wrote, where did your Gods write that Angels were involved in populating the earth? Your delusion is getting worse daily.

You've not shown us how a single cell could bring about billions of life forms littered on the face of the earth . You've not shown how it is very possible for life to come forth and develop in an overwhelming manner without any creator . You've not yet explained why man has "a bigger better brain " than animals . You've not shown us how humans traced their origin from Nuberu or whatever . You keep making claims and forceful assertions without proof . Dalaman show why life does not need a creator . Show me here

I don't know how life came about, until a definitive answer is found, I have no claim to make about it. I have never made any claim, you on the other hand believe in the fictitious assertions of some ancient Hebrew men who claim that some elusive imaginary figure created everything in seven days. Please can you explain to us the mechanism the God they imagined spoke the cells into existence using the Hebrew language?

dalaman:
When will you quit acting a fool? Just show how it is scientifically possible for all humans to have descended just from one man and one woman. You said I should show that it is not possible and in the next sentence you are saying that some fallen angles were involved. You don't just seem to accept the mythologies that your God's wrote down, you always want to change what they wrote, where did your Gods write that Angels were involved in populating the earth? Your delusion is getting worse daily.

Genesis 6:4

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown

Can you prove the above is not true ? This is someone who claimed to be a christian and he does not even know this ? . Dalaman you are a muslim , embrace your religion .

I don't know how life came about

I used logic and probability to explain how this statement you keep making is wrong . You don't know how life came about but you are sure a creator is not responsible . It does not make any sense when dealing with uncertainty when it comes to explaining the genesis of life . Are you being deliberately obtuse or what ?

dalaman:
When will you quit acting a fool? Just show how it is scientifically possible for all humans to have descended just from one man and one woman. You said I should show that it is not possible and in the next sentence you are saying that some fallen angles were involved. You don't just seem to accept the mythologies that your God's wrote down, you always want to change what they wrote, where did your Gods write that Angels were involved in populating the earth? Your delusion is getting worse daily.

The first sentence was referring to the descendants of Adam and Even and then the second sentence further elucidated that fallen angels slept with some of these descendants - "daughters of men" - bring forth their kind

winner01:
Dont transfer your agression to others. Remain calm, your positive change is long overdue.
Atheists God-haters actually care about us so much that they find it difficult to stop talking to us about a "non-existent" God. If you are so concerned about us spreading our beliefs to the public, well, This is not the public, this is a religion section where we share out "sh*t" among ourselves. If you dont care about God or religion, you wouldnt be here.
I understand you people are trying to stay relevant by expressing your pain. But dont go about transfering your misfortune to others. Live with your trauma alone.

Eeyah, Pity You Didnt Realise I Was Only Referring To KingEbukablog The King Of Stupidity...It Would Be Detrimental If You Join Him Wallow In His Stupidity...

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is funny how some of my fellow christians here have turned to trolls.

The fact remains that religion can be used for good or bad.


The Pharisees were religious, weren't they?

Even Martin Luther King noted that the bible he uses to preach human rights was also the same bible that was used to enslave blacks.



What really matters is what how one uses his faith or belief.


I am saying this because even as a christian, I cannot in good faith support the unnecessary prosperity focused and materialistic extravagance shown by some churches.

So, A Christian Like You Exist On Here??! Wooow...You Seem To Be Obviously Very Smart Noticing Kingebukablog And Winner01 Are Mere Trolls.

winner01:
Actually If he didnt, you wouldnt be here arguing. I cant be brain-dead disproving the existence of santa simply cos it dosent exist, I cant even devote 5 minutes talking about it and thats it.

I have not hugged the transformer. Dont wish evil on me. The fact that you were raised with evil dosent mean you should wish evil on others. Learn to be positive.

Stoo being foolish. There is God. Have a nice day.

KingEbukasBlog:
Genesis 6:4

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown

Can you prove the above is not true ? This is someone who claimed to be a christian and he does not even know this ? . Dalaman you are a muslim , embrace your religion .

You keep displaying your folly always, when will you stop? According to the biblical story the said giants came down had sex with daughters of men after which God destroyed the earth completely through a flood, leaving only 8 members of the same family about 4200 years ago. Apart from the fact that the global flood is a fictitious myth, can you explain to me how 8 people can populate the earth and fill it to about 7 billion with many different races in just 4200 years.

I used logic and probability to explain how this statement you keep making is wrong . You don't know how life came about but you are sure a creator is not responsible . It does not make any sense when dealing with uncertainty when it comes to explaining the genesis of life . Are you being deliberately obtuse or what ?

The problem with you is your endless lies, I have never stated that a creator is not responsible for the creation of the universe. The question is you do not know if a creator is responsible for the creation of the universe, you just believe, you do not know if it is only one creator or if there are many, you just believe because the people that happen to be your God, the people that wrote the bible said only one creator is responsible, if they said there are many creators you will believe them. Some religions believe that many creators created the universe, can you prove to me that they are wrong and it is only one creator that created the universe? Even if it is only one creator, can you prove to me that it is the God of your religion and not the God of Islam?

dalaman:
You keep displaying your folly always, when will you stop? According to the biblical story the said giants came down had sex with daughters of men after which God destroyed the earth completely through a flood, leaving only 8 members of the same family about 4200 years ago. Apart from the fact that the global flood is a fictitious myth, can you explain to me how 8 people can populate the earth and fill it to about 7 billion with many different races in just 4200 years.

Lol .

A muslim shouldn't be interested in theology . If I should explain it could be considered as heretical . Just know a creator exists and move on with your life .

The problem with you is your endless lies, I have never stated that a creator is not responsible for the creation of the universe.

dalaman:
Your God is a man made idea that is why you as a man must defend it, speak on it's behalf, spread it;s word, build it's temple, explain it to others and on and on, your God lives only in your imaginations and can not do anything on it;s own. It can only act in pages of story books and in your imaginations. Now tell me what the purpose of human existence is. Why are you running away from the question?

dalaman:
Good. The question is you do not know if the universe was created by a single entity or many entities, you just happen to be indoctrinated with the version of a creator which the ancient Hebrews imagine, a creator whom they said crated the sun before the earth, you refuse to accept their creation account as they have stated, you instead decided to modify it. The universe as we know it did not come about as God said he created it inside the bible. If the bible gets the creation of the universe wrong then it;s God did not create the universe simple.

dalaman:
You believe human life was created by an elusive God from sand which is also a non living thing but you somehow feel you are in a better position to mock people who also believe the same trash as you do.

dalaman:
My personal experience has told me that all Gods are man made.

@Dalaman ... you always talk about how God was invented by humans and I've never seen you refute science's abiogenesis evolution and big bang . What are the absurdities in these theories that made you discredit them ?

dalaman:
Tell that to KingEbukasblog and many other christians who feel other wise. You see the bible also says other wise in some parts. The bible was written by different people who have very different ideas of who God is and how God acts, most of the view and imagine God differently that is why the bible is filled with contradictions, it says one thing in one place and then say the direct opposite in another place. There are many places where God promises wealth only to those that believe in him and destruction to those that do not believe in him. It is all there in that book of contradiction called the bible, that is why on every issue you will find christians on opposing sides all using the bible and quoting verses to justify their positions. There are places in the bible where it specifically says that the unbelievers and the wicked will have their wealth destroyed. But the reality we see around says the bible or who ever wrote it doesn't know what he is talking about..

Dullard, once again you prove how under-educated and feeble minded you are. You have a very poor reasoning capability.

But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off. Psalm 37:38
The house of the wicked will be destroyed, but the tent of the upright will flourish. Proverbs 14:11

Because they do not regard the works of the LORD Nor the deeds of His hands, He will tear them down and not build them up Psalm 28:5

All these verses about destruction of the wicked, Did you ever sit down to analyse when and where they will be cut off, Did you ever come to a realisation of the concept of death and destruction. you were a foolish christian if you really ever were.

The devil cometh not, but for
1. to steal,
2. to kill, (notice a stepwise process)
3. and to destroy: (after he has killed)
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10
More abundantly, How. These are questions to be asked not kindergaten questions.

Death and Destruction lie open before the LORD-- how much more do human hearts!- Proverbs 15:11
Proverbs 27:20 too talks about death and destruction. If you were half as diligent to christianity as you presently are to stupid1ty, your life would have changed for the better.

dalaman:
False, many people sow good and reap evil, others sow evil and reap good. Many things in this life just seem to happen arbitrarily or haphazardly. Some people plant and it does not even grow for one reason or the other, many invest money in good businesses and it fails, many other invest in bad businesses and it flourishes. That is the reality of this life.



But there are places in the bible where God said the wealth of the sinners will dry up or be inherited by the Godly.

"Good people leave an inheritance to their grandchildren, but the sinner's wealth passes to the godly". - Proverbs 13:22

There are many passages in the bible where God promised riches and prosperity to those that believe in him.

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Other verses have God promising believers that they shall always be the head and never the tail in what they do.

I remember i clearly typed "You sow, you reap. positively or negatively Are you blind or just stup1d. YOU SOW, YOU REAP
As long as the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.- Gen 8:22

Read through the parable of the sower, You can sow hundreds of seeds and reap NOTHING.
The fact remains. YOU SOW, YOU REAP.
If you brains cant decode this, ask someone who can.


"Good people leave an inheritance to their grandchildren, but the sinner's wealth passes to the godly". - Proverbs 13:22

Can someone help me tell this dolt that unbelievers too have wealth.

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

What is your yard stick for measuring riches and success? Money alone
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest
1.prosper (Visible prosperity)
2.and be in good health(health prosperity,
3.even as thy soul prospereth.(Soul prosperity/salvation) 3John 1:2

Dont be desperate, be calm, and realise that you are a fool.
Read again: He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. - Matt 5:45
He sends rain to who? The most important is soul prosperity/salvation, you reject that, you choose destruction.

dalaman:
Stop talking thrash about success is not success in God's definition, your God has no definition, Your God are the bible writers, they are your God because what ever they wrote is what you accept hook line and sinker, you have no God but dead ancient men who wrote the bible. When you show me anything that your God wrote himself then I will begin to take you seriously, until then your God remains the dead men who wrote the bible.

@bolded, you want me to believe these because.......
You dont believe in God, and you desperately need me not to believe with you. I hope you show the same concern to your parents, siblings and relatives cos if not, it shows you were raised with hate and you hate them back by not exposing them to this wisdomfoolishness.
The "ancient" Bible principles still apply till today, i wonder how ancient men could be so learned, intelligent, posses such wisdom and be vast in philosophy.
I choose to believe their words over yours anytime anyday.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

DeepSight:
Stoo being foolish. There is God. Have a nice day.

You should tell your friends that, just that they are so much addicted to God and religion.

djdoxxx:
Eeyah, Pity You Didnt Realise I Was Only Referring To KingEbukablog The King Of Stupidity...It Would Be Detrimental If You Join Him Wallow In His Stupidity...

stupid1ty is when you
1. go to the sports section.
2. give arguments against sports even though you believe sports is nonsense.
3. call those who try to call you to order pained and foolish.
4. and insist that you are not a reta*d.

Thats what your doin here you fool.

KingEbukasBlog:
@Dalaman ... you always talk about how God was invented by humans and I've never seen you refute science's abiogenesis evolution and big bang . What are the absurdities in these theories that made you discredit them ?

Yes Gods are man made ideas that is why there are different Gods. I do not believe in Evolution because it is also full the supposition of the scientist. Cosmic expansion is true and can be observed. What we don't know for sure is what the universe is. We can only view a tiny part of it. The hubble deep field is the most we have been able to see, yet there is much more to it. So why jump into conclusion one way or the other when you do not fully know the system you are dealing with.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .

A muslim shouldn't be interested in theology . If I should explain it could be considered as heretical . Just know a creator exists and move on with your life .

If you provide evidence for this creator then I will believe. By the way, why are you the one telling me and wanting me to believe this creator? Why doesn't he do it himself? Your God are the people that wrote the bible because when you talk about God you point to what evee it is they wrote down. They are your God and they are all dead.

dalaman:
I don't know how life came about.

Not only how life came about, you sure dont know anything about anything. So what exactly do you want?
You desperately want us not to know with you, right?.

winner01:
Not only how life came about, you sure dont know anything about anything. So what exactly do you want?
You desperately want us not to know with you, right?.

What do you know apart from the mythology and fiction the ancient Hebrew men (who happen yo be your God) wrote? I've asked you many times over to tell me what the purpose of juman life is but you've been unable to do that despite claiming to posses such knowledge.

dalaman:
What do you know apart from the mythology and fiction the ancient Hebrew men (who happen yo be your God) wrote? I've asked you many times over to tell me what the purpose of juman life is but you've been unable to do that despite claiming to posses such knowledge.

You should substantiate your dumb claims first. You think i will take dumb questions seriously.
When you begin to show signs of open-mindedness and a receptive heart, ill consider taking you serious.
For now, keep expressing your rage against God, even though in your view He dosent exist.

winner01:
You should substantiate your dumb claims first. You think i will take dumb questions seriously.
When you begin to show signs of open-mindedness and a receptive heart, ill consider taking you serious.
For now, keep expressing your rage against God, even though in your view He dosent exist.

Which God? The men that wrote the bible? They are all dead that is why you always have to defend and explain away what their myths and imaginations. They people that wrote the bible are the God you believe in.

dalaman:
They are all dead. They people that wrote the bible are the God you believe in.

Okay, ive heard you. Now can you stop trying to persuade me not to know how the world started.
Can you stop trying to persuade me not to believe in God with you.
Can you stop being stup1d