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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:53pm On Nov 06, 2015
mufutau55:
OK. Thanks. I am on the right track.. copying your work from that Ile-Oluji project. I used H Beam bars like the second pic for two tanks.
Thank you.

Hajji M.
There's no basis for comparison. I-section is the way to go. Now, we even have 20 floor buildings in Ikoyi raised with I-section talkless of tank tower.

Sturdy, strong and safe.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:58pm On Nov 06, 2015
Here is one elevated water tank from one of Skimanski posts (site next to his). It seems that the pipes were "hidden" inside the H's. Classy grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:02pm On Nov 06, 2015
brabus:
Setbacks at various NextHome projects in the city.

K-024 - 12m front, 9m left, 4.5m right and back (space between building and the fence). We have minimum of 9m between buildings. On the left side, there's over 20m between building. Average plot price is N40,000 per m2

The Reserve - 12m front, 6m right, 8m back and 3m right. Average plot price is N25m per plot.

10AB - 9m front, 3m on all other sides. Average plot price is 40,000 per m2

Forthright Ibafo - 7.5m front and right, 3m left, 4.5m back. Average plot price is N10m per plot.

I know say city pass city though. And shoes get sizes!!!
It also depends on the architectural plan.

This house seems to be like mine where the primary view is internal to the courtyard and not specifically to the outside.

Also, I love the crafty use of aluminum blinds. It shouldn't take much to use slightly stronger material and end up with a burglary proof. Where some are frozen with inability to respond to and lead the market, people like Skimanski are braving and forging ahead.

Just a thought.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:20pm On Nov 06, 2015
mufutau55:
What other format/type will you recommend? Learning/educative purposes only.
Hajji M.
brabus:
This types (in picture below) I know for 2 floors. But I'll choose the Water Tank Stanchion (2nd pic below) over the galvanized tank tower in multi-floor buildings especially in buildings higher than 8m
However, there are some class of people who will not take "impossible" for an answer. They do everything possible to achieve their dream home. K-024 is one of those.

Here's a detailed roof/tank slab plan for K-024. Things can never go wrong where there's a good plan and the architect is on top of his game.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(op): 7:17pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Stronger and looks much much better.
You know that healthy concern that you have for parapets? I have the same for EWTs, some are downright scary.
My brother, many things scares me nowadays.

Cantilever - I had bad experience...
Well (Water well)
Parapets (Insitu) - too much weight
And the same Water Tanks... (but I have no alternatives for this)

I think one's phobia also increases due to aging... the older we become; the more we don't want to die unnecessary death. smiley

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:19pm On Nov 06, 2015
^^^
grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:25pm On Nov 06, 2015
mufutau55:
My brother, many things scares me nowadays.

Cantilever - I had bad experience...
Well (Water well)
Parapets (Insitu) - too much weight
And the same Water Tanks... (but I have no alternatives for this)

I think one's phobia also increases due to aging... the older we become; the more we don't want to die unnecessary death. smiley

Hajji M.
The age phobia thing is real.

Every single morning that I straddle my motorcycle for my commute to work I silently talk to myself and ask myself why am I doing this when there's a perfectly good, comfortable and safer car in the garage.

Nigerian homeowners, we are the sanitation, security and water companies of our own.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:27pm On Nov 06, 2015
So fellow builders I have a question.

Do you even include any plan to have water and sewer pipes going out to the street in the hopes that there might be connection to city services in the future?

Have we totally given up then?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:32pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
So fellow builders I have a question.

Do you even include any plan to have water and sewer pipes going out to the street in the hopes that there might be connection to city services in the future?

Have we totally given up then?
Where I live.... There is a constant water supply. We don't even have borehole or overhead water tank
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:41pm On Nov 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:
Where I live.... There is a constant water supply. We don't even have borehole or overhead water tank
Wow...very nice, where is this?

I estimate N1million wasted for waste and water supply system angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:41pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
So fellow builders I have a question.

Do you even include any plan to have water and sewer pipes going out to the street in the hopes that there might be connection to city services in the future?

Have we totally given up then?
When we get there, we will figure out how to cross. but until then we go just do the needful........
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:43pm On Nov 06, 2015
3strike:
When we get there, we will figure out how to cross. but until then we go just do the needful........
True but man there will be lots of shyte to dig up.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:47pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
So fellow builders I have a question.

Do you even include any plan to have water and sewer pipes going out to the street in the hopes that there might be connection to city services in the future?

Have we totally given up then?
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for these things to come to pass. Every man is his own republic.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(op): 7:49pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
True but man there will be lots of shyte to dig up.
I am not even sure in my lifetime if we will get there.... all the places I have my properties, there are no running water anyway and no adequate electricity; so what makes you think we even get to that point you are talking about. Not be Naija we dey talk about?
I am not waiting for that o.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:01pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Wow...very nice, where is this?
I estimate N1million wasted for waste and water supply system angry
Suleja Niger state. A town in Niger state close to Abuja
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:06pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
So fellow builders I have a question.

Do you even include any plan to have water and sewer pipes going out to the street in the hopes that there might be connection to city services in the future?

Have we totally given up then?
Private investments in amenities like pipe born water is the future of real estate investment.
Imagine a scenario where there is a water provider in an estate, supply water through metered pipe to every household at a very reasonable price. Capital outlay of borehole, over head tank will be reducedl
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:06pm On Nov 06, 2015
mufutau55:
I am not even sure in my lifetime if we will get there.... all the places I have my properties, there are no running water anyway and no adequate electricity; so what makes you think we even get to that point you are talking about. Not be Naija we dey talk about?
I am not waiting for that o.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:08pm On Nov 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:
Private investments in amenities like pipe born water is the future of real estate investment.
Imagine a scenario where there is a water provider in an estate, supply water through metered pipe to every household at a very reasonable price. Capital outlay of borehole, over head tank will be reducedl
It has never worked. Our mind has been programmed here to reject alternative offerings. No matter how good it looks. I can show you hundreds of estates with all these amenities and yet they have tank over their roofs and boreholes.

It's always like "There's borehole in egun' house, I think I should have mine. Who knows one day this estate thing may fail. I should have a backup plan" And as if they have "eyin oke" the estate water plant will cease to work for 2 weeks.

Some people reading this knew I'm not lying. I've done this for more than 3 nairalanders even in estates where there's strict regulations restricting sinking of well.

I can even show you one of my project that I blogged here, we had to hide the GP tank inside the roof. The excuse was if water fails us, there must be a backup in case visitor needs to use the bathroom.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:09pm On Nov 06, 2015
mufutau55:
I am not even sure in my lifetime if we will get there.... all the places I have my properties, there are no running water anyway and no adequate electricity; so what makes you think we even get to that point you are talking about. Not be Naija we dey talk about?
I am not waiting for that o.

Hajji M.
I'm optimistic we will get there soon.
Central savage system
Pipe born water and domestic cooking gas will be accessible to most home soon
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:11pm On Nov 06, 2015
brabus:
It has never worked. Our mind has been programmed here to reject alternative offerings. I can show you hundreds of estates with all these amenities and yet they have tank over their roofs and boreholes.
May be when people realized how dangerous most of the polluted underground water is.... The they will embrace alternative
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PeoplesArmy: 8:28pm On Nov 06, 2015
brabus:
It has never worked. Our mind has been programmed here to reject alternative offerings. No matter how good it looks. I can show you hundreds of estates with all these amenities and yet they have tank over their roofs and boreholes.

It's always like "There's borehole in egun' house, I think I should have mine. Who knows one day this estate thing may fail. I should have a backup plan" And as if they have "eyin oke" the estate water plant will cease to work for 2 weeks.

Some people reading this knew I'm not lying. I've done this for more than 3 nairalanders even in estates where there's strict regulations restricting sinking of well.

I can even show you one of my project that I blogged here, we had to hide the GP tank inside the roof. The excuse was if water fails us, there must be a backup in case visitor needs to use the bathroom.
That's a single story approach....it is not complete. With what I have read on the thread about Lekki Gardens, any sane person will opt for the borehole and overhead tank rather than pay the price being charged especially if you work for your money, understand the market and can do a back of the envelope cost benefit analysis. Like you would say, think value and not cost....in many estates I have seen, value for central water supply has long gone out through the window.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:31pm On Nov 06, 2015
PeoplesArmy:
That's a single story approach....it is not complete. With what I have read on the thread about Lekki Gardens, any sane person will opt for the borehole and overhead tank rather than pay the price being charged especially if you work for your money, understand the market and can do a back of the envelope cost benefit analysis. Like you would day, think value and not cost....in many estates I have seen, value for central water supply has long gone out through the window.
abdulwastecx, you dey hear am. This is not Niger state o. Welcome to Republic of PeoplesArmy.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PeoplesArmy: 8:32pm On Nov 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:
May be when people realized how dangerous most of the polluted underground water is.... The they will embrace alternative
We know how bad it can be. An additional feature most people have now incorporated is a water treatment plant. In fact most bottled water now are simply water from boreholes that have been treated via these water treatment plant... That's for guys with conscience o. Others don't really bother.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:34pm On Nov 06, 2015
PeoplesArmy:
We know how bad it can be. An additional feature most people have now incorporated is a water treatment plant. In fact most bottled water now are simply water from boreholes that have been treated via these water treatment plant... That's for guys with conscience o. Others don't really bother.
Reverse osmosis will take care of that abdulwastecx.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(op): 8:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
abdulwastecx:
I'm optimistic we will get there soon.
Central savage system
Pipe born water and domestic cooking gas will be accessible to most home soon
I hope so... All young people are optimistic. But we old folks have been waiting many decades for this and it never happens.
There was no power shortages in the 70s, but see now... the whole thing is just going under instead of improving.. God help us.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage:
twinskenny:
nawa for you o. well let me keep quite
I spent years doing this for a living Bro. undecided undecided

I used to run a licensed security outfit, in the Diaspora...and l am also "personally" licensed to carry out such duties, not to mention my academic pedigree.

But l am not saying this directly at you,....... just sharing knowledge, which is the essence of this thread.

No need to "feel" one-kin, we are all one.


Cheers.



Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 9:36pm On Nov 06, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Those 25 milla per plot people are not on Nairaland anyways grin

The assumption that we all bought postage stamp sized plot in overpriced slums and cram it full of buildings is the problem.
Sorry Sir!

I have two of these (one is actually valued at 35Milla right now and l have been holding it for about 15years now when l bought it way cheap back then grin ) .. in Eti-Osa LGA.

I am still looking forward to the day lt will be ver, very convenient with shuttling between the Area and the extreme Mainland (Ikeja) where l have business.

But will l waste the land in building such lengthy setbacks and "security zones".... when l have better and more economic alternatives? Hell-No!


Like l said, what we do most times is "conditioned" by our "condition"

we are here to learn, irrespective of who we are in real life.
You will be surprised whose user i.d l discovered here on Nairaland, by accident




Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:06pm On Nov 06, 2015
lastpage:
we are here to learn, irrespective of who we are in real life.

Lastpage!
But most importantly, at least in my own opinion, is why we have to be tolerant of each other and our idea of what our homestead is to each one of us.

Brabus loves his setback and works for him, you won't waste any square foot of your prime land and I won't have to worry about the footprint of an EWT in my little village land.

Just a thought of course.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody:
Let's talk horticulture.

So the layout of the compound is clear now that I have the substructure of the main house, soakaways, etc completed and it's time to plant trees so that they can mature as the build continues.

I would like recommendations for exotic, shady trees (I will have one or two palm trees but not really a fan).

Can I get motivational pictures of trees that grown well in Southern Nigeria?

Thanks.

1) Will Japanese Maple grown in Nigeria?

2) I want one giant tree that will ground my compound, what's a good and safe one?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick(m): 12:28am On Nov 07, 2015
EgunMogaji:
Let's talk horticulture.

So the layout of the compound is clear now that I have the substructure of the main house, soakaways, etc completed and it's time to plant trees so that they can mature as the build continues.

I would like recommendations for exotic, shady trees (I will have one or two palm trees but not really a fan).

Can I get motivational pictures of trees that grown well in Southern Nigeria?

Thanks.

1) Will Japanese Maple grown in Nigeria?

2) I want one giant tree that will ground my compound, what's a good and safe one?
Lol

See wetin obodo oyinbo dey do ... lol
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:38am On Nov 07, 2015
mavverick:
Lol

See wetin obodo oyinbo dey do ... lol
Na so my brother grin

But if you think back to old days in the village, na for under tree our elders dey sidown play games cheesy

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m):
EgunMogaji:
Let's talk horticulture.

So the layout of the compound is clear now that I have the substructure of the main house, soakaways, etc completed and it's time to plant trees so that they can mature as the build continues.

I would like recommendations for exotic, shady trees (I will have one or two palm trees but not really a fan).

Can I get motivational pictures of trees that grown well in Southern Nigeria?

Thanks.

1) Will Japanese Maple grown in Nigeria?

2) I want one giant tree that will ground my compound, what's a good and safe one?
I did moringa and golden palm and one other beautiful tree that I can't remember it's name. But I lost interest because it ain't easy at all raising them.

Here are just some before, between and after pics.

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