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Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Phame: 5:05pm On Nov 07, 2015
sunnyb0b0:
Let's assume the process of the PDP primaries was flawed, did Aisha ask the tribunal to disqualify Ishaku based on that reason? Did she present the validity of the PDP candidate as reason for her yo be declared winner on initiating the action?
have you gone through the case she filed to know this wasn't part of it?
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by agabusta: 5:06pm On Nov 07, 2015
sunnyb0b0:
Let's assume the process of the PDP primaries was flawed, did Aisha ask the tribunal to disqualify Ishaku based on that reason? Did she present the validity of the PDP candidate as reason for her yo be declared winner on initiating the action?
When cases are filed in court, lawyers are very cunny.

They usually seek for a plethora of reliefs. The court usually considers their request one at a time.

This definitely must have been one of the reliefs sought by the APC in the case.

Wike also tried to do that in the Rivers Tribunal but he was unable to substantially prove that.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by egift(op): 5:09pm On Nov 07, 2015
lalasticlala this is good for HQ.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 5:14pm On Nov 07, 2015
sunnyb0b0:
Your assertion is flawed and does not hold water. It is the right of a party to present a candidate for any given election, any objection to the process of the primaries should be challenged in court. The Taraba tribunal judgement cannot stand and shall be upturned.
according to ur own law, laff wan kill me
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by DrownedFish: 5:21pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
What do you think her Lawyers were doing? Listen by holding the primaries in Abuja instead of Jalingo means it is illegal. No it does not matter who emerged 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th in that Primary.

If it held in Jalingo and the winner was not the candidate filled, we would have had an Amaechi 2.0 in our hands. But the issue here is that a Primary that should hold in Jalingo was hijacked to Abuja. So no matter who had emerged, the person would still be disqualified.
Insecurity was sited as a reason to hold the primaries in ABJ just as Insecurity was sited as the reas Rivers and Akwa ibom Tribunals were held in Abj
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by egift(op): 5:27pm On Nov 07, 2015
DrownedFish:
Insecurity was sited as a reason to hold the primaries in ABJ just as Insecurity was sited as the reas Rivers and Akwa ibom Tribunals were held in Abj
You can join PDP are they sleep in court. It is mama taraba all the way.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 5:30pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
People give Bribe in Nigeria even when they are right because they are impatient.

My take is that the legal process will take it course, when the chips are down, it is Mama Taraba all the Way! PDP cannot re-write the history of how they chose their candidate. I will not be surprised is aggrieved PDP members gave her details of this loophole.

Like in Terminator, killing Serah Conner will mean the Commander will not exist in future. Now exposing the illegality that brought in the PDP candidate means no need to waste time counting the votes or seeking a Re-Run grin grin grin grin grin
But the Benue elections that Apc won even without conducting a primary election was Valid becos it is Apc,while d taraba own dat Pdp won was nullified because d primary was done in Abuja instead of Taraba?so much for change!
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by LORDDICE(m): 5:34pm On Nov 07, 2015
Phame:
your family members were all born on the same day?
yep, 7th november
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 5:36pm On Nov 07, 2015
nameo:
This explanation, if that is what we should properly call it, would means that the choice of the MAJORITY of Tarabans were NOT taken into account over the crucial matter of whom will rule over them in a DEMOCRACY!!! How can anybody justify declaring the votes of majority of voters in an election as "invalid" based on some technicality on the part of one the actors in said election. What then is the real meaning of DISENFRANCHISEMENT?

And over what really? That one if the parties hekd its primaries in Abuja instead of Jalingo when ironically the same tribunal that gave judgement end it's own sitting in that same Abuja instead of Jalingo!!

This doesn't look fair at all. But there again this is about the law and facts, and we hopefully will have to wait for the Lawyers to argue all these all the way to the Supreme Court.
i agree with u on d part of how d majority vote is be throw out, but u are wrong on where d primary should be held, can u write exam in vc's office? But u can mark d exam in vc's office for security reasons, d same way u cannot conduct election in Cameroon but u can settle d matter in un court.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Montaque(m): 5:36pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
Due to some folks not understanding what Taraba Governorship Election Tribunal meant, here it is in a simple term:

Explaining Invalid Votes
In any given Election, any voter that thumbprints erroneously, inappropriately or for parties that did not file in candidates for the election - all such votes are regarded Invalid Votes.

PDP Got Invalid Votes In Taraba
In the eyes of the Law, PDP had no Candidate in that election - Why? Because the process they used in selecting a candidate to represent the party was flaw. As Jonathan and his crew tried so hard to use the PDP Governorship Tickets in attracting favours, loyalty and support across Nigeria, in order to execute that of Taraba, the PDP primaries was moved to Abuja to ensure the pre-determined outcome came to pass. And this contravenes the law.

The Result:

So what that mean is that all the voters that thumbprint for PDP on the ballot paper in the Governorship election were just wasting their time and energy. By law, their votes were Invalid Votes (or put it this way - Wasted Votes).


So anyone that wants to hijack the electoral process in future can think twice. Kudos Mama Taraba for having a great legal team that saw this loophole.

God bless Nigeria.

cc: lalasticlala
The above notwithstanding does not empower the Tribunal to declare the runner up as the winner.
it's clearly against the electoral Act.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by zicoraads: 5:37pm On Nov 07, 2015
Ballmer:
You are taken to the cleaners daily on every side of the divide you support. Why not give yourself a break n stop being a nuisance. Any one with a functional brain understand the election is so close in Taraba even with PDP pulling all its rigging machinery to good use.

The PDP does not have that edge anymore, at least your brain should decipher another election under a Buhari your like claims he's a bigot, appointed his relative as INEC chairperson would be too close to call. Yet you gave victory to PDP without blinking an eyelid.

Do you just come on NL to tell your fantasy or desire ? Why can't you be reasonable with your submissions ? PDP might win in a rerun which I doubt but trust me it would never be a home run. The odds is well stacked against them on this one. Taraba going APC is surer than Akwa Ibom or Rivers doing that.
See people making assertions they know nothing about. Who told you Taraba going to APC is surer than AKS and Rivers?

Read my Lips...ORDER A RERUN and the DARIUS of the PDP will take AISHA of the APC to the cleaners AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

Are you even in Taraba or from Taraba?
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by egift(op): 5:40pm On Nov 07, 2015
Montaque:
The above notwithstanding does not empower the Tribunal to declare the runner up as the winner.
it's clearly against the electoral Act.
PDP coursed its troubles. It is too late to cry. Their best chance is to argue if or not the tribunal can nullify election when a candidate's emergence is flawed. Next time PDP will slow down on ojoro.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 5:41pm On Nov 07, 2015
HIGHESTPOPORI:
But the Benue elections that Apc won even without conducting a primary election was Valid becos it is Apc,while d taraba own dat Pdp won was nullified because d primary was done in Abuja instead of Taraba?so much for change!
did apc conduct their state primary election in abuja? Dis same judgement would have await ribadu, if he had won adamawa
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 5:43pm On Nov 07, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
did apc conduct their state primary election in abuja? Dis same judgement would have await ribadu, if he had won adamawa
Apc did not conduct any primary election in Benue state at all which is against the electoral act!
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 5:46pm On Nov 07, 2015
zicoraads:
See people making assertions they know nothing about. Who told you Taraba going to APC is surer than AKS and Rivers?

Read my Lips...ORDER A RERUN and the DARIUS of the PDP will take AISHA of the APC to the cleaners AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

Are you even in Taraba or from Taraba?
are u d only one that wil vote in taraba
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 5:53pm On Nov 07, 2015
HIGHESTPOPORI:
Apc did not conduct any primary election in Benue state at all which is against the electoral act!
that is what we call consensus, or did anyone disagree with d outcome, d person can align with d opposition to remove d gov, so simple
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by egift(op): 5:59pm On Nov 07, 2015
HIGHESTPOPORI:
Apc did not conduct any primary election in Benue state at all which is against the electoral act!
Tell PDP to go to Court and sleep there. Stop crying wolf where there is none.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 6:02pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
Tell PDP to go to Court and sleep there. Stop crying wolf where there is none.
And who told you PDP didn't go to court?stop been foolish because of d stipends u get from ur paymasters
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Montaque(m): 6:10pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
PDP coursed its troubles. It is too late to cry. Their best chance is to argue if or not the tribunal can nullify election when a candidate's emergence is flawed. Next time PDP will slow down on ojoro.
you still don't get me.
read my post again.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by IbokUtoroh(m): 6:21pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
People give Bribe in Nigeria even when they are right because they are impatient.

My take is that the legal process will take it course, when the chips are down, it is Mama Taraba all the Way! PDP cannot re-write the history of how they chose their candidate. I will not be surprised is aggrieved PDP members gave her details of this loophole.

Like in Terminator, killing Serah Conner will mean the Commander will not exist in future. Now exposing the illegality that brought in the PDP candidate means no need to waste time counting the votes or seeking a Re-Run grin grin grin grin grin
how did samuel ortom of benue got his guber ticket?
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by HzRF(m): 6:21pm On Nov 07, 2015
egift:
Due to some folks not understanding what Taraba Governorship Election Tribunal meant, here it is in a simple term:

Explaining Invalid Votes
In any given Election, any voter that thumbprints erroneously, inappropriately or for parties that did not file in candidates for the election - all such votes are regarded Invalid Votes.

PDP Got Invalid Votes In Taraba
In the eyes of the Law, PDP had no Candidate in that election - Why? Because the process they used in selecting a candidate to represent the party was flaw. As Jonathan and his crew tried so hard to use the PDP Governorship Tickets in attracting favours, loyalty and support across Nigeria, in order to execute that of Taraba, the PDP primaries was moved to Abuja to ensure the pre-determined outcome came to pass. And this contravenes the law.

The Result:
So what that mean is that all the voters that thumbprint for PDP on the ballot paper in the Governorship election were just wasting their time and energy. By law, their votes were Invalid Votes (or put it this way - Wasted Votes).

So anyone that wants to hijack the electoral process in future can think twice. Kudos Mama Taraba for having a great legal team that saw this loophole.

God bless Nigeria.

cc: lalasticlala
Career praise singer

Ur ashawo mama Taraba didn't approach the Court base on the primary election
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Jesusloveyou: 6:21pm On Nov 07, 2015
DrownedFish:
Insecurity was sited as a reason to hold the primaries in ABJ just as Insecurity was sited as the reas Rivers and Akwa ibom Tribunals were held in Abj
for security reason why not conduct d general election in Cameroon since boko haram even threaten us not to conduct d election
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by freshcvvs: 6:30pm On Nov 07, 2015
chukwudi44:
It is not about APC or PDP with Taraba dear, it is all about religion!! Putting a muslim as Governor would set the state on fire.
What kind of statement is this? is Election not about religion and can you prove that only Christians live in Taraba?

Have we not had both Muslims and Christians as governors in states like Kaduna, Nassarawa, Niger, Adamawa e.t.c?
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Okanokan(m): 6:47pm On Nov 07, 2015
Is it inter party or intra party. And who is complaining? Is it Pdp or Apc, and why will Apc be interested in the internal affair of Pdp and i thought issues of primaries are suppose to be handled by regular courts. I want to believe this judgement will not stand thorough judicial scrutiny because Apc and the Tribunal have become meddlesome interloppers or maybe there is a new principle of law not known to the public. We wish the Apc well.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by ValerianSteel(m): 9:46pm On Nov 07, 2015
drss:
First muslim female governor in a christian dominated state! Something way go NEVER HAPPEN for muslim dominated states in d north even if na deputy governor. APC setting d zoo backwards since may 29.
Anyway, anything way go collapse d zoo is welcome. Abeg buari dullaard continu d dictatorship make everybody waka commot for d zoo.
I think it's time we move from all these bigotry.Nigerian Christians voted for a supposedly Islamic bigot but it's been otherwise,the so called Islami bigot is championing the change this country truly needs and I know with time we would not be disappointed at our votes.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by ayindejimmy(m): 10:53pm On Nov 07, 2015
nameo:
This explanation, if that is what we should properly call it, would mean that the choice of the MAJORITY of Tarabans were NOT taken into account over the crucial matter of whom will rule over them in a DEMOCRACY!!! How can anyone justify declaring the votes of majority of voters in an election as "invalid" based on some technicality on the part of one the actors in the said election. What then is the real meaning of DISENFRANCHISEMENT?

And over what really? That one of the parties held its primaries in Abuja instead of Jalingo when ironically the same tribunal that gave judgement also had it's own sitting in that same Abuja instead of Jalingo!!

This doesn't look fair at all. But then again this is about the law and facts, and we all wud hopefully have to wait for the Lawyers and experts to argue all these all the way to the Supreme Court. Our jurisprudence would be the better for it I would guess.
What sauce for the goose is not sauce for the gander in this case

The tribunal has legal backing to seat anywhere for security reasons. The question is, does PDP have legal right to hold the state's primary outside Taraba?
Answering that question will be the determining factor of the case
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by egift(op): 10:58pm On Nov 07, 2015
ayindejimmy:
Two wrongs do not make right.
The tribunal has legal backing to seat anywhere for security reasons. The question is, does PDP have legal right to hold the state's primary outside Taraba?
Answering that question will be the determining factor of the case
Gbam!!!
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Ballmer: 3:07am On Nov 08, 2015
zicoraads:
See people making assertions they know nothing about. Who told you Taraba going to APC is surer than AKS and Rivers?

Read my Lips...ORDER A RERUN and the DARIUS of the PDP will take AISHA of the APC to the cleaners AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

Are you even in Taraba or from Taraba?
Can you please show me the last governorship election result ? If at all, how come the woman came so close ? Did she not contest her senatorial seat against a Christian and won ? Again n again my foot.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by zicoraads: 8:07am On Nov 08, 2015
Ballmer:
Can you please show me the last governorship election result ? If at all, how come the woman came so close ? Did she not contest her senatorial seat against a Christian and won ? Again n again my foot.
And he stylishly side stepped the question. Are you from Taraba state? Or, where in Taraba do you stay?

Aisha can only win in her zone, Taraba-north. And that zone alone can never make her the governor. That zone is dominated by Muslims. The rest of the state by Christians. Stop spewing gibberish about things you know nothing about. You cannot stay where ever you are and claim to know more about a state you have probably never been to nor hail from.

If the tribunal had ordered a rerun, Darius would have taken her to the cleaners a million times.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by dustmalik(m): 8:18am On Nov 08, 2015
zicoraads:
And he stylishly side stepped the question. Are you from Taraba state? Or, where in Taraba do you stay?

Aisha can only win in her zone, Taraba-north. And that zone alone can never make her the governor. That zone is dominated by Muslims. The rest of the state by Christians. Stop spewing gibberish about things you know nothing about. You cannot stay where ever you are and claim to know more about a state you have probably never been to nor hail from.

If the tribunal had ordered a rerun, Darius would have taken her to the cleaners a million times.
The emboldened, maybe so. But we'll never know now, because there won't be a rerun.

PDP shot itself in the foot on this one.
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by tuniski: 8:46am On Nov 08, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
i agree with u on d part of how d majority vote is be throw out, but u are wrong on where d primary should be held, can u write exam in vc's office? But u can mark d exam in vc's office for security reasons, d same way u cannot conduct election in Cameroon but u can settle d matter in un court.
U can right exams in VC's office under certain conditions! The question is simple did pdp conduct primary for taraba? If yes, the venue is not entirely fixated. I even wonder for our politicians sef. So mama taraba will be happy to govern a state/people who clearly rejected her at the polls. Certainly, this is militocracy!
Re: Explaining Taraba Tribunal Judgement In Simple Terms by Ballmer: 9:12am On Nov 08, 2015
zicoraads:
And he stylishly side stepped the question. Are you from Taraba state? Or, where in Taraba do you stay?

Aisha can only win in her zone, Taraba-north. And that zone alone can never make her the governor. That zone is dominated by Muslims. The rest of the state by Christians. Stop spewing gibberish about things you know nothing about. You cannot stay where ever you are and claim to know more about a state you have probably never been to nor hail from.

If the tribunal had ordered a rerun, Darius would have taken her to the cleaners a million times.
Mr, best of luck to what or whoever Taraba want. Have not been there n can not argue the politics.
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