The advance countries visa policy is just a rip off, especially USA and UK the so called global powers are in forerunner of this exploitative tendency.
China won't even collect money from you until you are issued a visa, USA visa fees is also exorbitant at almost 40k, so so so sad that this foreign countries sees third world countries as a market to generate money from visa applications.

I continue to confirm and agree to the fact that the Continued unwarranted restrictions of third world countries is a form of discrimination and segregation which is used as a means of controlling third world countries psychologically.

If Britain, USA, and most EU countries open their boarders today for third world countries, I won't believe every youth will pack their bags and baggages to live there forever when they know they can enter and exit at anytime.

But the continued restriction makes the place so desirable, to the extent when some minority of people enter the country legally or illegally they don't want to live.

Visa policy system protects countries national boarders but it also has lots of political,economical,technological and psychological undertone.

Do u agree with this assertion?

Don't forget I understand quite alright the need for nations to protect and pursue there national interest,pride and prestige. And some people will insist we develop our economy too but the truth is that we would achieve greater and faster development when there is equality and openness amongst the have and the have not.
Thank u ,leave your comment, and no attack on my personality I am entitled to my own opinion, you have the right to agree or disagree....

@cronsberg

Next time you post in this section without swearing your post will stay.

djlameco:
The advance countries visa policy is just a rip off, especially USA and UK the so called global powers are in forerunner of this exploitative tendency.
China won't even collect money from you until you are issued a visa, USA visa fees is also exorbitant at almost 40k, so so so sad that this foreign countries sees third world countries as a market to generate money from visa applications.

I continue to confirm and agree to the fact that the Continued unwarranted restrictions of third world countries is a form of discrimination and segregation which is used as a means of controlling third world countries psychologically.

If Britain, USA, and most EU countries open their boarders today for third world countries, I won't believe every youth will pack their bags and baggages to live there forever when they know they can enter and exit at anytime.

But the continued restriction makes the place so desirable, to the extent when some minority of people enter the country legally or illegally they don't want to live.

Visa policy system protects countries national boarders but it also has lots of political,economical,technological and psychological undertone.

Do u agree with this assertion?

Don't forget I understand quite alright the need for nations to protect and pursue there national interest,pride and prestige. And some people will insist we develop our economy too but the truth is that we would achieve greater and faster development when there is equality and openness amongst the have and the have not.
Thank u ,leave your comment, and no attack on my personality I am entitled to my own opinion, you have the right to agree or disagree....

Can a Nigerian and some other Africans travel to South Africa, Egypt, Namibia etc without a visa? You focused your attention to West why within Africa we don't have free movement. This is the problem i have with some of us Africans, we are so quick to blame the West for one problem or the other but deliberately refused to acknowledge our own short comings.

Western countries need a visa to visit Nigeria and our embassies around the world treat them the way they treat us at their embassies in Nigeria.

I disagree with your assertion, open border is not an option again even within EU because the world is not a safe place anymore and countries need to check who comes in and out of their countries.

justwise:


Can a Nigerian and some other Africans travel to South Africa, Egypt, Namibia etc without a visa? You focused your attention to West why within Africa we don't have free movement. This is the problem i have with some of us Africans, we are so quick to blame the West for one problem or the other but deliberately refused to acknowledge our own short comings.

Western countries need a visa to visit Nigeria and our embassies around the world treat them the way they treat us at their embassies in Nigeria.

I disagree with your assertion, open border is not an option again even within EU because the world is not a safe place anymore and countries need to check who comes in and out of their countries.

@justwise you absolutely right, and I really appreciate your contribution, when I was in the uni we had a discussion about factors that are mitigating against development in Africa and we concluded that there was low trade among African countries, the world is not a safe place, but my argument buttress on the fact that the third world countries do not receive the same cooperation economically, politically and technologically.

djlameco:


@justwise you absolutely right, and I really appreciate your contribution, when I was in the uni we had a discussion about factors that are mitigating against development in Africa and we concluded that there was low trade among African countries, the world is not a safe place, but my argument buttress on the fact that the third world countries do not receive the same cooperation economically, politically and technologically.

Third world countries do but the problem is that while the West put the interest of their own citizens first during and after negotiation our own govt put their own personal interest and that of their friends and families first hence the reason why ordinary African don't feel the benefit of our dealings with outside world.

We share the same sentiment, immigration I recent years have been reduced to a thing of luck and not merit with officer have the abiturary power to choose whoever fits into there profiling and not necessarily what documents you provide.

Alright Justwise, no more foul words. But i still stand with my saying that there is no need for borders. The countries that feel threatened by criminal elements should just increase internal policing and internal protective measures. What do you say of people who are qualified in every sense to migrate or visit western countries but are systematically refused visas while the embassies still hold on to the visa application fees, which by the way are nothing but rip off. I can give an example with myself, few months ago, i applied for a canadian visa to visit the calgary stampede, submitted bank statements with acceptable amount in account, paid a 30,000 naira application fee, done everything the proper way,, but still denied, with the excuse that i don't have any property in nigeria. Applied again with my business documents to prove that indeed i have some assets in nigeria, denied again because i don't have family(not married). That is after wasting money to go to the VFS center in lagos to give finger prints, hotel spendings, transport e.t.c furthermore, hotel bookings in canada, tour bookings, westjet airline bookings and many more, which uptill now westjet, KLM and some hotels charged my mastercard to deduct the money but refused to refund me after my visa is denied. As i speak, more than 1000 dollars of my hard earned money is lingering with various hotels and airlines(westjet, KLM) and they basically make it impossible to get a refund. So because i ain't got no assets or wife, then i cannot travel? what of the westerners i see everyday who are unemployed, single, even living in homeless shelters but travel to other countries freely? I am very sure of what am saying because i watch alot of documentaries, reality t.v shows, border control shows e.t.c Does it seem fair? Why is it almost impossible to go to there countries? For the singular reason that i was cheated mercilessly by those countries and their companies, i recently made it my unwavering personal goal to enter their impossible to enter countries by any means possible. Please don't blame me or remove my comment, i am simply stating my mind and not encouraging anyone else to do the same. It is just my own personal thing. Its not that i am not comfortable in Nigeria, i come from a well to do family with everything i could ask for, but i am fed up with the extreme restrictions by those countries in regards to especially africans.
I still repeat, Bullocks with borders, bullocks with nations, No human being is illegal. Please justwise don't remove my comment, i didn't insult anybody or encourage illegality or violence. Just my thoughts from a humanist, non aligned, free point of view.

cronsberg:
Alright Justwise, no more foul words. But i still stand with my saying that there is no need for borders. The countries that feel threatened by criminal elements should just increase internal policing and internal protective measures. What do you say of people who are qualified in every sense to migrate or visit western countries but are systematically refused visas while the embassies still hold on to the visa application fees, which by the way are nothing but rip off. I can give an example with myself, few months ago, i applied for a canadian visa to visit the calgary stampede, submitted bank statements with acceptable amount in account, paid a 30,000 naira application fee, done everything the proper way,, but still denied, with the excuse that i don't have any property in nigeria. Applied again with my business documents to prove that indeed i have some assets in nigeria, denied again because i don't have family(not married). That is after wasting money to go to the VFS center in lagos to give finger prints, hotel spendings, transport e.t.c furthermore, hotel bookings in canada, tour bookings, westjet airline bookings and many more, which uptill now westjet, KLM and some hotels charged my mastercard to deduct the money but refused to refund me after my visa is denied. As i speak, more than 1000 dollars of my hard earned money is lingering with various hotels and airlines(westjet, KLM) and they basically make it impossible to get a refund. So because i ain't got no assets or wife, then i cannot travel? what of the westerners i see everyday who are unemployed, single, even living in homeless shelters but travel to other countries freely? I am very sure of what am saying because i watch alot of documentaries, reality t.v shows, border control shows e.t.c Does it seem fair? Why is it almost impossible to go to there countries? For the singular reason that i was cheated mercilessly by those countries and their companies, i recently made it my unwavering personal goal to enter their impossible to enter countries by any means possible. Please don't blame me or remove my comment, i am simply stating my mind and not encouraging anyone else to do the same. It is just my own personal thing. Its not that i am not comfortable in Nigeria, i come from a well to do family with everything i could ask for, but i am fed up with the extreme restrictions by those countries in regards to especially africans.
I still repeat, Bullocks with borders, bullocks with nations, No human being is illegal. Please justwise don't remove my comment, i didn't insult anybody or encourage illegality or violence. Just my thoughts from a humanist, non aligned, free point of view.

If they remove the borders or visas, Nigeria will empty there. Fact! It is a double standard situation. Our govt is not helping and since the officials are always granted alongside their family members curtsey of our looted funds, we are the ones not to show enough ties and get shut out. Justwise, has explained it, bro!

cronsberg:
Alright Justwise, no more foul words. But i still stand with my saying that there is no need for borders. The countries that feel threatened by criminal elements should just increase internal policing and internal protective measures. What do you say of people who are qualified in every sense to migrate or visit western countries but are systematically refused visas while the embassies still hold on to the visa application fees, which by the way are nothing but rip off. I can give an example with myself, few months ago, i applied for a canadian visa to visit the calgary stampede, submitted bank statements with acceptable amount in account, paid a 30,000 naira application fee, done everything the proper way,, but still denied, with the excuse that i don't have any property in nigeria. Applied again with my business documents to prove that indeed i have some assets in nigeria, denied again because i don't have family(not married). That is after wasting money to go to the VFS center in lagos to give finger prints, hotel spendings, transport e.t.c furthermore, hotel bookings in canada, tour bookings, westjet airline bookings and many more, which uptill now westjet, KLM and some hotels charged my mastercard to deduct the money but refused to refund me after my visa is denied. As i speak, more than 1000 dollars of my hard earned money is lingering with various hotels and airlines(westjet, KLM) and they basically make it impossible to get a refund. So because i ain't got no assets or wife, then i cannot travel? what of the westerners i see everyday who are unemployed, single, even living in homeless shelters but travel to other countries freely? I am very sure of what am saying because i watch alot of documentaries, reality t.v shows, border control shows e.t.c Does it seem fair? Why is it almost impossible to go to there countries? For the singular reason that i was cheated mercilessly by those countries and their companies, i recently made it my unwavering personal goal to enter their impossible to enter countries by any means possible. Please don't blame me or remove my comment, i am simply stating my mind and not encouraging anyone else to do the same. It is just my own personal thing. Its not that i am not comfortable in Nigeria, i come from a well to do family with everything i could ask for, but i am fed up with the extreme restrictions by those countries in regards to especially africans.
I still repeat, Bullocks with borders, bullocks with nations, No human being is illegal. Please justwise don't remove my comment, i didn't insult anybody or encourage illegality or violence. Just my thoughts from a humanist, non aligned, free point of view.

And the sentimentalism continues

Calgary stampede ke. the visa officer was probably wondering why an African would want to spend so much money just on traveling for a one week cowboy show.

That aside, I disagree with your views because advanced countries are properly planned. their infrastructure, healthcare, benefits systems e.t.c are just enough for their population. once they open their border to everyone, alot of visitors from 3rd world countries would not want to return to their country of nationality thereby stressing the system.
An example is Canada. Canada has started accepting Syrian refugees, as a result of that, some hospitals are already turning back people (citizens inclusive). is this fair on people that have paid tax for years now been turned back when they need to access the facilities they paid for. Also, imagine what would have happened to Europe or America when Ebola broke out in west Africa if there was no border control.

^^ Your argument doesn't make sense. What then are asians, south americans and australians doing at the calgary stampede? Because all of them go there too. For your info, different people have different hobbies and likes, yours might be football, others might be wrestling, I myself like rodeo, and I also have cattle of my own. So why wouldn't i wish to visit the calgary stampede? what is wierd in an african liking rodeo? Using your arguments, then the many africans that go to europe to watch football games should not be allowed too because what is an african doing in a european invented football game? The rodeo that you think is an exclusive white people sport was actually gotten from spanish horse riding and cattle herding traditions, which they themselves got from north africa and elsewhere (most probably fulani). So I myself being a fulani man with cattle of his own has as much right to anything about cattle as the white people. In addition, you might not know this but the fulani were the original cowboys, so it is only natural for me to have an interest in cowboy sports. And you don't even know whether i intended to introduce something similar to rodeo here in my locality and in essence create a whole new industry for my fulani folks.
And about your argument that opening their border will stretch their institutions and infrastructure, i also disagree with that. Opening of borders have happened before. With millions of diffrent people trooping into especially the U.S and other countries, if anything, it has proven to increase the countries' GDP and overall productivity. Many countries despirately need new people to fill shortages in the labour market, but a few probably racist, hypocritical people will continue to impose strict restrictions even to the detriment of their countries economies. Like it nor not, immigration is a needed thing and actually has many advantages like reduction of world wide poverty, Increase of global GDP, it will increase globalization and the one world mantra so encouraged by the west.
According to the American reformer, social activist, abolitionist and statesman Frederick Douglass "Migration is, and has always been a foundamental human right". and when confronted with the migration of millions of chinese and others to america, much like the western leaders of today are screaming about the dangers of allowing people to enter their countries, Frederick Douglass has this to say;

There are such things in the world as human rights. They rest upon no conventional foundation, but are external, universal, and indestructible. Among these, is the right of locomotion; the right of migration; the right which belongs to no particular race, but belongs alike to all and to all alike. It is the right you assert by staying here, and your fathers asserted by coming here. It is this great right that I assert for the Chinese and Japanese, and for all other varieties of men equally with yourselves, now and forever. I know of no rights of race superior to the rights of humanity, and when there is a supposed conflict between human and national rights, it is safe to go to the side of humanity. I have great respect for the blue eyed and light haired races of America. They are a mighty people. In any struggle for the good things of this world they need have no fear. They have no need to doubt that they will get their full share.

But I reject the arrogant and scornful theory by which they would limit migratory rights, or any other essential human rights to themselves, and which would make them the owners of this great continent to the exclusion of all other races of men.

I want a home here not only for the negro, the mulatto and the Latin races; but I want the Asiatic to find a home here in the United States, and feel at home here, both for his sake and for ours. Right wrongs no man. If respect is had to majorities, the fact that only one fifth of the population of the globe is white, the other four fifths are colored, ought to have some weight and influence in disposing of this and similar questions. It would be a sad reflection upon the laws of nature and upon the idea of justice, to say nothing of a common Creator, if four fifths of mankind were deprived of the rights of migration to make room for the one fifth. If the white race may exclude all other races from this continent, it may rightfully do the same in respect to all other lands, islands, capes and continents, and thus have all the world to itself.

People should think out of the box and reason why the world powers created borders in the first place. Borders are unnatural and is a form of global apertheid. Just check this link below to enlighten yourself and free yourself from the mainstream institutionalization.
http://openborders.info/blog/frederick-douglass-migration-is-and-always-has-been-a-fundamental-human-right/

cronsberg:


People should think out of the box and reason why the world powers created borders in the first place. Borders are unnatural and is a form of global apertheid. Just check this link below to enlighten yourself and free yourself from the mainstream institutionalization.
http://openborders.info/blog/frederick-douglass-migration-is-and-always-has-been-a-fundamental-human-right/

How about Nigeria? No border? Anybody is allowed to come in?

djlameco:


@justwise you absolutely right, and I really appreciate your contribution, when I was in the uni we had a discussion about factors that are mitigating against development in Africa and we concluded that there was low trade among African countries, the world is not a safe place, but my argument buttress on the fact that the third world countries do not receive the same cooperation economically, politically and technologically.

POC..its MILITATING not mitigating.mitigating is to make somefin easier..not like u used it in this context.bless

Op pls do u any idea of wat it will cost me 4 a tourism visa to philipine

djlameco:
The advance countries visa policy is just a rip off, especially USA and UK the so called global powers are in forerunner of this exploitative tendency.
China won't even collect money from you until you are issued a visa, USA visa fees is also exorbitant at almost 40k, so so so sad that this foreign countries sees third world countries as a market to generate money from visa applications.

I continue to confirm and agree to the fact that the Continued unwarranted restrictions of third world countries is a form of discrimination and segregation which is used as a means of controlling third world countries psychologically.

If Britain, USA, and most EU countries open their boarders today for third world countries, I won't believe every youth will pack their bags and baggages to live there forever when they know they can enter and exit at anytime.

But the continued restriction makes the place so desirable, to the extent when some minority of people enter the country legally or illegally they don't want to live.

Visa policy system protects countries national boarders but it also has lots of political,economical,technological and psychological undertone.

Do u agree with this assertion?

Don't forget I understand quite alright the need for nations to protect and pursue there national interest,pride and prestige. And some people will insist we develop our economy too but the truth is that we would achieve greater and faster development when there is equality and openness amongst the have and the have not.
Thank u ,leave your comment, and no attack on my personality I am entitled to my own opinion, you have the right to agree or disagree....

Levelzguy:
POC..its MILITATING not mitigating.mitigating is to make somefin easier..not like u used it in this context.bless

I thought they said it doesn't matter