IlekeHD:
Did jaybee3 actually said I like arguing?

tele tele nko?

If I see shaddy activities, shouldn't I point it out?

Is extortion not a crime?

If coogar pays without taking this to court, this is extortion and if babe3 collects the money she is also guilty of blackmail. So are will the people egging coogar on to pay are perverting the course of justice.



cc Seun

Extorting her own money that was alleged to have fraudulently taken from her?

You still aren't getting it

The girl alledgedly sent her school fees to coogar so he can use his business account to cut down on his taxes (The plan would have been legit if they were married and she lived in the UK as it's a tax avoidance scheme which isn't a crime)

The issue was he collected the money but then used a stolen credit card to pay the fees which was then chargec back.

She obviously had to source money from other means to make the original payment meaning she lost $4k in the process

Her intention was genuine as it appears she was only trying to help her bf at the time


What part of that don't you understand?

She wouldn't have known the arrangement was all porkies since UK tax system for contractors is a li bit complicated and most times contractors need accountants to break it down for them.

The Arif angle was to perfect the storyline since she was a complete novice

IlekeHD:


Sagamite, stop being posh with me, ajepako himself .

Next time you want to talk to me, let's converse in Yoruba.

You'll statrt speaking Yoruba by force



lol oloshi. I don dey suspect you sha

I been say this bobo's cloth is too fine for $5/hr

Ekiti addresses? I'm sure that toutish clown Fayose is in on it

Fayose na head of our fraud pyramid.

Kimoni:


evade council tax ke?

Dem no dey mess with dem moni o.

I pay straight up!

MysticZeus:


They would soon start calling You a Coogar accomplice or a thief for telling them the truth!

My brother, u think say I care? I am not part of their stupid cliques. Reason why I back off from attaching to NLder. Too much drama and hypocrites waiting to tear u to pieces once u goof.

Only very few I respect here but most? Too biased mehn...

Call a spade a spade and take the bull by d horn. I don't belong to the pity party

Uk police apologized for somebody that was arrested in the Us

God help us.

Sagamite:

Pay my rent and see me twerk.

I like. How do you want it, WU, Arif or 5 credit cards?

Dyt:


I no kuku get money
But that's how much I know r231


Hi Bobo
Awon omoge yen nko
Shon toju won Dada
The kondo too

Won le toju mi to e. (They can't take care of me as much as you can.)

Mo gborun dollars lara e. (You smell of dollars to me.)

Mo ma serenade e paa ni 2016. (I will serenade you to death in 2016)

jaybee3:

...................novice

Quick question. The $4,000 case isn't an isolated incident, is it? He had collected money from her numerous times and promised to pay with his credit card, right??

Is this the first time "his" credit cards refused to work and if it isn't, why is she having an issue with it now? I am not sure I fully understand what is going on, so pardon me if my question seem silly. If I borrow someone money and every time I borrow them, it's a hassle to get my money back, why would I continue to do it?

Sagamite, abeg help me explain the allowable expenses ish for contractors jare cos that's the koko

Hotels
Rents
Professional Exams

All the above are allowable expense if indeed he is a real IT contractor

However, it's impossible for him to claim such since he can't possibly be working in the UK and having all that expense incurred overseas at the same time

Tuition fees isn't an allowable expense

It's fairly easy for a novice to believe they were genuinely helping when they could have been used to perpetrate criminal activities

Jaybee3, have a question. Why is it after several months babe3 is just coming out to say this? I clearly remember the thread that started this

Why aren't u also not saying the bitter truth on the issue?

And lastly, why isn't she addressing the issue Coogar claimed she also borrrowed

Both parties are guilty. She was an accomplice. Full stop

olu4life:

My brother, u think say I care? I am not part of their stupid cliques. Reason why I back off from attaching to NLder. Too much drama and hypocrites waiting to tear u to pieces once u goof.

Only very few I respect here but most? Too biased mehn...

Call a spade a spade and take the bull by d horn. I don't belong to the pity party

Exactly, that's just the best thing to do.

Do not follow ANY clique on NL.

Bunch of Hypocrites!

*spits*

Tamee:


I like. How do you want it, WU, Arif or 5 credit cards?

As long as the card would work sha.

jaybee3:


Extorting her own money that was [size=18pt]alleged to have fraudulently taken from her[/size]?

You still aren't getting it

The girl alledgedly sent her school fees to coogar so he can use his business account to cut down on his taxes (The plan would have been legit if they were married and she lived in the UK as it's a tax avoidance scheme which isn't a crime)

The issue was he collected the money but then used a stolen credit card to pay the fees which was then chargec back.

She obviously had to source money from other means to make the original payment meaning she lost $4k in the process

Her intention was genuine as it appears she was only trying to help her bf at the time


What part of that don't you understand?

She wouldn't have known the arrangement was all porkies since UK tax system for contractors is a li bit complicated and most times contractors need accountants to break it down for them.

The Arif angle was to perfect the storyline since she was a complete novice

Abeg oga, this is all noise.

SO IT'S NOW BACK TO ALLEGE?

I thought you guys were so sure that it's her money and that it's her school fees.

You carry gala for your head without even getting the full sides of the story, allegedly claiming that Babe3 is innocent and coogar is guilty.

Sir, you're may also be guilty of coercion and extortion of money from an alleged criminal.....only the court has the legal right to determine who is guilty/innocent and who is being owed money.

Were you there when they were sharing stolen money from stolen credit cards?

So she came to you ba? Why not go to the right authorities since she has evidence? Oh she had? where is THAT evidence?

Who made you judge/jury of NL? And why are you protecting criminals on NL?


cc Seun

Sh0llypopz:


Quick question. The $4,000 case isn't an isolated incident, is it? He had collected money from her numerous times and promised to pay with his credit card, right??

Is this the first time "his" credit cards refused to work and if it isn't, why is she having an issue with it now? I am not sure I fully understand what is going, so pardon me if my question seem silly. If I borrow someone money and every time I borrow them, it's a hassle to get my money back, why would I continue to do it?

I've answered the question below with my subsequent post

The 4k isn't an isolated incident. The western union transfers started around 2012

jaybee3:
Sagamite, abeg help me explain the allowable expenses ish for contractors jare cos that's the koko

Hotels
Rents
Professional Exams

All the above are allowable expense if indeed he is a real IT contractor

However, it's impossible for him to claim such since he can't possibly be working in the UK and having all that expense incurred overseas at the same time

Tuition fees isn't an allowable expense

It's fairly easy for a novice to believe they were genuinely helping when they could have been used to perpetrate criminal activities

Don't be a coward by draging sagamite into this.... I'm talking to YOU.

Don't try to convince anyone with shaddy articles and half-truths. You have all the evidence? Take these two aleged scammers and credit card fraudsters to the right officials.

Stop protecting criminals.

IlekeHD:



1. Making coogar pay before taking this issue to court = EXTORTION which is punishable in court itself.

2. Both are guilty of blackmail : "blackmailing to bring this on NL unless he pays" and "blackmailing to post her nude pixs if she brings the case to NL"

3. Coercion and abetting an alleged criminal : the mods [r231/jaybee3/airmark/etc] and those involved.

All these felonies are punishable and grievous offenses.

4. All the stolen money wey Bbabe3 don collect sef...for hotels, first class trip, etc as una claim..... she will need to pay back too.

"coogar is talking to justkay to settle this"

bla bla bla.....why are they entertaining alleged criminals?

the court, the prosecutors will look into so many things but NL would be tagged by foreign reporters/journalist as a Nigerian forum where cyber-criminals meet, that alone is bad for seun's business and you can't also imagine what they would write, there would be uproars here and there and who knows the prosecutors might even go further to get an injunction blocking NL from the whole of UK, US etc

IlekeHD:



Abeg oga, this is all noise.

SO IT'S NOW BACK TO ALLEGE?

I thought you guys were so sure that it's her money and that it's her school fees.

You carry gala for your head without even getting the full sides of the story, allegedly claiming that Babe3 is innocent and coogar is guilty.

Sir, you're may also be guilty of coercion and extortion of money from an alleged criminal.....only the court has the legal right to determine who is guilty/innocent and who is being owed money.

Were you there when they were sharing stolen money from stolen credit cards?

So she came to you ba? Why not go to the right authorities since she has evidence? Oh she had? where is THAT evidence?

Who made you judge/jury of NL? And why are you protecting criminals on NL?


cc Seun

You asked questions and i've tried to explain to you at various times but yet you are hell bent on your idiotic campaign

If you are as concerned as you are trying to make us believe then what stops you from demanding for the so called evidence so you can help forward them to the authorities ?

Sh0llypopz:


Quick question. The $4,000 case isn't an isolated incident, is it? He had collected money from her numerous times and promised to pay with his credit card, right??

Is this the first time "his" credit cards refused to work and if it isn't, why is she having an issue with it now? I am not sure I fully understand what is going on, so pardon me if my question seem silly. If I borrow someone money and every time I borrow them, it's a hassle to get my money back, why would I continue to do it?

Great questions!!

If you see their evidence, you'll see that the girl showed neither surprise or shock.

She has been dating him for 3 years, which court would believe her stories by moonlight?

They're both alleged criminals...an accomplice and a credit card fraudsters ....... two arabian thieves at night.

Imagine, someone right now somewhere in the USA is devastated because she has to pay back money she never spent. One elder adult somewhere has been defrauded of her social security funds.

IlekeHD:



Don't be a coward by draging sagamite into this.... I'm talking to YOU.

Don't try to convince anyone with shaddy articles and half-truths. You have all the evidence? Take these two aleged scammers and credit card fraudsters to the right officials.

Stop protecting criminals.

What's up with the disrespect?

Don't you dare accuse me of half truths if you don't have evidence to the contrary.

You are also a concerned citizen so do the needful and stop ranting

Nuff said#

jaybee3:
Sagamite, abeg help me explain the allowable expenses ish for contractors jare cos that's the koko

Hotels
Rents
Professional Exams

All the above are allowable expense if indeed he is a real IT contractor

However, it's impossible for him to claim such since he can't possibly be working in the UK and having all that expense incurred overseas at the same time

Tuition fees isn't an allowable expense

It's fairly easy for a novice to believe they were genuinely helping when they could have been used to perpetrate criminal activities

Allowable expenses are quite complex.

The basics are:

- The expense needs to be directly related to your business activities. If it is not totally directly related to your business activities, you need to calculate a proportion. E.g. using your personal phone as a work phone, you need to calculate what proportion of the line rental and cost of calls are for personal, and which is for work. The work one is tax deductible.

- Some expenses allowed are related to you working off-site. Off-site means working away on a site (lets say, your client's office) from the registered Office of your business for most of the working day (I think more than 4 hours), as long as the period of working at this site does not exceed a 24 month period. If it does exceed 24 months, you have to treat the client's office (site) as your registered office and can no longer claim the away expenses. E.g. You can claim your lunch as expenses if you work at a client site for up to 24 months and it would be tax deductible. If you stay with that client for more than 24 months, the cost of your lunch can no longer be business expenses.

Paying your girlfriend's tuition fees definitely does not qualify for allowable expenses and is not tax deductible.

bennyrazz:
[size=18pt]the court, the prosecutors will look into so many things but NL would be tagged by foreign reporters/journalist as a Nigerian forum where cyber-criminals meet[/size], that alone is bad for seun's business and you can't also imagine what they would write, there would be uproars here and there and who knows the prosecutors might even go further to get an injunction blocking NL from the whole of UK, US etc

Na today?

Or NL can be tagged as forum that fights scam artists.

Whichever one seun chooses.

hresso:
Uk police apologized for somebody that was arrested in the Us

God help us.

Do you have an issue with that?
Has he scammed anyone you know?
Pls come out to say

hresso:
Uk police apologized for somebody that was arrested in the Us

God help us.

I can't laugh!

jaybee3:

You asked questions and i've tried to explain to you at various times but yet you are hell bent on your idiotic campaign

If you are as concerned as you are trying to make us believe then what stops you from demanding for the so called evidence so you can help forward them to the authorities ?

Sir, earlier, you and your soldier ants mentioned that you've taken the case to court.......can NL have that evidence?

My ediotic campaign? Oh my!


cc Seun

olu4life:
Jaybee3, have a question. Why is it after several months babe3 is just coming out to say this? I clearly remember the thread that started this

Why aren't u also not saying the bitter truth on the issue?

And lastly, why isn't she addressing the issue Coogar claimed she also borrrowed

Both parties are guilty. She was an accomplice. Full stop

Maybe, but methinks she is just a lady who suddenly realized that LOVE IS NOT ENOUGH..
Really, the true victims are those whose credit cards are being used to pay for flights and to buy expensive stuffs online, if truly there was a credit card fraud.

Sagamite:


Won le toju mi to e. (They can't take care of me as much as you can.)

Mo gborun dollars lara e. (You smell of dollars to me.)

Mo ma serenade e paa ni 2016. (I will serenade you to death in 2016)

You know how much I want it too na
Come to me baby
I like them.old and bald
You slim too
Tall
Yummy

There's always something common to bald men
*licks lips*

jaybee3:


What's up with the disrespect?

Don't you dare accuse me of half truths if you don't have evidence to the contrary.

You are also a concerned citizen so do the needful and stop ranting

Nuff said#

So I'm gonna go to the law and say coogar and babe3 defrauded so and so?

Who is coogar and babe3?

Una wey get all the evidence, address, names, bank info etc....God chop una feet? Una no get phone to call cops?


When Babe3 was traveling business class, staying in hotels, decked in designer shoes and bag with cash coogar alleged stole from innocent people, where were you?

Yet you can vouch for guilt/innocence?


And why are you guys hiding posts?

IlekeHD:


Great questions!!

If you see their evidence, you'll see that the girl showed neither surprise or shock.

She has been dating him for 3 years, which court would believe her stories by moonlight?

They're both alleged criminals...an accomplice and a credit card fraudsters ....... two arabian thieves at night.

Imagine, someone right now somewhere in the USA is devastated because she has to pay back money she never spent. One elder adult somewhere has been defrauded of her social security funds.

I really didn't want to believe she was an accomplice but everything is pointing to the fact that something isn't right and none of the "elders" are even trying to answer the questions.

You are the only one asking questions and it seems to be making most people uncomfortable. I don't get it

Sagamite:


Allowable expenses are quite complex.

The basics are:

- The expense needs to be directly related to your business activies. If not totally directly related to your business activities, you need to calculate a proportion. E.g. using your personal phone as a work phone, you need to calculate what propotion of the line rental and calls are for personal, and which is for work. The work one is tax deductible.

- Some expenses allowed are related to you working off-site. Off-site means working away on a site (lets say, your client's office) from the registered Office of your business for most of the working day (I think more than 4 hours), as long as the period of working at this site does not exceed a 24 month period. If it does exceed 24 months, you have to treat the client's office (site) as your registered office and can no longer claim the away expenses. E.g. You can claim your lunch as expenses if you work at a client site for up to 24 months and it would be tax deductible. If you stay with that client for more than 24 months, the cost of your lunch can no longer be business expenses.

Paying your girlfriend's tuition fees definitely does not qualify for allowable expenses and is not tax deductible.

Exactly my point

Babe3 couldn't have understood all that since that's what was sold to her

Sagamite:




As long as the card would work sha.

Trust me, my tuition fee is hefty, can pay your rent and take you to the olympics.

So, all you have to do is twerk and do an exotic pole dance for me.

Sh0llypopz:


Thanks, just finished scanning through the thread. What is your opinion about this thread/allegations?? Do you have any?

I believe the accused is a cc fraudster who also threatens his victims. And this issue should be taken to the authorities. I believe the accuser was complicit in some actions but may legally be able to get off lightly with a good defense (based on what we know at least. We don't know the timeline of when she realized fraudulent activity was going on and how long it took her to remove herself from that.) I am in complete disbelief as to how the accused fell for all this in the first place.

jaybee3:


Exactly my point

Babe3 couldn't have understood all that since that's what was sold to her

Are you Babe3?

Make she explain her ignorance to the Law. Since una sure of innocence, let her go to court.


Your extortion of funds from an alleged criminal without taking this issue to court is punishable by the US federal law [where they stole money], UK federal law [where coogar resides] and Finnland federal law [Babe3's origin].