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Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by anonimi: 8:32am On Nov 24, 2015
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 8:32am On Nov 24, 2015
Truth234:
Naira can not fall, it has been fixed.
You are joking. Exchange rate is 241/$
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody:
stinggy:
Diversify this shittty economy; Agric, Tin, Limestone, Metal ore, etc.
Each state has one thing or the other her land is good for but we have visionless and lazy governors who depend solely on handouts from Abuja at month end.

It was very painful to watch Ajimobi talk about 3rd bail-out fund at a time when talks should be intense on how to look away from FG money and grow each state's IGR.
Most state governors are slow. They do not see governance as a business. They wont run their private businesses the way they run their states.

They see governance as a place where free funds are shared monthly. Is there a law prohibiting state government from investing in Agriculture and Plantations ? Even if it is Private Partnership.

Thousands of hectares of land are wasting in their states yet the masses cry unemployment.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by vision2050: 8:35am On Nov 24, 2015
Truckpusher:
No worry , Na die you dey so. grin grin grin tongue
Die? I rebuke that. You can wish yourself so.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by SeverusSnape(m): 8:36am On Nov 24, 2015
Naughtysite:
Buhari will probe you..

grin cheesy
Hahahaha... Let the dull'ard do his worst o grin

let him go and probe egift the data fraudster.

"... While everyone were jumping up and down that they got a new president, I looked at my bank account, and it didn't change ". - Naughtysite, 2015.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by rottennaija(m): 8:36am On Nov 24, 2015
Validated:
What does fixed Naira mean to the man with five children and no job?
What does a fixed Naira contribute to a farmer that needs fertilizers and implement, most of which are imported?
How does fixing Naira help the importation cost of critical raw materials for ailing industries?
Are you aware that some of the economic indices have gone SOUTHWARDS due to these archaic policies?
Have you quantified the implecation of importing refined products as we fixed our Naira?

in a free economy, you do not need to fix exchange rates. Have you thought of fixing stock prices on the NSE to avoid stock from depreciation? This measure is crude and not sustainable. At the rate things are going, you would soon find out that this economy havecrept into recession with it associated hyper and galloping inflation.
While a fixed naira to dollar make things difficult at the moment, and things may get worse in the months ahead. The truth about the matter and what buhari and his economic team understand is that bold measures had to be taken.

Yes, things will be difficult because of this measures, but with time, this bold measures will bring better benefit. What the government is doing is laying a solid foundation for it economic revival.


The situation in Nigeria is similar to what happened in Obama's first tenure. Jobs were lost, cost of livelihood high, but Obama understood that with time, the country will benefit more from their long term economic plan than the short term plan Republicans where championing.
Our economic was in a very bad state. All those shout of employment and job creation was a scam. It will not take a year or two to end out economic woes, but with time, with persistent and dedication, you will see Nigeria rise again, not in papers as was in the past administration but in reality.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 8:36am On Nov 24, 2015
Kay17:
Who will represent you at this CONFAB? Isn't it the same unimaginative elite? Besides if the country "decides" to split, wouldn't it be into more fictional countries which have never existed nor have a history? Besides most of the emerging countries will be unviable without seaports and oil revenue
Abeg, tell them oo.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by codedguy1(m): 8:37am On Nov 24, 2015
CyberWolf:
As long as we keep practicing this system of government, we will continue to move in the negative direction. True federalism is the answer but we know the parasitic region that is always against it.. angry
I totally agrEe with you.

We are just messing around, until we decide to do the right thing by adopting true federalsm/regionalim we will continue to dance about like a yoyo.

As per the parasitic regions, pride will not allow them let go just because they fEel that once they let go a particular region will be too rich owing to the fact that all the money the country is sharing is coming from that region.

But they fail to realise that if they let go and invest in whatever they have a comparative advantage they would fair better.

A state like kogi receiving about 4-5billion monthly allocation will even make 10-15B monthly if it harnessess its own human and material resources for itself. Same with other states but with diff amout higher than what they currently receive as allocation.


In less than 10yrs we can get out of this situation and be prosperous if we decide to practise true Federalism/regionalism from today.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Truckpusher(m): 8:39am On Nov 24, 2015
SeverusSnape:
grin grin
https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/411/964/9b5.jpg
grin grin grin

My brother laugh wan kill me here.

To share a country with regions that gives out nothing and is not willing to accept any logical change is something you'll never wish for any people.
What you're seeing here is 50 yrs of Northern and South west blind policy of subjugation and greed with a lazy mentality of being over dependent on oil they do not have and can't even manage even as Nigeria belongs to them.
Let us face the music - This is just Osadebe by the time we get to the reggae it would be nasty.
Don't listen to those shouting 16 yrs of PDP as if the structure of the country itself isn't a thing that calls for a major concern.
Let's practice true federalism and let each region develop at their own pace but they said we must die first before we get it.
We won't die - They are already going down economically, and of course we all are on board.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Kay17: 8:40am On Nov 24, 2015
AdeniyiA:
irony, while the excess is not available for local consumption undecided
If I was an oil trader, I would rather burn the oil in open air than sell in the local market, because it is not PROFITABLE!
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by wiseoneking: 8:40am On Nov 24, 2015
Truth234:
You still don't understand, the price at parallel market is always different. Not only in Nigeria across the world, the same thing with banks, they all add spread.

Listen no one is saying there is no issue at hand but saying Naira will fall is wrong, if that decision caused us been delisted from JPMorgan emerging market bond. Why now?

It should remain fixed until there is economically viable diversification strategy.
stop talking jargons. The naira is in a real problem. The person you quoted was right. We pretend to acknowledge the truth and will always be quick to site other countries in such quargmire. Diversification is what the govt talks about but NEVER Practise it. DOOMS DAY?
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by MizMyColi(f): 8:41am On Nov 24, 2015
Truckpusher:
I'm here to announce to all the chai chanting dolts that your 5000 Naira is nowhere in sight. grin

I know some nairalanders that voted for Buhari all for five kpali, their calculation was simple - If they can get free five gees every month and add it up to whatever they get with the free meal for their kids then they'd be just fine. grin

Chai! The body odor has failed us - Buhari betrayed us , now how do I chant 'Sai baba' for mama nkechi to give me akara on credit.? grin
Anonimi and mizmycoli this is all your fault. angry grin
Naaaa
This is totally on Anonimi.

He didn't vote Buhari
If he did, then maybe his Goodluck would have helped the economy.

Nigerian Youths...

Sacrificing their future on the altar of stipends and free meals.
Omase o o
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by InvertedHammer: 8:41am On Nov 24, 2015
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There is glut in crude oil.

Yet there is fuel scarcity in Nigeria.

What is the missing link? Refineries.

God forbid a black person uses his brain. They are still waiting for oyibo to point out the idiocy in exporting crude to import refined petroleum in this 21st century.

Bunch of mo.rons lead by mo.rons. I want the economy to be obliterated.
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Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Ofornaira: 8:42am On Nov 24, 2015
Ioannes:
when our crude sold for $120/barrel we didnt diversify the economy. jonathan and co packed as much as they could with both hands. now crude is around $40/barrel we are expecting a miracle.

time to tighten our belts. turbulence ahead.
It's really painful that people like u are still pointing finger at jonathan. Are u saying that apc has no plans of their own on how to move this nation forward? U should know that the economy of any country is made better by the plans of her leaders. I am afraid. the economy may be worse in the future if apc continues this way.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by mharita2015(f): 8:44am On Nov 24, 2015
zibi2:
cry
True that. Nigeria's economy is been milked dry by a selected few while the vast majority suffer. I like your picture, it speaks volume!


God bless Nigeria.....
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Ofornaira: 8:46am On Nov 24, 2015
MizMyColi:
Naaaa This is totally on Anonimi.
He didn't vote Buhari If he did, then maybe his Goodluck would have helped the economy.
Nigerian Youths...
Sacrificing their future on the altar of stipends and free meals. Omase o o
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Ofornaira: 8:47am On Nov 24, 2015
MizMyColi:
Naaaa This is totally on Anonimi.
He didn't vote Buhari If he did, then maybe his Goodluck would have helped the economy.
Nigerian Youths...
Sacrificing their future on the altar of stipends and free meals. Omase o o
Tell this to yoloba youths pls.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by stinggy(m): 8:48am On Nov 24, 2015
chuna1985:
It's impossible for a state governor to mine the resources in his state.
But Agric?
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by datigbogirl: 8:50am On Nov 24, 2015
dabriggs:
AMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNN!

Please if this oil glut and drop on dollar value per barrel of crude will make us sit up and find the use for crude then let is crash to 50 kobo. Not cents sef. Kobo.

If this drop will make us sit up, dictating the value to be created from a barrel of crude and seeing the opportunity of competing, using location advantage, to supply Africa (especially West Africa), then let is be so.

If this crash will make us focus on other areas of the economy as income/revenue earners. Then let oil become useless.

If this crash and glut will make politics less interesting because of free crude oil money to be stolen and embezzled, then God please crash it further. Let there be no more money to steal and let only those who are interested in true service get into leadership and politics.

I am in France and to me these guys only produce Nuclear Power and some fresh farm stuff, however, these guys have developed so far that, it pains me when I remember that I am coming back to a country where nothing works. You see these guys toil day and night to keep their city clean and functioning. And we go there and pose for selfies. I sit in their parks and wonder about Nigeria and why the black race is cursed. Why we cannot achieve anything if the white man does not get involved or if we do not get help from the white man. Why we can hardly think about collective good, but greedily steal and steal and steal and embezzle. Then we cry that we have cancer and we want to see T.B. Joshua.

If this fall in demand, and glut in crude stock will make state governors focus on minerals within their states and promote the local utilization of these natural resources for the common good of their citizens, then let the price of crude crash forever. Because I am tired of States only using TAXES and FEDERAL ALLOCATIONS, being lazy to even think of how to generate revenue which will not cause distress for the common man. All they know are taxes, charges, fees and allocations.
Na just mouth you get, if shittt hits d fan now na you go first run.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Franzinni: 8:52am On Nov 24, 2015
A storm is coming!!!
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 8:53am On Nov 24, 2015
datigbogirl:
Na just mouth you get, if shittt hits d fan now na you go first run.
If that shitt will make us rethink our policies and re-position towards economic development, then please let it hit the fan. We are so afraid of shhiiit hitting the fan, but we live in shhiiit everyday. Our education is shiit also. Imagine the type of ''shhit-hitting-the-fan'' fearing graduate it has produced.

I am calling for an economic rethink and revolution. Not ''The Zoo Must Fall'' talk.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by ArodeTsolaye: 8:54am On Nov 24, 2015
The zoo will crumble naturally like every artificial creation- Nnamdi Kanu 2015

Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 8:55am On Nov 24, 2015
Truckpusher:
Mass wailing awaits us all. grin
grin grin...oboy...everybody go unanimously wail when the wahala set in... grin grin grin...we go finally get the chance to lynch our leaders... wink cheesy grin
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Observant: 8:56am On Nov 24, 2015
Africa/Nigeria need to be sunk for the humanity to succeed.
Here lies a bottomless abyss of fraud, diseases, corruption, utter hopelessness, natural in-born dementia, gross stupidity, deceit, inferiority complex, and greed.

Hell is Africa and black man is Lucifer.....quote me anywhere.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by dewstar: 8:56am On Nov 24, 2015
Opinedecandid:
Tinubu, has your eyes now opened to the fact that the race is not to the swift neither the battle to the strong?
Powerful.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by codedguy1(m): 8:58am On Nov 24, 2015
rottennaija:
While a fixed naira to dollar make things difficult at the moment, and things may get worse in the months ahead. The truth about the matter and what buhari and his economic team understand is that bold measures had to be taken.

Yes, things will be difficult because of this measures, but with time, this bold measures will bring better benefit. What the government is doing is laying a solid foundation for it economic revival.


The situation in Nigeria is similar to what happened in Obama's first tenure. Jobs were lost, cost of livelihood high, but Obama understood that with time, the country will benefit more from their long term economic plan than the short term plan Republicans where championing.
Our economic was in a very bad state. All those shout of employment and job creation was a scam. It will not take a year or two to end out economic woes, but with time, with persistent and dedication, you will see Nigeria rise again, not in papers as was in the past administration but in reality.
I want to agree with you to an extent. The truth is no matter the policy direction of this govt or any govt for that matter at helms it will be difficult, even if it is the right policy.

The question now is, ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING? So that if we tighten our belts for like 2yrs we would then reap the benefits of getting it right. But if we are still doing the wrong things/policy and are thinking we would suffer now and soon it would be ok, we are deceiving ourselves.

The laws of the land eg the constitution is even a problem. Allow regions generate transmit and distribite their electricity, land use act, every land belongs to FG, fed road state road rubbish, if land and road is in a state that state shud manage it, simple. It also means states own their resources, they can exploit it and pay taxes to govt. Maintain roads etc. States will decide their own minimum wage based on their resourcefullness. States can attract DFI to help them exploit their resources with regulated conditions etc.

That's the way forward.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Truckpusher(m): 8:58am On Nov 24, 2015
MizMyColi:
Naaaa
This is totally on Anonimi.

He didn't vote Buhari
If he did, then maybe his Goodluck would have helped the economy.

Nigerian Youths...

Sacrificing their future on the altar of stipends and free meals.
Omase o o
I dey tell you. grin

When I said that some persons voted for Bubu because of five thousand naira and a free meal for their kids , I wasn't joking at all . This is the reality and it has finally dawned on them that all changes doesn't equate to positive changes and on top of that you now have an individual whose vindictive nature and bigotry won't let him trust others with one useless 'I'm better than you mentality' piloting the affairs of this nation and some zombies are still expecting change.
How can you run a govt. for almost 6 months without any economic team on ground ? The economy will slip into comma.
In this 21st century where no one is sure about anything coupled with our inclination towards total capitalism and dependent on oil alone ,it is a standard practice to have economic team 24 hours to read the markets and GDP and promptly give advice on the policy to pursue to stabilize the economy yet a 75 year old man who couldn't improve himself after serving as a military dictator thinks and feel that he can run such a country like a farm ? undecided
Even farms needs better management.
All the people that voted Buhari into power are the real enemies of Nigeria.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by SeverusSnape(m): 8:58am On Nov 24, 2015
Truckpusher:
grin grin grin

My brother laugh wan kill me here.

To share a country with regions that gives out nothing and is not willing to accept any logical change is something you'll never wish for any people.
What you're seeing here is 50 yrs of Northern and South west blind policy of subjugation and greed with a lazy mentality of being over dependent on oil they do not have and can't even manage even as Nigeria belongs to them.
Let us face the music - This is just Osadebe by the time we get to the reggae it would be nasty.
Don't listen to those shouting 16 yrs of PDP as if the structure of the country itself isn't a thing that calls for a major concern.
Let's practice true federalism and let each region develop at their own pace but they said we must die first before we get it.
We won't die - They are already going down economically, and of course we all are on board.
You couldn't have said it better boss. The scales are already falling off the eyes of those "change" chanting Almajiris. grin

I hardly see their comments these days.
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Truth234(m):
Valendo:
Don't say what you don't know. The decision of the govt to fix the naira against the dollar was wrong and counterproductive. Nigeria is a mono product economy. Our major export is crude oil which is not even a refined product. You can only do this when your value of export is at per with the value of import. Virtually everything is wrong with this country and the better way out is true federalism. Let's be sincere with ourselves, this man seems to be confused. You don't rule like a dictator in a democratic system.
Lol..at your "don't say what you don't know". Nigeria is not a mono-product economy rather mono-crude oil economy. If you refined it, its no longer crude oil sir.

You don't understand anything about economic matter. Thanks for the time
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by lastpage: 9:02am On Nov 24, 2015
CyberWolf:
As long as we keep practicing this system of government, we will continue to move in the negative direction. True federalism is the answer but we know the parasitic region that is always against it.. angry
Shut your filthy "Tribalistic Cavity"..


...This post was about "INTERNATIONAL PRICING/SALES of crude Oil, and not about some local riff-raffs like you talking shyte.


BTW: Govt should divert some of this "excess crude" for local consumption.

All we need do is develop our local industries (Petro-Chemical and Refining) to use the excess crude.
We cant be shouting of glut when there is scarcity within the local economy.
Nigerians themselves will buy and consume majority of these supplies.

Inward-looking, is the way to go




Lastpage!
Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 9:03am On Nov 24, 2015
Ioannes:
when our crude sold for $120/barrel we didnt diversify the economy. jonathan and co packed as much as they could with both hands. now crude is around $40/barrel we are expecting a miracle.

time to tighten our belts. turbulence ahead.
Tell Buhari to go and borrow from China say $1trillion. They have excess funds.. Let every Nigerian keep enjoying. When things improve, we pay back. Say when oil hits above $50 a barrel.

Its just that he lacks the management acumen.
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