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| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by CyberWolf: 9:42am On Nov 24, 2015 |
codedguy1:you get the gist my man. All the states are viable but free money from Abuja every month has made us very lazy..Free things breeds laziness and that's the problem of this zoo-like country. Just like the saying goes, necessity is the mother of invention. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by obstead200(m): 9:42am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Jazzlite:[size=14pt]You are sooooo correct. Imagine this stupid APC govt and their minions NNPC (Ibe Kachikwu) telling us that our refineries cannot operate because there is shortage of crude to sell to them. Yet we have unsold crude for 2 months. Yet Nigerians are groaning under the weight of fuel scarcity. Thunder fire not only APC but that cabal that is holding this country hostage.[/size] However, some traders are of the view that refinery margins remained positive still, with gasoline demand in Nigeria itself helping to support European and United States’ refining margins, and buyers in California and Asia also keen to import more gasoline. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by judiciarypalava: 9:45am On Nov 24, 2015 |
The opposite of good luck is what we are facing. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Kay17: 9:46am On Nov 24, 2015 |
CyberWolf:That is not true. China is not federalist state yet had a diversified economy whilst Switzerland a so called true federalist state is not diversified in its constituent regional economies. You have been fed on lies. Now imagine you open a company in Nigeria like Nairabet or a sales company, you could be liable for taxes in all the states and occur double taxation. Or a power company dealing with 36 different legal and tax regimes, business must be really easy |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by ODUBEZE: 9:46am On Nov 24, 2015 |
IzonOwei:Most of our Senators and House of rep. are only after salary! They are not professionals! Look at Sen. Bukola Saraki, he was trained in the medical field! Is the medical field feeling his impact? Has he made law(s) beneficiary to the masses in that regard? So also is very many of them. All they do is to attend parties and snap pictures. The owambe people! All these fall in economy no really concern them, they are in money, investors with our money and own chains of business. Only God can save us. It is well! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Adminisher: 9:48am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Naughtysite:Management acumen is not a requirement for President. No Nigerian leader had management apart from Awo and Obj. Awo's own was natural talent, he was running Nigeria for Gowon. Obj's own was to put his nose into everything going on in government and bully everybody on every small thing. Presidency requires "leadership acumen" , vision, vision communication and performance monitoring of the managers below the President who are mainly ministers and Perm Secs. USA has had very good presidents who were soldiers, lawyers and even an actor and they did well. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by CyberWolf: 9:48am On Nov 24, 2015 |
kayusely:when you say parliamentary system, what do you mean? |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Ephemmm: 9:51am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Omenkata:I do not need to consult Ifa to ascertain that your brain needs re-formatting ![]() |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by ahaika23: 9:52am On Nov 24, 2015 |
This is coming at no better time. ![]() |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Adminisher: 9:52am On Nov 24, 2015 |
kayusely:That is it. The ONLY TRUTH came in only one sentence. God bless you for this contribution. There is nothing wrong with Nigeria when it was the real Nigeria. The Nigeria of the 60s before we let the military monkey with it. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by francizy(m): 9:59am On Nov 24, 2015 |
refreshrate:LoL! Feel free to copy, edit and repost with/without referencing.. Go ahead it's free from me to my countrymen! ![]() You wan run commot from Nigeria ni? Me will remain here to see this to it's end.. ![]() |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by CyberWolf: 10:00am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Kay17:take USA as a model..true federalism will make every state self sufficient without depending on FG. The issue of we can't pay salary or we are marginalized will die a natural death. Do you get that into your head? |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Coolcash1: 10:05am On Nov 24, 2015 |
francizy:I didn't want to respond to your very bias, dumb, and retrogressive comment but compelled to in order to set the record straight. Especially, to help the sensible ones know the truth. I know you must belong to Party Destruction Party for this hateful post. The fact is, your party and especially GEJ put the country in this whole mess. The ripple effects if erroneous and in ceremonial economic and fiscal policies of his government has thrown us into this precarious situation. While I don't want to get to personal or sound partisan, the truth is had the previous president got involved in the management of the economy and painstakingly works himself through the economic numbers and stats better understanding would have been gotten and proper direction provided for Okonjo Iweala and his economic team. Back to PMB, his government just came on board seven months ago and we are witnessing a carryover effect of his predecessor's failure and you are now RUNNING your mouth blaming the innocent man. That said, the big question is how do we move forward as a nation. The minister of finance already has her work cut out for her and honestly I don't envy her job right now. God bless Nigeria! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by MrEverest(m): 10:06am On Nov 24, 2015 |
lastpage:Ignorance At Its Peak! D SE Will Be The Least Affected Of All D Regions In Nigeria While The SW Along With D North Will Be The Most Affected & I Will Give U Reasons. (1)Osun Was The 1st State To Go Bankrupt. (2) Ogun Is Already Talking About 3rd Bail-out Fund From CBN. (3) Anambra Is Not Owing Workers A Dime, The State Even Increased The Minimum Wage.(4)Enugu has d highest non oil IGR. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Dee60: 10:06am On Nov 24, 2015 |
989900:You have made a very good point. However, please subject it to the W test. WHO will build the refinery? FG? No way. They will build and paralyze it. Government CANNOT run any business. Private sector? Go and ask Dangote if there is any headway with the Lekki Refinery! WHAT - For what? You mentioned export. Dont forget the law of competitive advantage. You can only export where your production price is much lower than other exporting countries. So, how do you achieve low production cost where everything thing is so expensive and where government is either FINING you or taxing you to coma? Go and ask MTN and the banks. WHERE - In the north? That will be a big joke. In South East? Or South South? Ok, maybe in the South West. I pray o. For now, investors only trade in the stock exchange where they can sell within 24 hours and pick race. We have to pray o. We are a bit far from El Dorado. The fact that government at al levels are not shwoing any sense of direction create more fears than hopes. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by francizy(m): 10:06am On Nov 24, 2015 |
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| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Coolcash1: 10:12am On Nov 24, 2015 |
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| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by lastpage: 10:15am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Truckpusher:YOUR "IGNORANCE" IS AN ILLUSION OF KNOWLEDGE! Your problems are deep-rooted! ![]() Let me quote a "notable" Ibo person for you: [quote author=Chief of Army staff General IHEJIRIKA (Rtd)]WROTE ON HIS FACEBOOK WALL : "FOOLISH" IS NOT IGBO!!! For 6 years our own (Igbo) occupied the offices of Deputy Senate President, Deputy Speaker, SGF, Minister of Finance /Coordinating Minister of the Nigerian Economy, Ministers of Health, Aviation, Labour, Petroleum (by Marriage), Chief of Army Staff e.t.c yet nobody complained that the Igbos got too much of the Federal Power rations neither did your highly placed brethren improve your lot in terms of development! Other ethnic groups watched carefully and played their politics towards national relevance while we the Igbos got carried away and played politics of the pocket where semi-illiterate money bags charted the cause for us! Those who have access to Aso Rock and got fat contracts sustained the lies to hoodwink both Aso Rock Gods and the Igbos In blind response devoid of any logical reasonings the Igbos put all their fragile eggs in one basket that had lost form and shape to protect them. . As the results of those fatal errors set in the same money miss roads are now fanning the ambers of secession as their next meal ticket bargaining chip while the teaming youth they lure with money and lies risk losing everything including their lives for nothing in the end. Compare the Igbo "TAN" money bags and/or failed politicians to the likes of Aliko Dangote, Mike Adenuga, Femi Otedola who are hardly seen or heard playing partisan talk less of ethno-religious politics! Imagine Dangote gathering the leaders of Northerners in Lagos and imposing political party or candidate in Lagos State politics on them. Such is near impossible! The Igbos have allowed derogatory pocket politics to puncture their natural nobility as a people! With men of honour and class like Ebitu Ukaiwe, Emeka Anyaoku, Ndubisi Kanu, Ben Nwabueze and others the Igbos should have no business listening to the likes of Ifeanyi Uba (Capital Oil), Chris Uba etc any time they talk politics! "Foolish" is not IGBO!!![/quote]I know you are not to be classified as "intelligent" by any stretch of imagination so you might have difficulty comprehending what Ihijerika was alluding to! Let me also help you with What General Gowon said, just immediately after the Civil War: General Gowon: The Yiibos will be treated as equal citizens of this country...... UNLESS BY THEIR OWN BEHAVIOUR, THEY ACT AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. (8:30 seconds on the tape) - General Yakubu Gowon, Nigeria's head of State!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfAVrh06fA You people can continue to wallow in IGNORANCE, SELF DELUSION GRANDEUR and SELF-DECEIT...... that is your cup of Tea! "Reality" ..... is Reality! ![]() Now, sod-off, effing mo.ron! Lastpage! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 10:19am On Nov 24, 2015 |
stickncarrot:I must start a business that gets paid in dollars.. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by MrEverest(m): 10:29am On Nov 24, 2015 |
MrEverest:(5)SE Region Recieves The Highest Amount Of Remmitance Coming To Nigeria. (6)Igbos Control Business/commerce & indigenous Manufacturing In Nigeria.(7) Igbos Are The Least Dependent On Government.( Igbos Are Hard Working, Versatile & Egaliterian In Nature, They Survived A Blockade How Much More A Reccession.(9) Igbos Have A Comparatively High GDP both in the SE & elsewhere in Nigeria. (10) Be Rest Assured That Igbos Will Be The Last Man Standing When You All Will Be Dying Of Starvation!!! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by dragunov: 10:40am On Nov 24, 2015 |
saintgoogle:IPOB does not have oil. The SS region does and its not part of Biafra. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 10:42am On Nov 24, 2015 |
InvertedHammer:Same refinery OBJ wanted selling along with NITEL and NEPA, but Nigerians opposed it. Same refinery kachikwu has asked Buhari to sell but he said over his dead body. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by lastpage: 10:46am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Dee60: I disagree with the notion that "Government cannot run any business successfully"! Maybe we should "qualify" that statement by saying "A BAD/CORRUPT GOVT cannot run any business successfully? The U.K has built Refineries, it is currently building a Nuclear Power plant, same goes for France and many other countries. These are also "Govt"! The difference therein, is our own LEVEL OF CORRUPTION IN GOVT CIRCLES. Until we give very serious attention to tackling corruption cum Economic Sabotage by imposing the DEATH PENALTY, as done in countries like China and most of Asia...... we would continue to go in circles Let us also note that the private sector is all about "maximum profit, at the shortest cycle". They are no charity! For capital intensive projects like Power, Steel, Petrochemical to some extent, whose "payback cycle" runs into 50years and above, you will hardly get a Private Company investing into such because they cant wait for that long to recoup their investment. Such Capital intensive ventures are "first" funded and built by Govt (using tax payers money and National Income) ...and then "sold to privates hands" FOR MANAGEMENT in short cycles (say ten year cycles) so that Govt can recoup its own investments back, bit by bit because Govt is a "continuum". Did you notice that it was Govt that built virtually anything of intensive Capital in Nigeria and most where done under the military regime where the "political will" was there? Talk of 3rd Mainland Bridge, Abuja capital City, All the refineries, Steel Mills, e.t.c Even the 2nd Niger Bridge used to hoodwink the Ibo peeps by GEJ is still a phantom project! ![]() Take electric power for example: After ceaseless "privatisation and Discos there and there".... we are yet to see a single private investor who has contributed just half of what the previous NEPA/ECN contributed to the National grid. All we have are pockets of micro-power generators that are made to specifically power a single project! Only the Federal Govt can build a substantial Power station of say 3,000MW in one go All these noise about foreign investors coming-in over the years, ...is a SCAM As for "WHAT", with a large population of almost 180Million, we should focus more on our "internal markets and consumption". When we build a Refinery, l am sure there would be no shortage of consumption for the output, within Nigeria. Our problem lies in trying to export "Unprocessed, raw material goods", from Cocoa, to Coffeee, to Crude oil, to Bitumen, e.t.c. Raw Materials cost less, are subject to buyer's manipulation of the markets and does not add much value to the producer's economy. On "Where", l think the best option is to build such refinery close to the source of "raw material"..... which means in the South South. But there us an "element of caution" here: With the Ibos playing "spoilers' and trying to annexe the Niger Delta into their Biafra project, l bet anyone who is President would think twice before putting all the nation's resources in one area! ... just in-case the unexpected happens. This is why you see a refinery in Kaduna and the raw material have to be transported "uneconomically" through pipes, all the way to the refinery, from down South. That is just the REALITY and we should not deceive ourselves thinking those who make such decisions are "not guided" properly. ![]() The last Civil war instigated by these same Easterners, was an eye-opener. Finally, Oil Blocs are no longer peculiar to a particular region of Nigeria though some are more "economically viable" than others. Moreso, the price of Oil and the future of Oil as a major export earner is increasingly under threat and as such, it may finally be a non-variable in the balance of power equation, in not too distant future Lastpage! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by lastpage: 10:50am On Nov 24, 2015 |
MrEverest:Yet, after all the above "ridiculous lies".... the place looks ravaged with Erosion and Gullys? *85% of its "natives" are refugees in other states? ![]() *You mean Enugu has more IGR than Lagos! C'mmon, this "Delusion of Grandeur proportions" is not funny! ![]() "A Pig, whatever it is adorned with, will still be a PIG"! ![]() Lastpage! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by Nobody: 10:51am On Nov 24, 2015 |
lastpage:Inward looking in what sense ? When you dont have a funtioning refinery. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by lastpage: 10:54am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Naughtysite:Inward-looking means "policy and actions that puts the local market as priority! This means instead of, for example, developing "Export Infrastructure" for crude, we should be investing in building local refineries! just to mention one example. Lastpage! |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by babestella: 10:55am On Nov 24, 2015 |
Hahaha, APC change. We are being ruled by eediots right now, we will only get out of this stew.pidity after 2019. For now we have to live by the choice made by the illiterate population we have in Nigeria who have successfully voted in their president to lead Nigeria. |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by 989900: 10:57am On Nov 24, 2015 |
wiseoneking: Read my post again. Who implied the present refineries? We are not even talking about local consumption here, rather, exporting refined products -- we'r talking big business, as far back as '91/'92 we were raking in hundreds of millions of dollars in refined products exports. No one is implying the government building or running the process/re-generation, rather, establishing policies, creating and maintaining an enabling environment . . . PPP does help too. BTW, how does diversification warant shutting down the oil industry? Would expanding, re-creating/re-generating the oil industry mean we are handicapped to diversify? |
| Re: Economic Woes Heighten As Buyers Shun Nigerian Crude by saintgoogle(m): 10:57am On Nov 24, 2015 |
pasol4real:You are a true definition of stupidity Gold in southwest Oil in some part of southwest Tin bitumen in the north Cocoa in southwest Groundnut in the north Bro you need to be lectured |
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Charity begins at home... This is what happens when you refuse to put your home in order... By having a full refining capacity for all grades of PMS for your local consumption and even entire West African needs! But instead chose to propp up foreign refineries and keep them afloat! May the glut quadruple IJN.
This is coming at no better time. 

Igbos Are Hard Working, Versatile & Egaliterian In Nature, They Survived A Blockade How Much More A Reccession.(9) Igbos Have A Comparatively High GDP both in the SE & elsewhere in Nigeria. (10) Be Rest Assured That Igbos Will Be The Last Man Standing When You All Will Be Dying Of Starvation!!!