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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 8:43pm On Dec 06, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Which Igbo is that? Are you believing this lies? Go check, the SS wanted 25% in the 1994 Abacha Conference. We pushed for 25% and NOT 13%.


No igboman pushed for it on our behalf!
You pushed for 25% it wasn't granted...
Who then pushed in support for the 13% oil derivation that was granted then?

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by kidgod: 8:44pm On Dec 06, 2015
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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:45pm On Dec 06, 2015
VickJames:


I think you are vast with what is happening in the world and we can go ahead to analyse what is happening.


you clamour for resource control, have your clamour reached the 8th house?

the clamour for resource control is dead on arrival until the 5 people giving the mining contract start bring the same amount of money from solid minerals as they get from oil.

you and i know that they will not consider that until it is not necessary to hold on to oil anymore.

so, you guys are still helpless.

next time, start writing letters for resource control so that we will know that you guys are still fighting.

see the rubbish this one is saying.....

we cbattled for resource control, they refused to give us anything before, but now we have NDDC and Derivation which we expect to rise in the coming future..

or what else is resource control to you?
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:47pm On Dec 06, 2015
CreampieAngela:
I am not suprised. Students of history will know how Nnamdi Azikiwe frustrated the demand of the Niger Delta minorities.
We know how the igbo's vehemently rejected the establishment of the 1958 Sir Henry Willink Commission of Enquiry which was charged with the responsibility of addressing the fears of the Niger Delta minorities.

Pre-indepent Nigeria, the Niger Delta minorities argued that they do not want to be part of an independent Nigeria. They asserted that the treaties the British signed with their fathers does not include lumping them together with other tribes in Nigeria, but Alas ! An igbo man Nnamdi Azikiwe, under the cloak of ''Nationalism'' convinced the British to ignore the demand of the Niger Delta minorities

As far as they are concerened, you are a war booty to them. As far as the Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa are concerened, those of us from the minority tribe are inconsequental in the scheme of things
It will be a gross mistake for any group to see ethnic minorities as inconsequential at this present time. It be better we all respect ourselves

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:47pm On Dec 06, 2015
YoundDoctor:

You pushed for 25% it wasn't granted...
Who then pushed in support for the 13% derivation that was granted then?

and you think we won't push for 25%?

secondly do you even know NDDC's budget?

if you take into account 13% plus NDDC you have way more than 13% resource control..

go and read
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 8:48pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


[b]ken sawo wiwa is Igbo?

Obong Victor Atta is Igbo?


Peter odili is Igbo?

Ita Giwa is igbo?


never knew..

If Peter odili is not Igbo, then who is he?
Meanwhile after all the brouhaha of ken sawo wiwa what did he bring to the table...? Nothing.
Other names except of this two names, I don't recognise. Who are they?
And who pushed for support of the 13% oil derivation giving to oil states.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by VickJames(m): 8:48pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


see the rubbish this one is saying.....

we cbattled for resource control, they refused to give us anything before, but now we have NDDC and Derivation which we expect to rise in the coming future..

or what else is resource control to you?

The truth is that if things will get better, you will start seeing it now.

please, tell yourself the truth. when will you have the license to any oil well in your region?

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 8:49pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


and you think we won't push for 25%?

secondly do you even know NDDC's budget?

if you take into account 13% plus NDDC you have way more than 13% resource control..

go and read

Sire am judging on the facts I have seen on ground..
Am not a Niger delta minister to have all those details..
If there is anything am missing...
Am ready to learn, bring it on the table. Let's discuss.
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:50pm On Dec 06, 2015
YoundDoctor:


If Peter odili is not Igbo then is who?
Meanwhile after all the brouhaha of ken sawo wiwa what did he bring to the table...?
Other names except of this two names, I don't recognise. Who are they?
And who pushed for support of the 13% derivation giving to oil states.

[size=15pt]if you dont know Obong Victor Attah, SHAME ON YOU!!!!

One of the men who fought for our rights and you don't know, ex governor of akwa ibom and you don't know

now who is the ignorant one?
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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2015
VickJames:

I think you are vast with what is happening in the world and we can go ahead to analyse what is happening.
you clamour for resource control, have your clamour reached the 8th house?
the clamour for resource control is dead on arrival until the 5 people giving the mining contract start bring the same amount of money from solid minerals as they get from oil.
you and i know that they will not consider that until it is not necessary to hold on to oil anymore.
so, you guys are still helpless.
next time, start writing letters for resource control so that we will know that you guys are still fighting.
I still don't know your point. It is an open secret that the demand for resource control is still fresh.


PS: You keep bringing North into this. The demand for SNC is to the State not the north.
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:51pm On Dec 06, 2015
VickJames:


The truth is that if things will get better, you will start seeing it now.

please, tell yourself the truth. when will you have the license to any oil well in your region?

[size=14pt]Things are already getting better

go to Akwa ibom

no Infrastructure back in 1998, but now leading the whole Niger Delta including south east in infrastructure...

Mbok..
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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Sweetguy25: 8:52pm On Dec 06, 2015
Ignorant - Not knowing, acknowledging and appreciating the level of damage and destruction the Nigerian state has done on the wealth and society of the Niger Delta minority tribes.

Helplessness: Not knowing where and how to effectively solicit help and support to stop the Nigerian state from further stealing the wealth of the Niger Delta minority tribes and the destruction of their environment.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:53pm On Dec 06, 2015
VickJames:


The truth is that if things will get better, you will start seeing it now.

please, tell yourself the truth. when will you have the license to any oil well in your region?
OML only benefit the holders and their families. We want resource control that will benefit everyone in the region NOT OML.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by VickJames(m): 8:53pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


[size=14pt]Things are already getting better

go to Akwa ibom

no Infrastructure back in 1998, but now leading the whole Niger Delta including south east in infrastructure...

Mbok..
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Leave Uyo and go to Oron villages and see what poverty is saying to the people.

I have a soft spot for the akwa ibomites, i dont want to argue about the people, please bring other states please.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 8:53pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


if you dont know Obong Victor Attah, SHAME ON YOU!!!!

One of the men who fought for our rights and you don't know, ex governor of akwa ibom and you don't know

now who is the ignorant one?



No shame on me, BC he didn't fight for my right...
If you can't identify him... So be it..
I don't even care to know him and is not a must.
As all my awards and achievements are still with me and me not knowing him doesn't make me loose my achievements and awards.
Xo bleep him nigga.. May be when I need current affairs I may need to know him... But I don't give a shit

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by explorer250(m): 8:54pm On Dec 06, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

I still don't understand what your problem is. You talked about Odi but you forgot what pre-empt FG action(perhaps you don't know). Though I Condemn the action of both the criminals in Odi and the FG in strong terms.

What is your business and problem with who owns oil licence? Oil licence is simply a meal ticket for government allies and their corrupt friends. Our Demand is RESOURCE CONTROL not a common OML.

Whoever call Jonathan drunk fisherman is referring to Jonathan. The election is OVER and we have moved on to the next phase.

I don't know how the above makes one helpless. If you are 'helpful' why not stage a showdown with FG?
but the igbos are helpful thats the reason for our showdown with the fgn

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:55pm On Dec 06, 2015
YoundDoctor:

You pushed for 25% it wasn't granted...
Who then pushed in support for the 13% derivation that was granted then?
Who is that Igboman that pushed for 13%? I have told you severally that Niger Deltans pushed for Niger Delta demands.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:55pm On Dec 06, 2015
YoundDoctor:


Sire am judging on the facts I have seen on ground..
Am not a Niger delta minister to have all those details..
If there is anything am missing...
Am ready to learn, bring it on the table. Let's discuss.


[size=13pt]Look, this is Africa and this is Nigeria...

Things wont change overnight...

lets use my state Akwa ibom for example..

back in 1998, the capital Uyo was a glorified shithole..but thanks to the efforts of our South South brothers, we got our derivation which was not what we wanted, but we also got a commission to build infrastructure that commision names is NDDC..

now it wont remain at 13% forever, even the Fulanis and the Niger Delta slaves like Rotimi Ameachi know this, we would clamour for more, as long as Buhari ignores the confab report we would cry for more..

so now we are stuck with 13% derivation and an EXTRA Investment Fund into our people and development in the name of NDDC
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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:57pm On Dec 06, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Who is that Igboman that pushed for 13%? I have told you severally that Niger Deltans pushed for Niger Delta demands.
No Igbo Man pushed for the 13% , they know it, they are just bringing up lies..

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 8:57pm On Dec 06, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Who is that Igboman that pushed for 13%? I have told you severally that Niger Deltans pushed for Niger Delta demands.

Niger deltans constitute of Igbo originalities too..
Why not be objective and mention the name of the person to bare... Avoid all this speculations as it doesn't help in any way.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:57pm On Dec 06, 2015
Kingsolex1:
Brother how far long time.
Baba I de o. How your side na?
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 8:59pm On Dec 06, 2015
YoundDoctor:


Niger deltans constitute of Igbo originalities too..
Why not be objective and mention the name of the person to bare... Avoid all this speculations as it doesn't help in any way.

PLS MENTION THE IGBO MAN THAT PUSHED FOR IT!!

SINCE ME and TonyeBarcanista obviously don't know him
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ichukwu48: 9:01pm On Dec 06, 2015
I'll say the truth and I don't care which ever NL politicians it goads.

SS is helpless and ignorant.

Everyone in SS, at least I'll say delta..idk about other groups, are aware what groups fill the job in all oil companies in delta state. We are aware which communities hold the highest block of oil in each field and till date, NONE have done anything about it instead most just whin about it.

Many sit down and create militants to try and get a small portion of what rightfully belongs to each region with zero advancement made. 13% derivation is not even anything to be proud of because with the amount of river pollution, air pollution, etc done in SS over the oil drilling is a huge slap to the groups suffering it.

Not only that, other south south minorities destroy the effort of the other groups seeking to fix their situations.

Ogoni have repeatedly begged to be removed from Nigeria and allowed to govern themselves BY THEMSELVES. The only people deliberately destroying their effort and disregarding them, even though ogoni have experienced the worst in SS, are other southern minorities in River state

The Ndoki and Egbema have repeatedly asked to be moved back to Imo and Abia state in order to reduce the marginalization they receive in River state, the group destroying their effort is yet again the SS minorities of River state.

Let's not forget...all freedom fighters of SS, from Asari, to tompolo, etc are repeatedly attacked by some for fighting for their rights.

The people fighting against those wanting to fix their situation in SS is always been other SS groups.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by VickJames(m): 9:03pm On Dec 06, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

OML only benefit the holders and their families. We want resource control that will benefit everyone in the region NOT OML.

Do you know the number of people who have shares under this OML, the number of people who enjoy from this license?

do you know how many people they pay salaries from this OML?

the truth is that, you just want to downplay the importance of this OML and make look as if it is nothing.

check the cabals in this country, most of them are from the north and southwest. so when do you think these people will release their hands from this funds.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:04pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:



Look, this is Africa and this is Nigeria...

Things wont change overnight...

lets use my state Akwa ibom for example..

back in 1998, the capital Uyo was a glorified shithole..but thanks to the efforts of our South South brothers, we got our derivation which was not what we wanted, but we also got a commission to build infrastructure that commision names is NDDC..

now it wont remain at 13% forever, even the Fulanis and the Niger Delta slaves like Rotimi Ameachi know this, we would clamour for more, as long as Buhari ignores the confab report we would cry for more..

so now we are stuck with 13% derivation and an EXTRA Investment Fund into our people and development in the name of NDDC

Is that so?
And how are you going to achieve this...?
BC it seems you folks are contradicting yourself in the said Niger delta...
You didn't ask for 13% oil derivation, who then asked for it?
And how do you think the government will listen to you as they have never done anything you have asked for in Democratic settings..

One thing I do know is that you can't overshadow the rest of Nigerians... If you people continue this way, there will be nothing for you guys Till Nigeria ends.
Why will you be asking for special treatment? are you guys the only citizens we have in Nigeria ?

I rest my case but I don't think anybody will listen to you selfish folks. Jonathan that was from ND couldn't even help... Smh. Yeye dey smell.

I see helplessness bro.

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by explorer250(m): 9:04pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


ken sawo wiwa is Igbo?

Obong Victor Atta is Igbo?


Peter odili is Igbo?

Ita Giwa is igbo?


never knew..
yeah peter odili is an igbo man that is proud of his identity. but these names you mentioned are not behind the 13% derivation which every oil produding states fought for including igbos. it was as a result of the militant arms struggle which every oil producing state was part of

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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:05pm On Dec 06, 2015
ichukwu48:
I'll say the truth and I don't care which ever NL politicians it goads.

SS is helpless and ignorant.

Everyone in SS, at least I'll say delta..idk about other groups, are aware what groups fill the job in all oil companies in delta state. We are aware which communities hold the highest block of oil in each field and till date, NONE have done anything about it instead most just whin about it.

Many sit down and create militants to try and get a small portion of what rightfully belongs to each region with zero advancement made. 13% derivation is not even anything to be proud of because with the amount of river pollution, air pollution, etc done in SS over the oil drilling is a huge slap to the groups suffering it.

Not only that, other south south minorities destroy the effort of the other groups seeking to fix their situations.

Ogoni have repeatedly begged to be removed from Nigeria and allowed to govern themselves BY THEMSELVES. The only people deliberately destroying their effort and disregarding them, even though ogoni have experienced the worst in SS, are other southern minorities in River state

The Ndoki and Egbema have repeatedly asked to be moved back to Imo and Abia state in order to reduce the marginalization they receive in River state, the group destroying their effort is yet again the SS minorities of River state.

Let's not forget...all freedom fighters of SS, from Asari, to tompolo, etc are repeatedly attacked by some for fighting for their rights.

The people fighting against those wanting to fix their situation in SS is always been other SS groups
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what kind of rubbish talk is this again..

first you make up a lie of SS bringing SS down, you now go on and mention Asari and Tompolo..bunch of Privateers..

when Obong Victor Attah was campaigning for creation of NDDC, Tompolo was bursting pipelines.....

we SS likes our peaceful freedom fighters..
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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:06pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:

No Igbo Man pushed for the 13% , they know it, they are just bringing up lies..
I think he's the person.
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:07pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:

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what kind of rubbish talk is this again..

first you make up a lie of SS bringing SS down, you now go on and mention Asari and Tompolo..bunch of Privateers..

when Obong Victor Attah was campaigning for creation of NDDC, Tompolo was bursting pipelines.....

we SS likes our peaceful freedom fighters..
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You forget to mention the Ministry of ND Affairs... Though they aren't enough
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:08pm On Dec 06, 2015
vladimiros:


PLS MENTION THE IGBO MAN THAT PUSHED FOR IT!!

SINCE ME and TonyeBarcanista obviously don't know him

Thank you. Gotten what I want.. Now am done with this argument.

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