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Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 11:02pm On Dec 08, 2015
frisky2good:
Since you are not sure how did you come up with a stupid calculation? If you want to learn you have to be humble. Your arrogance only confirms your stu.pidity. Go back to your APC school of propaganda. I'm not educated but I know OBJ regime subsidised fuel price but you the educated one doesn't know. Guess what, whoever paid for your education wasted precious money that would have been more useful if spent on beer.
If you are so sure there was subsidy then state exactly the subsidy figure or at the very least provide evidence of a subsidy regime during that period instead of dancing ariund the issue in the typical moronic manner. I said to the best of my knowledge there was no subsidy "correct me if I am wrong" because I was never aware of any subsidy, I am only replying for the sake of other members as you are obviously a nit wit and I will not engage you any further unless you provide evidence of the subsidy
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by adconline(m): 11:02pm On Dec 08, 2015
adeyemi2015:
We shouldn't play politics with every national issue pls! Re-introduction of Tolls should be a welcome idea!
The most important thing is; ensuring the proper management of funds generated through the Tolls as well as timely maintenance of the Country's Highways!
You are the one playing politics. Can he fix all federal roads before introducing tolls? Are we being tolled for using bad roads? Just like he did with Lekki-Epe Rd, which was constructed by Otedola, but dualised by BRF to only Lekki area? What prevented him dualising the entire rd and installing tolls afterward? Why do we want to reap before work? Cancelling subsidy before fixing refineries; Discos charging customers before providing power.. Where is the change??
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Fawklicant: 11:03pm On Dec 08, 2015
OreMI22:
[size=14pt]Toll gates collected by government are simply adding extra layers of corruption to the already massive problem of government bureaucratic corruption.

our roads need to be concession-ed out and tolled, NOT BY GOVERNMENT, but by companies charged directly with maintaining them.

The role of government is simply to supervise that the companies responsible for the roads are repairing those roads as they said they will.


Government will collect tolls, pay some into their account and use the rest for staff salaries. then when the roads breakdown, there are no funds to fix them because the collected toll has already been spent on frivolities.[/size]
There's hardly anywhere in tne world I know where govt concessons roads it already built to a private entity. What they do is they ask you to build entirely new roads with shorter routes or new roads linking new communities and then you toll only after you have completed the construction. When our govt imports foreign ideas, they tend to twist it to serve themselves, because the average Nigerian hardly knows better.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by WOCKHARDI(m): 11:06pm On Dec 08, 2015
Wasn't it under the military dictators that these toll gates were put up in the first place before OBJ dismantled them during his second missionary journey?
So Fash and the Oga at the top want to take us back to the military dictatorship era. It's not going to work.
Imagine how much a driver traveling from Lagos to any of the Eastern states - say Rivers - will end up paying whereas almost all Westerners who normally don't like to travel outside their region will have much much less tolls to contend with. It's unfair.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by micayo(m): 11:11pm On Dec 08, 2015
baby124:
Well every sane country has tolls. It will also limit the criminals that travel from place to place to rob for Christmas. When they think about the fare, they will go and find better work. Plus where is the money for taking care of the roads or building? Every state should have toll. Though the toll should not be an outrageous amount and there should be alternative route. I also think the road networks should be reviewed. For a country like Nigeria, going by road shouldn't take as long as it does. I don't think we are using a good or efficient road network as of now.
Every 'sane' country federal road doesn't have a toll Mr Baby (shows you really need schooling). Why do we pay tax? If our tax isn't for this then why should we be paying tax? Its not like there is any social welfarism program on ground yet and the only provision we as citizens are meant to benefit from, free road network, we still get deprived of it and f00lish men with little or no future like you see nothing wrong with it. Well I know your type, hypocrite of the highest order. F00lish being

I don't know how toll would stop criminal from crossing from one state or place to another. Criminals that are going to steal millions would be discouraged by N100, abeg na security checkpoint. You are really a dumbfuCker. You don't have any brain at all. So damn annoying.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Fawklicant: 11:12pm On Dec 08, 2015
lookandlaff:
If you are so sure there was subsidy then state exactly the subsidy figure or at the very least provide evidence of a subsidy regime during that period instead of dancing ariund the issue in the typical moronic manner. I said to the best of my knowledge there was no subsidy "correct me if I am wrong" because I was never aware of any subsidy, I am only replying for the sake of other members as you are obviously a nit wit and I will not engage you any further unless you provide evidence of the subsidy
Brother, you dont have to go gutter like he is doing. Just school him and move on.

Meanwhile, fuel subsidy dates back to 1992 during IBB's regime. He introduced it in April 1992.

http://www.themaceonline.com/house-of-reps-news/241-fuel-subsidy-removal-the-challenge-before-house-committee-on-petroleum-downstream
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 11:14pm On Dec 08, 2015
Fawklicant:
I know you are negotiating a different point, but what I'm saying is this. This proposal has all the trappings of the lekki scenario. This is even worse, as they want to toll already built roads. Probably gonna concesion the maintenance to someone who'd do a wish-washy job of resurfacing the roads and then mount their tolls. Please what are they doing with our taxes?

This is akin to asking us to pay electricity tax while they build the dam that would supply the electricity someday.
Unlike many I am not a fan if fashola and Tinubu but if you want good roads we will have to pay one way or another. Unfortunately this is the environment we live in. I am sick and tired of false hope and promises meanwhile my life ticks along and I ask myself what kind of life is this? i will pay the extra for constant electricity, I will pay the extra for good roads, just get it done so the quality of my life improves. Because guess what we can moan about what govt should do, they don't ply these roads, they don't suffer power outages, they don't send their kids to substandard schools, they don't send their family to govt hospitals. If you are waiting for them to deliver without paying extra what they couldn't deliver when Oil was over $100, now that Oil is $40, history has shown nothing will happen and we will continue to live a life of rats!!!


Just get it done, I don't care how, the good thing about a good road is once it's built, it's built!!!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 11:15pm On Dec 08, 2015
Fawklicant:
Brother, you dont have to go gutter like he is doing. Just school him and move on.

Meanwhile, fuel subsidy dates back to 1992 during IBB's regime. He introduced it in April 1992.

http://www.themaceonline.com/house-of-reps-news/241-fuel-subsidy-removal-the-challenge-before-house-committee-on-petroleum-downstream
Thanks for that, I stand corrected
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by SleekyPosh(m): 11:17pm On Dec 08, 2015
Ecoplexus:
Sai Bo(o)hari
Sai Shange
Looool....Some heartless Shii dere mehn...Laila!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by adconline(m): 11:20pm On Dec 08, 2015
Fawklicant:
There's hardly anywhere in tne world I know where govt concessons roads it already built to a private entity. What they do is they ask you to build entirely new roads with shorter routes or new roads linking new communities and then you toll only after you have completed the construction. When our govt imports foreign ideas, they tend to twist it to serve themselves, because the average Nigerian hardly knows better.
Thank. Sane and organised govts build new roads and install tolls while Naija corrupt govts impose tolls on already dilapidated roads and reward their cronies with rigged toll collection
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by adconline(m): 11:24pm On Dec 08, 2015
lookandlaff:
Unlike many I am not a fan if fashola and Tinubu but if you want good roads we will have to pay one way or another. Unfortunately this is the environment we live in. I am sick and tired of false hope and promises meanwhile my life ticks along and I ask myself what kind of life is this? i will pay the extra for constant electricity, I will pay the extra for good roads, just get it done so the quality of my life improves. Because guess what we can moan about what govt should do, they don't ply these roads, they don't suffer power outages, they don't send their kids to substandard schools, they don't send their family to govt hospitals. If you are waiting for them to deliver without paying extra what they couldn't deliver when Oil was over $100, now that Oil is $40, history has shown nothing will happen and we will continue to live a life of rats!!!


Just get it done, I don't care how, the good thing about a good road is once it's built, it's built!!!
Onus is on govt to build new roads before imposing tolls. Do you pay house rent before a house is built? Why do we make silly excuses for govt? Same reason when people protested when GEJ wanted to charge full price on fuel before fixing refineries. We keep choosing easy routes in life and we haven't gotten anywhere!!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 11:33pm On Dec 08, 2015
adconline:
Onus is on govt to build new roads before imposing tolls. Do you pay house rent before a house is built? Why do we make silly excuses for govt? Same reason when people protested when GEJ wanted to charge full price on fuel before fixing refineries. We keep choosing easy routes in life and we haven't gotten anywhere!!
You are arguing a point I am not making, please read my post again. I never said it is right to toll a road before completion, by the way nothing is the press statement said it was the intention of govt to do so. What I said is I will willingly pay higher for good infrastructure including GOOD roads, Reliable electricity etc. Time is the most important asset one has, it's the one thing you can never get back, time spent in traffic is wasted time, if tolling means I get part of my time and life back to do quality things then I'll gladly pay I also do not expect any responsible government to toll a section of a road that is not completed and I do not think this govt will do such.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by frisky2good(m): 11:33pm On Dec 08, 2015
I just dey lookandlaff you. grin
lookandlaff:
If you are so sure there was subsidy then state exactly the subsidy figure or at the very least provide evidence of a subsidy regime during that period instead of dancing ariund the issue in the typical moronic manner. I said to the best of my knowledge there was no subsidy "correct me if I am wrong" because I was never aware of any subsidy, I am only replying for the sake of other members as you are obviously a nit wit and I will not engage you any further unless you provide evidence of the subsidy
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by omojeesu(m): 11:36pm On Dec 08, 2015
Go on soun!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by tega4eddie: 11:39pm On Dec 08, 2015
FASHOLA.... A TINUBU PUPPET
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by OreMI22: 11:47pm On Dec 08, 2015
Fawklicant:
There's hardly anywhere in tne world I know where govt concessons roads it already built to a private entity. What they do is they ask you to build entirely new roads with shorter routes or new roads linking new communities and then you toll only after you have completed the construction. When our govt imports foreign ideas, they tend to twist it to serve themselves, because the average Nigerian hardly knows better.
Bro stop lying.
In the USA, many roads and bridges built by government use private companies to collect toll NOT government employees!

I have also never heard that interstate highways in USA were built by private billionaires and tolled. Stop lying and making things up as if every Nigerian is uninformed like you.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by mkoabiola: 11:50pm On Dec 08, 2015
Is this d change Nigerians voted for?
After paying PIT ,VAT n other levy
Yet apc ar coming with a policy obj aborted,
Well,am waiting for 4 yrs to see d chnge I voted for
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Goodaustin: 12:01am On Dec 09, 2015
Tolling is gud. But we shudnt put d cart before the horse. It is wrong to toll a road which doesn't have an alternate route. If not that will be intimidation.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by sinistermind(m): 1:58am On Dec 09, 2015
[quote author=adeyemi2015 post=40813396]We shouldn't play politics with every national issue pls! Re-introduction of Tolls should be a welcome idea!
[quote]The most important thing is; ensuring the proper management of funds generated through the Tolls as well as timely maintenance of the Country's Highways! I keep on asking where's the money collected on business n company tax for the various national n multi-national companies in the country, which re certainly running into Billions monthly. This toll is another system of legitimate corruption. The lekki toll is still there and the whole issue gradually died down. I will ask, how will dis money be accounted for? We shouldn't keep shut, let's ask relevant questions.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by sinistermind(m): 2:00am On Dec 09, 2015
OreMI22:
Bro stop lying.
In the USA, many roads and bridges built by government use private companies to collect toll NOT government employees!

I have also never heard that interstate highways in USA were built by private billionaires and tolled. Stop lying and making things up as if every Nigerian is uninformed like you.
Gbam!!!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by miqos02(m): 2:30am On Dec 09, 2015
adeyemi2015:
This development is affecting Nigeria as a Whole not Lagos State! Besides he's not the President rather PMB, every decision he's gonna made must be ratified at the FEC!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by BankoleCruise(m): 2:55am On Dec 09, 2015
We have to PAY for Change again?
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Armstrong1975: 4:03am On Dec 09, 2015
the only problem is for tinubu not to turn this toil gate project as money making machine.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Gboliwe: 4:12am On Dec 09, 2015
kelvincoll:
This part caught ma interest. Standardization is key to infrastructural development. When i see d width of some so called federal roads cutting across state i smh as it seems like a bypass built by a local govt chairman. The road linking abia n akwa ibom comes comws to mind.
Surely, you haven't seen the one linking Ondo to Ekiti to Kwara. Abia to AKS is wider (though very very bad) compared to these links I mentioned
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Keneeby(m): 4:23am On Dec 09, 2015
We have good roads here in Akwa Ibom state and the State govt hv not toll any road and the roads are well maintained. Small children in nairaland are celebrating high increase of tax. With all the money budgeted for road construction and maintenance what are they been using the money for? Becos lagos tolled their roads does not mean all the roads in the country should be tolled. Lagos is the most corrupt State in Nigeria. With all the Internal and federal Revenue Allocations to the State they still have minds to toll road again. And some small children here are celebrating.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by arresa: 4:38am On Dec 09, 2015
asuustrike2009:
The miracle working Fashola did same thing in Lagos and the rest is a story. You talk as if you are not in Nigeria where politicians keep deceiving people with policies that are not idealistic. First and foremost, the roads should be in good shape before imposing road tax on it's citizens. This is not Uk where they solely depend on tax to survive moreover their government had already make such amenity before it implemented it. That Fashola provided 24/7 electricity to selected project isn't a yardstick for him to wake up from his slumber an impose road tax or even think of it. Do you know the effect of such policies that will cost Nigerians? Common subsidy removal that the previous administration did, 80% of Nigerians wailed up to a point that the price of things went up. You think road transport owners wouldn't inflate their price thereby causing inflation? Or you think market men and women wouldn't add hike on transport to what they purchased?.
A government doesn't wake from the moon to implement policies without looking at the side effect just like the way GEJ did in January 2012.
asuustrike2009:
Biafra republic
Based on the above quote of yours, there's absolutely zero point in getting into any form of discussion with you and your kind and I'm not even interested.


You have a biafra and anti Nigeria mentality so why engage you and your kind in any sane and rational conversation about Nigeria.

Worry about your biafra and let Nigerians worry about Nigeria.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 5:37am On Dec 09, 2015
lookandlaff:
I don't think anybody would dare tax motorists on a poor road without 1st reconstructing the road.

Also I was with you on the sham called the lekki-Epe toll till I realised the contract for the road and the toll collection was packaged under Tinubu.
its so pathetic...
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 5:46am On Dec 09, 2015
frisky2good:
Do you know why this comment is not getting too many likes? It's because most people in Nigeria are blind followers of these blood sucking politicians. Just wait until they tell us that the toll gates will not be managed by FG but by party bosses that will pay 500 thousand Naira per year to FG for running a toll gate at Shagamu.
he problemis because it is fashola so the plan becomes a holy plan blessed in heaven..they forget that this same fashola and his old freind tinubu has and is still scamming lagos along the lekki epe road...

I have said let true fiscal federalism take the stand so that we avoid all this one man show my people no go gree...

We would end up paying exorbitant amounts at the tolls like fools just as we collectively pay in lagos like idiots whilst suffocating in traffic jam because of the body hugged roads and no alternate roads...... angry
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by arresa: 5:58am On Dec 09, 2015
IzonOwei:
h[b]e problemis because it is fashola so the plan becomes a holy plan blessed in heaven..they forget that this same fashola and his old freind tinubu has and is still scamming lagos along the lekki epe road...[/b]

I have said let true fiscal federalism take the stand so that we avoid all this one man show my people no go gree...

We would end up paying exorbitant amounts at the tolls like fools just as we collectively pay in lagos like idiots whilst suffocating in traffic jam because of the body hugged roads and no alternate roads...... angry
They are scamming Lagos, but they still managed to deliver more infrastructures than all the other states in Nigeria including the FG combined, but your own leaders who are not scamming you have nothing to show for the taxes and allocations they collect on your behalf..

So, who is scamming who. Obviously, you are the one getting scammed...
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 6:07am On Dec 09, 2015
You build road with taxpayers money, then ask him to pay to use the roads.
Fashola and Buhai should build new roads and toll them , not the ones build by Jonathan and others.

By the way, there FAAN Airport/Ikeja Road has been tolled for all ages. What have they been doing with the money.
Nigerians should resist this obnoxious policy, it is a way to compensate politicians who would own the roads and pay peanuts to government.
Poor masses!
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 6:09am On Dec 09, 2015
arresa:
They are scamming Lagos, but they still managed to deliver more infrastructures than all the other states in Nigeria including the FG combined, but your own leaders who are not scamming you have nothing to show for the taxes and allocations they collect on your behalf..

So, who is scamming who. Obviously, you are the one getting scammed...
My friend, just take a trip to Enugu state and see what road network means. Not overhyped and tolled Lafos narrow roads.
Re: Breaking: FG To Re-introduce Tolls – Fashola by Nobody: 6:35am On Dec 09, 2015
You partly remove fuel subsidy then reintroduce toll fees?
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