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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 6:41pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:
You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.
Thank you for taking the words right out of my mind.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 6:41pm On Dec 17, 2015
hariorh:
And while at Porto?
Where is Porto? We dey talk better league. He is a good manager no doubt like Pep, Simeone, Ancelloti and a host of others, but money enhances your skills.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:42pm On Dec 17, 2015
tng:
So how about the FA cup and is it Cup winners Cup? Was that during Roman too?

Truth is we have once more seen player power at play at the club and this is what would keep us in the lower rung for a long time with all of Romans money.

Jose has to take some part of the blame too though. Sad it had to end this way.
Which club doesnt have player power play or which coach hasnt faced player power play
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Dec 17, 2015
coded01:
Simeonelic... grin

Raumdeuter you never answer...

Pep leaving?
Most likely Pep would leave after this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Funjosh(m): 6:44pm On Dec 17, 2015
Still The Best Chelsea Coach I Know sad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 6:45pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Who are the global superstars in Chelsea that are more than we have at Bayern, PSG, Man City man utd.

Simeone, Pep Ancelotti even Pellegrini are all coaches of top clubs, Enrique also

Why is it that only Mourinho gets into open fights with his players

It happened in madrid, It happened in Chelsea. The same Chelsea where he was worshipped and he could do as he wanted

Players are global superstars and would throw tantrums. Ferguson knew when to send out Beckham and Stam and when to literarily beg Ronaldo and Rooney

Pep knew how to call Zlatans or Etoo bluff and how to worship Xavi or Messi
this is a completely pointless post because Mourinho's character is not the reason why he was fired.

Just as Pellegrinil,Ancelotti and co's niceness have not prevented them from the sack.

Why?

Because even though the manager is the least connected member of the team to on pitch results, it's easier to replace him and hope for success borne by change, than it is to sack the player who is actually underperforming on the pitch.

That's player power in a nutshell.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by tng(f): 6:46pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Which club doesnt have player power play or which coach hasnt faced player power play
Majority do but its seems its only in Chelsea and Madrid this frequently happens. Two or three palyers have issues with the manager and boom! he has to be sacked becos its easier
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coded01: 6:48pm On Dec 17, 2015
barackohandso:
Their season is already in shambles. It'll take a miracle for them to end in the top 10 no matter how positively jose's replacement performs
Top 10?

Even Chelsea fans would only dream that...

Surviving Relegation is their top priority now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 6:49pm On Dec 17, 2015
tng:
So how about the FA cup and is it Cup winners Cup? Was that during Roman too?

Truth is we have once more seen player power at play at the club and this is what would keep us in the lower rung for a long time with all of Romans money.

Jose has to take some part of the blame too though. Sad it had to end this way.
How many cups in the 100 years history of the club before Roman came? United, Arsenal and Liverpool were winning the league and some the Champions league and you are talking of FA cup.
I used to be ashamed to admit that money helped us get lot's of trophies but not anymore. Nobody talks of Madrid which spend hundreds of millions every season to compete and yet still come out second best. I like the Roman philosophy - spend the money but you must bring results.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:52pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
this is a completely pointless post because Mourinho's character is not the reason why he was fired.
Just as Pellegrinil,Ancelotti and co's niceness have not prevented them from the sack.
Why?
Because even though the manager is the least connected member of the team to on pitch results, it's easier to replace him and hope for success borne by change, than it is to sack the player who is actually underperforming on the pitch.

That's player power in a nutshell.
You just alluded that its Player power that got him fired and its because the players were at odds with his personalty abi did he sleep with their wife ni?

So his character would be a reason he is fighting with the same players that should get him results either in Madrid or at Chelsea

Coaches get sacked for various reasons, Some for result, some for clashing with management, some for not being fine enough or for coming from a poor background But it seem Mourinho is the only one getting sacked for player sabotage every time.

If you are getting fired from multiple workplace and you claim your colleagues dont like you at Office A, your colleagues dont like you at office B and C then its your character shikena
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coded01: 6:56pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Most likely Pep would leave after this season
Are you ok with Ancelotti? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 7:00pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
Hasnt stopped some coaches doing what? Abi what are you going on about?

Jose has now been sacked from 2 clubs that are notorious for players undermining their manager

Jose is not the first Madrid manager to be sabotaged by his players

He's not the first Chelsea manager to be sabotaged by his players either...
Let me tell you what will happen should Jose take the job at United next season.
He will have 200% of the board's support. He will be allowed to spend 100s of millions.
He will spend 100s of millions of one-time wonders, work-horses and average Joes.

These average Joes will run into the ground for him. The will win the league. United fans will be happy winning the league again, being consistent at the top. Compared to where they have been in recent years, it's glory days again.

He will organize them at back the back. They will be ultra defensive and admirable but as always, very lacklustre going forward.
He will manage to convince them pragmatism wins. He will win the hearts of some.

The next season, the fights will begin. He will take a pop at Wenger and now Chelsea.
He will fight the media, the referees and anyone in between, the moment they lose. Some of his fans will still like him, some will stop.

He will park the bus against Chelsea, City, Arsenal. This is where the anger will begin.
Die-hard United fans will crave expansive football once again. He will not change.
He will not bring any young player through, the work horses will start to fail.

Blaming will begin. He probably finishes the season winning the league again.

Third season, full blown fight against everyone. The workhorses (the usual 11 - the untouchables) stop performing.
United fans demand better football to the eye, despite just winning the league.

More public fights. Blames. Name calling. Fans of other clubs start to hate United because of JM. People call them classless. United's PR suffers a blow. Boards' backing drops to 70% . . . .

Beginning of the end.



Nihilist, what do you think will happen with Jose when he gets to United? Remember that this will a club not notorious for undermining their manager.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by tng(f): 7:03pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:
How many cups in the 100 years history of the club before Roman came? United, Arsenal and Liverpool were winning the league and some the Champions league and you are talking of FA cup.
I used to be ashamed to admit that money helped us get lot's of trophies but not anymore. Nobody talks of Madrid which spend hundreds of millions every season to compete and yet still come out second best. I like the Roman philosophy - spend the money but you must bring results.
Yes I say FA Cup because its a trophy and that negates your earlier comment. Those clubs were winning leagues and what not then because they were the it clubs of the time. True Roman's money has brought success but like you said you can still spend so much and not achieve desired results a la Madrid so its a two way street.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dmcdad: 7:05pm On Dec 17, 2015
barackohandso:
I don show oh. I no fit carry last Be like say na legend week we dey


Where e dey abeg? No time
You no hear say Mouthrinho na Legend for sacking?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dmcdad: 7:05pm On Dec 17, 2015
barackohandso:
After now dem go say our fasting and prayer no dey work. See dem don sack Mourinho now, na one sign of the fasting and prayer be that oh

Cc: dmcdad, pamcode, chelseafan1, coded01, sebod
Gbam! What more can they ask for?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Danhumprey: 7:07pm On Dec 17, 2015
i am still eagerly waiting to read what ibime and griffon has got to say on this issue ooooo! grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:07pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:
You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.
Yet Gullit won the FA Cup

Vialli won the FA Cup, League Cup, European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup.

Dey yarn dey go.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 7:07pm On Dec 17, 2015
nateevs:
Let me tell you what will happen should Jose take the job at United next season.
He will have 200% of the board's support. He will be allowed to spend 100s of millions.
He will spend 100s of millions of one-time wonders, work-horses and average Joes.

These average Joes will run into the ground for him. The will win the league. United fans will be happy winning the league again, being consistent at the top. Compared to where they have been in recent years, it's glory days again.

He will organize them at back the back. They will be ultra defensive and admirable but as always, very lacklustre going forward.
He will manage to convince them pragmatism wins. He will win the hearts of some.

The next season, the fights will begin. He will take a pop at Wenger and now Chelsea.
He will fight the media, the referees and anyone in between, the moment they lose. Some of his fans will still like him, some will stop.

He will park the bus against Chelsea, City, Arsenal. This is where the anger will begin.
Die-hard United fans will crave expansive football once again. He will not change.
He will not bring any young player through, the work horses will start to fail.

Blaming will begin. He probably finishes the season winning the league again.

Third season, full blown fight against everyone. The workhorses (the usual 11 - the untouchables) stop performing.
United fans demand better football to the eye, despite just winning the league.

More public fights. Blames. Name calling. Fans of other clubs start to hate United because of JM. People call them classless. United's PR suffers a blow. Boards' backing drops to 70% . . . .

Beginning of the end.


.
Bro, you have just summarised my view about Mr Mourinho. This is the reason he never lasted 3 seasons.

This is the complete truth about Mr Mourinho. God bless you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:11pm On Dec 17, 2015
Danhumprey:
i am still eagerly waiting to read what ibime and griffon has got to say on this issue ooooo! grin
No one can accuse Roman of impatience. . .

Jose is a legend but hubris and pride did for him.

He will be back at Chelsea. . . .

I dey wait to greet my man Hiddink. . .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by weedtaker: 7:12pm On Dec 17, 2015
AlL dis one wey una de talk na story.. I would love to see jose at oLD Trafford in the 2017/18 season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by coded01: 7:21pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Who are the global superstars in Chelsea that are more than we have at Bayern, PSG, Man City man utd.

Simeone, Pep Ancelotti even Pellegrini are all coaches of top clubs, Enrique also

Why is it that only Mourinho gets into open fights with his players

It happened in madrid, It happened in Chelsea. The same Chelsea where he was worshipped and he could do as he wanted

Players are global superstars and would throw tantrums. Ferguson knew when to send out Beckham and Stam and when to literarily beg Ronaldo and Rooney

Pep knew how to call Zlatans or Etoo bluff and how to worship Xavi or Messi
You missing Inter Milan... grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 7:23pm On Dec 17, 2015
barackohandso:
After now dem go say our fasting and prayer no dey work. See dem don sack Mourinho now, na one sign of the fasting and prayer be that oh

Cc: dmcdad, pamcode, chelseafan1, coded01, sebod
I feel you my broda. I dont know y i kinda feel sad for the guy. Anyway i hope d successor can perform d magic needed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 7:23pm On Dec 17, 2015
coded01:
You missing Inter Milan... grin
I knew of the problems he had at Inter and winning that CL was what died everything because he was fighting everyone available

He barely qualified from his CL group sef
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 7:25pm On Dec 17, 2015
[b] Mourinho has turned champions into chumps. Eden Hazard, last season’s playerof the year, has failed to score in 27 games. Diego Costa has forgotten where the goal is, Cesc Fabregas could barely spell the word assist at present and stalwarts like John Terry, Gary Cahill and Branislav Ivanovic look like washed up has-beens.[ /b]

Journalist too get bad mouth grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 7:29pm On Dec 17, 2015
raumdeuter:
Almost? Jose wasnt just almost sacked he was actually fired not once not twice 3 times in the last decade

Ancelotti would never claim it was player sabotage that got him fired like Mourinho

Mourinho was fired for incompetence.

As at today Mourinho left Chelsea 16th on the table. Take a snapshot of it
If Jose is incompetent, then Carlo is incompetent, and all the other managers who have been at Madrid and Barca in recent years are incompetent.

Football is an extremely cynical business. Ched Evans is a convicted rapist who was courted by several clubs until the relentless media pressure took its toll.

Luis Suarez racially abused a player but his club came out to print T-Shirts in support. He then tried to eat two other players but still got signed for a record deal by Barca...even when he was ineligible to play for months.

Joey Barton beat someone up and went to jail. He has stubbed a cigar out in someone's eye before...he still continues to get jobs. His current employers are Burnley who h previously dissed on Twitter.

Steven Gerrard has beaten up a man in a pub before for refusing to change the music. Moyes beat up another one.

Adam Johnson is facing statutory ra per charges. Titus Bramble has as well. Ravel Morisson is a gangbanger. Alan Pardew has headbutted a Hull city Player.

One of the Stoke City ex-players(black Jamaican dude can't remember his name) used to slap his teammates. Vardy used racist Language. Di Canio is a fascist. John Terry was racist and fvcked his teammate's wife. Ibrahimovic had fought with nearly every one of his managers...As has Balotelli

I could go on and on

Didn't stop any them from finding new employers.

Ferguson in particular sued his fellow board member to court, had public feuds with several of his own players, and opened Beckham's head with football boot.


If you think likeability counts a jot in football, then you are sleeping on a bicycle.

Player power at big clubs is the biggest enemy to a manager. Why is it that the same jobs keep getting vacant and the same managers keep rotating around the same hot seats?

The best a manager at that level can do is hope that his players listen to him...Ronaldo has probably scored 1 or 2 free kicks in his last 50 attempts, yet reports are coming in that he stormed out of a meeting where Benitez asked him to undergo freekick studies...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 7:29pm On Dec 17, 2015
Ibime:
No one can accuse Roman of impatience. . .

Jose is a legend but hubris and pride did for him.

He will be back at Chelsea. . . .

I dey wait to greet my man Hiddink. . .
Hiddink? I hope he can still perform no offence to him but i read somewhere sometimes ago that he seems to have lost his marbles particularly in coaching and he needs to retire
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:33pm On Dec 17, 2015
pamcode:
Hiddink? I hope he can still perform no offence to him but i read somewhere sometimes ago that he seems to have lost his marbles particularly in coaching and he needs to retire
I dont see anyone that can do a job for 6 months but Hiddink. All the other big managers are tied up till summer. Unless you prefer Juande Ramos.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:36pm On Dec 17, 2015
Nihilist:
Joey Barton beat someone up and went to jail. He has stubbed a cigar out in someone's eye before...he still continues to get jobs. His current employers are Burnley who h previously dissed on Twitter.
Not to forget his brother buried an axe in a black mans head in a racist attack. . .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:39pm On Dec 17, 2015
sephia:
You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.
Ruud Gullit won the FA Cup as Chelsea manager.

Below are the achievements of Coach Gianluca Vialli of Chelsea.


Chelsea
FA Cup: 1999–2000
League Cup: 1997–98
FA Charity Shield: 2000
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1997–98
UEFA Super Cup: 1998
.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chelseafan1: 7:41pm On Dec 17, 2015
Let me the first to drop this here before it's too late.

Our season starts this weekend. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Cc

Coded01, Dmcdad, Barackohandso, Adelana1, Pamcode, Sircumalot, Sinizia, Keky, Byke byke, Sebod cheesy tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 7:41pm On Dec 17, 2015
Ibime:
Yet Gullit won the FA Cup

Vialli won the FA Cup, League Cup, European Cup Winners Cup and European Super Cup.

Dey yarn dey go.
Hiddink won the FA cup
Ancellotti won the league and FA cup
Benitez won UEFA cup
Di Matteo won the Champions league

All these in less than 7years. Nothing JM did others didn't so and some more. I still believe without money JM would have won nothing. Nobody should mention Porto abeg. Flukes happen.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 7:44pm On Dec 17, 2015
TheGoodJoe:
Ruud Gullit won the FA Cup as Chelsea manager.

Below are the achievements of Coach Gianluca Vialli of Chelsea.


Chelsea
FA Cup: 1999–2000
League Cup: 1997–98
FA Charity Shield: 2000
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1997–98
UEFA Super Cup: 1998
.
I said Mourhino. He thrives where there is money. Let him try doing it with Leicester.
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