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bigkesh:
First of all,I don't insult CFC fans even if its the Fan1 in stupidity...... But you are crossing a line ......
Mata,Schrulle,Luiz and Cech.....all justified sales
Mata for 39, Schrulle isn't even on Spurs level,can't make Wolfsburg XI,Luiz for 50m?? Go reject am na,Cech? Good decision for me,even though Cech is currently better....
U are shouting about KDB,Mata and co,if he had Sold Courtois who is far better than the sold names,this same moniker would still wail about it.....
When did Mourinho take Credit for the league? Stop yarning dust,you saying loads of rubbish at the same time,Your phone no dey crash?
Give me 2 interviews to suggest he did such
Mourinho supported every player from October till last week,Everyone of them....Tell me one that he blamed,15 players came out to take responsibility for our poor season and excuse the boss yet jimmy jimmy thinks Mourinho criticized them
Maybe you think the players are mentally weak people like you for a beef that has nothing to do with them affect them in the long run....
So your Teacher's beef affects or stop you from passing?
We trashed Arsenal 6-0 weeks after the specialist in failure remark, y didn't it affect?
Ferguson had a beef with Benitez for over 6 years why didn't it affect?
I don't know why hazard will stop scoring because Mourinho has a beef with someone in the opposing team....Mumu
If you say Eva's whatever affected them? No p....But Wenger and Referees??
Just stick to supporting barca,we have enough problems to deal with than adding 2 faced plastic jerk with multiple holes for Hazard's dick.....
Finally.....I don't work for my Boss, M trained to save lives same way footballers are paid to win....
Winning should be their aim,the same way saving lives is mine.....
If a boss takes Glory,he can't take it all...The fans aren't blind same way my patients aren't....
Jose name is not on the list for the highest assist last seaon
Jose wasn't named the 6th best in Europe
Jose didn't collect Hazard or Fabregas' medal
Jose didn't steal their wages
To top it all,he stayed loyal to them because of last season heroics...That's a payback
Or you think Hazard's performance will make Watford XI? Talkless of Chelsea.....
He made all Chelsea players at the dinner rise on their feet before naming hazard our player of the year
He was the one who said EPL XI should be all CFC,he didn't say all Jose
He was the one who said he would win the UCL with 11 Azpi,not 11 Jose.....
He never for once took the glory....So next time you wanna analyze soccer,Jog from Oau gate to the library 3x and let blood flow through your brain ,maybe then you can finally make sense

Eruditor:
The Illogic wey fill this post dey weak me. I don't wanna derail it too much, only chipped in a little to correct some false statements.

Lyon is one of the best teams in Ligue un history but they are not the best team today. PSG is. Same with United and LFC, but today, common sense says we either call the "official best" or the current best. It is simple and in that case either Chelsea or Leicester will do fine. Doesn't mean City may not go on to win the EPL.

CR7 is the best player in the world until FIFA announce Messi as the best. Or Neymar is the best player in the world currently. I will be amiss to say Pelé or Maradona is the best. Hope you understand.

So in the same vein, Bayern wasn't the best team in the league 2 years before Pep came. And that statement that Bayern would've done the treble is even more false than all your previous statements. Remind me of the season when RM went on a run of 22wins and everyone thought they would do a treble? Yea...Barca ended up doing that treble. That's football.

lalaboi:
Jose cannot win the league without spending they said. Just that everyone saying this decided to turn a blind eye to the fact that we sold wisely to be able to spend that much and that in fact the buying did not affect the club in any way.

Net spend of first season in his second coming
- £49M (13/14)

Net Spend of Second season(which he won the league.
- £5M (14/15)
Total=£54m


Within the same time frame. Lets compare to net spend of others

Manutd Net spend
£67m (13/14)

£104m(14/15) .
Total= £171m
The same person who spent this went on to net another £40M this season and fans dont even like what hes doing.


Arsenal
£33m (13/14)

£65m (14/15)
Total = £98m
This team totaled more than Chelsea and didn't win the league. heck they struggles for 4th at first and then came 3rd the next season.

Man City

£90M (13/14)
£60M (15/16)
To win the league once during his time


Too much hate!
Its no secret he had loads of enemies within and outside. . That is the Jose way.
Like someone said earlier, he is the best coach Chelsea ever had and its just bullocks the way peeps here try to downplay his achievement.
Abeg make una go siddon

TheGoodJoe:
Mourinho sticking with them and eating their insults, makes me wonder. If Hazard does not one to play, he can stay at home. Mourinho had Kenedy on the bench all this while. He might not match Hazard's class on the field, but he wants it more than Hazard.

Why stick with an insulting Costa when he had Loic Remy itching to prove he had more to offer.

The players lost their motivation and Mojo. Mourinho played a part in it.

Eruditor:
The Illogic wey fill this post dey weak me. I don't wanna derail it too much, only chipped in a little to correct some false statements.

Lyon is one of the best teams in Ligue un history but they are not the best team today. PSG is. Same with United and LFC, but today, common sense says we either call the "official best" or the current best. It is simple and in that case either Chelsea or Leicester will do fine. Doesn't mean City may not go on to win the EPL.

CR7 is the best player in the world until FIFA announce Messi as the best. Or Neymar is the best player in the world currently. I will be amiss to say Pelé or Maradona is the best. Hope you understand.

[b]So in the same vein, Bayern wasn't the best team in the league 2 years before Pep came. And that statement that Bayern would've done the treble is even more false than all your previous statements.[/b]Remind me of the season when RM went on a run of 22wins and everyone thought they would do a treble? Yea...Barca ended up doing that treble. That's football.

bigkesh:
Some people can't stand Failure unlike Pataki and co

lalaboi:
Jose cannot win the league without spending they said. Just that everyone saying this decided to turn a blind eye to the fact that we sold wisely to be able to spend that much and that in fact the buying did not affect the club in any way.

Net spend of first season in his second coming
- £49M (13/14)

Net Spend of Second season(which he won the league.
- £5M (14/15)
Total=£54m


Within the same time frame. Lets compare to net spend of others

Manutd Net spend
£67m (13/14)

£104m(14/15) .
Total= £171m
The same person who spent this went on to net another £40M this season and fans dont even like what hes doing.


Arsenal
£33m (13/14)

£65m (14/15)
Total = £98m
This team totaled more than Chelsea and didn't win the league. heck they struggles for 4th at first and then came 3rd the next season.

Man City

£90M (13/14)
£60M (15/16)
To win the league once during his time


Too much hate!
Its no secret he had loads of enemies within and outside. . That is the Jose way.
Like someone said earlier, he is the best coach Chelsea ever had and its just bullocks the way peeps here try to downplay his achievement.
Abeg make una go siddon

A40:
Abeg help me tell Lalaboi who thinks Bayern winning 8 games in the league they swear is not competitive guaranteed us a potential treble

kokaneprodigy:
You forgot to note the number of players Wenger will bring in with a certain amount when compared to mourinho.
Wenger will buy a starter and a bench for 50M i.e two players, while mourinho will spend all that on one player.
Reason arsenal has a more robust squad than Chelsea, reason mourinho couldn't bench those that were not performing cos he didn't trust his bench to do better.
Reason arsenal can still get results in the absence of key players.

Nihilist:
I really have to question your intelligence...

Because if you were smart, you would realise that Messi's decision to follow Chelsea's instagram almost cost his manager his job at the time...
That's not the only thing he did, he refused to turn up for training the next day
Messi reportedly even went to the club president to give a 'he goes or I go ultimatum'

Why did all of this happen? Because Messi had an argument with manager...

Just imagine the impudence...

Are you so thick, that you cannot see how player power severely undermines managers at big clubs?



Which beautiful football? The team has been dreadful all season



Costa not scoring is not the problem here. Afterall Watford have the same league 18 goals as us...they are 7th not 16th. Stoke have scored only 13 goals this season...They are 11th and not 16th.

The issue here is Costa's impudence. Despite the fact the the idiot was underperforming, he still had the cheek to argue with his manager on the pitch...and then throw a bib at the manager when he was dropped!

If the striker can do this in public, then he could be doing a lot worse in private...and this, this, this is the simple fact that you are either unwilling or unable to comprehend...The players act like spoilt brats...

I guess you are still a student, and probably don't understand what it means to be a professional...so maybe you can be excused.

That Hazard 'injury' at Leicester disgusted me to no end. In Professional Rugby Union, the players have to be forced off by their managers following an injury,usually quite serious too, such is the willingness and desire to play....The behaviour by these Chelsea boys has NO EXCUSE.

Chelseafan1:
Mr, you quoted the wrong person cos I wasn't the one who stated that Bayern were the best 2 seasons b4 Pep came, Bayern is the league's all time best team....I didn't limit it to just 2 years abeg.

TheGoodJoe:
We are talking of influx of players. For him to win, he needs to continue buying. I do not understand why. Not net.

kokaneprodigy:
You forgot to note the number of players Wenger will bring in with a certain amount when compared to mourinho.
Wenger will buy a starter and a bench for 50M i.e two players, while mourinho will spend all that on one player.
Reason arsenal has a more robust squad than Chelsea, reason mourinho couldn't bench those that were not performing cos he didn't trust his bench to do better.
Reason arsenal can still get results in the absence of key players.

Eruditor:
Yea I agree. That should have been for Lalaboi. Sorry.

Doesn't detract from the fact that being the best team in your league’s history guarantees anything. Did Moyes not inherit the "best" team? Abeg. Miss me with the illogic.

Chelseafan1:
I won't go down the insult lane trying to make you understand my point, certainly nnot because of this baseless argument.

My initial stances was that Mourinho isn't a saint and he made the wrong calls on so many occasion which played a part in his downfall, I dunno which of the players let him down cos Hazard on a good day is not a prolific goal scorer, he has created chances this season, had attempts at goals, this myt just be the true him in a bad form, Terry can't do more than he's doing, Matic isn't totally worse than last season, Willian improved, Fabregas, Costa and Oscar are the ones who really retrogressed, to me.


I wonder what you will say if this same squad finds it hard to defeat Sunderland and Man utd in the next few matches.

lalaboi:
Because it is convenient for you. like every other person who just wants to bash him

He shipped out the players he did not need and bought those he needed to do the job.

or are you suggesting that he should have not sold at all ?

bigkesh:
.Airmark..You have said nothing about what has been happening

lalaboi:
Please mention a player Mourinho bought for 50M or go back to where you crawled from.

Also, tell me how much Ozil and Sanchez cost.

I have given you homework, submit tomorrow

lalaboi:
You see, this is the part i dont like about arguing with you and Dayo. You conveniently mention i said they won 8 straight games from the get go for a record.

I also mentioned they won the league in record time in April. .

I also mentioned that they won it with 25points from the closest rival.

Lets just say pep was announced by end of January. . . As at that time, they were 12points ahead. you mean to tell me that they were not considered favorites to win the league and cup.? They never thought to themselves that they were in good form to maybe get a treble. A team in such a good form is to be written off as 'potential' winners of a treble?

go to bed A40.

lalaboi:
It was bigkesh

You will only mention that because i say again, its convenient for you.

Pep inherited the best team in Germany from the time he took over for his first game! True or false?

TheGoodJoe:
I am not bashing him. The coaches who spend more to bring in players most times will do better than a coach who spends less.

Last season, Man City did not reinforce much and we did not perform as we did the season before. It happened to Mancini too.

Mourinho is lucky to coach at places where he can wipe out who he wants and buy who he wants. When he fails, he simply says it, I did not get the players I want.

Remember, he had Eto'o, Demba Ba and Torres and Said he had no striker.

He dropped them and spent huge for Costa.

airmark:
As much as i love mou and so happy he came back that 2nd time, he lost it all this season even before it commenced. The players also have a share of the blame too, but as the manager he did n't do well in bringing his experience into bear managing them well and other staffs. Oscar, hazard, costa and iva are the major culprits. They effectively executed his downfall. Mou trusted them and they betrayed him. When hazard lost the penalty against stoke, the look on his face said it all (to hell with you mou) No one should tell me hazard was happy that mou fought the doctor for offering to quickly treat him when injured. After eva incident he felt like oh yea. Don't forget hazard last season complained that he was feeling like an old man cos of knocks and tackles from defenders. While Iva was playing like pregnant woman, mou continued to use him and we lost like 24 points only cos of his weak defending. Oscar's form has been declining since last season, mou kept him and loaned players who are hungrier and ready to perform. 3rd season syndrome was real, he got everything muddled up and have himself to blame. It seems costa was n't that happy with falcao joining him, mou goofed bringing a fatcow to help out when we deserved a better striker to help while costa fights to regain his form. Series of bad results continued rolling in, management gave him some time to rescue the team but after leicester loss, he said he was n't going to buy new players by january, yet he stated the players he would be banking on were betraying him. At this point it was glaring mou was confused. He deserves that sack.

TheGoodJoe:
I am not bashing him. The coaches who spend more to bring in players most times will do better than a coach who spends less.

Last season, Man City did not reinforce much and we did not perform as we did the season before. It happened to Mancini too.

Mourinho is lucky to coach at places where he can wipe out who he wants and buy who he wants. When he fails, he simply says it, I did not get the players I want.

Remember, he had Eto'o, Demba Ba and Torres and Said he had no striker.

He dropped them and spent huge for Costa.

lalaboi:
please mention a manger who has won things and didn't buy his own players to build his perfect team.? Just 1




All i see is people nitpicking on any little thing they can find to disregard Jose.

Eruditor:
Please let's rest this. Pep broke all those records apart from winning the UCL. The only difference being that people expected that to happen more than they did in Jupp's last season. A40 just told you that Dortmund overtook Bayern from 8 or 11 points behind if my memory serves me well. So seeing them 12points ahead means nothing abeg.

BTW Pep had agreed with Bayern beginning of 2013 season. Bayern announced Jupp's retirement for him. He didn't even know he was retiring (I kid you not)

People forget Bayern had reliquinshed a treble winning position the season before they actually did. Lost both league and cup to Dortmund and then the UCL to Chelsea. The Bayern board were dissatisfied. The only reason Jupp wasn't fired that season end was because Pep asked for a year to learn some German. So they left Jupp as an interim manager. The only thing they didn't know was that he would end up winning a treble.

Like I said before, had they known, they won't have hired Pep.

lalaboi:
please mention a manger who has won things and didn't buy his own players to build his perfect team.? Just 1




All i see is people nitpicking on any little thing they can find to disregard Jose.

Chelseafan1:
What can you say about Raneiri who has guided his low-cost team to the EPL team at the expense of the big boys in London and Manchester??

Nihilist:
You mean you can actually call Torres a striker without the fear of random thunder striking your blockus wherever you are right now?

I throway salute for you sir

TheGoodJoe:
I am not bashing him. The coaches who spend more to bring in players most times will do better than a coach who spends less.

Last season, Man City did not reinforce much and we did not perform as we did the season before. It happened to Mancini too.

Mourinho is lucky to coach at places where he can wipe out who he wants and buy who he wants. When he fails, he simply says it, I did not get the players I want.
[b]
Remember, he had Eto'o, Demba Ba and Torres and Said he had no striker.

He dropped them and spent huge for Costa.[/b]

diggz:
@ lala see what I got from espn....

Pep Guardiola is a fraud. Bayern would be mad to give him a third season. That's two years in a row that his team get their rear ends handed to them in the semifinal, 3-10 on aggregate, are you kidding me?

Who cares if he won the Bundesliga? It's kinda hard not to win the Bundesliga, to be honest, when you manage Bayern. Every single guy who has managed the club in the past 19 years has won the title, except for Jurgen Klinsmann. This is a league where the second-place club is freaking Wolfsburg, a team with Bas Dost and Nicklas Bendtner sharing time up front.

It's a one-team league, especially now that Borussia Dortmund have imploded, and the only team is the one Pep is lucky enough to coach.

And guess what? It's getting worse. Bayern won the Treble before Pep's arrival. In his first season, they got the Double. This year it's just that measly German championship. Next season? Logical progression suggests it will be a big fat zero if they stick with Pep and his nonsense.

High line? Pressing? Weirdo formations with a jockey-sized fullback like Rafinha at center-half? Come on now. How about working on some defending so two otherwise fine centre-backs like Jerome Boateng and Mehdi Benatia aren't made to look like statues frozen in time?

Don't be fooled by this guy. Sure, Pep won some domestic and European silverware at Barcelona, but that was because he inherited a great team. After all, Frank Rijkaard won plenty at Barca as well, with some of the same players. What happened to him? His last gig was managing Saudi Arabia, who sacked him in 2013.

Ultimately, Pep is exposed because, simply put, he can beat up bad teams but struggles against good ones. Want proof? Witness his record against the teams currently in second to sixth place right now in the Bundesliga: Wolfsburg, Borussia Monchengladbach, Bayer Leverkusen, Augsburg and Schalke. Played 10, won 3, drew 3, lost 4, scored 10, conceded 12. A losing record.

Enough of the hype. Enough of the outdated tiki-taka. This emperor has no clothes.

That's fine. Defeat has consequences and they range from criticism to a boot to the backside.

Except once the air clears, you need to take a step back and ask yourself on what basis you should judge a manager.

The cliché that "results are everything" is downright foolish. Results, particularly in a low-scoring game such as football, are a function of many things, including chance and probability. This is especially true in knockout competitions.

dmcdad:
No na... Third Mainland Bridge.