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raumdeuter:
So what is moulding again? if not the coach taking any necesary steps to improve your productivity
Ok I guess you were expecting Pep to build longer prosthetic legs for him before it can be called moulding

raumdeuter:
harior, spy360, debroslink

Did Wenger make Henry the player he is? Or was he destined for greatness regardless

raumdeuter:
Ronald without Ferguson would never even aspire to be the world best he would be content with nutmegging players and making people laugh

Just like what Quaresma is

Ferguson brought out the competitor in him.

Before Ronaldo had no problem with Rooney being better or just contributing to the team, Ferguson brought out the competitive nature in him where he could see himself as better than kaka, Dinho or Messi

hariorh:
This is elementary...

Which manager has no plans in place to keep their players fit?

As bad as robben is, he's had a few good seasons with less injury

hariorh:
What about Nani. He was to be another Ronaldo in the making. Did Fergie's golden touch become impotent on him?

Anderson too? The much touted Ronaldinho replacement

TheGoodJoe:
Every coach wants their players to become world best players. There is a difference in wanting and making it happen. Guardiola knew the right steps to take to make Messi improve drastically.

TheGoodJoe:
What about Merida, Denilson and Bendtner. Does that mean Arsene Wenger did not make Henry a better player?

hariorh:
Messi is different


What is Guardiola doing with robben at the moment?

I can bet you it's the same method with Messi and it ain't working

hariorh:
If he made Henry a better player what made it difficult to make these others u mentioned?
Shouldn't be that hard na
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TheGoodJoe:
Does that change the fact it did not work for Messi? By the way, do you know one of Guardiola's reason if wanting to leave Bayern is because he wants more freedom to work. He does not buy the players.

So it is not exactly the same method.

Nihilist:
It sounds like this Diego Costa is just an absolute dickhead sha....

Signing him and selling Lukaku continues to look more and more like one of the biggest managerial mistakes of the last 10 years...

hariorh:
You guys are making it seem like there's one hidden ritual involved in whipping up world bests by managers.

All they do is note particular talents and point them in a direction. Everything else from there is dependent on the player's individual development.


If this is still so hard to comprehend then you guys should start questioning the schools that issued you certificates o

hariorh:
He's failing with robben. His juju no dey work again?

TheGoodJoe:
It is in class and a teacher teaches well. Some will get it, others will not. Some will go home and do their home work, others will not.

Are you saying Arsene Wenger did not make Henry a better player?

TheGoodJoe:
So you know "No dey Work Again" that means you are admitting it worked before.

hariorh:
If it worked why isn't it working now?

hariorh:
Judging by the bolded,

The bulk of the work rests on the player. Not the coach.

TheGoodJoe:
If someone kicks a ball and it enters the net, if he kicks the second one and miss, does it mean the first one did not enter.

We are saying Pep made Messi a better player, you are asking if he made Messi a better player, he should make Robben better.

Does that change the fact that he made Messi better?

TheGoodJoe:
Is there anybody saying the bulk does not rest with the coach? We are talking of the impact of the coach spurring the players to do better. Like Henry and Wenger, Messi and Guardiola, CR7 and Ferguson, Villas-Boas and Hulk, Pellegrini And Forlan, Ancelotti and Pirlo etc.

The players still had to listen, follow directions and train.

hariorh:
You haven't answered the question

TheGoodJoe:
I can not answer that question because it does not change the fact that Guardiola made Messi a better player.

Mourinho's slump and flop this season does not change the fact he won the EPL last season.

hariorh:
You lot are saying only pep could make Messi the way he is.

We are saying Messi was already born for this. Pep was for support like any manager or teacher or tutor. You dig?

hariorh:
If u can't answer then it's settled

TheGoodJoe:
If every manager and teacher could do it, why did promising talents with loads of talents fail? Every coach can not bring out the best in a player.

YOU DIG?

hariorh:
Did top managers not handle flops? Likes of Nani, Anderson, Quaresma, Joe Cole and all them...

Debroslink:
Ronaldo was already feuding with Messi while @ United. Why did Ferguson fail to bring out that competitor in Rooney? Barca was trophy less, yet the gifts of Messi stood out.

How come Ronaldo went from scoring 42 goals to a mere 18 league goals under the same Ferguson?

How come Ronaldo became a better player after leaving Ferguson?

Why has Ronaldo maintained 50+ goals every season for the past 5 seasons?

Only one answer comes to mind... Messi

TheGoodJoe:
If they handled flops, does that mean they did not help make top talents better players? What is the logic here?

Guardiola made Messi a better player. There is a full article that detailed a lot of things he did. If Cuenca flopped, dies that mean his work on Messi and Thiago Alcantara is not true?

TheGoodJoe:
If someone kicks a ball and it enters the net, if he kicks the second one and miss, does it mean the first one did not enter.

We are saying Pep made Messi a better player, you are asking if he made Messi a better player, he should make Robben better.

Does that change the fact that he made Messi better?

raumdeuter:
I can see that thegoodjoe nateevs and eruditor are setting the record straight already

Some people think a coach doesnt influence your play and what you achieve? I can bet that Mikel would have been a better player under a different coach

A40:
Mou stinks at grooming young players. I thought you knew