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Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:23pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
Because we taught ourselves that simple. Over time as we got so comfortable with clothes our minds evolved and we associated it with morality. For example, men that live in a society where people don't wear clothes don't feel anything when they see naked women, because they are used to it right from childhood, but that can not be said to be the case in societies where people where clothes. When men see naked women in societies where they wear clothes they get sexuality aroused. Humans have taught themselves many many things over time.
Mr. man ...you are clearly assuming . So tell me at what point during the existence of man did man decide to wear clothes ? Dates ? Time ? Location ?

Wow me wink
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:30pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
I told you that I don't believe them because they do not give me satisfying answers. We are created in God's image? Why then are we not invisible since we are created in his image. Does God have a penis? What about a vagina? Does God have it? Does God pee? Does he poop? Does he have pubic hair and hair under his arm? Created in the image of God indeed.
Satisfying ? Why are the answers not satisfying ? Or they don't make sense to you ? wink

Look at picture below :

How would you describe the robot

It was designed in man's image or share some resemblance with man ... right ?


1. Does it have a fuctional peni.s ?

2. Does it have a functional va.gina?

3. Does it have blood running in its system ?

4. Is it conscious of its environment ?

5. Doesn't it work - having limitations as designed by its creators ?

6. What the fukk is wrong with you huh angry undecided

Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by GooseBaba: 9:38pm On Oct 25, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Satisfying ? Why are the answers not satisfying ? Or they don't make sense to you ? wink

Look at picture below :

How would you describe the robot

It was designed in man's image or share some resemblance with man ... right ?


1. Does it have a fuctional peni.s ?

2. Does it have a functional va.gina?

3. Does it have blood running in its system ?

4. Is it conscious of its environment ?

5. Doesn't it work - having limitations as designed by its creators ?

6. What the fukk is wrong with you huh angry undecided
You make claims, then turn around and make excuses when cornered you start making accusations.

You lots keep mocking your diety. Clearly we know your god fuvked Mary. What did he use..?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman:
KingEbukasBlog:
Satisfying ? Why are the answers not satisfying ? Or they don't make sense to you ? wink

Look at picture below :

How would you describe the robot

It was designed in man's image or share some resemblance with man ... right ?


1. Does it have a fuctional peni.s ?

2. Does it have a functional va.gina?

3. Does it have blood running in its system ?

4. Is it conscious of its environment ?

5. Doesn't it work - having limitations as designed by its creators ?

6. What the fukk is wrong with you huh angry undecided
The robots are made in man's image because like man:

1. They are made up of matter just like man

2. They can been seen, felt and touched.

3. They occupy space.

4. They have dimensions

5. They have man's facial features.

6. They have man's form.

So which among's your God's features do we have since you keep insisting that we are made in his image, tell us so that we can know.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 9:43pm On Oct 25, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Mr. man ...you are clearly assuming . So tell me at what point during the existence of man did man decide to wear clothes ? Dates ? Time ? Location ?

Wow me wink
I don't know, all I know is that before the white man came all the ladies of your tribe were walking around bare chested with their boobies dangling for all to see. tongue tongue
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:44pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
The robots are made in man's image because like man:

1. They are made up of matter just like man

2. They can been seen, felt and touched.

3. They occupy space.

4. They have dimensions

5. They have man's facial features.

6. They have man's form.

So which among's your God's features do we have since keep insisting that we are made in his image, tell us so that we can know.
@ Dalaman -

You claim to have read the bible - the bible gave descriptions of what God looks like - you can deduce which He posses and we don't cool
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:49pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
I don't know, all I know is that before the white man came all the ladies of your tribe were walking around bare chested with their boobies dangling for all to see. tongue tongue
You are perv tongue tongue tongue cheesy

You don't know the time but you are sure that at some point man just decided to invent clothing ?

My friend stop assuming jare
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 9:57pm On Oct 25, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
You are perv tongue tongue tongue cheesy

You don't know the time but you are sure that at some point man just decided to invent clothing ?

My friend stop assuming jare
It's a fact that at some point man decided to invent cloth, just the way that at some point man decided to invent housing and cultivate crops. These are fact, to deny that is to deny reality as we know it.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by Nobody: 9:57pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
Because we taught ourselves that simple. Over time as we got so comfortable with clothes our minds evolved and we associated it with morality. For example, men that live in a society where people don't wear clothes don't feel anything when they see naked women, because they are used to it right from childhood, but that can not be said to be the case in societies where people where clothes. When men see naked women in societies where they wear clothes they get sexuality aroused. Humans have taught themselves many many things over time.
If you say so then.....

Agreed, we taught ourselves many a thing..... Like marriage: it had a system, one man to one woman is taught to be right and the best way, but hey! We still had cohabitation, polygamy, gay marriages and the likes..... My piont is; the society can decide a lot if things but human beings still chose what they consider best for them as individuals.

Somehow the society decided clothes are good. And are to be worn at all times? Even when you don't feel like?

Considering the fact that we are individuals. What goes down well with one person may not go down well with the other person....

Dalaman, I can choose to go to work naked tomorrow, but what people would say wouldn't mean much to me like how I'll feel within. Why am I so conscious of my body when I'm without clothes, when I don't know what being unclothed is?

Dalaman, why don't you just go bare when it's hot? Just for that time when its hot? After all, it is legit - no law guarding against unclothedness.
No one notices you're naked, and no one understands what unclothedness is? Or do they? If so - why?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:06pm On Oct 25, 2015
Dalaman : God does not exist because we can't see Him or He hasn't revealed Himself to man

Me : But many have witnessed His power and have seen Him

Dalaman : Its not true , they are hallucinating or lying , God is man-made

Me :

Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by Nobody: 10:10pm On Oct 25, 2015
GooseBaba:
Weather conditions such as...?

Besides, we live in societies that frown on unclothedness. There are american citizens petitioning the courts to respect their rights to walk around naked. That's the main reason why we still put on clothes.. SOCIETY..

Did you watch the video up there... It talks about the people putting wooden sticks under their chin, when asked they cannot explain the reason why they still do it. It's now a norm for them. They are also skilled at weaving hammocks. And you think they cannot weave panties if they wanted.

Besides most tribe that resides in tropical areas do that with little body coverings. Because the weather permits it. The Arabs or europeans live in harsh weather conditions hence their need to invent their own style of clothing.

The curse of Adam remains with the jews and their converts. It most certainly has nothing to do with humanity. Thank goodness the Brazilian government expelled those filthy missionaries from the tribesmen.
Why do we frown at unclothedness? What's wrong with it? If it's because we thinks it's inappropriate - why do think so? Weren't we born that way? Shouldn't we stay that way?

How and why are we aware of a naked body? CONSCIOUSNESS? Why did evolution give it to humans only? When it came to their appearance....?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 10:15pm On Oct 25, 2015
Thoniameek:
If you say so then.....

Agreed, we taught ourselves many a thing..... Like marriage: it had a system, one man to one woman is taught to be right and the best way, but hey! We still had cohabitation, polygamy, gay marriages and the likes..... My piont is; the society can decide a lot if things but human beings still chose what they consider best for them as individuals.
One man one wife is taught to be right in the society you live in. A Hausa muslim man living in Kano state Nigeria sees nothing wrong in having 4 wives because his society accepts it, his religion permits him and the man whom his entire life is supposed to be modeled after(Prophet Mohammed) had 9 wives. A woman living in Saudi Arabia sees nothing wrong in sharing a man with 3 other women, he religion and societies teaches her that is is right. A gay guy living in New York or California sees nothing wrong with him publicly displaying affection with his gay lover, but a gay guy in Nigeria can not. They both have the same urge and feeling as gays but they can't do the same thing because of the society. It is the society that always determines everything for us. Society and our period in time in history is what determines our behavior. Just 400 years ago, do you think the slave owners in America and Europe think they were doing anything wrong when they owned Africans?

Somehow the society decided clothes are good. And are to be worn at all times? Even when you don't feel like?
Yes that is because it is the society that determines everything for us. I just posted a YouTube video of a society where they don't see nudity as a bad thing, all of them are naked and don't even know that they are naked.


Considering the fact that we are individuals. What goes down well with one person may not go down well with the other person....

Dalaman, I can choose to go to work naked tomorrow, but what people would say wouldn't mean much to me like how I'll feel within. Why am I so conscious of my body when I'm without clothes, when I don't know what being unclothed is?
Dalaman, why don't you just go bare when it's hot? Just for that time when its hot? After all, it is legit - no law guarding against unclothedness.
No one notices you're naked, and no one understands what unclothedness is? Or do they? If so - why?[/quote]The society I live in frowns at nudity and has made it illegal and as such I can not move around naked even if I want to do so? If the society does not frown at nudity and makes it legal then I can do so without shame.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 25, 2015
Dalaman! Circles!

It's either you don't get me or are deliberately dodging my questions........ Either way I'm done!
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by Nobody:
Every human without clothes is aware of it. How come?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by winner01(op): 10:50pm On Oct 25, 2015
Lol. One can not but just wonder how these people think.
In many threads i just read through comments and wonder.
They seem to know their way around, blindly.
Responding over and over again is beginning to look stale to me
Fact remains, the original idea of Na.kedness is still scientifically uncertain.
dalaman:
I just posted a video of a people that live completely naked and you are still yapping. I was in Cyprus this summer and they have a nudist colony there in Ayia Napa. Most of the people there move around naked and they see nothing wrong with it.
You might need to find out the meaning of nudism.


Like Thoniameek said, People could be aware of their na.kedness and still move around like they dont care for one reason or the other.
Villagers could do such till date so as to preserve their culture, not that they arnt aware
Porn people show their bodies to the whole world like they dont care, i believe they know the meaning of na.kedness. They choose to be naked for a reason
Nudists also do what they do for particular reasons.
No one has really answered why man realized unclothedness or the point at which he did, all these defences are in favour of protection from harsh climate, societal norms, individual perception.

These endless circles are boring already.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 11:01pm On Oct 25, 2015
winner01:
Lol. One can not but just wonder how these people think.
In many threads i just read through comments and wonder.
They seem to know their way around, blindly.
Responding over and over again is beginning to look stale to me
Fact remains, the original idea of Na.kedness is still scientifically uncertain.

You might need to find out the meaning of nudism.


Like Thoniameek said, People could be aware of their na.kedness and still move around like they dont care for one reason or the other.
Villagers could do such till date so as to preserve their culture, not that they arnt aware
Porn people show their bodies to the whole world like they dont care, i believe they know the meaning of na.kedness. They choose to be naked for a reason
Nudists also do what they do for particular reasons.
No one has really answered why man realized unclothedness or the point at which he did, all these defences are in favour of protection from harsh climate, societal norms, individual perception.

These endless circles are boring already.
The purpose of your thread was to show that unclothedness has God as it's origin, that has clearly been shown to be false on this thread. People wear clothes for different reasons, some of which have been outlined, nudity varies from place to place and above all it is the society that one finds himself and the culture that one is raised in that determines everything about nudity. God has no role in it.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by winner01(op): 11:05pm On Oct 25, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Dalaman : God does not exist because we can't see Him or He hasn't revealed Himself to man

Me : But many have witnessed His power and have seen Him

Dalaman : Its not true , they are hallucinating or lying , God is man-made

Me :
Dalaman has never stated precisely what he believes in.
He's been careful not to make that mistake.

Instead he centres on attacking your belief.

Its like a footballer willingly playing against either goal posts, trying to convince his coach to see the sense in it.
Confusing ainit?undecided

Its difficult and fruitless argueing with such people, cos no matter how much you try, the circles will continue and wont make sense
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by winner01(op): 11:27pm On Oct 25, 2015
dalaman:
The purpose of your thread was to show that unclothedness has God as it's origin, that has clearly been shown to be false on this thread. People wear clothes for different reasons, some of which have been outlined, nudity varies from place to place and above all it is the society that one finds himself and the culture that one is raised in that determines everything about nudity. God has no role in it.
The purpose of this thread was to share my idea on the origin of na.kedness while others share theirs.
As expected, y'all have done quite a job on the origin of clothing and did little justice to the origin of na.kedness.

For the last time, When did man find out about the idea of na.kedness, how did he come about it.

Ive done my research and Earlier, I mentioned the only place I found an answer. The Bible.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 11:38pm On Oct 25, 2015
winner01:
Dalaman has never stated precisely what he believes in.
He's been careful not to make that mistake.

Instead he centres on attacking your belief.

Its like a footballer willingly playing against either goal posts, trying to convince his coach to see the sense in it.
Confusing ainit?undecided

Its difficult and fruitless argueing with such people, cos no matter how much you try, the circles will continue and wont make sense
What do you mean that I have never stated exactly what I believe in? I believe in many thing. I do not believe in things that can not be verified. You just use your God as an explanation to things you do not know. For example you do not know the origin of the universe of how life on earth came about and you attributed it to God. If asked to provide evidence for this God and you will begin to speak in tongues. Didn't your God tell us how he created the world in the book of genesis according to people who we are told wrote and speak on his behalf? Is the genesis creation account the accurate explanation for the universe we see around us? I don't need to know what 2345 x 23454 is but I know that it can never be 10. That is what we are discussing about here when it comes to the issue of God of man made religions and creation or the reality we see around us. You guys just keep using God as your default position for "I don't know".
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 11:42pm On Oct 25, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
@ Dalaman -

You claim to have read the bible - the bible gave descriptions of what God looks like - you can deduce which He posses and we don't cool
Just outline and explain the feature that God has or shares with human so that we can know how we are created in his image.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by GooseBaba: 1:28am On Oct 26, 2015
Thoniameek:
Why do we frown at unclothedness? What's wrong with it? If it's because we thinks it's inappropriate - why do think so? Weren't we born that way? Shouldn't we stay that way?

How and why are we aware of a naked body? CONSCIOUSNESS? Why did evolution give it to humans only? When it came to their appearance....?
That's where you're wrong.. Have you ever been in the mind of a horse, a cat a rhino... The answer is No!!! You. Cannot make such claims that animals are not conscious of their appearance.

We see monkeys cleaning each other, we see wild cats cleaning themselves. We see snakes shedding their skin. There's a cobra that emits foul odor to fool it's prey that's it's dead. Elephants bathing in mud to protect them from the sun. This are aspects of appearance. Therefore, they are aware of their appearance.
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39am On Oct 26, 2015
dalaman:
you just use your God as an explanation to things you do not know. For example you do not know the origin of the universe of how life on earth That is what we are discussing about here when it comes to the issue of God of man made religions and creation or the reality we see around us. You guys just keep using God as your default position for "I don't know".
@ winner01

Welcome to Dalaman's world:

Dalaman is being careful not to reveal what he believes in so that we don't ridicule him grin
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman:
KingEbukasBlog:
@ winner01

Welcome to Dalaman's world:

Dalaman is being careful not to reveal what he believes in so that we don't ridicule him grin
I do not believe things blindly, I will like to know things for a fact before I accept them. I was once a believer like you in the myths, fiction and ideas of the ancient Jews, after a very careful scrutiny , I realized it was all a sham and I stopped believing. I will easily believe if I can been presented with incontrovertible evidence, but the fact is that God and religions are man made idea that is why there are many different Gods and different religions because men made them up. What you believe in is determine mostly by where you are born and the period in history.
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Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by winner01(op): 6:10pm On Oct 26, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
@ winner01

Welcome to Dalaman's world:

Dalaman is being careful not to reveal what he believes in so that we don't ridicule him grin
Tha dude ehn, very unstable and indecisive. Better to leave him in his predicaments. Spiritual help is what he needs.

Am i the only one tha saw a thread {that was deleted} on Pastor and Pastor Mrs Osewa, Oga nairaland's parents in a christian ministration yesterdayhuh
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:59am On Oct 28, 2015
winner01:
Tha dude ehn, very unstable and indecisive. Better to leave him in his predicaments. Spiritual help is what he needs.

Am i the only one tha saw a thread {that was deleted} on Pastor and Pastor Mrs Osewa, Oga nairaland's parents in a christian ministration yesterdayhuh
Hidden truth (pun intended ) wink grin ... thank God some of us know ... it was strange ... what atheists go tru' though
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by dalaman: 8:15am On Oct 28, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Hidden truth (pun intended ) wink grin ... thank God some of us know ... it was strange ... what atheists go tru' though
What do atheist go through?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:57pm On Dec 22, 2015
CoolUsername:
Man invented clothes because man is a complex animal with a complex brain. We are the only animal that can work with intelligence. One theory states that before man's evolutionary split with chimpanzees, we used to live in cool forests with adequate cover because of the trees. But when the first hominids started to move into hotter areas, the hairy ones will have overheated and died. Allowing the less hairy ones to reproduce. The less hairy ones would have lost heat at night and died of hypothermia, but that's where intelligence comes into play, by building fires and wearing the skin of dead animals, the hominids were able to survive. These made it unnecessary for man to remain hairy.
In Dalaman's voice : Do you have a video clip on this ? I need to see this happening . This must be a scene from a movie any ways

cheesy grin

Assumptions , assumptions & more assumptions
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by CoolUsername: 4:45pm On Dec 22, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
In Dalaman's voice : Do you have a video clip on this ? I need to see this happening . This must be a scene from a movie any ways

cheesy grin

Assumptions , assumptions & more assumptions
I called it a theory. It's an educated guess.

So have you found out why the genealogies are different, and why nobody noticed Herod killing babies?
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by winner01(op): 6:24pm On Dec 23, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
In Dalaman's voice : Do you have a video clip on this ? I need to see this happening . This must be a scene from a movie any ways

cheesy grin

Assumptions , assumptions & more assumptions
Wicked!!!. lol grin grin
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:28pm On Dec 23, 2015
winner01:
Wicked!!!. lol grin grin
Lolz grin grin ...
Re: The Origin of Na.kedness by KingEbukaNaija: 11:58pm On Jun 11, 2016
This is such a fine thread . One of the best
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