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Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 9:52am On Dec 24, 2015
jayriginal:
Who says I believe evolution? Stop assuming. Besides, evolution has provided it's own proof. You aren't asked to take anything on faith.

In your haste to mirror my post, you have conveniently ignored the fact that a million dollars is at stake. You really can't think of anything to do with a million dollars?
What fact ? You clearly stated that the challenge is off due Randi's retirement undecided .

jayriginal:
So clearly you didnt witness the event but for some reason you trump it as truth. You take it on faith. Familiar.

The purpose isnt to please Mr dalaman, but to win some cool cash (I learned the challenge has been discontinued though, with Randi's retirement) and to finally prove the existence of the supernatural.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 24, 2015
vooks:
You are one emotional freak
ok
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 1:48pm On Dec 24, 2015
gatiano:
You said Purpose is relative. Do you what it is to be relative? Whenever you mention anything in relative it mean that, there is more than one stuff or thing involved whether in a seperate state or unified state.

It is the same as that of a family structure, infact that is where they got or coined the world from.

Purpose is relative to what? or does Purpose have a formular?
according to Marriam webster dictionary

Full Definition of relative
1
: a word referring grammatically to an antecedent
2
: a thing having a relation to or connection with or necessary dependence on another thing
3
a : a person connected with another by blood or affinity
b : an animal or plant related to another by common descent
4
: a relative term
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 1:56pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
No one saw dinosaurs transforming into birds but for some reason you peddle it as truth . You take it on faith . Familiar

The purpose isn't to please atheists but to win creationists over and to finally prove the infallibility of science
Science is not infallible and that is part of the reason why it is science.

Religion on the other hand claims to be infallible despite the fact that there are thousands of them each with thousands of inconsistencies, historical flaws, and of course, numerous contradictions cheesy
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 2:00pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Religion on the other hand claims to be infallible despite the fact that there are thousands of them each with thousands of inconsistencies, historical flaws, and of course, numerous contradictions cheesy
which religion ?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 2:16pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
which religion ?
All religions I know of.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 2:19pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
All religions I know of.
ok then
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by gatiano(m): 2:24pm On Dec 24, 2015
What then is Purpose related to?

Simple Definition of antecedent
grammar : a word or phrase that is represented by another word (such as a pronoun)
: something that came before something else and may have influenced or caused it

Finally, What was your purpose of refering me to the marriam webster?

zeemahn:
according to Marriam webster dictionary

Full Definition of relative
1
: a word referring grammatically to an antecedent
2
: a thing having a relation to or connection with or necessary dependence on another thing
3
a : a person connected with another by blood or affinity
b : an animal or plant related to another by common descent
4
: a relative term
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Dec 24, 2015
gatiano:
What then is Purpose related to?

Simple Definition of antecedent
grammar : a word or phrase that is represented by another word (such as a pronoun)
: something that came before something else and may have influenced or caused it

Finally, What was your purpose of refering me to the marriam webster?
I wanted you to see the different meanings of the term 'relative'

I wanted you to observe that the bolded definition was the one I meant when I said 'purpose is relative'.

For what reason do people take drugs?

In this sentence 'reason' is relative because everybody doesn't take drugs for the same reason.

He is a bad boy

'bad' is relative because different people interpret 'being bad' differently.


Isn't that easy to understand?

Wikepedia explais this way

The colloquial meaning for a relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short. An atom is big compared to a quark, but it is very small when compared to a body cell. Fast food may be healthier than preserved food, but unhealthy compared to organic produce.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by gatiano(m): 2:54pm On Dec 24, 2015
It is you that don't understand the term. Just because you need to sound scientific doesn't mean you just have to throw words that you don't fully understand.

Anytime that word "relative" is mentioned in any circumstances whatsoever, It means more than one entity, involves more than one subject or object.

You ask a question, "For what reason do people take drug?" which is the relative within that question?
Bad is not relative because people interprete being bad differently. Bad is an adjective that won't have a meaning without a noun, yet it is not relative in the sense.
A bad person is relative to what he/she did to earn such name as a bad person. The effect of this person bad behaviour is relative to what people felt emotionally.

To cut all the story short and grammer. What is Purpose? What is that reason that would make people take drugs?


zeemahn:
I wanted you to see the different meanings of the term 'relative'

I wanted you to observe that the bolded definition was the one I meant when I said 'purpose is relative'.



For what reason do people take drugs?

In this sentence 'reason' is relative because everybody doesn't take drugs for the same reason.

He is a bad boy

'bad' is relative because different people interpret 'being bad' differently.


Isn't that easy to understand?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by gatiano(m): 2:57pm On Dec 24, 2015
The 5 ft tall person thinking about the 5ft 6' tall person is relative. Him thinking about the other 5 ft6' is the relative. It has involve two the man comparing bothe his 5 ft height with that of the 5 ft 6' is the relative.
zeemahn:
I wanted you to see the different meanings of the term 'relative'

I wanted you to observe that the bolded definition was the one I meant when I said 'purpose is relative'.

For what reason do people take drugs?

In this sentence 'reason' is relative because everybody doesn't take drugs for the same reason.

He is a bad boy

'bad' is relative because different people interpret 'being bad' differently.


Isn't that easy to understand?

Wikepedia explais this way

The colloquial meaning for a relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short. An atom is big compared to a quark, but it is very small when compared to a body cell. Fast food may be healthier than preserved food, but unhealthy compared to organic produce.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by vooks: 3:51pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
ok
Can I buy you a drink?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 4:05pm On Dec 24, 2015
vooks:
Can I buy you a drink?
Sure
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by vooks: 4:11pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Sure
When we meet my Negro...when we meet.

Merry Christmas and stay safe sir, I need to pick your brains next year cheesy
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 4:23pm On Dec 24, 2015
gatiano:
It is you that don't understand the term. Just because you need to sound scientific doesn't mean you just have to throw words that you don't fully understand.

Anytime that word "relative" is mentioned in any circumstances whatsoever, It means more than one entity, involves more than one subject or object.

You ask a question, "For what reason do people take drug?" which is the relative within that question?
Bad is not relative because people interprete being bad differently. Bad is an adjective that won't have a meaning without a noun, yet it is not relative in the sense.
A bad person is relative to what he/she did to earn such name as a bad person. The effect of this person bad behaviour is relative to what people felt emotionally.

To cut all the story short and grammer. What is Purpose? What is that reason that would make people take drugs?
You mean 'being bad' is not relative?

hope you saw this?

Wikepedia explais this way

The colloquial meaning for a relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short. An atom is big compared to a quark, but it is very small when compared to a body cell. Fast food may be healthier than preserved food, but unhealthy compared to organic produce.

Purpose is a reason why things are done.

People can take drug because they're sick
people can take drugs because they want to be excited(feel high)
people take drugs because others like them are taking it.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Dec 24, 2015
vooks:
When we meet my Negro...when we meet.

Merry Christmas and stay safe sir, I need to pick your brains next year cheesy
That'll be nice. Merry X-mass
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:32pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
That'll be nice. Merry X-mass
Lol . Mr. atheist ?

Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus during this period . Why do you celebrate the birth of a 'mythical' figure ?

This should be fun
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:52pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
You mean 'being bad' is not relative?

hope you saw this?

Wikepedia explais this way

The colloquial meaning for a relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short. An atom is big compared to a quark, but it is very small when compared to a body cell. Fast food may be healthier than preserved food, but unhealthy compared to organic produce.

Purpose is a reason why things are done.

People can take drug because they're sick
people can take drugs because they want to be excited(feel high)
people take drugs because others like them are taking it.
Purpose is a reason why things are done . Meaning purpose is a product of thought . And thoughts proceed from a mind

Since there is no God (eternal mind ) as you claim .

Can you possibly state why the universe and life were formed ? What's the purpose of the universe ? Incase you dont know , then answer : what will be science's likely proposition of the universe's purpose ?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 4:58pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . Mr. atheist ?

Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus during this period . Why do you celebrate the birth of a 'mythical' figure ?

This should be fun
I celebrate Xmas, Easter, and other christian whatever whatever because my family celebrates it and I cannot afford to miss the yummies. Its more like a tradition to me. I even join my muslim friends to celebrate some of their whatever whatever. Also, I send Christmas and Salah messages to most of my friends.

And...different christian denominations doesn't even believe that Jesus was born on Xmas. Jews, doesnt even believe that the messiah has come.

Chinese doesn't play with Xmas celebrations. its more like a tradition to them just as it is to me.

IMO, Jesus may not be a mythical figure but, his history may have been written like one of those numerous legends that we are familiar with like Odysseus, Utnapishtim, Sinbad, etc

Hope youll enjoy your Xmas as much as I?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 5:15pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
I celebrate Xmas, Easter, and other christian whatever whatever because my family celebrates it and I cannot afford to miss the yummies. Its more like a tradition to me. I even join my muslim friends to celebrate some of their whatever whatever. Also, I send Christmas and Salah messages to most of my friends.
Lol . You are not practicing true atheism . grin

If you're against the God idea of the religious , you should also be against their religious celebrations and NEVER partake ! angry

cool
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 5:16pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Purpose is a reason why things are done . Meaning purpose is a product of thought . And thoughts proceed from a mind

Since there is no God (eternal mind ) as you claim .

Can you possibly state why the universe and life were formed ? What's the purpose of the universe ? Incase you dont know , then answer : what will be science's likely proposition of the universe's purpose ?
thought is not the only factory of purpose.

No Man or god need to think before rain falls or before a rainbow is formed or before an earthquake occurs, etc

I still dont know. but I honestly suggest that you read this;


http://www.templeton.org/purpose/essay_Tyson.html

Humans thinking of the existence of a creator and the purpose for existence is nothing but selfishness
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 5:28pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Humans thinking of the existence of a creator and the purpose for existence is nothing but selfishness
There is a creator and there is a purpose of existence .
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 5:34pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . You are not practicing true atheism . grin

If you're against the God idea of the religious , you should also be against their religious celebrations and NEVER partake ! angry

cool
I know what is good and what is not. Celeberating xmas doesnt hurt anybody, does it? I am mostly against religious practices and teachings that hurt people or peddle deceit.

Does anybody's lack of belief hurt you?

Your attempt to deny me chicken meat and salad this xmass will be futile. Infact it is dead on arrival. YOLO.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 5:36pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
There is a creator and there is a purpose of existence .
Yea. There is an invisible kettle orbiting the planet and it sure is the creator...I believe.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Dec 24, 2015
gatiano:
What then is Purpose related to?

Simple Definition of antecedent
grammar : a word or phrase that is represented by another word (such as a pronoun)
: something that came before something else and may have influenced or caused it

Finally, What was your purpose of refering me to the marriam webster?
the black americans, some are descendants of white men- devils. what can you say about it?
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 5:38pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
I know what is good and what is not. Celeberating xmas doesnt hurt anybody, does it? I am mostly against religious practices and teachings that hurt people or peddle deceit.

Does anybody's lack of belief hurt you?

Your attempt to deny me chicken meat and salad this xmass will be futile. Infact it is dead on arrival. YOLO.
Go joor ! Na longer throat dey worry you grin tongue

Funny atheist
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 5:40pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Yea. There is an invisible kettle orbiting the planet and it sure is the creator...I believe.
You are the one who has to prove to me that there is no creator .

Do I have to prove to you that an iPad has a creator ? That would be silly ! It will be more fun for you to prove to me an iPad has no creator with irrefutable undeniable facts
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 5:59pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
You are the one who has to prove to me that there is no creator .

Do I have to prove to you that an iPad has a creator ? That would be silly ! It will be more fun for you to prove to me an iPad has no creator with irrefutable undeniable facts
Here we go again. You tell me there is a creator, so youve made a positive claim. The burden of proof lies on the person that makes the positive claim which is you in this case. Or can you prove that an invisible teapot does not exist?

Normal thing. Shifting the burden of proof to me. Laughable grin grin grin
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Go joor ! Na longer throat dey worry you grin tongue

Funny atheist
Humans are a funny species bruh
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by KingEbukasBlog(op): 6:06pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Here we go again. You tell me there is a creator, so youve made a positive claim. The burden of proof lies on the person that makes the positive claim which is you in this case. Or can you prove that an invisible teapot does not exist?

Normal thing. Shifting the burden of proof to me. Laughable grin grin grin
The default position has been that the universe has a creator , then the atheists claim there is none . You have to back your claim with proof - what convinced you that indeed there is no creator
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by dalaman: 6:23pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
What fact ? You clearly stated that the challenge is off due Randi's retirement undecided .
The challenge is still on. Over 1000 people who claimed they have psychic powers have gone there and failed. Just take your man that can use incantation to cure deadly snake poison there and win a million dollars if he can prove his abilities and stop making noise.
Re: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
The default position has been that the universe has a creator , then the atheists claim there is none . You have to back your claim with proof - what convinced you that indeed there is no creator
Yea. without proof. It was just like other superstitions. A positive claim is a positive claim irrespective of how old it is so the burden of proof lies on you.
Or you can as well prove that the invisible kettle does not exist.
Or maybe your tryna say you believe a creator exist because it has been what people believe since time immemorial.
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