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KingEbukasBlog:
The default position has been that the universe has a creator , then the atheists claim there is none . You have to back your claim with proof - what convinced you that indeed there is no creator

zeemahn:
You mean 'being bad' is not relative?

hope you saw this?

Wikepedia explais this way

The colloquial meaning for a relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short. An atom is big compared to a quark, but it is very small when compared to a body cell. Fast food may be healthier than preserved food, but unhealthy compared to organic produce.

Purpose is a reason why things are done.

People can take drug because they're sick
people can take drugs because they want to be excited(feel high)
people take drugs because others like them are taking it.

777philosopher:
the black americans, some are descendants of white men- devils. what can you say about it?

gatiano:
Purpose precedes action. Purpose precedes every action you can ever think of to do or not do (not to do is an action on its own on the negative polarity)
Purpose precedes thought; Because thought in itself is an action.
To exist is an action, thus Purpose precedes existence.

Plants growing on both its end have a purpose before it start growing atall. There was a purpose before you own very existence, and every other living thing within and perhaps outside of the universe.

So therefore, There was a purpose before the universe or the so called bigbang, it was an action.

The question is who or what is/are capable of generating the purpose?
Think based on what you have experienced personally before you answer, not what you have read or another person's view.

zeemahn:
so what is the purpose of an earthquake? and does anything has to think before an earthquake occur?

gatiano:
The earth is constantly in a movement. Earthquakes are always bound to happen, if it doesn't then the earth is dead. Now, in the ancient times before the advent of this modern people, The people always knew and they make extreme preparation in such a way that nobody would get caught up in it. A good example was the earthquake and tsunami that killed a lot of people. The Jawara Black people of the Andaman Island just moved uphill long before the earthquake and the tsunami.

The Purpose of earthquake is for the earth to replenish herself, mostly of the ignorance(evil) on her. Earthquake is not viewed as a bad thing to the wise.

Find another one, I am all here.

zeemahn:
[s]Earthquake happen for the earth to replenish itself, mostly of ignorance(evil) on her.[/s]

laughable. so the earth replenishes itself from evil by 'moving' and causing death and destruction? Like..does this make sense? Honestly, it is this type of thinking that led ancient men to commit inhuman atrocities to their own people in the name of sacrifices to appease 'destructive' gods and prevent natural disaster.

Now, why do things happen?

gatiano:
You really should learn how to reason.

When a farmer harvest his/her yearly crop, What does the farmer do with the earth/soil before he/she plants or sows the next crop?

Don't follow the science without reasoning them thoroughly.

The earth does not cause evil, if anything, we are the ones who have done all the evil imaginable to her, especially the non-blacks. We over use the earth, the earth too must re-cultivate itself. It had done so severally since its creation.

Things don't just happen on their own, People make things happen, either ignorantly or otherwise.

zeemahn:
Have you heard about nitrogen cycle, water cycle, etc? Do you know that microbes and dead organisms replenishes the soils nutrients? Have you heard about dung beetles? etc

so you're trying to say that earthquakes and natural disasters are all man made? Bruh, srsly?

According to your logic , what made things to be happening before man started existing?

With or without life, are natural events not happening in other planets, solar systems, outer space, etc even before man started noticing them?

Your a real joker. I give up.

gatiano:
What nitrogen cycle? Lighting breaks down nitrogen into nitric oxide so that the earth can be livable.

Earthquakes and natural disasters are not man-made based on how you're viewing it, yet they are man made on the long run.
The Earth itself have a half-life, the earth disengrates on a timely bases. The moon was once part of the earth, when its time came to do so, the Black scientists of the time stepped things up.
Check the web. The same sand on the moon is the same on earth, a dynamite powder much more stronger than the ones used today were found on the moon.

Man was there before anything happened (The Blackman and The Blackwoman). The Human mind is the only entity capable of setting a purpose and fulfilling it.
Creation has no beginning and no ending, The universe however has a starting point and an ending point. When it purpose is fulfilled, it will end and another one, a new one, a much bigger one will start again with its own purpose by Black People.

You can never stop and earthquake or what we call natural disasters, It happens here and all the other star systems. Human should just be ready. Black people that you may consider illitrates are 1000% ready, Europeans talkalot people are confused and scratching their heads still claiming and lieing that there is no God when they clearly know who God is.

zeemahn:
Natural disasters were occurring even before man started existing. It is the simple fact. Try reading about the earths history. BBC Earth contains a summarized info.

gatiano:
BBC Earth? coupled with all the pointed nose, pale skinned so called scientists they've bombarded our brains with in high school up until the so called higher learning that builds the Blackminds for servitude under pale supremacy. This non-blacks are only 6102 years old and don't know nothing of themselves let alone the history of the earth.
Flush out the lies and the deceit implanted professionally in your brains, come back home to Blackness and African and start from the elementary. I did the same too.

Couple of Blackmen and Blackwomen brought the universe with them, they came from the last concluded universe. The stars of the concluded universe became the atoms of the new first earth. The first earth expanded through the knowledge of the very First People(Our firstself or first Parents). YOU my Brother are their direct descendant as I am and evry Black person you see. The other races came out of us just 6102 years ago.

A universe is said to last an average (according to our sun counting today) of 850 trillion trillion trillion years; We have spent trillion of universe already. How old are we?

Go through all Black people's creation tales, Somebody/People is always coming from above from outer-space. All of them.

zeemahn:
what convinced you that indeed there is a creator?

dalaman:
Over 1000 people who claimed they have psychic powers have gone there and failed.

KingEbukaNaija:
@ clintonsparkz ... thanks a lot
its on my blog though ... atuegwuchukwuebuka@gmail.com

clintonsparkz:
Mail sent.

KingEbukaNaija:
... just like Wikipedia said

zeemahn:
ok

CoolUsername:
Well put.
No point playing chess with a pigeon.

CoolUsername:
Well put.
No point playing chess with a pigeon.

KingEbukaNaija:
Like I said , there is a default position - there is a creator - but if dont agree , as an atheist you have to tell me why you were convinced there is no creator

gatiano:
BBC Earth? coupled with all the pointed nose, pale skinned so called scientists they've bombarded our brains with in high school up until the so called higher learning that builds the Blackminds for servitude under pale supremacy. This non-blacks are only 6102 years old and don't know nothing of themselves let alone the history of the earth.
Flush out the lies and the deceit implanted professionally in your brains, come back home to Blackness and African and start from the elementary. I did the same too.

Couple of Blackmen and Blackwomen brought the universe with them, they came from the last concluded universe. The stars of the concluded universe became the atoms of the new first earth. The first earth expanded through the knowledge of the very First People(Our firstself or first Parents). YOU my Brother are their direct descendant as I am and evry Black person you see. The other races came out of us just 6102 years ago.

A universe is said to last an average (according to our sun counting today) of 850 trillion trillion trillion years; We have spent trillion of universe already. How old are we?

Go through all Black people's creation tales, Somebody/People is always coming from above from outer-space. All of them.

zeemahn:
I forgot to add.You are talking Africanness here shey. I dont believe everything the white man tells me. I love being African...but remember, It is the same white men who brainwashes Africans that brought your religion to you forcing you to abandon the gods of your ancestors and of course, took your resources and controlled you for hundreds of years.

gatiano:
I wouldn't deny that. That is true. We were brainwashed, but not all of us. You don't believe everything the european/non-blacks tell you, that is ok. I don't believe anything they say. Even the lies that it would be new-year in 3 days times, I don't believe that too because it doesn't make sense. New year was three months ago on sept 11, Year 415. There is another one, year 15102. I am not religious, infact, the lessons from African/Black Elders ensures that we can't be religious if we follow the few and simple instructions which are not to be enforced.

As you read european based lies, try to findout more about yourself.
An African historian and anthropologist found few of our history, He was so proud and happy yet sad. Why sad? Because his people(Black people) are so beaten down that they would not believe the greatness of their Fathers. The greatness that was never lost but just kept away untouched and not destroyed.

zeemahn:
It is okay to disagree with some of the things the west tells us. But disagreeing with everything is absurd because many of their 'theories' are obviously true.

gatiano:
It is actually funny when one thinks deeply about it. It would certainly surprise you to know that all of their theories are lies, Most that seemed to be true or sounded true are based up off from the African science. The reason to this effect is not that hard to fathom, It is because they have to show or make every theory of theirs from a white supremacy point of view. They have chronic syndrome of incurable inferiority complex which they hide behind that weak sieing skin of theirs.

Now I do not claim to know everything yet, I would just as you must to; So let start! bring anything that you think that is right or true about any of their theory and that is not copied from us (Africans) that they didn't twist.

We will learn alot from this.

zeemahn:
You believe so much in conspiracy theories. First, list few of the theories or inventions the white men 'stole' from us and remember, we were arguing whether or not magic existed.

gatiano:
Come to think of it phrase "conspiracy theory", it is a new word for heresy. So when you say, claim or have the believe of the idea that there is no God, That is considered conspiracy theory too. Anyways, it simply imply as thus: " I dare you to prove whatever it is that you claim".

I will name a few (2 or 3).

The pythagorean theorem-
Pythagoras of Samos (US /pɪˈθæɡərəs/;[1] UK /paɪˈθæɡərəs/;[2] Greek: Πυθαγόρας ὁ Σάμιος Pythagóras ho Sámios "Pythagoras the Samian", or simply Πυθαγόρας; Πυθαγόρης in Ionian Greek; c. 570 – c. 495 BC)[3][4] was an Ionian Greek philosopher, mathematician, and has been credited as the founder of the movement called Pythagoreanism. Most of the information about Pythagoras was written down centuries after he lived, so very little reliable information is known about him. He was born on the island of Samos, and traveled, visiting Egypt and Greece, and maybe India, and in 520 BC returned to Samos.[5][6] Around 530 BC, he moved to Croton, in Magna Graecia, and there established some kind of school or guild.

My Question: How can he be credited for the movement of pythagorean (this is to those that read)? For most people, they think this greek fellow was the one that brought about the formula,
Now, with what theorem was the pyramids built? google claimed they were built 2500 BC , 2000 years before the pythagoras. The pyramids were actually built in the beginning of the axial cycle 15,000 years ago.

You may again claim that the wncient egyptians were not Black people, But do take your time to check the paintings on the walls in egyptian. The paintings have several colours painted on them, how come most of them are painted depicting black, brown skin of the African?
You may say it is just an art work, why then was it compulsory for the white christians to depict jesus as white and make muhammad in most movies as a white skin arab?

What is the meaning of the word "Pythagoras"? according to them -' Derived from PYTHIOS, a name of Apollo, combined with Greek αγορα (agora) "assembly, marketplace". This was the name of a 6th-century BC Greek philosopher and mathematician from Samos. He was the founder of a school of philosophy whose members believed that numbers described the universe'

what is pythios then according to them? 'From the Greek place name Πυθω (Pytho), an older name of the city of Delphi, which was probably derived from Greek πυθω (pytho) meaning "to rot". This was an epithet of Apollo'

According to us, Pythagoras are the coining of two Ancient Kemet names or deities, Ptah and Horus.

It may surprise you that the ancient egyptian languages and the sumerian languages are not at all lost, they are here hidden in plain sight to our plain ears.
The African languages are forms of Ancient Egyptian language. I can show some from the Yoruba.

Ptah symbolizes rock, and not rot as the greek claimed. Well what do the Yoruba call rock? Apata. A vowel must be added in front consonant alphabet starting a word of a non-human noun. and secondly- A vowel must be placed between two consonant. (Yoruba phonetic and grammer rules)
Ptah- a-p-a-ta (h is not present in yoruba's alphabet).

Horus/Heru- It became Ori. H is not present in Yoruba.

Amon/Amen- The hidden one. In Yoruba, Fi p' amo (mean keep it hidden)
Yoruba is a form of ancient egyptian language and so are the other African languages. The language is very scientific and considering the sedtructive nature of the non-blacks we had to keep it away.

2) The white claimed edison was the firdt electrical bulb inventor. How was the pyramids built? can that be built without applied electricity? what about some of the ancient artifacts, what were they used to molt metals together so perfectly?
A picture would be attached below of the light bulb even before the white people surfaced in the universe. 'The dendera tube" without which there would not be anything called radio, tv or computers etc.

Give me any theory, let look into it together, and lets take back our Forefathers/Ancestors glory to build a wonderful, peaceful and tranquity world for ourselves.

There is not called magic. They are simply a trick and so is miracle from the word "mirage".