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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:28pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:38pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Mystical888:That's quoin. Yea, it's trending for now. If it goes out of fashion, you can easily chip it off and follow the trending style. It's unlike having a parapet over your structure which is near impossible to remove. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 5:46pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Wow emi nikan 3 bottles hahaha |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:06pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
rotecch77:pls don't drink and drive..... ![]() |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:08pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
erico2k2:Yeah that's what I meant. I guess I need to start using the word level. Verdict on the soil? |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mystical888: 6:27pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
brabus:That's an option. Thanks Brabus. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by peaceland(m): 6:43pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
adanny01:Thanks a lot sir, I am grateful. Merry Christmas! |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:45pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
brabus:I bet you didn't see that coming right? |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:18pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
3strike:It never took me by surprise. I opened the message in the comfort of my bedroom. I didn't have to open it from distance. The only surprise is there's nothing accompanying the msg and I felt I should let you know. I believe it must be an oversight on your part. We are part of your success story this year just as you opened the door of business to us. ______ Even if na one of those strong drinks you dey share with Mr Adeekiti, I no mind. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 7:31pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
BrabusNG:I completely agree with you Mr. Brabus. Double wall and capping beam was used at my project at Lugbe, Abuja. The approach portion of the building was about 6-7 coaches high due to the slopy terrain of the site and the closeness to a small stream, so we used a double wall on all the front perimeter, part of the left and right side perimeter and some internal walls, and then tied the columns in foundation with a capping beam on top of the double wall. We also filled the double walls with weak concrete & broken blocks. It made the foundation cost much more but just like you said, its better to get it right from the onset than doing maintenance/corrective measures later. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:41pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
olumide4christ:In the 7 coach section, were the double walls of the same height? Any pictures? PS: This is not a cost issue, the whole shebang will be less than $80 in labour. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:45pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
@twinskenny. Baba o;I will not drink and drive sir,I no wan go heaven quick |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 7:46pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:Yes, they were all of the same height. I'm sorry I don't have the pictures here right now; it was done last year. I'll have to search the archives for it. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:54pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
Oga Brabus , I no drink strong drink o abeg wine just dey ok for ekiti man like me , those ekiti made white wine , ekiti dey sweet now o ![]() brabus:my greetings to all my ogas in the house, I loyal to the core |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 7:59pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
mufutau55:Yes Hajji, that's the way to go... let bygones be bygones... even Jesus said we should forgive 70 times seven times in a day!! |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:33pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
olumide4christ:In case you find them I'll be very interested in seeing the pictures. Thanks. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 8:38pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:Okay, I'll try to do that soonest!! |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:38pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
olumide4christ:Oga Olu, how come I do not have you in my contact? Your details bro. Me, I no get silver spoon nor golden plates for mouth and hand. Na kaku we kaku everything. So I cannot afford to redo anything. If I had to redo my foundation in a place like Lagos or Abuja, men na money be that. So, I carefully choose site. I first used grader and roller to level/compact the sloping site for two days before excavation. Someone else would have done cut and fill which is equally good but what compacts the excavated soil is the difference. I also have option of playing around with different levels but I ended up doing only 6" step down from the guest area to the family area. I no fit dey climb stairs when I'm old. Lastly, the option to do a ground beam was unanimously decided on site because I'm in building too close to a stream and (2) because of lateral pressure when ponding and compacting the fills; (3) there's constant blasting of limestone at least twice a day in my area. I just asked the guys to buy pako, iron rods, cement and shaperly, shaperly we raft the foundation at the back to the left and right side of the building. Interestingly, a part of the raft bulged out. I quickly put my creative sense to work and turn it into a flower trough. ______ Pics - the ground beam and the bulge part of the raft that was turned into a flower trough.
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olumide4christ: 8:43pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
brabus:Well, my details are in my signature. Happy new year in advance. Regards. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:16pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:Well condemned sharp was the winner as it needs little compacting plus does not drag water from beneath via capillary action. .I was quoted 18 here for the 10 tyres truck. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 10:33pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
olumide4christ:I have the view that double wall is not necessary for a foundation of a house especially when the depth of fill is less than 2m. Tie-beams at every 1m height of foundation is more than enough to brace the foundation against lateral backfill forces. My reason is based on professional judgement. The volume of backfill for a house which has partitions will be different from the same wall height used as a retaining wall for a filling station or parking lot. Therefore the house will experience less pressure on the wall than if used for other uses without internal partitions. Partition foundation walls are linked so will also act as assisting retaining walls to the external walls that faces most of the lateral forces. If the foundation in question had no internal partitions, i would agree that a double wall could serve as insurance but in this case, its absolutely unnecessary and i regard it as planned waste of effort. This view can be proven with structural calculations if i put effort to it. Its not that you will use a sheep foot compactor on the house, will you? |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:16pm On Dec 26, 2015 |
adanny01:You made valid points and I personally agree with you but let me to show you more of the area in question. Also, that I'm doing it doesn't mean that I believe that the wall will fail but just to apeace site workers at a negligible cost to me. The area that the wall is holding back is an unbroken 32 feet by 16 feet. See attached. Red shows subject area, yellow shows suggested double wall. As stated before if I wasn't sitting at my desk 8,000 miles away and only after seeing the lot maybe 5 times then underestimating the slope, I would have opted for an elevated bungalow and used the slope as underground parking. Part of life lesson and I assure all that it will never happen again for sizzles ![]() Thanks for your time. Disclaimer: My Architect and builder did nothing wrong and I own this issue fully as the General Contractor. https://villageheadmaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/DWall.png |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 12:09am On Dec 27, 2015*. Modified: 12:28am On Dec 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:The sketch explains a lot. The proposal is minimal and may serve just right even though the best would have been the beams but for its cost. If you will do this, do it right. That entails filling the block holes and the space between the two walls with lean concrete. Broken blocks and stones are not allowed. I advise you calculate and compare the cost of the 2 methods and if close, chose the beam unless your budget limits you. My skepticism with the double wall you proposed is that the new wall will not be properly braced and when lateral forces of the backfill acts on it, its own weight (dead load) may act as a load on the main walls. Imagine it like 2 upright Diminoes with one leaning on the other, with no support both will go down. In this case, you should consider tie beams for the portions you proposed double wall as a better, safer and probably cheaper option. Modification: On the right bigger portion with proposed 32 x 16ft wall, i see 5 columns. If you tie those 5 beams, it will stabilize that portion more that a double wall. The other side has just 2, but i prefer placing a beam there than a new wall. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:21am On Dec 27, 2015*. Modified: 5:03am On Dec 27, 2015 |
adanny01:Thank you. I'll pass all this along to my builder as I won't be on the ground for the repair though I requested pictures of each stage. The dead load concern actually makes sense to me. Sort of like we might be adding even more weight to what the original wall will have to hold if the new wall fails. Thanks for your time. PS: Attached is what I drew in SketchUp. If this fix would turn up being elaborate then I would redo it and plant the attached instead. https://villageheadmaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_2969.jpg |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:29am On Dec 27, 2015 |
Lateral support | My concern The walls of the foundation of a building should have horizontal lateral supports to restrict movement of the wall at right angles to its plane. This helps to transfer lateral forces from walls to buttressing walls. Think of this as a slab, will you be comfortable to place your slab on the block walls. What about shear? The filling go support am beneath? I've once shared a video of what happened beneath a slab within one year after Sandfilling. A beam round the foundation helps distribute the load without worries and also firmly secure the columns to prevent wall from failure at the right angles. This may not be a fix for the immediate but for the future. Also, I'll suggest horizontal partition for every 36m2 to help prevent the floor slab from caving in. Breaking large cells into smaller partition helps the floor. Me think 32ft cell is too wide. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:37am On Dec 27, 2015*. Modified: 7:04am On Dec 27, 2015 |
adanny01:I recognize the modification. If I tied those 5 which is now actually 7, won't that raise that section in relation to the rest of the foundation? Continued thanks. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:40am On Dec 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:Remove one coach of block and fix beams. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 7:48am On Dec 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:You will have to remove the last course for the section you want to tie with a beam. Only concern is that the size of the beam will be 9x10". That is pretty large but so because its top level has to match with the rest of the foundation. It just means more concrete. If the beam where to go round the perimeter 9x6" beam would have sufficed. |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 8:47am On Dec 27, 2015 |
@adanny01 @EgunMogaji @brabus If he wanted to go the beam way, I think he should have done that after about 4 courses then placing the last course of block. Now, cost wise, (carpentry, concrete work) the beam will have to go around the whole perimeter of this mammoth building. Why do that when you can just have 4-5 courses of blocks to support a 6 course wall? About the Domino effect, there's usually a leg space (about 100mm or less) between the supporting wall and main wall. This allows any pressure from the expansion of clay to be absorbed before reaching the main wall. Fill this space with sharpsand. This is why I advocate creating panels whenever there is a large unpartitioned portion. Helps to hold the main walls together. @egunmogaji Just saw your mention. Was on my whole festivities "shebang" |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 9:17am On Dec 27, 2015*. Modified: 9:43am On Dec 27, 2015 |
KolaShangOne:Good solution. But I always prefer the best construction method any day, any time. Had those areas been rafted from the very day 1, we won't be looking for a fix. And good enough the project hasn't gone past the stage where corrections can be effected. Don't mind my stories. Here's another one to encourage people here. Seascape Villa | Suspended Slab |
| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 11:41am On Dec 27, 2015 |
KolaShangOne:He doesnt have to go round. Like i said, tie beams around the anticipated stressed area will do. Secondly, a retaining wall feels intense lateral earth pressure at its heel. The longer the foot the better for the wall. The second wall usually serves as additional heel to the main wall. Putting sand or allowing independent movement of the walls means the 2 of them are structurally independent which is pointless. You dont want the added wall to take all the stresses alone so you tie them together by pouring lean concrete between them making them one composite structural wall with increased footing to stand the earth pressure. They say 2 heads are better than 1. However, tie beams at the top takes more than half the overturning stresses from the heel to the beam. It is more effective than adding more footing to the wall. See sketch below. The beam is a more direct and opposing force to the lateral earth pressure so it will be a better option anyday anytime.
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| Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PeoplesArmy: 4:37pm On Dec 27, 2015 |
@Brabus, some questions about Chateau de Brabus What type of paint is that and why was it preferred? What brand or paint maker did you use? |
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