₦airaland Forum

PipSurgeon:
atleast av given you the euphoria you seek this morning.. cheers.

Leopantro:
But you are wrong. I am a doctor and I work in the Nigerian system. Let me give you a story.
Some time ago I delivered a pre-term baby that is a baby born at 24 weeks . Immediately after birth the baby stopped breathing. The hospital I worked with didn't have oxygen and the two incubators where in use. I used my own oxygen cylinder on the baby and did ambubagged that is cardiac massage in the baby for it to breath normally. We entered my car and rushed to LASUTH. We were told no bed space and were referred to LUTH. We drove to LUTH, parked at the car park and walked over a 7 minutes to the pediatric ward where we were told they had no free incubator and had no electricity supply. We were referred to a private hospital in Surulere where the consultant was not around. We decided to go back to our hospital to continue care for the baby. Please note that all this time I was doing cardiac massage on this baby while someone else drove. On our way back to the hospital, the oxygen finished, the baby turned blue and died. We got back to the hospital and the husband beat me up for not saving the baby. This happened 4 years ago ; till date I have not received a dime for what I did. This is what happens everyday.

cosmatika:
Tears run down my cheek as I type this. I went into d medical profession to Save lives, but today I watched a patient die and I could do nothing.
It was around 11am today, 26th Dec 2015, I wz in the emergency room as the only Dr & House officer on call in a state Specialist hospital wen a peugeot wagon followed by a police van drove in. They opened d doors & trunk and started bringing out Accident victims. I did a quick triage & saw dat d 2 in d trunk were in a more critical condition, So d immediate plan was to refer d 2 to FMC wia dey hav better hands and equipment to handle it. So I asked d policeman who d driver is so dat d 2 will be rushed to FMC & he said he died at d Accident scene. I ran outside to buy airtime to start calling other HOs, b4 I could return, dey had dropped d 2 & drove off.
I called other HOs, only 2 showed up, others had travelled. To my greatest suprise, I called a medical officer who is a snr colleague in d proffession, she said I shud nt touch anyone till dey paid. That I shud Infact refer all of dem. I was incapacitated, d patients were in pains, crying, calling on us to help, some already unconscious, but we couldnt help cos we have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in her early 20s died. Abt 10mins later, another police van came and carried d remaining 7 to FMC.
This evening, some road safety corps came to inquire if any Accident victims were brought to our center. They had retrieved d manifest frm d vehicle and contacted d families of d passengers. Dey came wit d relations of one of d patients, and wen I told dem 1 of dem died, dey asked for d Description of d 1 dat died and I showed dem d pix of d gal dat died, behold she was d 1 dey were looking for and right there was the gal's fiancee. Their traditional wedding was to be in 3days tym
I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable Drs treat patients in such condition. Let's Save the human race

mcluy:
Enough of these insults. You are not a Doctor. You don't have the slightest clue about what we face everyday. You guys come up here and accuse us endlessly. You guys need to chill. We're the ones in the system. We're the ones who face all the challenges. The healthcare system in Nigeria is in shambles. Govt ain't helping the situation and patients aren't either.

dohyn:
I'm tired of explaining to you people. I did not exonerate the op from blame..read my first post.However, health services is not free anywhere in the world and emergency health services is not an exception. Somebody has to pay for it,be it the patient or the Govt. that's the ugly truth.
A good system is one in which the Govt pays for such services because it has the interest of it's citizens at heart. Problem with Nigerians is that we like free things and expect emergency treatment to be free because a life is at stake.
Blood transfusions would have kept that lady and others like her alive pending definitive treatment but will the op put his own blood into her veins? or because he is earning 150k/month(money that people spend in one night at clubs) he is supposed to pay for the blood?
stop being emotional about this issue and think rationally.You either continue ranting online or proffer solutions to the problem. I can assure you that these cases will continue to happen till we as a people demand a change from the policy makers.

p.s don't quote me again pls

flamingtiger:
Sorry, that's what the law provides and the benefits outweighs the disadvantages. It could happen to anyone bro.

Moreover, how do you expect an accident patient( probably unconscious at the time of being brought in) to make payments? . Except if deposit was made on his/her behalf by the person(s) who brought them in.

At least you administer first-aid and save a life. Does the Hippocratic Oath ring any bell? There's a probability that some ungrateful patients might take advantage of that- only but some -. That's the price for being professional . The most annoying being that the case under review here happened in a government-owned hospital!

Uten9z:
only in niaja F hospital(emergency room) is, do u need to go buy or travel to assess oxygen which suppose be a normal first aid kid available even in emergencies van. do this Dr only strike for money, who is suppose to strike then for working equipments PATIENTS?. "e go belike:- we no go collect treatment bcus hospital are not readily equipped."

ajuwarhodes:
Still got this to say...shut up already!!!

1miccza:
I support this call too. This is where these crazy politicians on our social media would come in handy we need better policies. Bro can you post this on twitter so that people like Ben Murray Bruce would read and take the required step??My two cents though......

cramjones:
You display your pathologic and pathetic ignorance again. No one is foolish to think emergency services are free anywhere in the world. However, it is only in a primitive society with inept doctors that instead of stabilizing a patient, instead look for who to quickly refer to, or ask money first from a dying patient that needs urgent care.

Should we do an incision and drainage to drain the pus out of your brain, so at least you can reason a little and have some common sense?

-CramJones

Uten9z:
I see, did anybody force you to, I believe this is suppose to a passion and not pain, the challenges are what u sign in to do. You don't know challenge yet until u asked an army recruit which is in any way faces more challenge then u.

cramjones:
You display your pathologic and pathetic ignorance again. No one is foolish to think emergency services are free anywhere in the world. However, it is only in a primitive society with inept doctors that instead of stabilizing a patient, instead look for who to quickly refer to, or ask money first from a dying patient that needs urgent care.

Should we do an incision and drainage to drain the pus out of your brain, so at least you can reason a little and have some common sense?

-CramJones

cramjones:
So a politician from Abuja should come and do his work for him? A politician should help him start the ABC of resuscitation. I just can't believe how stuupid some people are. Please don't tell me you are this stuupid!

-CramJones

Lexusgs430:
I do not disagree with you. But the point still remains, that funding or mismanagement is still the issue!!!!
If a Government hospital rejects an emergency patient at the point of living or dying, it simply speaks volumes!!!

Lexusgs430:
I know of countries where emergency treatments, are free!!
And countries that would simply not ask any questions, at the point of emergency treatments, they simply save a life, has best and questions asked later.
Oga cramjones, you are getting very emotional about this issue. I admire your zeal. May our Government do what is right and fund our health services properly.
Health is wealth!!!!

cosmatika:
Did u read everything at all? I'm a house officer, d lowest in d medical ladder. Can't tek some decisions wtout my snrs. Its a govt hospt & nt my father's

naijaboiy:
[color=#1980BC]This same useless health policy and nonchalant attitude of health workers resulted in the death of my uncle in the year 2001.

I don't think I have good blood for any medical practitioner in this country,especially nurses. [/color]

flamingtiger:
My brother, you're absolutely right. Sometimes I feel that the black race- Africa especially is cursed. We never seem to get the simplest of things right.

ogawisdom:
U r a morbid fool, for once I tot I will see a different doctor jst reading d post but I saw another murderer n to think u a claimed senior doctor supports this shows its normal.

If he and other doctors care abt live then they shld do sth different n save live at times like depositing their money for a helpless accident victim until his/her parents comes.

Doctors like u and op dnt have any biz with medical practice since wat u want is money, u shld b traders

Pathological hydra headed monster

cosmatika:
Did u read everything at all? I'm a house officer, d lowest in d medical ladder. Can't tek some decisions wtout my snrs. Its a govt hospt & nt my father's

Boss13:
Who told you that the health sector is not funded. Is it because EFCC is busy with other sectors.

Please look inwards. Those killing the health sector are the very people working in the health sector. Look inwards, your Judas is amongst you.

cramjones:
You display your pathologic and pathetic ignorance again. No one is foolish to think emergency services are free anywhere in the world. However, it is only in a primitive society with inept doctors that instead of stabilizing a patient, instead look for who to quickly refer to, or ask money first from a dying patient that needs urgent care.

Should we do an incision and drainage to drain the pus out of your brain, so at least you can reason a little and have some common sense?

-CramJones

I called other HOs, only 2
showed up, others had travelled.
To my greatest suprise, I called
a medical officer who is a snr
colleague in d proffession, she
said I shud nt touch anyone till
dey paid. That I shud Infact
refer all of dem. I was
incapacitated, d patients were in
pains, crying, calling on us to
help, some already unconscious,
but we couldnt help cos we
have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in
her early 20s died.

Boss13:
Nurses are the least. They follow the trend. The healthcare sector is a polluted sector.

Kirinwa:
Some consolation that his house rent would expire and he would be thrown out to the cold with his family or consolation that he would be hungry. No money to feed and helpless as his family leaves him to squat with relations.
Consolation that insults and disregard for him in a harsh society.

To whom brain is given, sense is expected.

annamaria:
My simple advise to you @ OP is leave social media and face your work. Or simply leave the medical profession if you prefer the social media. It's obvious you did nothing. There was an emergency and you still had time to run outside and buy and load a recharge card when you know that time is of the essence in such a situation. Or you do not know? I am a first aid officer and when faced with such a situation I know to focus on the victim while calling instructing others around to call the emergency services. What kind of a doctor ignores dying patients? I shake my head at how terrible the humans in the medical profession in Nigeria can be with all kinds of lame excuses.

You didn't know what to do @ OP. Simple. You wasted all those years in medical school learning nothing, hence your first challenge you couldn't handle.

You expected sympathy. You just exposed your ignorance and lack of skill. May God have mercy on your tormented soul because you know your actions were wrong. Five minutes is a long time in an emergency.

dohyn:
oga,you have come with your madness this morning..A society is "primitive" filled with "inept" doctors and you expect it to work? You think that by throwing the few medical terms u know around,you will effect a change? luckily for you,you have found a woman to support your foolish argument here,as you always do.
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