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Its no longer Matic but Mikel. Okay na....

barackohandso:
Hmmm. Just because of one good game?




Funny lots

airmark:
I was nearly forced to like his post for the first time.

lolz........... you can still like it

hensben:
Though we normally disagree but i'm with you on this.

raumdeuter:
It might be because of my hatred that made his beloved club sack him not once but twice. Abramovich must be feeding off my hatred too.

When Mourinho goes to another team and they face Chelsea, you are free to support that team against Chelsea.
When Mourinho goes to Man Utd, start supporting Man Utd and hope they beat your chelsea.
Its known that most Chelsea fans are plastic to start with

Some of you are even hoping Chelsea keeps losing so that your Mourinho can be vindicated

I'm even tired of reading that boring line, "Mou is the best Coach the club has ever had"

How will that make Chelsea make top 4 this season??

bigkesh:
You day mind them?? Na here we go day in weeks time

Smh.

Griffon:
The worst thing that can happen to punditry is to leave it to Nigerians to handle.

Jose's tactics is now the problem?

WTF where you last season when thisame Mourinho was breezing past teams?

Why is it hard for ninjas to understand that lack of depth, imbalances and a revolt which sored the atmosphere at Chelsea triggered our downslide?

Lazy football pundits must clean up their act.

Omo i just dey observe.

I am quite amazed to see some peeps here claim that Mou was ultra defensive. Against these smaller teams that beat us earlier in the season, we had more possession, created more chances that didnt get converted and was generally unlucky.

Its easy to blame tactics. . the same tactics that won us the league last season is now trash. Some people. .

Just got back from the desert and everybody is screaming mikel, abeg what did mikel do?

This is a genuine question.

I am surprised to see some of our fans agreeing to these nonsense typed by raudmeter.
Hw can u guys forget so easily the type of football chelsea played last season when fab, hazard and costa were on serious form.
We have forgotten hw chelsea put 6 past everton, hw they put 5 past swansea and other teams that chelsea totally destroyed until fab lost it in the midfield. Nawao. It is true that mou sometimes provoked me with the way he gets satisfied with his lead toward the end of games (like 11 minutes to go), bt dat does nt mean mou is ultra-defensive, and that tactics was the sole problem to club's underperformance this season. I tink the problem can be put to complacency and lack of motivation and players nt happy with the coach due tactics. Tactics; nt being too defensive, bt too demanding. Demanding; in the sense that, everybody wil attack and everybody wl defend. Mehn, dat is too demanding.
Finally, i still stand by the fact that, mou is a wonderful coach that does magic with players and he shld hv bn allowed to build a dynasty with chelsea.

For mikel's issue, i hv always maintained that mikel is a very good and intelligent player just like hazard. It depends on the way the coach wants his team to play. Mikel plays a possessive and cool football. Football that is patient. He does nt rush it. He waits for the right time. He wil do very well in tiki taka.

Chelseafan1:
Smh.

Guy...Any p?
M sure you also shook your head weeks ago when I said Oscar's would flop after the Sunderland game when you were giving weird excuses for his prev poor performances....
The following match you were the first to slam Oscar on this thread.........



So twerking your head is allowed

airmark:
Well you could see mikels game today, he exuded confidence and hardlyr put any foot wrong. When I learnt hiddink arrived London after mou sack I knew there would be rejuvenation. Mikel is not a crap as many believe, I have said it here , I will rather call him a typical African player who's contented with his little achievement and go to sleep. Now hiddink has brought him back to life and not only him. If you r a true Chelsea fan you should wish he builds on this for the benefit of the team. Because if you are looking forward to his flopping, which will definitely affect the team, I don't think that's fair. I had my fear on zouma but gradually he is proving me wrong and It will be irresponsible to be praying for his decline.

Hiddink stated this :

"He's the ideal player in my option to bring balance to the team. If the team is not willing to defend well, or hasn't got the right balance, then you'll concede a lot of goals.

"I think John Obi can be one of the key figures in bringing back that balance.

"On this podium very talented players can explore their qualities.

"He can recover his radar, he reads the game very well, he knows where the strength of the opponent is and knows how to combat that. He has very good sense, he doesn't do it in a brutal way, he's very elegant.

Ok....No p.....For the team's sake let's hope you are right and m wrong.......
I just like to be realistic......Mikel's FOOTBALL AGE is. 27/28,and you all think its now that he will improve?

M a Chelsea fan....Don't even doubt that


No p

The Mourinho talk has started again.......Like we have never won an away game 3-0 under him........

M tired of the arguments, let's move forward even though some bored pundits from a boring thread will always want to bring up the topic .......
I have vowed not to talk about it again
Since your your opinions won't change a thing about him anyway...

airmark:
I was nearly forced to like his post for the first time.

Nah I can not like his post.

Griffon:
Funny how some folks now think nothing is wrong with our midfield 'cos we won convincingly today.

Seeing comments like "Thisame bad midfield won today" is quite baffling.

In which world is a pivot of Mikel and Fabregas gold?

We've got injury and suspension to thank for today's victory. It was obvious Palace in the absence of Bolasie, Wickham and Cabaye lacked firepower. We've got Pardew to thank for deciding not to overload the midfield which would have seen Cesc and Mikel getting genuinely tested in the middle of the park Finally, we've got Hiddink to thank for once again doing what he knows how best to do.

Today's victory doesn't and shouldn't rule out the obvious fact that we have a phucked midfield.

Nobody ever claimed that our midfield is the best. After all, I posted last summer how the Matic-Fabregas pivot was the most dribbled past pairing in the league...and we still won the flipping thing.

What I, in particular, will never accept that our midfield was the main cause of our terrible slump pre-Hiddink. I had to refuse and reject that assertion and the accompanying implication that we had the 16th best midfield in the EPL because that was a big fat lie...

Corelation does not equal Causation.

Or how do you explain the small fact that Matic, the mascot of the 'Midfield Enthusiasts' here was\is actually terrible in the first half of the season?

Do you honestly believe that the turnaround in our team's fortunes is due to Hiddink?

Jose got sacked on Friday and Gus started on Monday- Yet a team that couldn't buy a win previously beat Sunderland by 2 goals on Saturday.

Abi you think 4-5 weeks is enough to change almost 3 years of Jose's tactics?

See Costa that didn't know where the post was before now playing like a striker again.

Omo lets move on with the team and not deceive ourselves.

Even that serial German false prophet has slightly shifted his stance from 'Midfield is the problem' to 'Tactics was the problem'

Hmmn!
Mikel = African Zidane.
Hmmmn!

Things u hear on d Arsenal and Chelsea thread sometimes just makes u wonder if there's no sense associated with some of the fans of these London clubs!!

PietroRico:
Just got back from the desert and everybody is screaming mikel, abeg what did mikel do?

This is a genuine question.

He did his basic Midfield duties he refused to do for a long time and majority are surprise and overreacting. . .

AdeLaNa1:
Hmmn!
Mikel = African Zidane.
Hmmmn!

Things u hear on d Arsenal and Chelsea thread sometimes just makes u wonder if there's no sense associated with some of the fans of these London clubs!!

Lmao!!!!!!! pls be easy on my Brothers..
They are just reacting to our first real victory this season ,I understand......

Though the whole Mikel thing dy vex me ...

AdeLaNa1:
Hmmn!
Mikel = African Zidane.
Hmmmn!

Things u hear on d Arsenal and Chelsea thread sometimes just makes u wonder if there's no sense associated with some of the fans of these London clubs!!

After 1 match! Hmmmm

Make these people fear God na. Haba!

PietroRico:
Just got back from the desert and everybody is screaming mikel, abeg what did mikel do?

This is a genuine question.

Hmmn
While u were away in the desert they called Mikel the African Zidane.
While u were away they said Mikel is on the same level with Ozil.
While u were away they said Mikel is better than Yaya Toure.
While you were away they said Mikel deserves WPOTY award.
Chelsea fans say no to drugs

And while he was away, they said Mikel makes Busquet look like a school boy.

kokaneprodigy:
Hmmn
While u were away in the desert they called Mikel the African Zidane.
While u were away they said Mikel is on the same level with Ozil.
While u were away they said Mikel is better than Yaya Toure.
While you were away they said Mikel deserves WPOTY award.
Chelsea fans say no to drugs

kokaneprodigy:
Hmmn
While u were away in the desert they called Mikel the African Zidane.
While u were away they said Mikel is on the same level with Ozil.
While u were away they said Mikel is better than Yaya Toure.
While you were away they said Mikel deserves WPOTY award.
Chelsea fans say no to drugs

lol
Did he do better than he did versus Spain in the confed cup?
If yes, I'll understand the reason for the excitement



Btw, Zidane na African man before o..

lalaboi:
He did his basic Midfield duties he refused to do for a long time and majority are surprise and overreacting. . .

lol.. Unfortunately, the Christmas break ended today . Would have loved to really watch the replay of that match

PietroRico:
lol
Did he do better than versus Spain in the confed cup?
If yes, I'll understand the reason for the excitement

Confed cup performance > that of yesterday.......Even considering that was against Spain with Nigeria and this is Chelsea vs Palace

bigkesh:
The Mourinho talk has started again.......Like we have never won an away game 3-0 under him........
M tired of the arguments, let's move forward even though some bored pundits from a boring thread will always want to bring up the topic .......
I have vowed not to talk about it again
Since your your opinions won't change a thing about him anyway...

majority of this fans are glory hunters. Mou had a bad season and all of a sudden, he's'the problem with the club. SMH.

Nihilist:
Nobody ever claimed that our midfield is the best. After all, I posted last summer how the Matic-Fabregas pivot was the most dribbled past pairing in the league...and we still won the flipping thing.

What I, in particular, will never accept that our midfield was the main cause of our terrible slump pre-Hiddink. I had to refuse and reject that assertion and the accompanying implication that we had the 16th best midfield in the EPL because that was a big fat lie...

Corelation does not equal Causation.

Or how do you explain the small fact that Matic, the mascot of the 'Midfield Enthusiasts' here was\is actually terrible in the first half of the season?

Do you honestly believe that the turnaround in our team's fortunes is due to Hiddink?

Jose got sacked on Friday and Gus started on Monday- Yet a team that couldn't buy a win previously beat Sunderland by 2 goals on Saturday.

Abi you think 4-5 weeks is enough to change almost 3 years of Jose's tactics?

See Costa that didn't know where the post was before now playing like a striker again.

Omo lets move on with the team and not deceive ourselves.

Even that serial German false prophet has slightly shifted his stance from 'Midfield is the problem' to 'Tactics was the problem'

New year, new name for Dayo kunu, our nigga

bigkesh:
Confed cup performance > that of yesterday.......Even considering that was against Spain with Nigeria and this is Chelsea vs Palace

haha.. Na wa o

Nihilist:
Nobody ever claimed that our midfield is the best. After all, I posted last summer how the Matic-Fabregas pivot was the most dribbled past pairing in the league...and we still won the flipping thing.

What I, in particular, will never accept that our midfield was the main cause of our terrible slump pre-Hiddink. I had to refuse and reject that assertion and the accompanying implication that we had the 16th best midfield in the EPL because that was a big fat lie...

Corelation does not equal Causation.

Or how do you explain the small fact that Matic, the mascot of the 'Midfield Enthusiasts' here was\is actually terrible in the first half of the season?

Do you honestly believe that the turnaround in our team's fortunes is due to Hiddink?

Jose got sacked on Friday and Gus started on Monday- Yet a team that couldn't buy a win previously beat Sunderland by 2 goals on Saturday.

Abi you think 4-5 weeks is enough to change almost 3 years of Jose's tactics?

See Costa that didn't know where the post was before now playing like a striker again.

Omo lets move on with the team and not deceive ourselves.

Even that serial German false prophet has slightly shifted his stance from 'Midfield is the problem' to 'Tactics was the problem'

Let's have a little friendly debate.

You are right when you say that Chelsea's weak midfield was not the "single" cause of us slumping to 16th on the table. The midfield is a fundamental problem but not the root cause. You may or may not believe this (midfield being a problem) but that's beside the point.

What you consider the problem is what is always of concern to me. You believe the players stopped playing for Jose and that this is the root cause of the issue.

Would I be right by that conclusion?

Don't know about y'all but chelsea played a very direct attacking game under Jose before he was sacked, i'll keep saying this, it was either the players didn't want to play for him or it was just ill luck, i'll go with the latter though(the leicester game comes to mind)

nateevs:
Let's have a little friendly debate.

You are right when you say that Chelsea's weak midfield was not the "single" cause of us slumping to 16th on the table. The midfield is a fundamental problem but not the root cause. You may or may not believe this (midfield being a problem) but that's beside the point.

What you consider the problem is what is always of concern to me. You believe the players stopped playing for Jose and that this is the root cause of the issue.

Would I be right by that conclusion?

Our positions on this issue have always been very similar to a certain point.

We both believe that Jose was central to the downturn in our clubs fortune. And we both believe that Midfield is 'A' problem but not 'THE' problem.

Where we differ is the reason 'WHY' Jose is central to our poor showing.

You say it's tactical, and that Jose shackled the team in his role as the Anti-football Deity that Tony Pulis can only aspire to be.

This is where I, and the facts, disagree with you. Like I keep reminding you, only 1 team in the league scored more than us last season, and we averaged 57% possession over the course of the season.

We dismantled teams in highscoring games, and our main striker was around the top of the goal scorers chart, our midfielder topped the assist chart, and our winger was voted player of the season. These facts are NOT consistent with an argument that Chelsea played a rigid shackled kind of footy.

Your next argument is that Jose's tantrums and abrasive behaviour rubbed the players and staff up the wrong way - (I agree with this) - which in turn created a negative atmosphere in the dressing room - (I also agree with this)- and so Jose had to go(This is where I disagree)

My principle is that the vast majority of working people have worked or still work under managers they don't necessarily like. That doesn't have to stop them from being professional though.

These boys literally stopped playing well because the don't like their manager, and the unique combination of being both staff and saleable assets, meant that it was easier to sack the manager than sack the players.

Coaches like Jose with the almost cast iron guarantee of delivering trophies are in short supply.

Look at Gary Neville and his struggles at Valencia(last nights game excluded). He is beginning to see the difference between a Touchscreen and the Touchline.

I feel we should have kept Jose for his pedigree, to send a message to the dissenting players, and to set an example for the future.

But e don happen. Wetin man go do? I can only get behind my team and continue to support them. But I will do so in the knowledge that once these boys don't like Hiddink's replacement, we will be back to square 1...

^^^

I won't be surprised if we end up with two new managers before the year ends

The first one takes over in the summer, makes some changes to the team, fall out with some players, get sacked and we get another manager.

We have all seen this happen before in this club

dopeJemi:
Don't know about y'all but chelsea played a very direct attacking game under Jose before he was sacked, i'll keep saying this, it was either the players didn't want to play for him or it was just ill luck, i'll go with the latter though(the leicester game comes to mind)

Jose effect is already spreading through United fans....Lolzzzzzzz
Supporting him because you think he will join your team,Na lie.....

You are right though.....

bigkesh:
Jose effect is already spreading through United fans....Lolzzzzzzz
Supporting him because you think he will join your team,Na lie.....

You are right though.....

Lol, don't even want him again, simeone will do... I have always been of the opinion that chelsea played way better football than united

Nihilist:
Look at Gary Neville and his struggles at Valencia(last nights game excluded). He is beginning to see the difference between a Touchscreen and the Touchline.

Why m I thinking you only talked about Gary just to throw that line?