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Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by AmakaDNBStories(f): 9:31am On Jan 13, 2016
Okay
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Nikkyparadise(m): 9:31am On Jan 13, 2016
#I no well ooohh
#Every fucking Efcc arrest was a hit from jim iyke to tonto to van vicker
#EFCC pls bring back our Missing Budget.!!!
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by AVVS(m): 9:31am On Jan 13, 2016
I guess this man was sleeping when efcc were arresting normal civilians and suddenly when it start concerning high profile people he woke up to make this statement.. ..




been looking for super power just to start killing some leaders( APC/PDP) in Nigeria!
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by ekwerendi55(m): 9:32am On Jan 13, 2016
Fellow nairalanders,pls i knw dis is outside d topic,pls i dnt knw hw to create topics n private message someone.pls i nid the stepz.tnx
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by platz(m): 9:37am On Jan 13, 2016
How will this bring back our 2016 budget
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Montaque(m): 9:38am On Jan 13, 2016
omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??



Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people. cheesy
The directives he gave them is in accordance with the law. The apex court has held in many cases that holding charge is unlawful. There are crimes n criminals that you can't Arraign before a magistrate court. He mentioned them in his directives.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by free2ryhme: 9:38am On Jan 13, 2016
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Nobody: 9:39am On Jan 13, 2016
ShowYourCertificate:
Buhari's government is a government of impunity and lawlessness. How can you detain people indefinitely? These guys are still innocent until proven guilty for Christ sake.

The judiciary must live up to its responsibility and defend/protect our democracy and rule of law. They mustn't allow themselves to be manipulated by the executive arm.
What happens to the poor masses in the police cell and awaiting trial in prison? Their only guilt is poverty abi?..........smh
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Davijunson: 9:41am On Jan 13, 2016
dammytosh:
lol.


This is good news for Wailers and their fellow Armed Robbers.


They still keep the memories of election loss and seeing every opportunity to attack the Govt.

corruption has eaten deep into their miserable brain.

I am waiting for law that will empower EFCC to detain anybody,
SHUT UP!!!.. Must everything be about Wailing and wailershuh Get sense small abeg.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by scachy(m): 9:42am On Jan 13, 2016
LadyExcellency:
It's unfortunate that in a bid to support justice, that the sense of revenge and attempt to score cheap political points have engrossed every element of institutional democracy we got over the years.

It's good to remind all and sundry that the worst constitutional democracy in Africa is by far better than any constitutional dictatorship in which Nigeria is now sliding into with the support of tyrannous majority whose aim is tainted with obsessive desire to discredit all the gains of PDPs 16 years administration.

Nigerians should learn to accept responsibility for their actions and pay for their crimes no matter how highly placed. Sympathizers should also refrain from condoning criminal behaviours by public office holders. Let's remember, Justice can always be served better with the rule of law.
God bless you
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by maestroferddi: 9:43am On Jan 13, 2016
omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??



Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people. cheesy
Oga with all your noises, one would have expected to understand something as simple as juridical jurisdiction.

Na wa for you o...
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Baboo13(m): 9:43am On Jan 13, 2016
Should I follow this thread or not?



Wait




I'm coming
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by tsdarkside(m): 9:43am On Jan 13, 2016
omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??



Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people. cheesy
i dont understand??... huh huh huh huh

what does this mean??...nobody will be arrested no more,no matter what crime..??... huh huh huh
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by scachy(m): 9:43am On Jan 13, 2016
At last, the judiciary has been awaken from deep slumber
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by naptu2: 9:44am On Jan 13, 2016
omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??



Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people. cheesy
Practice directions. Section 274 of the constitution.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by ShowYourCertificate(op): 9:45am On Jan 13, 2016
OGACLO:
What happens to the poor masses in the police cell and awaiting trial in prison? Their only guilt is poverty abi?..........smh
The detention of those poor guys in police cells is also wrong. But two wrongs don't make a right. Or does it?
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by lagdmark(m): 9:45am On Jan 13, 2016
To all those pple who imposed a tyrant and confused bubu on nigerians God is watching you pple.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by lastpage: 9:46am On Jan 13, 2016
VintageCocktail:
Hahaha, the battle line is being drawn. Each fucking arm of gooment exercising their legitimate roles. Seems the battle will be between the judiciary and executive as the the legislature has been bought.
If anyone thinks some of these JUDGES are better than Armed Robbers, then they need to juts look closer!

The way some Judges were negotiating BRIBE (as recorded on their MTN call Logs) over the Election in Osun state, shows that our Judiciary is an "aid and abettor" of criminality.

Corruption is so "deep-rooted and pervasive" in Nigeria that it will take the grace of God to see one or two Judges with integrity.
One needs to ask why it is that "it is now" that this judge just woke up to know that Magistrates cannot entertain Armed robbery cases when the "common man" is being sentenced for such offences at the same courts, over the last thirty years?

Now that it affects a BIG MAN, the Judge simply "regained" his senses, right?

It would have been better if the Govt can set-up a SPECIAL CORRUPTION COURT that is free from the shenannigans of our corrupt Judges but l am sure that since our National Assembly is also full of criminals, they would "shiver" at such thought and would not append their hand to it, rather they would be more interested in a media bill to gag the exposure of their criminality!


Nigeria is really phuck.ed ...... back to back!
shocked



Lastpage!
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by tsdarkside(m): 9:47am On Jan 13, 2016
hahahaha...democracy is a funny system.....hahahahaha......rubbish..... grin grin grin

okay oooo....let them play roullete and see wheather the military will not take over.... grin grin grin grin
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by anonimi: 9:48am On Jan 13, 2016
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Banter1(m): 9:49am On Jan 13, 2016
I feel sorry for us in this country! This judges are not helping at all. People who have looted the treasury of this country, their right should be taken away, they don't deserve to claim any right.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by freeze001(f):
omenka:
Does he have the powers to give such "order"?? A judge has the discretion to grant judgements based on the facts before him and the merits of the applicant's prayers.

If he can do this, what stops him from saying "stop passing a guilty verdict on suspects"??



Ps: funny how these guys still look to "Tinubu's lying propaganda media" to promote their course.

These same guys would rip thenation apart if anything anti PDP is reported.

Such funny sets of people. cheesy
U need to understand the workings of the judiciary. First, the magistrate court is not one of superior record. That is reserved for the High Court on to the Supreme Court. The Magistrate court is under the supervision of the Chief Judges of the states they are in. The Chief Judge of the High Court also provides the practice rules and procedures for magistrate courts which they are bound by.

Now,the orders by the magistrate courts to hold a person pending investigation without any formal charge is tantamount to what is called a 'Holding Charge' that has been declared illegal and contrary to equity and good conscience by the superior courts of record.

The Magistrate courts do not have jurisdiction over certain capital offences and should therefore not exercise jurisdiction in any guise. However, the EFCC and DSS exploit this seeming ignorance to detain a person under investigation ad infinitum until when they are ready. That power lies with the High Court especially in matters where d magistrate court doesn't have jurisdiction.
That is why after playing that trick and Nnamdi Kanu was granted bail by the magistrate court, they ran to the High Court and secured a 90 day order then remembered that the magistrate doesn't have jurisdiction to entertain the matter. Knowing that was the case, they ought not to have approached the magistrate court in the first instance and d court should have recused itself and not exercised any jurisdiction.

Also whether u admit or not, Nigerian security agencies are known for their torture practices and the tendency to force anyone to write damning statements under duress. They then build their case under such statement and then the courts have to grapple with whether it was a willing confessional statement or obtained under duress. The court records are replete with cases thrown out for such reasons especially when d prosecuting agency is not diligent enough to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt or never had any case fro the first instance. Now this only happens when the defendant is left in the custody of the security agencies or in prison ad infinitum. It is also why they don't do their jobs properly before running off half-cocked and their cases get thrown out on avoidable issues.

Proper procedure is to release a suspect on bail for bailable offences by a court vested with requisite jurisdiction to do so. Detaining a person in flagrant disregard of such orders n procedure contravenes the constitutional provision of innocence until proven guilt by a competen court. It also means a person is punished before he is actually declared guilty and then d courts may sentence such a person to time already served. Is that proper? It is not ur place or that of any security agency to declare a person guilty. That is the constitutional duty of the courts.

The Chief Judge is therefore in perfect order to issue directions to the Magistrate court as to what to do and what not to do. It is within the ambit of what a court has jurisdiction over that it exercises its discretion not just over any case before it.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 13, 2016
ShowYourCertificate:
Buhari's government is a government of impunity and lawlessness. How can you detain people indefinitely? These guys are still innocent until proven guilty for Christ sake.

The judiciary must live up to its responsibility and defend/protect our democracy and rule of law. They mustn't allow themselves to be manipulated by the executive arm.
How do you mean,how on earth can you say they are innocent when each and every one of them admit collecting the money,what is your problem?
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by sweetgala(m): 9:54am On Jan 13, 2016
LadyExcellency:
It's unfortunate that in a bid to support justice, that the sense of revenge and attempt to score cheap political points have engrossed every element of institutional democracy we got over the years.

It's good to remind all and sundry that the worst constitutional democracy in Africa is by far better than any constitutional dictatorship in which Nigeria is now sliding into with the support of tyrannous majority whose aim is tainted with obsessive desire to discredit all the gains of PDPs 16 years administration.

Nigerians should learn to accept responsibility for their actions and pay for their crimes no matter how highly placed. Sympathizers should also refrain from condoning criminal behaviours by public office holders. Let's remember, Justice can always be served better with the rule of law.
Gains of PDP ! , it is no more contested fact that olisah metuh was a the beneficiary of 400 million or that Dasuki shared 2.1 billion dollars for party interest pre-election.

These are crimes and have to be punished to deter others, only a few weeks ago a billionaire in China was declared missen by his company and the stocks of the company and his account was frozen, only for him to be released some days after, he'd been detained by the Chinese anti corruption agency and quized. That's where Nigeria need to be.

Screw democracy if it provides evil doers the opportunity to vandalise our common wealth
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:57am On Jan 13, 2016
ShowYourCertificate:
Buhari's government is a government of impunity and lawlessness. How can you detain people indefinitely? These guys are still innocent until proven guilty for Christ sake.

The judiciary must live up to its responsibility and defend/protect our democracy and rule of law. They mustn't allow themselves to be manipulated by the executive arm.
IPODs re alws defending criminals who re bringing the country down! That's why u can't be trusted with power! Now u re hapi that things re becoming difficult for security agencies! He who does not want gud to come to society shud not expect anything good to come to them!
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by SmartMugu: 9:58am On Jan 13, 2016
ShowYourCertificate:
Yes! Including Dasuki until the court pronounces him guilty. Isa Jafaru already admitted guilt by refunding parts of the money.
Refunding parts of the money does not make him guilty. He can still plead not guilty in court like the rest of them have been doing.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by dadexcel: 10:00am On Jan 13, 2016
simpleseyi:
Including ATM Dasuki Sambo that dispensed money to Nigeria looters? Even the former governor that collect 4.6 billion naira for spiritual purposes? Or Isa Jafaru that collected 170 million to buy a house for Dasuki from arms purchase fund?
........................permit me to say yes! including all oif them, even a hardened killer is still innocent until a competent court of law confirms him guilty, otherwise if the prosecutor cannot justy his case , he might still walk free! thats why there are laws, the pwers wielded by the so called EFCC and DSS are actually enacted by an act of law, so you cannot disregard the law. What are we even talking about in this country, that an accused is detained against his will , he (metuh) is even begging them to take him to court and they are going to some magistrate to get order to detain instead of prosecute? thats laughable, it is the height of impunity and should not be encouraged by sane minds like me and you because it can form a chain of ugly reactions. We are blessed{
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by goziedave(m): 10:00am On Jan 13, 2016
Many APC boot lickers be wailing saying PDP reps can't do anything,
however you can't say their words went out and returned empty.
Now the cj have spoken
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:02am On Jan 13, 2016
sweetgala:
Gains of PDP ! , it is no more contested fact that olisah metuh was a the beneficiary of 400 million or that Dasuki shared 2.1 billion dollars for party interest pre-election.

These are crimes and have to be punished to deter others, only a few weeks ago a billionaire in China was declared missen by his company and the stocks of the company and his account was frozen, only for him to be released some days after, he'd been detained by the Chinese anti corruption agency and quized. That's where Nigeria need to be.

Screw democracy if it provides evil doers the opportunity to vandalise our common wealth
What IPODS want is an impunity ravaged system because corruption does not go against their principle! That's is y even when it became glaring that GEJ and his cronies fleeced this Country dry, IPODS stood with him gidigba, shoulder to shoulder! Yet they want to be president of Nig. God 4bid bad tin!
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Darayola(m): 10:04am On Jan 13, 2016
ShowYourCertificate:
Buhari's government is a government of impunity and lawlessness. How can you detain people indefinitely? These guys are still innocent until proven guilty for Christ sake.

The judiciary must live up to its responsibility and defend/protect our democracy and rule of law. They mustn't allow themselves to be manipulated by the executive arm.
You can say that again. If you are saying that, what should be said about those been detained in prison for over 15years without convinction yet?

Make this thieve go sit down jaare.
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by mrwisesome: 10:05am On Jan 13, 2016
This government is reAlly Confuse
Re: Chief Judge Bars Magistrates From Granting Remand Orders To EFCC by Darayola(m): 10:06am On Jan 13, 2016
The judiciary is a mess....
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